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Nader calls for end of athletic scholarships

March 25, 2011

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— Consumer advocate Ralph Nader is calling for the elimination of college athletic scholarships, saying the move is necessary to “de-professionalize” college athletes.

“As we near the exciting conclusion of ‘March Madness’ — which would more accurately be described as the 2011 NCAA Professional Basketball Championships — it’s time we step back and finally address the myth of amateurism surrounding big-time college football and basketball in this country,” said Nader, whose League of Fans is proposing that the scholarships be replaced with need-based financial aid. The Associated Press obtained a copy of the proposal Thursday, ahead of its official release.

NCAA spokesman Bob Williams said that referring to college athletes as professionals defies logic.

“They are students, just like any other student on campus who receives a merit-based scholarship,” he said.

Comments

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 9 months ago

This makes a lot of sense, as do most of Nader's ideas, but there are too many powerful, vested interests in exploiting college athletes and state-subsidized facilities for it to happen any time soon.

LeBo 3 years, 9 months ago

Hey 'de-professionalized' college softball, baseball, swimming & diving, track & field, cross county, golf, wrestling, water polo, volleyball, and other negative impact/none revenue sports.

Stop exploitation of minority athletes, buy reducing coaching salaries and implementing a stipend program.

livinginlawrence 3 years, 9 months ago

If something like this could result in more financial aid becoming available to the masses, it is certainly worth considering. After all, doing so would serve to better incentivize our youth. Rather than practicing sports with (mostly vain) hopes of securing a scholarship to pay for college, young students would be encouraged to spend more time honing their academic attributes, which would not only help them garner consideration for merit-based funds but prepare them for college-level coursework as well. Of course, what bozo has said is undoubtedly true. This idea will likely be met with minimal support.

Tony Kisner 3 years, 9 months ago

How about a law where the only source of payments of tuition can come from the Student themselves no other outside sources? This used to be the case when applying for a mortgage, the need to show where the down payment was sourced.

This would change the landscape of higher education in particular making the relationship of consumer/purchaser - service provider on a more direct basis. Raising the responsibility of the consumer and possibly encouraging the service provider to be more efficient.

ebyrdstarr 3 years, 9 months ago

So my parents couldn't have helped me with college? My grandparents? When you say no outside sources, are you precluding loans of any kind? I'm not quite sure how anyone would pay for college if they couldn't use money from parents or scholarships or grant money or loans. Really, I'm not sure what exactly you're proposing because my grant money was based on my need and merit. My college loans were all paid back within 4 years of my graduation. And the bulk of my tuition was paid by my parents (who I believe took out some loans, also paid off within just a few years of graduation). So was all of that not acceptable to you? From a capitalist perspective, I'd say it all worked out pretty well for my college, too. They got all their money and one more graduate to add to their ranks. (Not to mention their donor rolls.)

livinginlawrence 3 years, 9 months ago

Thinking about this a little bit more, an idea came to me. Many college sports have come to serve as preparatory measures for involvement in athletics at the professional level. The same could be said for many university academic programs, in which students seeking practical experience in a field can enroll in practicum courses. As such, the sports teams could be thought of as athletics-oriented practica. Just like any other student hoping to gain the practical experience that will help them in their future endeavors, athletes should face the same costs associated with enrollment. After all, it simply doesn't make sense for an academic institution to be picking up the tab for someone's education solely on the basis of their ability to entertain. This rings especially true for the most heralded athletic recruits, who so often stay in school for as little time as possible before joining the professional ranks.

Ricky_Vaughn 3 years, 9 months ago

MLB has it's own minor league system. Why don't the NBA and NFL do the same? Because colleges do it for them for free.

Ricky_Vaughn 3 years, 9 months ago

Mr. Nader, I'm not sure if you could've hit the bullseye any more dead-on. Unfortunately, there's too much money to made from the exploitation of college athletes.

Running a program like KU b-ball generates the kind of money that pro sports teams do, except KU doesn't pay their players (at least not on top of the table). Why would you give up that advantage if it was your cash cow?

Richard Heckler 3 years, 9 months ago

Nader is on the money....

Then again Nader believes 90% of incumbents should be replaced each voting cycle...

ivalueamerica 3 years, 9 months ago

you are advocating for more funding for wealthy people to attend college based on having white skin color?

WOW.

irvan moore 3 years, 9 months ago

how many of you folks agreeing with nader are going to watch the bb game tonight? yep, if he had it his way we wouldn't be looking at our championship team, think about it, the a$$hole killed the Corvair and now he wants to kill college athletics. (he was proven wrong about the Corvair). i say pay the athletes a salary but don't even think about reducing coaches salaries, we wouldn't be where we are without our coach, basketball brings the school and this town a lot of money.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 9 months ago

Nader wouldn't necessarily disagree with you. What he says is these teams, which have nearly nothing to do with academia, should become standalone businesses, paying not only the athletes, but also all of the taxes and other expenses from which they are currently exempt. There's is really no reason that the state of Kansas should be subsidizing this pro organization in which everyone except the players gets paid.

And with the savings generated, need- and merit-bases scholarships could be funded instead, for people go to college for a college education, not just to pretend to be a student long enough to find out if they can qualify for a pro contract.

notajayhawk 3 years, 9 months ago

"There's is really no reason that the state of Kansas should be subsidizing this pro organization in which everyone except the players gets paid."

If KU athletics is bringing in so little money that it's being subsidized by the taxpayers, you guys seriously are not paying high enough ticket prices.

Ricky_Vaughn 3 years, 9 months ago

Way to look for your own special interest group! Whatever it takes to keep KU on top, right? The ends really justify the means...

cowboy 3 years, 9 months ago

Is this the group that never got picked on the playground , good lord.

In Div 1 Basketball there are roughly 3600 players of which roughly 24 get a chance to play in the NBA. Thats less than 1%. The rest of them play for the glory , the education , the benefits which come to the community , the PR for their colleges / universities , the enjoyment of their fan bases both students , and alums. Not all of them are dumb as a doorknob , many are academic all americans also who move onto other careers. Yes some fail also. Probably at a lesser rate than the general student population. I would guess that 30% of KU freshmen are gone after the first semester.

My only gripe about collegiate sports and big money is that the opportunities for average guy to own a pair of season tickets is long gone.

Ricky_Vaughn 3 years, 9 months ago

Love how you're throwing around these guesstimate statistics. Got any actual data?

Flap Doodle 3 years, 9 months ago

I thought Nader was dead. Oh, wait, that was his relevance I was thinking of.

parco814 3 years, 9 months ago

Spoken by a true expert on being relevant.

cowboy 3 years, 9 months ago

Perhaps they all should all be on athletic scholarships.

KU Mens Basketball grad rate 75-80 percent One of the tops in country !

KU General Rate 4 year 31 percent 6 year 61 percent

While big donors obviously control the venue , they are in effect are throwing a big party for themselves with their own money. Isn't costing the U anything and I think as the future goes forward we should see more of that funding move back towards academic support.

Maybe Ralph should stick to yelling at the neighbor kids to "Get off my Grass".

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