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Lawrence City Commission puts off action on Bullwinkle’s permit

June 29, 2011

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An Oread neighborhood bar is inching closer to being allowed to stay open until 2 a.m.

Bullwinkle’s, 1344 Tenn., is seeking a special-use permit that would allow it to convert from a cereal malt beverage establishment that must close at midnight to a regular full-service drinking establishment that could stay open until 2 a.m.

City commissioners at their meeting Tuesday delayed taking final action on the permit but said they were open to the idea if the property owner and city staff could create a plan to discourage patrons from congregating outside the bar.

Staff members said they likely would put together a plan that would replace grass on the site with thorny bushes or other landscaping that would make it difficult to stand in the area.

Comments

Richard Heckler 2 years, 9 months ago

I would guess most KU students locate in that neighborhood due to the close proximity to KU. NOT becuase of bars and party hounds.

It easier to walk or ride a bike when located close to a university. This is a sensible choice.

I would guess the greater majority of students do NOT stay up all night frequently.

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pizzapete 2 years, 9 months ago

I think they should be able to stay open until 2 am, serve hard alcohol, and have block parties anytime KU football, baseball, or basketball is having a home game. In fact, I think the city should allow them to build a 10 story hotel or apt building on that site.

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TheTalker 2 years, 9 months ago

I agree with stoltz and horsegirl; when you move into a neighborhood you should know what you're moving into. If they have certain rules that you don't agree with, perhaps you should recognize it's not the right fit for you, instead of moving in and causing a big stink and acting like you didn't know before moving.

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Matthew Herbert 2 years, 9 months ago

I seem to remember that neighbors complaints of drunks urinating in their yard was part of the problem. Have a cop sit out there JUST ONE NIGHT and issue a bunch of tickets for that and it will stop. Once word gets around that peeing in public (exposing yourself in public) earns you a spot on a sex offender registry, my guess is the problem might stop. Most problems in this town that ultimately result in places getting shut down, could have been avoided with an adequate amount of enforcement in the first place. Policing is similar to parenting in that respect; if you allow improper behavior to exist and create an environment where it is tolerated, don't be surprised when it builds and builds and ultimately you have no control of your child/your community.

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Richard Heckler 2 years, 9 months ago

Asking consumers not to be outside sounds a lot like rhetoric than substance.

Who after all will be enforcing such nonsense?

Doesn't the LPD have plenty to do at that hour?

Who will write the tough language? Teeth will be lacking in the language if there is language so why bother?

Nothing that has been suggested will be or can be enforced therefore why even go there?

City commissioners likely would not go for this in their neighborhoods and likely will be home fast asleep.

Vote no if any of the above is a concern.

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oneeye_wilbur 2 years, 9 months ago

Brng back the Bierstube and make it a 21st century place with polka music and lederhosen and some pizzazz instead of the dump, the Bull is. Thorny bushes, that is about as nuts as what one would expect from Planning. And who is going to clean out the beer bottles and trash from the thorny bushes?

It never ceases to amaze me how inept Planning and Development is. Time for some staff layoffs in that department.

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rockchalker52 2 years, 9 months ago

I used to drink a lot of beer there back when it was a townie bar called The Beer Garden. Thankfully, the short-sighted management, who never catered to the college crowd, went under or I might still be there tossing peanuts at your pitcher of Pabsts when you weren't looking. Circa mid-to-late '70's.

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Zachary Stoltenberg 2 years, 9 months ago

Let's see, a student bar in a student neighborhood, that caters to student social activities and lifestyles. What's wrong with being open until 2:00 a.m. ? If the "neighbors" have a problem with it, perhaps they shouldn't have moved into a student neighborhood. Business as usual on Oread, about 5% of the owners speaking as though they represent the majority. If you have that big a problem with students and the activities that do (and have for over 100 years) happened in the neighborhoods they live in, shut up and move.

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GUMnNUTS 2 years, 9 months ago

What could go wrong with a bar that sits right beside a road the drunks from downtown travel home on?

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cheeseburger 2 years, 9 months ago

Given the size of the building, outdoor activity will always be a part of that venue's M.O. If it is not desired by the neighbors, perhaps granting permission for the bar to stay open until 2 a.m. should be taken off the fast track for passage and thoroughly considered. That bar's location really does not lend itself well to staying open that late.

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Benjamin Roberts 2 years, 9 months ago

"Staff members said they likely would put together a plan that would replace grass on the site with thorny bushes or other landscaping that would make it difficult to stand in the area."

One would think that Bullwinkle’s would be more inclined to use a "Rocky" solution.

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