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Hundreds rally against closing SRS office

Hundreds of people converged on South Park on Saturday July 16, 2011 to protest the closing of the SRS office in Lawrence. Speakers talked about the importance of SRS to the Lawrence community and surrounding area.

July 16, 2011

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Sen. Tom Holland rocks out at SRS rally

State Sen. Tom Holland, D-Baldwin City, entertains the crowd with "This Land is Your Land" Saturday at South Park. Hundreds showed up Saturday for a rally to protest the announcement that the state would be shutting down the Lawrence branch of SRS. Enlarge video

Ray Cho, of Lawrence, works at a local engineering firm, somewhat removed from the social services community.

But he said he values the services provided by the Lawrence branch of the Kansas Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services, and he joined hundreds Saturday morning to protest the local office’s announced closure.

“I see the need,” said Cho, holding a sign that read, “10,211 use the Lawrence SRS office.”

Since the recent announcement by Gov. Sam Brownback and SRS Secretary Robert Siedlecki Jr. that the Lawrence office would be closing as a cost-saving measure, many in Lawrence have expressed shock and disbelief at the decision. More than 600 people attended a town hall meeting Monday to discuss the closure, and community members have started a Twitter and Facebook campaign to “Save Our SRS.”

According to state officials, closing the Lawrence SRS would save $413,000. In the future, those currently receiving SRS services in Lawrence would need to travel to other offices, such as SRS facilities in Topeka, Ottawa or Overland Park.

Advocates and consumers of SRS services — which include food stamps, general assistance and vocational rehabilitation — expressed determination at the rally that they would fight the closure.

“We will not sit back,” said Peter Luckey, pastor at Plymouth Congregational Church. “We will not stop.”

Despite the recent controversy about the closure, Siedlecki has not backed off of the decision, said rally organizer Abbie Hodgson.

“Secretary Siedlecki is holding strong,” she said.

Numerous local politicians, including State Sen. Tom Holland, D-Baldwin City; State Rep. Paul Davis, D-Lawrence; and Douglas County District Attorney Charles Branson, spoke at the rally in support of keeping the Lawrence SRS office open. The speakers highlighted the hardships many in Lawrence will face if the local branch shuts down. A date has not been set for a possible closure, but a general timeline of several months has been given by state officials.

Still, organizers remained optimistic that the office will be saved.

“I’m hopeful,” said organizer Jacob Beaumont, who along with volunteers scoured South Park with petitions. “I wouldn’t be doing this if I didn’t believe we could save the office.”

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kathyslobb 3 years, 4 months ago

iam a person that has a disabitliy and works &lives in the community and pay taxes hee in Larence

mk9992 3 years, 4 months ago

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 4 months ago

"To me this appears to be a good start in culling the freeloader herd."

Yea, and I hope they go after that pesky herd of unicorns next.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 4 months ago

Well, no, not really, but I understand that's as good as your argumentative abilities can carry you.

chootspa 3 years, 4 months ago

Isn't that a fancy way to say "I flunked out and now I'll pretend that I'm too good for school?"

tomatogrower 3 years, 4 months ago

Those who are ripping off the system probably have computers and cars to get to the distant offices to continue the ripping off of taxpayers. Those who are truly in need are the ones who will suffer.

Kat Christian 3 years, 4 months ago

You'd be surprised how many of these 'free-loaders" are working stiffs just like you who don't or can't make enough $$ to live on in this town and need SRS assistance just to feed their family or cover utilities much less medical assistance. Like I've said would you rather these working free-loaders be begging on our street corners or being helped to be able to stay in a home?

Liberty275 3 years, 4 months ago

"By increments make the dispensing of public assistance more and more difficult and eventualy only those that truly need it will put up with the hassle to get it."

I don't the intention can be put any more succinctly. When life is really really bad, you'll work to make it better if you can. That would help their self-esteem and maybe snowball into them being a human that helps others instead of asking for help.

Those with more profound problems, we do everything to take care of. Adults that are able-body and able-minded, make life worse them until they begin supporting themselves.

konzahawk 3 years, 4 months ago

WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY. Why can't people understand this? What would happen if these deadbeats put this much effort in to getting off the government dole?

jafs 3 years, 4 months ago

We apparently have hundreds of millions to spend on highways and state house renovations, as well as hiring outside counsel to defend lawsuits.

Hmmm.

scott3460 3 years, 4 months ago

OMG, someone's out there destroying our money!!! Quick, let's cut some more taxes for the job creators.

Grow up.

John Sickels 3 years, 4 months ago

Deadbeats like autistic children or people with disabilities.

At their heart, most economic conservatives just want the weak to perish. Ironically, most of these heartless sociopaths consider themselves "Christians".

grammaddy 3 years, 4 months ago

"I like your Christ. It's the Christians I dislike. They are so unlike your Christ."--Ghandi

grammaddy 3 years, 4 months ago

...,and whatever happened to "separation of church and state?"

Jimo 3 years, 4 months ago

We have plenty of money. You just keep insisting on giving it away to your millionaire buddies.

That some twerp would call a child with cerebral palsy a "deadbeat" pretty much sums up your life story to sorry loser.

snitty 3 years, 4 months ago

Did you write in to complain about spending the hundreds of billions for the military? Didn't think so. Yet you are here to whine about even the pittance we provide to the poor. Look, it's Sunday. Why not try some compassionate conservatism for a change . . . ?

scott3460 3 years, 4 months ago

Many of us did. We were told to shut up then as well, and by the same people too. But we were right then, and we are right now. The banksters and cons are in control of the corporate media propaganda machine, but wrong is wrong no matter how often repeated.

Fred Mertz 3 years, 4 months ago

Where are the performance measures the governor promised us? How can we know if closing this office was the right decision if there is no way to evaluate it? Performance measures just like what the governor promised is what is needed.

cato_the_elder 3 years, 4 months ago

Not_left_not_right, thank you for a good post. Sebelius announced a big push in 2004 to close quite a number of SRS offices in Kansas. Strange how the left-wing moonbats on this forum have blocked that out of their non-existent minds.

grammaddy 3 years, 4 months ago

And none of them served a community as big as Lawrence.

Jimo 3 years, 4 months ago

A. Closing an office serving 10 people isn't the same.

B. Republicans aren't "left-wing moonbats"

Godot 3 years, 4 months ago

Lets just shut down all SRS offices west of Topeka to make sure that Lawrence residents don't have to drive 25 miles for assistance.

love2fish_ks 3 years, 4 months ago

Option A: Close Lawrencer and force the community served to drive 20 mi for services

Option B: Close 5 other locations and force the same number served to drive 50 mi for services.

Seems like tthose in favior of Option B are self serving and not thinking of the statewide needs of all Kansans. Indeed Option A is not prejudiced against rural kansans. We need equality and not selfishness.

Godot 3 years, 4 months ago

Option D - Bozo and friends raise money (voluntarily and freely given, not through taxation) to pay the rent, upkeep and utilities on Schwada's building so SRS can keep its Lawrence office open.

jafs 3 years, 4 months ago

That's fine, as long as we can apply the same idea to the SLT, statehouse renovations, outside counsel hired by the governor, etc.

Then I'll have plenty of extra money to send to SRS.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 4 months ago

After all funding is eliminated for SRS, is it alright if they are sent to die in your front yard?

Jimo 3 years, 4 months ago

Option E - Just insist the Koch Bros. pay their taxes.

tomatogrower 3 years, 4 months ago

Option A - Look for other offices that don't charge so much in rent. Find more volunteers to help with things. Ask the local copier supplier to give a discount that they can count off as a charitable deduction. They have done nothing to try and streamline the costs. Why is the state leasing anyway? So some rich developer can make a profit from taxpayer's money? Don't hire out of state people to run things.

Sigmund 3 years, 4 months ago

Did they shout "This is what democracy looks like?" cause I would have hated to miss that!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 4 months ago

And where should we set up the concentration camps for those who don't pass your tests?

Jimo 3 years, 4 months ago

What if the moocher's habits are spending half days overseeing a multinational energy empire and the other half days bribing public officials and bankrolling "Tea Parties"?

Kendall Simmons 3 years, 4 months ago

You're homeless. You put in job applications all over town. You have a $10 prepaid cell phone so that a potential employer can contact you. You LOSER!! How DARE you spend $10 on that phone!! It's FRIVOLOUS!!

You have a mental illness and tried to self-medicate with booze. You're now going through dual diagnosis treatment for the illness and the addiction, and smoke hand-rolled cigarettes with cheap tobacco to help you cope with the anxiety. You LOSER!! How DARE you spend ten cents on that cigarette!! How DARE you bum a cigarette on Mass??? It's FRIVOLOUS!!

And let's not forget to sneer at all "those people" out there who were hard-working people with decent jobs, appropriately priced homes they could afford, savings accounts, 401(k)s, health insurance..."those people" who did all the right things...who lost their jobs because the economy collapsed because of people who did not do all the right things.

I'm talking about people who always paid their bills. Who didn't run up ridiculous debts. People who still send out resumes. People who accept any job because no job is 'beneath' them. People who are living witth friends because they lost their homes to foreclosure after trying everything they could to work with the banks. Yeah...as long as we're sneering, let's sneer at them, too. After all, it's the "Christian" thing to do.

Kat Christian 3 years, 4 months ago

People who sneer to this have the "Marie Antionette Syndrome". If you don't know about her - read her Bio. She lived in luxury all her life and had absolutely no clue what poverity was. She had the mentality that everyone lived like her and when she found out they didn't she just couldn't wrap her small brain around it and said why don't they "eat cake instead of bread?" Well DUH Bimbo they couldn't afford the ingredients to make cake and was lucky just to have a snip of bread. I think the younger generation is suffering from this MA Syndrome.

Liberty275 3 years, 4 months ago

Wikipedia had a different translation that I like better:

"Let them eat rich, expensive, funny-shaped, yellow, eggy buns."

scott3460 3 years, 4 months ago

Will we be scrutinizing the tax payer handouts to "developers," as well?

And will you be helping get the assistance of the tatoo, cell phone, car, hair stylist, booze and cigarette industries in reducing their customer base?

And, by the way, will this constitute the nanny state that we hear so much about?

Also, how will this fit with the right winger's plans to focus like a lazer beam or cruise missle or whatever on jobs.

It used to be the media helped educate us all on such questions, but the media ain't much help since we downsized and outsourced it to the criminal class.

Oh wait, Murdoch was granted special citizenship rights (check that out!!) so that he could nuzzle his Aussie butt up to the tax payer trough to become a recipient of a federal broadcasting license. So, I guess, that means for the moment he is still considered innocent. Well, we can wait a bit for that moniker to come true.

"Faux "News" we snoop on 9/11 victims for profit!!"

Lawrence_Pilot 3 years, 4 months ago

Attack the poor! Attack the unfortunate! They don't vote, so you've got a green like, Chief Redneck, to continue with your crusade against those who didn't vote for you and will never vote for you.

What an embarrassing state.

scott3460 3 years, 4 months ago

This says it better than many:

"Kill the Poor" - Mathhew Grimm

so you wear the vestments of ill-gotten legacy bankrolled by CEOs, endowed by Christian destiny give us empty words and flags to rally round but the rest of it don’t seem to trickle down to

streets of hopeless faces, mortgaged and foreclosed downsized to part-time jobs, foresaken by the HMOs sucking up the welfare when there’s war to subsidize and they won’t just go away if you ask nice

CHORUS kill the poor, kill the poor, put a cap right in their brain ain’t no room in Utopia for evidence it ain’t arm the VPs, arm the soccer moms, declare your holy war before the meek claim our inheritance you better kill the poor

ship our jobs to lands of despots and despair repurpose livelihoods for merest pennies on the share they ask for more, refer em to the green berets there’s always more room in the mass graves

repave our cities as consumerist plantations turn the cops into a martial force of occupation mall of america, pristine and sterilized And woe to those who can’t afford the price

CHORUS

Trouble 3 years, 4 months ago

We give Billions of dollar to other countries to help them out... but the thought of trying to help our own people.. it is unthinkable! What is wrong with this picture?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 4 months ago

"We give Billions of dollar to other countries to help them out..."

We gave billions of dollars to bail out already wealthy banksters after they trashed the economy. Now, they say we are broke, so the poor must pay.

Trouble 3 years, 4 months ago

You might be a bozo but I agree with you 100% I'm sick of all this Sh#t. We pay alot of taxes.. but we seem to be able to bail all the weathy banksters and foreign countries out but the hell with the hard working poor people that live in our country!

Jimo 3 years, 4 months ago

Imagine the day a Republican is as enthusiastic about spending money on a crippled child in Lawrence, Kansas, as he is about spending money to blow up a crippled child in Baghdad, Iraq!

Imagine a day when a Republican is as fixated on Jesus as he is on Ayn Rand.

Imagine the day when a Republican legislator spends as much effort working for the Average Joe as he does to fix the tax code to shovel even more of the peoples' money to his adoptive millionaire supporters.

homechanger 3 years, 4 months ago

So democrats don't do these things? You keep drinking the Kolkata the ruling class is serving.

Jimo 3 years, 4 months ago

The only ruling class I'm aware of is the one controlling the GOP, with the Tea Party in its pocket!

Democrats don't do these things? Huh? How's the weather on your planet?

Stopping pissing on my shoe.

homechanger 3 years, 4 months ago

Weather on my planet is hot. How are you enjoying the fetal position?

grammaddy 3 years, 4 months ago

Why hasn't Brownback shown up for any of this. Tom Holland was his opponent but he's the one showing up? Why is that? Is Brownback scared, or too busy licking the Koch brothers' boots?

mk9992 3 years, 4 months ago

Holland has a lot more free time. DUH!

skinny 3 years, 4 months ago

Well folks, you have only seen the begining of what's to come!!

"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it." Dr. Adrian Rogers

chootspa 3 years, 4 months ago

“I feel slavery is a much maligned institution. If we had slavery today we would not have such a welfare problem.” - Dr Adrian Rogers

George_Braziller 3 years, 4 months ago

His last name is Chao, not "Cho"

"Ray Cho, of Lawrence, works at a local engineering firm, somewhat removed from the social services community."

Wendy magillicutty 3 years, 4 months ago

I have a friend that used SRS funds to go to school online. She got her nursing license finished up. Now she's middle class and a tax payer. I can see how getting her lazy ass off welfare really would have helped more. She could be a much better off low wage tax payer who cant eat or buy goods and services. Education is a pain in the ass. Oh and all those lazy ass welfare kids who should already have a job by 4th grade.

Jimo 3 years, 4 months ago

This goes back to the Republican conceit we heard so much about a few years back. Something like: if you can stay off drugs and manage to not have a child before you've graduated from high school, you're virtually guaranteed to have a job and not need governmental assistance.

You don't hear much of that formulation any more after the GOP pushed millions of middle class people into long-term unemployment, do you?

james bush 3 years, 4 months ago

A pox on both their houses. For now, fire half the federal employees.....except military and law enforcement.

Jimo 3 years, 4 months ago

Federal employees already make up a smaller percentage of the population than any time since Eisenhower.

Turn off the Fox propaganda dammit.

scott3460 3 years, 4 months ago

Military and law enforcement are among the largest class of federal welfare recipients

Cait McKnelly 3 years, 4 months ago

No but you still hear a lot about "welfare moochers", never mind that the long term unemployment rate is the highest it's been since the Great Depression. Y'see, according to some people we aren't in the longest recession we've had in eighty years. Nor is it a fact that in the last decade this country has lost tens of millions of jobs that will never come back. Nor do they believe that the US Department of Labor really has no idea how many unemployed there truly are in the US because people are dropping off the UI rolls daily for using up their benefits and then dropping off the radar.

Jimo 3 years, 4 months ago

The only radar the unemployed people drop off of is the GOP radar. For real Americans, this is the No. 1 issue for this country - far more important than spending, debt, military adventures, snooping around in others' vaginas, or licking the soles of the shoes of billionaires, combined.

Any person ready, willing and able to work deserves a job. I care not what means are employed to provide it even if that means bribing business to hire or the federal government hiring directly. There's no shortage of work to be done in this country. The only thing we have in overabundance is Tea Bag flatulence.

No problem this country faces can be solved without first solving employment.

chootspa 3 years, 4 months ago

Hear, hear. Rather than objecting to the idea that someone who paid unemployment insurance should get 60% payments when they unwillingly become unemployed, maybe we should just make some more @#$#@$ jobs, so fewer people would be stuck. Most people would prefer to work, and we've got plenty of things that need to be done.

Jimo 3 years, 4 months ago

I fail to see how the GOP can begrudge assistance to those who became unemployed not through any fault of their own but of GOP malfeasance.

Millions of people working day in and day out were not instantaneously transformed into "deadbeats".

The Koch Bros. in contrast are the epitome of billionaire deadbeats who damn well need to start paying their taxes.

Alceste 3 years, 4 months ago

Where a LOT of the REAL WELFARE money goes in Kansas:

Kansas ranking: 6 of 50 States

http://farm.ewg.org/region.php?fips=20000

Kansas Summary InformationAverage

$14.5 billion in subsidies 1995-2010.

$8.76 billion in commodity subsidies. $2.48 billion in crop insurance subsidies. $2.15 billion in conservation subsidies. $1.07 billion in disaster subsidies

32 percent of farmers in Kansas did not collect subsidy payments - according to USDA.

That means, here in Kansas anyway, that 68% of all farms in Kansas collected some form of subsidy. That, my good fellow is representative of an entrenched, ain't going nowhere, welfare "give me mine" system.

Welfare rolls are down around 60 percent since the mid-1990s, when welfare was switched from an entitlement to a work program that requires recipients to have jobs, said Ron Haskins, who drafted the so-called welfare-reform bill of 1996 as the Republican staff director of the U.S. House Ways and Means committee.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24708.htm

I understand why the poor get blamed for everything in hard times. The larger question is do you?

Here's the deal: In Hard Times, Americans Blame The Poor (and public employment as well....).

workmama 3 years, 4 months ago

I heard a rumor that the employee's of the Lawrence SRS office are being told not to say anything about the closure. If they do they stand not being offered a job to another SRS office. The deadline is everyone within the SRS office will be relocated to another office by October 1, 2011. Everyone don't be fooled the service that SRS gives isn't to deadbeats. Yes there are some and there will always be those who choose to take from the system but most are just looking to make sure their children can survive until they can make an income to support them. I am ashamed of the ones that say these people are deadbeats. Are we now becoming a state that doesn't care. The ones that are claiming these people are deadbeats then I hope one day your parents stop taking care of you and force you to go out into the real world or you lose your job and have to have medical coverage for your children so that you can afford to make sure they are not in the hospital every other day. You guys are fools.

mk9992 3 years, 4 months ago

You are trash for wishing that on anyone.

Cait McKnelly 3 years, 4 months ago

Not really. How does wishing that someone walk a mile in someone else's shoes make her trash? It's a hard reality, mk.

Alceste 3 years, 4 months ago

Child Hunger in Kansas Number of children who receive food stamps 84,907 Percent of eligible persons who receive food stamps 57% Number of children in the School Lunch Program (free and reduced price only) 166,121 Number of children in the Summer Food Service Program 17,225 Number of women and children receiving WIC (Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children) 73,238

Child Poverty in Kansas Number of poor children (and percent poor) 121,395(17.6%) Number of children living in extreme poverty (and percent in extreme poverty) 46,790(6.8%) Number of adults and children receiving cash assistance from Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) 37,771 Maximum monthly TANF cash assistance for a family of three $429

A MERE 37,771 people are involved with respect to getting cash assistance in this state. 37,771. And we're talking about a dinky $429 MAXIMUM for a household of four????? Good grief.....

Kansas Ranks: 17th among states in percent of babies born at low birthweight.

These are DAMNING statistics that document the reality Kansas is a hillbilly, backwater, ignorance laden state and my remark is meant to include Lawrence and Douglas County. In fact it's more applicable to Lawrence and Douglas County because it's citizens promote themselves as so "progressive".

There should be no statistic for "child hunger in Kansas". Why is there one?

Oh, http://www.childrensdefense.org/child-research-data-publications/data/state-data-repository/cits/2011/children-in-the-states-2011-kansas.pdf is the data source. It's difficult to disregard the Children's Defense Fund as they don't lie nor do they seek to cover up the truth, nor do they have a political agenda. Just the facts.

skinny 3 years, 4 months ago

This is a perfect example of why some people should not be having children if they cannot afford to raise them. When they do, this is what happens. The children suffer!

It cracks me up reading some of these posts. Certain people think they are entitled to free assistance and then think it is unfair when they don't get it. How about going out and getting a job or how about going out and getting an education so that you can support your family instead of depending on other to do it for you!

"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it." Dr. Adrian Rogers

Alceste 3 years, 4 months ago

So, Richard Johnson, I guess you're in favor of the County Poor Farm concept as well well as children being constantly hungry due to their assigned parents? Swell guy you are, Richard. Keep up the good work....

chootspa 3 years, 4 months ago

“I feel slavery is a much maligned institution. If we had slavery today we would not have such a welfare problem.” - Dr. Adrian Rogers.

Linda Endicott 3 years, 4 months ago

Get a job where, Mr. Know-It-All? You do realize that jobs are going away by the millions anymore, don't you? You do read the newspapers and watch TV, don't you? Exactly where are all these wonderful jobs available for all the people who need one?

And what if that job you're able to get is flipping burgers somewhere...gee, I know it's a job, but what if it doesn't meet your expenses, including the ones for those kids you have...are you just supposed to take the job anyway, any job, and only feed half of your kids?

Not everyone who has children and can't afford to take care of them is that way by choice...a lot of people anymore had good jobs, and nice homes, when they had those children, and they were perfectly capable of taking care of them...but then came the layoffs, and not being able to find another job, and going through foreclosure on that nice home, etc., etc...

Getting an education with what, genius? Your good looks? Yeah, how many colleges are accepting that as payment? If someone can't afford to take care of their children without assistance, how in the world could they afford to get an education?

And an education is no guarantee anymore that you will find and keep a good job...there are plenty of people out there now who have master's degrees and still can't find work...

Grow up...

chootspa 3 years, 4 months ago

One could make that argument, but then one would be making statements without knowing what one is talking about.

See, the problem there is that carbs are cheap and people on public assistance generally get no nutritional counseling to go with the food. It's much easier to stretch a dollar with processed food than it is to buy whole food, and it's much faster to pop something in the microwave in between second and third jobs than it is to cook. In many cases, you may not have cooking equipment beyond a hot plate or microwave, and bodegas and convenience stores within walking distance don't always carry fresh produce.

gudpoynt 3 years, 4 months ago

Congratulations notleft_notright:

You win the Completely Obtuse Proclamation of Ignorance Award!

If you are unsure as to why, don't attempt to understand. Educating yourself is grounds for getting stripped of your medal.

gl0ck0wn3r 3 years, 4 months ago

I'm curious... there were hundreds at the rally, right? Surely there was someone who owned a building that is in good shape and could be used for the office. Surely if this many people feel strongly about keeping the office open then a building could be found and donated - for the good of all, you know - to the state or rented to the state at $1. That would radically reduce the cost of keeping SRS in Lawrence because most of the savings will be realized by reduction in rental costs. So which one of you is going to step up?

Godot 3 years, 4 months ago

I think it would be a great PR move for Schwada if he did that.

Or that required $3,000,000 expenditure on the part of USD 497? Spend it on a building for the SRS and rent it to them for $1. The board members love to do that kind of thing. Just ask Boys & Girls Club.

gl0ck0wn3r 3 years, 4 months ago

I think you missed my point. Why should the property owner take a loss? Rather, the people who feel strongly about this issue and have money ought to offer to donate a building.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 4 months ago

What they believe strongly in is that the most efficient and effective way to run the SRS is to do it through the state government, not underfunded and piecemeal as you suggest.

And they're right.

gl0ck0wn3r 3 years, 4 months ago

I didn't suggest anything except to suggest one way that supporters could deflate the cost issue. As usual, you miss the point entirely.

Richard Heckler 3 years, 4 months ago

What is Brownback up to?

ALEC Exposed: State Legislative Bills Drafted by Secretive Corporate-Lawmaker Coalition

This week the Center for Media and Democracy released 800 model bills, legislation that is straight out of the corporate playbook and drafted by the American Legislative Exchange Council.

The group’s membership includes both state lawmakers and corporate executives who gather behind closed doors to discuss and vote on draft legislation.

ALEC has come under increasing scrutiny in recent months for its role in crafting bills to attack worker rights, to roll back environmental regulations, privatize education, deregulate major industries, and pass voter ID laws.

Thanks to ALEC, at least a dozen states have recently adopted a nearly identical resolution asking Congress to compel the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency to stop regulating carbon emissions. We are joined by Lisa Graves, executive director of the Center for Media Democracy.

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/15/alec_exposed_state_legislative_bills_drafted

chootspa 3 years, 4 months ago

Which progressive organization was this? And did the "cramming" come before or after the filibusters and endless compromises?

chootspa 3 years, 4 months ago

And which legislation was it that they wrote? Looks like they're super into that whole healthcare thing, but I doubt that they advocated for Romneycare, which is what we ended up with. I'm not seeing any legislation on that site at all. Just talk about the issues, and they look to be far to the left of anything the Triangulator in Chief has passed.

Centerville 3 years, 4 months ago

$413,000, instead of paying for office space, could pay for a lot of direct benefits.

Cait McKnelly 3 years, 4 months ago

Cut three of SRS's newest "employees" ( who are sucking on the public "teat" in their own way) and you'd have just about that amount.

handley 3 years, 4 months ago

I have a better idea send all the appointees back to Florida and Brownback to wherever because he is not Kansan anymore.

Centerville 3 years, 4 months ago

Cato, thanks for the reminder. On Oct 10, 2003, Sebelius announced her intent to consolidate eleven regional SRS offices into seven. In order to save several million dollars and to streamline services.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 4 months ago

And under Sebelius, we can pretty much take her at her word-- She really was seeking to streamline services in order to save money. It'd be instructive to look back and see if she was able to accomplish that without creating significant hardships for the communities affected.

Not that Brownback did anything of the sort. This action isn't about streamlining services-- it's about eliminating them. Vulnerable people will suffer as a result. Some of them will almost certainly die prematurely as a result.

Not that you care.

LHS56 3 years, 4 months ago

Some good....some not so good...opinions. However, the question is how do we keep the SRS Office open. First we need to determine if the SRS biggies will keep the office open in Lawrence if a facility if avaiable for $1.00 per year. (SRS will still need to pay utilities, upkeep, etc....a triple net lease.) If SRS will, then will they allow the public three months to raise the necessary funds and enter into a contract for a facility. Perhaps the landlord where SRS is currently located....I'm sure the owner has already recovered his investment four fold and another 120% profit shoud be satisfactory to him. Or there are other locations.
We need an SRS office in Lawrence. I'm willing to help with the fund raising. Any others????

Centerville 3 years, 4 months ago

"Under the reorganization...Kansas City, Lawrence and Overland Park would be in the same regional office" Oct 10, 2003 "SRS already has closed 26 of its 105 offices and plans to close another 37 by July 1, 2005, leaving 42 to operate as "service centers." Oct 10, 2003 "The...announcement also is part of Gov. Kathleen Sibileus' efforts to portray her administration as making state government more efficient." Oct 10, 2003 and: "Hundreds Rock Out at Protest of SRS Office Closings" Oct 12, 2003 (just kidding about this last one)

gudpoynt 3 years, 4 months ago

Good article.

Funny though.... I didn't see where "Sibileus" (sic), hired a reorganizer she met at prayer rallies in D.C. years prior to come in and completely close an office where 87 people work, and 10,000+ are served, with virtually no plan in place to absorb the impact of such a drastic action.

"Cintirvelle's thoughtful comments exhibit thorough understanding of issue" July, 18 2011 (just kidding about this last one).

Hudson Luce 3 years, 4 months ago

For the mentally and physically disabled people who get cut, if they haven't got a network of family or people to look out for them, they'll end up dying sooner, in pretty horrible conditions, maybe dying from the heat because they can't afford air conditioning, or freezing to death in the winter. Maybe a lot of them will end up in the Douglas County Jail, because they can't afford their meds and they'll act out and do crazy stuff - and there'll have to be more tax money to house them and feed them in the jail. Before the cuts, they're able to have houses to live in, not have to steal food, and have meds to control their behavior. Cut out the meds, put them out in the streets, and make it so that they have to steal food or starve... It'll be a transformative experience for Lawrence, I'll guarantee it.

Hudson Luce 3 years, 4 months ago

By the way, it costs at least $52 per day to house a person at the Douglas County Jail, that's $1560 per month, almost $19,000 per year... so it might be cheaper to figure out a different way to deal with this.

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