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Southern Poverty Law Center criticizes Kobach’s proposals on illegal immigration

January 30, 2011

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— As Secretary of State Kris Kobach tries to put in place more rules before a Kansan can vote, his associations are being highlighted by critics of his effort.

The Southern Poverty Law Center earlier this month released a report focusing on Kobach’s legal and advocacy work to pass measures in cities and states that Kobach says are designed to combat illegal immigration.

But the law center, a nonprofit civil rights group based in Birmingham, Ala., says his proposals are misguided, have led to expensive legal challenges and have stirred up racial tensions.

“Behind all of this stands one man: Kris Kobach, a former Kansas City law professor who was just elected Kansas secretary of state,” the report says.

Kobach has been legal counsel to the Immigration Reform Law Institute, which is the legal arm of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR).

The Southern Poverty Law Center says FAIR is a racist organization. The center’s report on Kobach describes the Republican as a political opportunist, comparing him to the character of con man Harold Hill in the musical “The Music Man.”

“Like Hill, they say, Kobach comes to town with big ideas and a can-do attitude but leaves behind a trail of tears — huge legal bills and unworkable laws coupled with social turmoil,” the report said.

Kobach called the report a hit piece.

“The Southern Poverty Law Center has been saying negative things about me for a long time,” Kobach said. He said the group has “basically become a left-wing smear organization.”

Under his voting bill, Kansans would need a photo ID to vote. New voters would have to prove they are citizens to register to vote. Penalties for violating election laws would be increased, and Kobach would have more powers to prosecute allegations of election fraud. Kobach says the changes are necessary to ensure Kansas elections are free of improprieties.

Democrats oppose the legislation and say they are alarmed by Kobach’s “power grab.”

“I would seriously question giving Kris Kobach prosecution power, and wonder if he would be able to use those objectively. He is a partisan Republican,” said Senate Democratic Leader Anthony Hensley of Topeka. Kobach once served as chairman of the Kansas Republican Party.

During that time, Kobach said in a newsletter to state Republicans, “To date, the Kansas GOP has identified and caged more voters in the last 11 months than the previous two years.”

Voter caging is a term that often refers to voter suppression efforts, but at the time Kansas Republican Party officials said Kobach’s use of the term meant the party was trying to identify voters and their views on certain issues.

But the Kansas chapter of the NAACP hasn’t forgotten the incident. In a recent news release, the group said Kobach’s new bill would “institutionalize vote caging” by forcing voters to produce multiple documents that the secretary of state’s office could then scrutinize in search of irregularities.

Kobach says his proposal to increase the office’s prosecutorial authority is necessary because local prosecutors, dealing with limited resources, often don’t pursue complaints of voting irregularities.

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915_Stroker 3 years, 2 months ago

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:, Sorry I Wasen"t Done YET!!:,

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915_Stroker 3 years, 2 months ago

We"LL , I Mean, What ever it Takes to Get"M out of HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:

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915_Stroker 3 years, 2 months ago

Compromise, People,Compromise!!:.

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ivalueamerica 3 years, 2 months ago

Interesting the stark raving mad attacks on the SPLC, but no one has actually been able to refute any facts they presented, just the people who presented them.

It is a common act of the desperate and weak minded, if you can not attack the facts, kill the messenger.

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Scott Morgan 3 years, 2 months ago

I will volunteer for any group that makes sure that all older people, people of color,

Wow!

in 2011 my o my with no second place the above is the most racist thing I've ever read in the past few months. Tomato, it aint 1920 anymore.

LIboguilt is running ramped.

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Scott Morgan 3 years, 2 months ago

tuschka, Socialism can be easily defined. A theoretical government which has never worked. Nuff said, or do you need more of a definition? Paaaaaaallllllllllllleeeeeeeeezeeee do not mention Greece, Sweden, or Spain as examples.

Haitian refugees swam by a socialist nation only a few miles from the border, only to risk life and limb and I may add another 500 miles to make it to this wonderful nation. Do these folks know something you can tell them?

Now tell me what I do not know about socialism tuschka.

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tomatogrower 3 years, 2 months ago

If this law passes, I will volunteer for any group that makes sure that all older people, people of color, and people who have little funds to get a state id. I will help drive them there and make sure there is money if they don't have one. Think Kobach will join me? No, because caging votes is his goal, not preventing voter fraud. I will make sure he doesn't cage any vote in Kansas.

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Mike Ford 3 years, 2 months ago

you probably can't even accurately define socialism or it's benefits. you'd rather be fibbed to by people being propped up by the Kochs or Armey and some faux uneducated quasi revolution. How smart of you.

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deec 3 years, 2 months ago

Why did you show your id to vote? It is not required...yet.

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Scott Morgan 3 years, 2 months ago

I just wonder why it's so important a topic so many are outraged. Show I.D. and vote in our elections. I did it. My father did it, his father before did it. Canadians do it. Legal voting is one of the foundation stones of our great nation.

Actually we in the U.S. are one of the few countries which doesn't require I.D. I assume our founding fathers thought we would never be so stupid to even need a law clarifying who can vote.

Why the problem with showing now I.D.? Why is so important and don't hand me the cost of I.D. bilge water. Something smells in this argument. Something not right.

Weep out loud I'm poor in our great country and things happen far to easy.

The more smoke I see, the more I believe a basis for lib power is illegal voting or pouring more ignorant voters to the side of socialism.

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Mike Ford 3 years, 2 months ago

some of you are really good at denying the obivous. why is this? code language has sure come a long way.

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Tom Shewmon 3 years, 2 months ago

Tomatogrower says: "Tom, anyone, even you may join La Raza, so how are they racists? Any evidence?"

http://www.nclr.org/index.php/support_us/donate_now/

La Raza= The Race

May God Bless.

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pigballin 3 years, 2 months ago

The Southern Poverty Center is a corrupt anti American communist org. Anyone that knows what this can of worms is all about, does care about the citizens that are out of a job and can leave this country with this scum outfit and i will say good riddance form all of us patriots.

I hope the state imposes harsh penalties against any employer who knowingly hires illegals.

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markoo 3 years, 2 months ago

The problem I have with Kobach and the Republicans who support him is the obvious problem of Kobach addressing a problem that does not exist, and spending tax payer dollars on these anti-immigration experiments in various communities and states. It's been well-documented that the problem Kobach is addressing here in Kansas is actually not a problem at all and hasn't been for decades. One may conclude that the current system apparently works quite well in keeping noncitizens from voting in the first place, but I digress.

But even if one dismisses this criticism and supports his actions on principle, herein lies the contradiction with "fiscal" conservatives, i.e. those like Tea Party activists, Right Wing media blowhards and their supporters who seemingly overlook the fact that Kobach's actions are costing taxpayers millions of dollars. His FAIR group helped pass ordinances in various communities in Pennsylvania, Nebraska, Missouri, and Texas. IRLI (Kobach's group) director Michael Hethmon has described these places as "field tests." So what has these testing sites brought to the local and state taxpayers? Well in Penn. it was $2.8 mill, Texas $3.7 mill, Nebraska $750K, Missouri $270K, and how much has the AZ law costed so far? Oh yeah, none of these places have held up in the courts yet either.

So as these laws continue to be struck down and the litigation costs continue to rise, can we have a little more fiscal sanity from so-called conservatives who seem so darn concerned over our state and federal budgets? When can we call these "field tests" a waste on taxpayer money on problems that do not actually exist?

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mr_right_wing 3 years, 2 months ago

Please show me some proof that the SPLC is not a completely partisan organization. When have they ever criticized a democrat and/or liberal?

I'm pretty sure I already know the answer, but maybe someone has some legitimate proof otherwise ('legitimate' automatically disqualified 'wikipedia'.)

President Reagan granted amnesty in 1986, but I'm sure they trashed him despite that.

To most on the left (I didn't say all) any kind of boarder enforcement is 'racist'.

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Ralph Reed 3 years, 2 months ago

It strikes me that if Kobach calls the SPLC report on FAIR a hit piece and says also that the SPLC has been saying negative things about him for a long time, then he should counter what they said and not attack the SPLC. His attacking the organization without countering they report lends credence to what they said.

From a 20 Jan 2011 Newsweek article (http://www.newsweek.com/2011/01/30/america-s-deporter-in-chief.html). "From a base in Kansas, where he is the newly seated secretary of state, Kobach will help Arizona defend his laws against all comers." "He’ll also counsel a dozen or so states that are considering copycat laws and a coordinated assault on birthright citizenship. And he’ll litigate at least four ongoing immigration-related cases..." How can he devote his full time to the duties of the Kansas Secretary of State when he's using that position as a base to counsel and advise other states? He's not devoting his full time to the Kansas Secretary of State position. In other words, the people of Kansas elected him so he could have a secure salary when working for other states.

From a description of FAIR (found here, http://www.newcomm.org/pdf/CNC-FAIR.pdf), John Tanton, the original founder of FAIR, supports white supremacist groups, anti-Semitic groups and is in favor of passive eugenics. His influence permeates FAIR's policies and, if you look, that influence is racist at it's core. So, the SPLC is probably correct in calling FAIR racist based on their core beliefs and policies.

FAIR's being a racist organization and Kobach's being the "deporter -in-chief" are fair assumptions. His attacking the SPLC is understandable given the way he counters arguments in the article, 'attack the person (SPLC) not the argument.' I believe this is ad hominem. If Kobach says the SPLC has been saying negative things about him for a long time, then perhaps they're correct. Especially in light of the fact he's an adviser to the legal arm of FAIR and thus supposedly supports their core beliefs.

I think it's a legitimate call on the part of the SPLC.

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Casca 3 years, 2 months ago

America is emotionally tired and mentally divided on the growing illegal immigration issue. Most lawmakers are afraid of it and will not touch it. For the prior thirty years or so these supposed legislators working for the American people have crippled any new laws against constructing the border wall, E-Verify or anything else that's come their way. Today is entirely different as many strong minded legislators as Sen. Sessions, and a few others have explored the massive impact of this terrible plague of cheap foreign labor. Arizona Governor Brewer and State Representative Peirce have realized the terrible impact they have had to bare, from those illegal workers and their families. As a Border State it has had to suffer silently, but with the gigantic downturn of the caustic housing market, brought upon us by such silent partners in crime as Andrew Cuomo who made it extremely easy through threats to force banks to offer low income, and a majority of illegal alien’s families to buy homes.

On the main agenda now is the burgeoning battle over the 14th Amendment that gives rights immediately to the new born of an illegal parent? The commentary on this is well known, but to my opinion that anybody with a parent who owns allegiance to a foreign country, cannot have any binding right to any citizenship. Eventually the Supreme Court will hear the State of Arizona pleading to overrule the law meant for just slaves after the Civil War. However, with three (I think) out of five justices the law, will stay the same. We can certainly without any exceptions deport the parent or parents? Most Liberal doctrines are a sad ideology, that is a disgrace to this sovereign country and indirectly the progressives are to blame for the 2.500 people who died in the carnage at the World trade Center. Law enforcement was prohibited to ask, certain question of the Muslim murderers who crashed the jets into the buildings thanks to the "Politically Correct" philosophy of a zealot extremists in the Democratic Party.

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Casca 3 years, 2 months ago

This report lays out some truths about the birthright law, that outlines some facts that American patriots must explore: http://tinyurl.com/48gpodm This become unfair game to the despondent US Taxpayer as the 14th Amendment is costing taxpayers billions of dollars annually, that should be going to our poor, our senior citizens, our homeless veterans, our mentally handicapped the old and sick. http://tinyurl.com/46ffz6g and http://tinyurl.com/48bkx23 and http://tinyurl.com/45kopdl Until the Liberal progressives cut off our right to "Free Speech" or introduce the "Fairness Doctrine" I will bring to America attention the dangers of illegal immigration, chain migration and amnesty. Here are the projections of costs of the huge inflow of women 9 month pregnant females and ready to conceive, arriving from every country from one hemisphere to the other, getting free prenatal care, welfare and even as they have more children low income housing. : http://tinyurl.com/2upevd And http://tinyurl.com/4pl97mo

Another rip off of America's tax base is the massive fraud of the child tax credit, that the Fed's have done absolutely nothing about? http://tinyurl.com/mhh22q. This is mostly attributed to illegal immigrants who are largely responsible for this silent fraud that our taxes pay for. Another interesting statistic is "How many illegal immigrants have settled in the US, " is an article located in the Christian Science Monitor: http://tinyurl.com/6etlnm I have added these new links because there are so many negative points that must be explored

We must introduce every form of enforcement, including the border fence and scrutiny of every female who steps of a jet or arrive by ship. REMEMBER MOST LIBERTARIAN MEDIA WILL HAVE NO COMMENT BOX FOR YOU TO USE YOUR HEALTHY INTELLECT, AGAINST THEIR RAMBLING AGENDA'S BY SPEAKING OUT WITH FREE SPEECH. THEY ALWAYS TURN TO FOUL LANGUAGE, OR RACIST EPITHETS TO GRIND YOU DOWN, SO YOU WILL NOT STAND AGAINST THIS FINANCIALLY TROUBLING ISSUE. Join a local TEA Party http://tinyurl.com/1pzd for less government intrusion, fair taxation and to erase the illegal alien invasion that will escalate your tax burden. Learn more about this simmering financial problem and its consequences at http://tinyurl.com/c8y7re and http://tinyurl.com/zjsgl

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Number_1_Grandma 3 years, 2 months ago

All this attention for a part-time Kansas Secretary of State. A wannabe republican ( less government ) who promotes more government regulations! Go figure....Only in America and only in Kansas. See what 'evolution' has gotten us!

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Mike Ford 3 years, 2 months ago

I have a day job, what about you Tom Shewmon? it would seem that Walter Mitty would better fit a person that posts throughout the day. Keep up your infomercial gig. Maybe someday you wil be hawking something on the Knology cable system when all of the regular programming ends. It's nice to know that like true conservative bloggers you ignore the hit and score and change the subject. Not cowardly at all, not at all.

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BigPrune 3 years, 2 months ago

The Southern Poverty Law Center's biggest contributor is George Soros. So much for being impartial.

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blindrabbit 3 years, 2 months ago

Seig Heil, Herr Kobach; first voter outings, maybe next BrownShirts, Krystalnacht, Bookburning, Long Knives, pure Aryans and racial cleansing. Suggest you get Herr Beck to be your spokesman. Auf Widersehen!!

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konzahawk 3 years, 2 months ago

Keep up the good fight, Kris. When this joke of an "organization" starts their attack, you know you must be on the right track.

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Tom Shewmon 3 years, 2 months ago

Why is it when Tuschy post, I think of "The Secret Life of Walter Mitty".

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Mike Ford 3 years, 2 months ago

let's see the SPLC helped the african american mother of a son hanged by young recruits of the KKK in Mobile, AL sue the KKK nearly out of existence in the late 1970's-early 1980's. I grew up in Lake Charles and Shreveport, LA at that time and had family near Mobile. It's nice to see that none of the deniers have any sense or knowledge of recent history. Congrats, you fit the demographic that the TPer's and the GOP want. Like Haley Barbour and his bad accent you all can try to imagine your sins of omission away, but I'm more than obliged to remind you of them. It's scary to see that fascist smile of Mr. Kobach in his press picture. It takes me back to World War Two pictures of Germany for Germans and Poland for Poles. No is thinking Kansas for Kansans because of Mr. Kobach at all. No one....

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WilburNether 3 years, 2 months ago

The SPLC is a left-wing organization, so it is hardly surprising that the LJW's house Democrat reporter would turn to them for a "news story."

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matthewlyon 3 years, 2 months ago

Posters here have pointed out the dubious nature of the SPLC's charges and that organization's corrupt history. Why was this left out of this article? Where's the balance and objective reporting?

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ophiuchus 3 years, 2 months ago

"Kobach called the report a hit piece."

... as opposed to a "miss" piece?

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Scott Morgan 3 years, 2 months ago

Perhaps we should become progressive and use Canadian law as a blueprint.

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Paul R Getto 3 years, 2 months ago

Solomon: "Always" is pretty strong. I don't think any of us want to go there when discussing various political entities. We are all guilty of impure thoughts and inconsistencies. The commentary from this group points out some issues of concern, regardless of their origin. In the meantime, Kobach sullies his excellent academic background with his insistence on hunting unicorns. He needs to concentrate on his clerk's job and make sure the paperwork is properly accounted for. That's what he ran for, not "International Man of Mystery" and THE ONE who will solve a complex immigration problem with a simple solution. I believe H.L. Mencken mentioned this once. "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong."

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Eybea Opiner 3 years, 2 months ago

Why does the left wing always defend and support law breakers?

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kugrad 3 years, 2 months ago

When people attach the Southern Poverty Law Center, you know you are leaving the realm of reasonableness and rational thought and entering the realm of propaganda and delusion.

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ignati5 3 years, 2 months ago

The SPLC may be called a "left wing smear organization" in the same sense that the NRA has been termed by some an organization advocating violence to persons. Both are adamant in their defense of the Bill of Rights, although each emphasizes different amendments; both brand opponents of their causes by name; both inspire the fear and loathing of their opponents. The NRA has a much wider national membership and funds candidates, whereas the SPLC is an elitist collective of lawyers. It is unfair, howerver, to denounce either as falling outside the bounds of legitimate political discourse, although each may merit some criticism for misrepresenting their opponents' positions. Mr. Kobach's policies deserve criticism short of branding his organization as "racist." although I do believe the Harold Hill analogy is an apt one. As he seems to have misrepresented his contributions to the Arizona immigration law and exaggerated his national influence, he remains a problem mostly for Kansans to deal with.

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oldvet 3 years, 2 months ago

SPLC never met a minority they thought might be guilty...

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Jackie Jackasserson 3 years, 2 months ago

is it the top two leaders that have an account in the Caymans or the SPLLC. if it is the former - anyone can choose to have that kind of set up if they have the funding right??

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jmadison 3 years, 2 months ago

The tax statement of the SPLLC filed in 2010 to the IRS indicates net assets of $200 million dollars, their top two leaders are both paid over $340,000 per year, and they have an offshore bank account in the Cayman Islands(why would a non-profit need such an account). http://mpetrelis.blogspot.com/2010/11/southern-poverty-law-centers-cayman.html

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rkeefe57 3 years, 2 months ago

"The Southern Poverty Law Center says FAIR is a racist organization."

Always a hoot to hear the SPLC accusing others of being a racist organization. In his 1991 autobiography, "A Season for Justice," SPLC founder Morris Dees waxes sentimental about his days as "Youth Coordinator" for Gov. George "Segregation Forever!" Wallace and his skills as a highly paid Klan lawyer in Montgomery.

http://wp.me/pCLYZ-F

The most ironic (read: “hypocritical”) thing about the Southern Poverty Law Center is that NOT ONE of its top ten, highest paid executives is a minority, and certainly not an immigrant.

http://wp.me/pCLYZ-67

In fact, according to the SPLC’s hometown newspaper, the Montgomery Advertiser, despite being located LITERALLY in the back yard of Dr. Martin Luther King’s home church, the SPLC has NEVER hired a person of color to a highly paid position of power.

Some “experts”

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