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Legislation filed to legalize medical marijuana in Kansas

February 16, 2011

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— Legislation has been filed to legalize medical marijuana for people with debilitating conditions, such as cancer.

“I feel very strongly that the chronically and terminally ill should be allowed to use the medicine that works best for them without having to fear being arrested or thrown in jail,” said state Rep. Gail Finney, D-Wichita, who suffers from lupus.

“I am not advocating the use of cannabis for recreational types of activity,” Finney said Wednesday.

House Bill 2330 would provide for the registration and operations of not-for-profit “compassion centers,” which would have the authority to possess, cultivate, manufacture and dispense marijuana. Buyers would have to have a doctor’s prescription and a license from the Kansas Department of Health and Environment. The license would permit them to possess up to six ounces of marijuana.

Medical marijuana would be allowed for patients with cancer, HIV/AIDS, hepatitis C, Crohn’s disease, multiple sclerosis and others.

Currently, 15 states and Washington, D.C., have medical marijuana laws, Finney said.

Proposals have been made in the past in Kansas for medical marijuana, but they have never gotten anywhere in the legislative process.

Comments

homechanger 4 years, 2 months ago

Like browncrack would ever sign that into law.

sr80 4 years, 2 months ago

SB could receive a subsidy for putting his land back into use to grow some maryjane!!! for that kind of bargain he might bite!!! er smoke!!!

whats_going_on 4 years, 2 months ago

thats what I was thinking, theres no way. And if there is, kudo to him.

KS420 4 years, 2 months ago

Hey 'ol Brownbck had a beer named after him recently....Maybe he will consider the cause.....for a pause. The 15 other states already are not as poor Anymore....

somedude20 4 years, 2 months ago

Charlie Sheen for Governor!!! People think pot is bad, what until CS is gov, your tax refund will be 8 grams and mildly attractive hooker

blindrabbit 4 years, 2 months ago

Bring back The Kaw Valley Hemp Pickers. The clothes dryers at the Laundromat at 9th and Mississippi Street still have hemp leaves and residue from all the drying that went on back in the 60-70's. Rennie Davis and NORML would be proud!

somedude20 4 years, 2 months ago

Johnny Chimpo said this will go over like a Led Zepplin

mbulicz 4 years, 2 months ago

Well, the butler is basically saying to Johannes Chimpo, "Don't let the Great Satan tempt you with the Western culture. You must remain true to the Taliban warlord."

Danimal 4 years, 2 months ago

The best thing Kansas could do for its economy would be to legalize non-intoxicant hemp to grow for industrial purposes. It's great for biodiesel, plastics, clothing, paper, etc...

Medical marijuana will never happen in Kansas, especially with Brownback in office. Heck, if the Federal Govt. legalized pot, Kansas would probably keep it illegal just to spite ourselves. I say Kansas should take it a step beyond medical MJ and just legalize it outright. We could grow more industrial hemp and intoxicant marihuana here than just about anywhere else in the world. Of course, that would require some vision and intellect, both of which are in short supply in Topeka.

CHKNLTL 4 years, 2 months ago

don't forget hemp milk, a delicious lactose-free alternative packed with omega 3 and 6 and rich in protein.

i never want to see the government in charge of regulating street drugs. everything they run they ruin.

Bob Forer 4 years, 2 months ago

That is one brave legislator. The bill has absolutely no chance of being passed, and I am sure that if she files for re-election, her republican opponent will attempt to crucify her with it. Nice to see a politician standing up for something she believes in rather than pandering to the lowest common denominator.

CHKNLTL 4 years, 2 months ago

Finney has taken this bill before the legislature in the past. Wichita is a more progressive city than the rest of the state (where she's from). They don't fluoridate their water either. Don't see any cities rushing to follow that lead.

kernal 4 years, 2 months ago

Kaw Valley Hemp Growers Union, honeychile.

Bob Forer 4 years, 2 months ago

I understand that not ever medical patient experiences a therapeutic response to marijuana. Sorry to hear it wasn't beneficial to you. Hope your health improves.

engagedecoy 4 years, 2 months ago

Sry you didnt benefit from it, but as with every drug in the world, its subject to the bodies response and may not affect others the same way. It does have proven benefits for the ppl it does affect in the appropriate way.

nlg151 4 years, 2 months ago

I am very sorry to hear about all your medical issues and the pain that they cause you. I do however have a question on why you smoked cannabis for 10 years before you realized it was doing nothing for you? You also mentioned in one of your posts that it made you relaxed, that to me in itself sounds like a BENEFIT of cannabis as a medication. That being said, there are numerous people out there who suffer from a variety of illnesses that do benefit from the Medical usage of cannabis. Evidence of this can be found in RECENT research of medicinal cannabis done by non-biased organizations. I'm not saying that ALL people who claim to need it for medicinal reasons are being 100% honest but having it regulated and taxed (yes, I'm for taxation of cannabis) will help keep it out of the hands of kids, allow this new revenue stream to help educate young people with facts, not the old school, non-working means of "just say no" and refer madness propaganda and lastly it will open the doors to perform more tests and research on cannabis to see what negative side effects it may actually cause. People need to become educated on this topic using research and facts and not simply rely on the propaganda we've been "taught" by the government for far too long.

redneck 4 years, 2 months ago

So as long as we can raise lots of money, we should legalize it? Do you have no integrity? It's just a game so the pot heads can smoke it legally. Not that I believe I'm better than others, just not sure why people think they have to get stoned to have a good time. I know booze is even worse, but our society doesn't need to legalize yet ANOTHER controlled substance. Booze has destroyed people's lives, and I don't see how legalizing mary jane is going to help anybody. You can take pain meds without getting stoned.

Grundoon Luna 4 years, 2 months ago

Sedatives, muscle relaxors, and anti-axiety drugs can have hangover effects like liquor does and are more addictive than MJ is. Really, though, this can be very good for our state: increased revenue, good for farmers, people will benefit from the effects of MJ avoiding some of the harmful sideaffecte of some pharascueticals. It's a win-win.

A friend of mine told me the other day her optometrist can tell when someone has stopped smoking. Their eye pressure gets way out of whack form the year prior and they have glaucoma all of a sudden - something that should not have gotten so bad between annual exams.

halfnhalf 4 years, 2 months ago

As well as increasing tax revenue, it would also reduce violence because as we should all know by now prohibition never works. Also it would most likely save us tax dollars that we put into our overcrowded prison systems. No more non-violent drug offenders to worry about...at least the pot dealers.

Hudson Luce 4 years, 2 months ago

The State of Kansas legalized gambling, dog and horse racing, and the numbers rackets (the Kansas Lottery), and makes a lot of money off of it, money that used to go to organized crime; if marijuana were legalized, the Mexican drug gangs, whose major profit center is marijuana, would be out of business. The KBI would suffer, because they wouldn't be getting their $400 "lab fee" for doing $20 worth of work for every marijuana possession case, and the Kansas Highway Patrol would lose a major source of income from cash payments in lieu of civil forfeiture of houses, cars, and farmland, and the prison industrial complex would lose a major source of slave labor. Anything we can do to make Kansas a freer place is a good thing. Alcohol prohibition benefitted only a minority of people including organized crime and law enforcement; also, possession was not outlawed, only the sale and transport of alcohol was prohibited. People had the good sense to overturn that prohibition only after 14 years, marijuana has been illegal for 74 years, and the profits keep rolling in. It's time to put an end to marijuana prohibition...

slowplay 4 years, 2 months ago

OK. I'm assuming you have been purchasing your weed from somewhere. Unless you grow your own do you honestly believe you are paying fair market value. That weed your smoking has been "taxed" many, many times since it was cultivated.

slowplay 4 years, 2 months ago

Deacon, Sorry, I don't smoke the "evil weed" but you are assuming the same marketplace as if was still illegal. It would be grown locally. In California, medical grade weed sells for about half of the street purchase price. Add in the fact you can grow limited quantities on your own, your cost decreases substantially.

gudpoynt 4 years, 2 months ago

slowplay is right. For a long time, I wondered how the market would respond to legalized pot, how would prices be affected.

Turns out, in CA where it has been highly decriminalized, the prices have dropped. The defeat of complete legalization when it came up on the ballot recently, is said to have been orchestrated by the growers themselves, knowing that complete legalization would likely lead to even further drops in revenue for them.

CloveK 4 years, 2 months ago

Like slowplay said. Legalized weed will be cheaper because the black market creates the inflated price. It should be legal at state and federal levels and it should be taxed. Just as alcohol and tobacco are taxed today. I would much rather pay a heavy tax on it and see that money used to help the states economy than help the dude slinging on the corner buy a nicer TV.

slowplay 4 years, 2 months ago

The level of THC would not be restricted. There are not any toxic effects to THC. There has never been a documented case of marijuana overdose. In order for a human to consume enough marijuana to be fatal, they would have to consume nearly 40,000 times the amount of THC required to intoxicate them. Marinol, approved by the FCC is 100% synthetic THC. In fact in California, the level of THC must be advertised so you know exactly what you are buying.

gudpoynt 4 years, 2 months ago

Do a little research and you'll see that simply hasn't been the case so far. There's real live evidence of what would likely happen going on in California and Colorado right now. Prices have gone down, and quality has remained more or less the same.

notanota 4 years, 2 months ago

So you'd rather pay for it with the blood of all the people that die in crimes surrounding the trafficking of illegal drugs? You'd rather pay to subsidize the mafia than pay for kids to go to school?

MilkZombie 4 years, 2 months ago

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Adrienne Sanders 4 years, 2 months ago

We can't even have real beer in the grocery store, how likely do you think this is?

halfnhalf 4 years, 2 months ago

They are pushing for liquor sales in grocery stores in Kansas as we speak...

Shane Garrett 4 years, 2 months ago

I should have put that in Quotes, as it is a book title about the Kaw Valley Hemp Pickers.

loveroflarry 4 years, 2 months ago

"The license would permit them to possess up to six ounces of marijuana." I wonder how long that would last at the compassion center...

I too am sorry for the above poster that it didn't work for you.

The claim of medicinal mj is not that is cures disease, it's about nausea and pain management. Next, it's a natural substance and not engineered in a lab and has fewer of the side effects of traditional pharms.

Even fox is becoming more supportive... http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/10/19/benefits-marijuana/

kernal 4 years, 2 months ago

Legalization is a solution to much of our budget problem, but it still ain't gonna happen.

Look how long it took to get liquor by the drink in KS after Prohibition ended! If the tax revenue hadn't been such a large carrot, it never would have passed.

pace 4 years, 2 months ago

I think it has a chance to pass. A lot of cancer victims out there and it crosses party lines. Medical marijuana is not bought off the street or causes Mexican border traffic. It actually reduces illegal trafficking. If you have never feed nourishment by the teaspoon into a loved one and prayed they could keep it down, you might not understand.

William McCauley 4 years, 2 months ago

Kansas will be the 55th state to join the MMJ party.

Crazy_Larry 4 years, 2 months ago

Some cops say "legalize drugs."

http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php

"Drug abuse and gang violence flourish in a drug prohibition environment, just as they did during alcohol prohibition."

Legalized medical marijuana is a step in the right direction.

ksjayhawk74 4 years, 2 months ago

Legal prescription medications are able to advertise heavily on television and have to spend 3/4 of the commercial listing the known side effects such as, seizures, coma, suicidal tendencies, death, etc....

They actually tell the viewer to ask their Doctor if their drug is right for them... "Doctor, is this medication that might kill me, is it right for me?"

Then there's all the commercials for law firms asking if you took the prescription drugs that were advertised just a few years ago. They want to know because if you did... a drug manufacturer owes you a lot of money for what it did to you.

Now, what are the side effects of smoking marijuana?

amesn 4 years, 2 months ago

As we all know, prescription pain medications, opiates, are highly addictive and you quickly build a tolerance to them with extended use, thus significantly increasing your chances of not only psychological addiction but physiological as well. There are also studies that show these medications can actually make pain worse in certain conditions. I feel medical marijuana would be a better solution for treating some conditions if it actually reduces the suffering for the individual. There is no physiological withdrawal from marijuana and while you will possibly have to smoke more over time for it to be effective, it is not as harmful imo as increasing opiate doses. I really hope the state of Kansas passes this legislation but I know the chances are slim. Hopefully their reluctance to pass certain aspects of alcohol regulation is because politicians realize its true harm-alcohol consumption is way more destructive and harmful than marijuana smoking.

Katara 4 years, 2 months ago

You mention medications possibly making pain worse. It happens with migraine medications. You can end up have what are called rebound migraine which are just as bad as the ones you took the migraine medications for. It becomes a vicious cycle.

amesn 4 years, 2 months ago

Yes, you are exactly right. There is such a thing as an opiate induced migraine. I work as an ER nurse and most all docs have now quit giving opiate pain meds for migraines because of this very reason (not to ,ention the substantial number of frequent flyer drug seekers who claim ONLY dilaudid, demerol, or morphine works for their "migraine" ) They have now resorted to a more beneficial and safer cocktail of Toradol, a anti-histamine such as Benadryl or Vistiril, and anti-nausea medications like Zofran. In other conditions, as opiate use is increased, the body needs more and more for effectiveness and when this isn't achieved body aches that feel similar to the flu can set in, so then the individual is not only suffering from their chronic ailment but this as well. Don't get me wrong, I don't completely discount the use of opiates for pain control, they are definately needed for incoherant patients and what not, I have just witnessed first hand what damage they can cause if not properly managed. *I also learned in high school that "ditch weed" marijuana will give you a headache, so if you are going to smoke it, make it the good stuff :)

CloveK 4 years, 2 months ago

While this won't pass, it is a step in the right direction. Five years ago I wasn't sure it was possible, now I believe that some day within the next ten years we will see legalized weed.

What I find most ridiculous is that it is still listed as a class 1 drug, having no medicinal value to the federal government. Cocaine and heroin however are class 2 and do have a medical purpose.

Its all the political BS and the lobbying by big tobacco and pharmaceutical industy.

Beth Bird 4 years, 2 months ago

Wonderful idea! I wish it would pass but with Brownback, every citizen in the state could vote yes and he would still say no.

LloydDobbler 4 years, 2 months ago

We need to legalize medical marijuana so we can get through the next four years of the Brownback administration. It's painful and should be added to the bill as a condition for which you can get a prescription.

jessanddaron 4 years, 2 months ago

I'm sorry MMJ didn't help the above poster but I suffer from abdominal/stomach/GI issues and I've been prescribed every pill under the sun. None of them have come close to the alleviation in symptoms that MMJ brings. If a doctor says it will help you, I don't believe a legislator (with no background medical info on you) has the right to say it is wrong.

sr80 4 years, 2 months ago

my dear sunshine i can't believe that you partake in the demon weed!! what a shock,i am truly amazed!!!!

FloridaSunshine 4 years, 2 months ago

I'm not thinking of myself, sr80...my daughter has MS...and I know of others who could be helped by using it for medical purposes. I do not believe it should be legalized for recreational use.

sr80 4 years, 2 months ago

if she does use i hope it is of help.i don't see any problem with legalizing weed,you just to treat it like alcohol and know when to say when!!! you can tell i know!!

countrygal07 4 years, 2 months ago

Marijuana should be available for those with chronic pain and medical issues. By legalizing jail cells would have more room for the severe offenders. However I dont agree with paying taxes on it. If its considered a medical need and one needs a prescription to buy than it should be like going to Walgreen and getting your prescriptions. There is no tax involved. Brownback may not pass this but who says we cant get alot of signatures and make the public vote on it?

halfnhalf 4 years, 2 months ago

Not saying it will, but the ONLY way it will pass is if it is taxed. The ONLY way. There has to be some beneficial relationship with our state's government for this to ever pass here.

loveroflarry 4 years, 2 months ago

I think the tax issue is not spending tax dollars on smoking pot but generating tax revenue through pot sales? (I may have read your comment incorrectly).

It is no good that it didn't work for you (and from your earlier comment not much has?), but there have been studies which show that it does work for people and that the claimed side effects have no medical evidence to support them.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/10/19/benefits-marijuana/

bad_dog 4 years, 2 months ago

Do you really believe you should work to "kill this" legislation merely based on your personal experience? Several others have indicated it was beneficial to them or someone they knew.

I don't know whether MJ alleviates chronic pain or not. I believe it has been shown to be beneficial for glaucoma patients so I'd be inclined to give it the benefit of the doubt on that basis at least rather than allude this is all about hippies. I'd rather have it available as a treatment option than not. You've indicated that nothing-whether it be pharmaceutical or herbal in origin was beneficial to you. Perhaps it's just you?

Isn't it ironic that certain former members of the Kaw Valley crew are some of the most successful businessmen in town? So much for the MJ de-motivation generalizations...

Hudson Luce 4 years, 2 months ago

The most stringent opposition to this bill will most likely come from drug dealers who will, of course, not say that they are drug dealers but some other sort of "concerned citizen", and law enforcement which will lose a major revenue stream. Legal marijuana, legal for citizens to grow and possess, will put every drug dealer in the state out of business, and the prices will approximate those for tea or yerba mate, about $5.00 per ounce instead of $300 per ounce as it is now. Even if the state put a 100% tax on marijuana sold on the market, it would still be less than $20 per ounce, figuring in 100% profit for the seller - and people would have a hard time selling something anyone could grow.

slowplay 4 years, 2 months ago

So you have no problem with other opioids (oxycotin, morphine, codiene) that are available through prescription? Or perhaps you would prefer to ban all pain relieving drugs?

slowplay 4 years, 2 months ago

Melodrama? I think you are the one who is a little over the top on this. It's not a miracle drug, it's an option. It's not going to be available to everyone. It may not work for everyone. It's going to be prescription based, just like the drugs you took for your condition. Now if you want to argue against total legalization in a similar matter as alcohol, you have made some valid points, but what is being proposed is not the same thing.

sr80 4 years, 2 months ago

that is about the craziest crap i have ever heard in my life,you don't know what kind of medicine you were on!!! what if it was merely a placebo and you brainwashed yourself to think it worked!!! where are you from N2,it surely can't be this planet???

Beavis4you 4 years, 2 months ago

I applaud Rep. Finney for her intestinal fortitude to even intorduce this in Kansas, land of the red ruby slippers and everything else make believe. I love my state but it needs to get with the times and quit being holier than thou. Brownie will say "Let them eat cake, not brownies" If you haven't had a debilitating disease that cripples you, don't pretend to know or even begin to tell me what's good for me!

loveroflarry 4 years, 2 months ago

Have you even bothered to do any research?

Stuart Evans 4 years, 2 months ago

you seem quite ignorant on this subject.

bad_dog 4 years, 2 months ago

A. B. 3. D.

Looks like a question taken from the LSAT: What number or letter comes next in this sequence?

Autie, did one of yer cuzins help with this post or have you been partakin of the demon weed yer own self?

jessanddaron 4 years, 2 months ago

Autie, do you have an M.D.? Any sort of medical/pharmaceutical background? If the answer is no then don't even bother replying and offending more people on this thread. Someone said it best with their comment about no one knowing what it's like until they are just praying their loved ones can keep any food down. I can't tell if you are heartless or clueless?

I have had physicians IN THiS STATE tell me first hand that it is beneficial for my DAILY medical struggles and unfortunate that they cannot legally prescribe me this.

Autie, I've got some, what you would call, "stoner" friends who just got 33's and 35's respectively on the MCAT's. What did your holier than thou self get? Because you are obviously a medical professional with years of experience...

2002 4 years, 2 months ago

Any legitimate effort for legalization will not include "the registration and operations of not-for-profit “compassion centers,” which would have the authority to possess, cultivate, manufacture and dispense marijuana."

If you were going to legalize a drug, why wouldn't you dispense it like antibiotics or pain killers? Why not at an established, regulated pharmacy? The reason is: it's a scam and the intent is specifically NOT for medical purposes. California legalized medical marijuana and the problems haven't ended. In fact, the LA Times did a great article on how easy it is to get a "prescription" and buy whatever you want. In California, there is still a criminal element involved in dispensing medical marijuana and legalization has no brought the price down.

I support legalizing marijuana as long as the process for dispensing the drug is the same as other drugs. The problem is that it isn't a State issue. This is a Federal issue and just because the short term policy is to not enforce Federal Law does not mean that pharmacy's will take the legal risks. The way to solve the issue is to address it through the FDA.

loveroflarry 4 years, 2 months ago

The California example you provide is problematic for a few reasons. The first one is that the communities where there is more of a free-for-all (LA) lack the proper regulatory structure. Look at other states that learned this lesson (South Dakota, et al.) and made sure to have structured laws in place before passage. This issue contributes to the second problem of the idea that criminal elements are involved in mmj production: with a lack of proper implementation/regulation it's difficult to differentiate the illegal from the legal, or keep criminal elements out. The price issue would seemingly be attributed to the problem of the dual market--lack of regulation contributes to this problem as well.

Keith 4 years, 2 months ago

Well if your letter to the representatives is as clear as your writing here, I'm sure they will pay close attention.

Stuart Evans 4 years, 2 months ago

I guess that if you were having trouble sleeping or eating, then pot would have helped you huh. Just because it didn't help you, doesn't mean that it doesn't have benefits for many many others. the American Medical Association endorsed the study back in the 20's & 30's before it was deemed illegal, and they endorse the study of it now.

mbulicz 4 years, 2 months ago

Great use of false dichotomy and argument from experience.

If anything, your argument proves that cannabis should be mandatory for some people. Either that or your exclamation mark key appears to be a bit touchy.

engagedecoy 4 years, 2 months ago

The simple fact that our government is invading our freedoms by telling us that a plant that is naturally grown on our own soil, in our own lands, from our own people, and is substantially better than cigarettes for your finances and health, is illegal and can not be possessed or cultivated without facing harsh punishments that only further help degrade our economy and our fellow Americans. That fact that a simple possession charge can get you a more harsh punishment than a DUI is alarming to me. When is the United States going to wake up and actually do the research about why marijuana was criminalized in the 30's they might have a better understanding of what a major injustice our government has caused us. Please, research the history of marijuana prohibition, I urge everyone to do so then contact all your local government officials and stand up for your rights!

jessanddaron 4 years, 2 months ago

Northtown,

I am not too sure why you think because this was of no use to you personally that it can't be beneficial to others after medical studies have proved the opposite? I have prescriptions to medications that don't benefit me at all but I am not going to stand on a soap box and tell everyone they don't work. I am sure they work for plenty of people which is why they are FDA approved. Bottom line is you are not a doctor and don't know the patients body. End of story.

And Autie, feeling offended is different than acting holier-than-thou.

Stuart Evans 4 years, 2 months ago

you sound kinda like an old jaded drunk. what'd you replace pot with, religion?

mbulicz 4 years, 2 months ago

The sixties were not good to you, were they?

livinginlawrence 4 years, 2 months ago

Those interested in gaining an extremely interesting perspective on the notion of cannabis and its derivatives as medicine should watch "Run From the Cure: the Rick Simpson story." It can be found easily via Google, and is also on YouTube.

jessanddaron 4 years, 2 months ago

Northtown,

You should heed your own advice and use your "mind". And I dare you to tell those things to a cancer patient on chemotherapy who can't swallow (this includes pills) without immediately vomiting. Maybe they should just use their minds...

jessanddaron 4 years, 2 months ago

I watched this with my uncle and it brought me to my knees. And what do you think my conservative, NRA card holding, southern born and bred uncle did? His doctors, not in a legalized state, told him to get a hold of some MMJ because it would offer the most alleviation in all of the problems that come with chemotherapy. He sat in his favorite chair until his last day sipping his THC "milk". At least I was able to be there and talk to him as opposed to him being in the bathroom all day until he passed away. Some of you really need to do some thinking...

pizzapete 4 years, 2 months ago

I'm all for medical marijuana as long as people aren't just using it to have fun. Having fun should still be illegal.

mr_right_wing 4 years, 2 months ago

Doesn't really matter if I'm for or against it.

It's not going to happen.

(You'd have a better chance of getting the Kansas Arts Commission back.....)

Liberty275 4 years, 2 months ago

This is such a silly idea. Drugs shouldn't be made legal to ease someone's pain, they should be made legal because it is no business of the government what people do with their own bodies. Also, the government needs to nose out of other areas such as abortion, seat belts, prostitution, gambling and health insurance.

Don Whiteley 4 years, 2 months ago

So you're saying governments have no business controlling when people drive drunk. There's a great idea. You're also saying that when people become addicted, governments and taxpayers have no business paying for their treatment...I'm all for that. I can step over them lying in the sewers. And I agree governments have no business telling people they have to have health insurance as well. Hospitals and clinics should have the right to escort them out on the end of their boot if they can't pay...I fully support taxpayers not paying for the medical treatment of others. And I support you on abortion as well. If more mothers could abort offspring like you, the world would be a far better place.

Liberty275 4 years, 2 months ago

"So you're saying governments have no business controlling when people drive drunk."

The goverment has no business regarding what a person soes with their own body. That seems simple, but I guess it wasn't simple enough for somebody.

When you drink, you do something to your body. You kill brain cells, you make yourself barf and maybe even make yourself fall down. You damage your own body, which belongs to you, not another person or goverment.

When you get behind the wheel, there is a mediocre chance you will run into another car, harming someone else's body. While the ideal would be to not prosecute DUI at all, but only injury and damage to others and their property, it is a fair compromise to forbid it, given the horrible damage your actions in a compromised state might cause another person's body.

It's a sickening compromise. I don't like it, but I can live with it.

"You're also saying that when people become addicted, governments and taxpayers have no business paying for their treatment."

No we shouldn't pay for their treatment. If they are addicted to heroine, but heroine is readily available, I don't see a problem. Why do you want to force sobriety on a person that doesn't want it? What else do you want to force people to do to satisfy your sense of righteousness?

"I can step over them lying in the sewers."

That must mean you have legs and live somewhere with open sewers. I don't find that very interesting.

"And I support you on abortion as well. If more mothers could abort offspring like you, the world would be a far better place."

That's probably the only thing you said that approaches reality. There are too many people in the world today. Then again, the world would be just as well off without you. I'll make a deal with you. You jump first.

Don Whiteley 4 years, 2 months ago

What a crock of bull!!! Do people really think we're that dumb to believe that 99% of the people who apply for the use of marijuana for medical purposes are really using it that way? Just like in every other state who's legalized this, the vast majority of people who get a prescription are using it for recreational purposes. All it takes is to find one of a hundred different doctors who also take it for recreational purposes, and you're home free. If you're going to fight for the use of marijuana, then do it on the up-and-up and stop this lying, scheming pack of BS. Sell the fact that smoking marijuana is 10 times less damaging than drinking alcohol. Sell the fact that the legalalized sale of marijuana keeps people away from sellers pushing far nastier drugs.

loveroflarry 4 years, 2 months ago

While I have seen research on the last half of your post, I haven't seen it on the first half. Does this problem exist in CA, probably (particularly in specific communities in CA), but other states have implemented reforms to overcome this issue. California is only one state.

mbulicz 4 years, 2 months ago

Lupus and MS aren't exactly easy to fake.

I see where you're coming from, but you have to understand that there are two kinds of people who are after cannabis, recreational users and medicinal users.

The argument is that we should, at the very least, let sick and dying people choose how to medicate their disease. Give those people their liberty and dignity to make the most of their last days.

Recreational users will have their day. All this bill is saying is that there are people with painful conditions who shouldn't be lumped in with the college kid watching Scooby Doo and eating Cheetos. That guy can wait on the debate. Dying people are in pain the longer we wait to give them more alternatives for medicating their disease.

pace 4 years, 2 months ago

There is always the danger doctors will go rogue and start prescribing prescriptions inappropriately. It has been part of history. Accountants embezzle, financiers scam, preachers have affairs with the choir members. , No profession is perfect, Medicine has a lot of checks. They won't be perfect. Your imagining of 90 percent of people will be feigning cancer and other illnesses is wrong. There will be plenty of people with real cancer. You should consider worrying about them and their families.

The ban of crop, industrial hemp is just bizarre.

I agree marijuana should be sold and controlled as alcohol and tobacco. For me that has little to do with the medical marijuana issue.

tbaker 4 years, 2 months ago

I'm all for it. De-criminalizing marijuana should be the first step. Tax payers should not be stuck paying for prison time for pot heads. The war on drugs is an abject failure as it is, but our society simply isn't ready to turn the US into Holland when it comes to drugs.

Stuart Evans 4 years, 2 months ago

actually, decriminalization is exactly what Holland has done. it's still illegal to grow, and traffic marijuana. it's just not illegal to possess or sell small quantities. In Holland, the use of not only marijuana, but also other illicit drugs is far lower than that of the United States. It's the decriminalization that makes it not so risky and exciting. But in the US, we have the major problem of trafficking and the war to try and stop it. We need to fully legalize all use of marijuana to end the border war down south, and ebb the flow of billions annually into the hands of the mafia and Central American dictators, not to mention the pocket lining of many American bureaucrats.

ralphralph 4 years, 2 months ago

The "medical" part is a sham. How 'bout some honesty? If you're going to legalize it, then just legalize it. Let people make, and live with, their own decisions. We've never really gotten to that point with The Demon Rum, though, have we.

halfnhalf 4 years, 2 months ago

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jessanddaron 4 years, 2 months ago

I hope you talk to rep's. I'm sure most of them will do anything to get out of your "arena" the same as they would if being bombarded by Fred Phelp's family. It might actually make them see the sanity through your insanity...?

bad_dog 4 years, 2 months ago

"I did not and learned..."

Apparently not soon enough to prevent permanent damage, eh? Now you just seem to want to lash out with exclamation point laden posts at anyone with a different experience or perspective than yours. The fact you profess to no longer have friends isn't too surprising given your obvious resentment toward others.

Feel free to contact whomever you want as frequently as you please. I doubt your input will sway anyone, but hey, it's your right to put your worst foot forward.

bad_dog 4 years, 2 months ago

Above directed to northtown. Their post was apparently TOSed...

ResQd 4 years, 2 months ago

Oh fer goodness sakes, those of us who were back in the 70's 80's and before remember smoking it. I wouldn't want my airplane pilot smoking it, but it would have helped my sister with Stage 4 cancer handle her illness a little better. It would have given her "the munchies", to keep her from riddling down to 74 lbs and given her some peace of mind for awhile longer. It would not have cured her, however, it would have helped her till the end. It definitely could be used in some cases.

jessanddaron 4 years, 2 months ago

ResQd hit it on the head. No one is advocating your police force showing up to work under the influence of THC. The argument is that IN CERTAIN CASES this can be helpful.

bad_dog, It is sure easy to get your comments deleted when you post like that...

yancylane 4 years, 2 months ago

much of the dialogue from the detractors holds very little water even when posting online with no point-counterpoint discussion which would force you to think on your feet instead of letting your incompetent views ferment a feasible response in your head that you believe is the same opinion as jesus and his good buddy g.w. bush. you are the same generation that is unable to let go of how you saw the counter culture movement of the sixties and seventies and therefor it hinders your ability to see progression for what it truly is. far be it from anyone of us to say what works for the next man but all i know is that medicinal quality bud was able to help one of my loved ones transition from oxycontin, hydromorphone, lyrica AND hydrocodone after undergoing reconstructive foot surgery on both feet simultaneously. that said i do believe we need to keep a close eye on programs of this nature to ensure ethical integrity - forget what you think about MORAL integrity because that does not apply when speaking on the behalf of people with medical issues. "its immoral to legalize pot and all its going to do is empower stoners to recruit new stoners and they can all meet at mcdonalds." i would have to firmly say its immoral to deny someone an avenue to comfort and normal function in their own life because of your outdated opinion of the substance. i recently had a friend overdose on dilaudid (hydromorpohone) and i will never get to see him again. please do your best research and come up with a single person who's death was attributed to the use of marijuana or any of its derivatives, please. if all you have to offer is a diluted and vague opinion of this issue based upon nothing in particular then you should not voice anything on your mind because these types of discussions are meant for those with proper grammar coupled with intellectual landscapes capable of seeing the world beyond the keyhole that YOU gaze through. the beauty of science and widely accepted medical information is that the facts are still facts whether you believe it or not and i say to you that if you are unable to keep up with the current theater of mind required to function in this global society then stay in b.f.e kansas and keep quiet, you only solidify your ignorance. old man (NORTHTOWN) we are in different worlds and you need to get with it or stand to the side.

KS420 4 years, 2 months ago

High!...But Brownbck just rcvd the honor of having a beer named after him....may he will light en up and consider the cause!

MyName 4 years, 2 months ago

We still have dry counties in this state. Somehow I think Medical MJ is going nowhere.

akt2 4 years, 2 months ago

It should at least be an option for patients with chronic pain and terminal disease. If it could help a cancer patient want to eat, they might not die of malnutrition. If it could help ease the pain of someone who lives on Fentanyl patches or Oxycontin, it might help with their quality of life. There are very sick people who cannot be cured. The pharmaceutical companies make a fortune off of them. It is time for a more simple treatment when possible.

Kontum1972 4 years, 2 months ago

my big toe hurts...roll me up 1 Dweezil

lizardbeth 3 years, 9 months ago

Seriously? I hope you never have to go through chemotherapy. You wouldn't be so blasé.

Clark Coan 4 years, 2 months ago

Cannabis is not effective for pain control and has too many side effects to be legalized.

mbulicz 4 years, 2 months ago

You cite nothing to bolster your claim and don't even say what 'side effects' you refer to. Quit regurgitating your talking points and use the Google.

slowplay 4 years, 2 months ago

QT, You are a lier, a cheating adulterous piece of garbage. See how easy it is to make claims without evidence. I can do the same. Cannabis is effective for pain control and has few side effects.

PS. I'm sure this will get censored, although I mean no disrespect, just proving a point.

lizardbeth 3 years, 9 months ago

I hope for your sake, you never require it for pain or nausea control. If you are speaking out your *, then you should just keep your mouth shut.

Katara 4 years, 2 months ago

I think this is a much better way to repopulate the rural areas than forgiving small amounts of student loans and a break on state income tax.

Richard Heckler 4 years, 2 months ago

Time to put people back to work no matter what!

Time to legalize hemp for a farming cash crop instead of importing hemp. Clothes,flooring and maybe energy generation in place of corn.

lizardbeth 3 years, 9 months ago

I'm currently going through chemo for breast cancer. I only have 12 weeks of it but I know others with BC that have the 12 weeks and than another 8 or even more chemos to get through. Since my first chemo session, nine days ago, I have lost 13 pounds. I've finally found something my stomach will let me eat, applesauce first thing every morning, and then cottage cheese for lunch. Either or both of these meals may include a banana. Dinner is up in the air.

On day 3 after chemo the nausea was out of control. I was getting sick and losing all body fluids and had to go back to the hospital for a saline/sugar drip.

My point is, for God's sake, we're not asking that you legalize marajuana, only MEDICAL marajuana. Help me eat something or there will be nothing left before my chemo is completed. As if the double mastectomy wasn't painful enough, I'm double slapped with nausea that doesn't have to exist. The three pills for something like $500 Emmend anti nausea pills nor any of the others I've used have helped much. Please, please, legalize medical marajuana, if not in time for me, then for the next person in pain.

ifoundit1 3 years, 1 month ago

THE FIVE MAIN REASONS ,QUESTIONS ,AND ANSWERS -US THE PEOPLE - THINK MEDICAL MARIJUANA SHOULD BE LEGALIZED IN KANSAS

1.Lower crime rates in Kansas ... Who are you Getting it from? The people actually in physical need wouldn't have to go through Shady people to get there medicine keeping them from being exposed to unpleasant situations and other substances that should be and are condemned to be illegal.

2.Good for the economy... How much are we willing to pay? It would bring much needed tax dollars to Kansas and create many jobs. Also by legalizing Medical Marijuana less people would get arrested. that means overcrowded prisons and jails are less packed costing less money to house Quote "Criminals" unquote " who cant afford to pay extensive court fines due to our struggling economy.

3.Less money leaving our country. How do we know who we are funding? not all Marijuana is grown in the USA. Marijuana is grown all over the globe. By buying marijuana illegally you could be funding a Foreign agency . Possibly but unlikely even terrorists / Gang Members

  1. Better for -us the people-. Do you know what the Food and Drug Administration is allowing pharmaceutical companies to put into our bodies? Marijuana in its natural unaltered state is safer for people than almost any other drug on the market. People die from faulty drugs and drug overdoses every day. You cannot overdose on marijuana.

  2. It would end the long dead WAR on drugs. What war is our government fighting? A civil war. a war on -us the people- who created the entity known as the United states government.

Remember the government dose not create the people... -Us the people- create the government. What are you afraid of? The united states government keeps us in a state of fear to control us and to keep us quiet because they fear us. And to fear what the government could possibly do to -us the people- who created it is to give it the power that -we the people- had all along.

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