Archive for Tuesday, February 15, 2011

Kansas House committee considering bill that would impose statewide restrictions on adult stores

February 15, 2011


— Kansas residents who want to stop lap dances in strip clubs and keep stores selling adult videos and sex toys from proliferating launched a new effort Monday to persuade lawmakers to impose statewide restrictions on sexually oriented businesses.

The House Federal and State Affairs Committee began hearings on a bill to enact a “Community Defense Act,” and it’s expected to debate the measure within a week.

The bill would prevent new sexually oriented businesses within 1,000 feet of an existing sexually oriented business or school, library, day care center or house of worship. The measure would ban alcohol in strip clubs, require semi-nude dancers to keep at least 6 feet away from club patrons and impose a “no touch” rule for employees and customers at sexually oriented businesses.

Sexually oriented businesses would be required to stay closed from midnight to 6 a.m., and no employee could intentionally appear “in a state of nudity.”

“Our sense of safety, wholesomeness and innocence is evaporating,” said Phillip Cosby, executive director of the Kansas City-area office of the National Coalition for the Protection of Children and Families. “Something has changed in our culture. It is the sexualization of that culture.”

Cosby, a retired Army master sergeant from Overland Park who’s become a leading Kansas advocate of new restrictions on sexually oriented businesses, said there’s ample evidence that sexually oriented businesses breed crime and lower property values, especially when they’re clustered together.

Last year, such arguments led the House to approve a similar measure. But in the Senate, where some members complained that they didn’t have enough to time to review it, the vote was 20-20.

Critics of such proposals believe strip clubs and adult stores are best regulated by cities and counties. Charles O’Hara, a Wichita attorney who represents two adult cabarets, said law enforcement agencies and government officials in his area have worked together on regulations that have prevented crime and other problems.

He also warned against the proposed ban on alcohol at strip clubs, saying the state has more control over businesses that sell alcohol — and more power to intervene when there are problems. A ban also will put clubs out of business, he said.

“If this passes, they can’t function,” he said. “Most of these people own their own businesses. They actually own — they’ve bought land and everything like that.”

Two committee members, freshman Republican Reps. Amanda Grosserode, of Lenexa, and John Rubin, of Shawnee, wondered whether imposing state restrictions would drive sexually oriented businesses underground.

“If this industry is driven underground, it becomes harder to regulate,” said Rubin, an attorney and retired federal administrative judge.

But Scott Bergthold, a Chattanooga, Tenn., attorney who’s successfully defended a similar Missouri law, said small communities often don’t have the financial resources for lawsuits from the adult entertainment industry if it fights restrictions. Also, he said, if one community imposes tough restrictions, sexually oriented businesses can proliferate in another community nearby.

He called the Kansas proposal “a well-thought out and well-reasoned set of regulations.”

“It’s much more efficient and much more effective to have them done at the state level,” Bergthold said. “It especially protects the smaller, under-funded local governments.”


Paul R Getto 6 years, 11 months ago

I am so relieved to see these 'conservative' "get the government off our backs and out of our lives" types working so hard on their nanny state. Porn consumption is equal to, or greater in the red states than in the blues. What is worrying these folks other than the old Victorian fear that somewhere, someplace, someone may be having a good time? Give it up folks and worry about the budget.

SnakeFist 6 years, 11 months ago

That's the hypocrisy of conservatism: Government shouldn't be concerned with ensuring that everyone has access to healthcare, but it should be concerned with regulating what consenting adults do inside a private business. I'd love to hear a conservative explain that logic.

Peacemaker452 6 years, 11 months ago

How about smoking inside that private business? That ban seemed to get a lot of support on these pages.

Shardwurm 6 years, 11 months ago

I'm a conservative and I think this is absurd.

This is about legislating morality by a group of religious zealots who perhaps call themselves conservatives.

I don't believe for one minute that every liberal believes in abortion and I wouldn't generalize like that. Why are you doing it?

Steve Bunch 6 years, 11 months ago

You mean I won't be able to carry my concealed weapon into a porn shop anymore?

bad_dog 6 years, 11 months ago

It would seem that a consumer with a "porno addiction" is more likely to "suffer a loss" IN a strip club rather than in their absence. Those places can practically vacuum cash out of a visitor's pockets-much like the casinos.

If a person has an addiction to porn, there are numerous places to access it other than in person.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

"If a person has an addiction to porn, there are numerous places to access it other than in person."

For now. These right wing religious fanatics will not stop at strip clubs, however.

deec 6 years, 11 months ago

Which little towns are having such a hard time controlling their adult services industry? The nearest strip club to Hays is 90 miles away in Salina.

coderob 6 years, 11 months ago

Wait, are you saying the Chuckwagon closed down!?!?!?

average 6 years, 11 months ago

Still one in Great Bend last I looked. Half-hour closer than Salina, but probably worth the longer drive not to go there.

deec 6 years, 11 months ago

My mistake. I was basing my post onn what the young guys I worked with in Hays said.

RaynRavyn 6 years, 11 months ago

:) I have no idea what might be going on out that way, lol, but right now, pretty much the whole county is going nuts about someone wanting to open a strip club essentially next door to the middle school.

coderob 6 years, 11 months ago

Yeah, I think it's a little narcissistic to think you're going to stop an offshoot of the world's oldest profession in its tracks like that.

akhmatova 6 years, 11 months ago

Where are conservatives' cry against big government and over-regulation now? These laws would drive private businesses underground and out of business.

Stuart Evans 6 years, 11 months ago

why are religious nuts so scared of a nude body?

sr80 6 years, 11 months ago

because their wives are 400LBS of blubber and he doesn't want to look at her nude body so why should you be allowed to look at any other,its all the same to them

sr80 6 years, 11 months ago

because their wives are 400LBS of blubber and he doesn't want to look at her nude body so why should you be allowed to look at any other,its all the same to them

deec 6 years, 11 months ago

Did they go on a "fact-finding" mission to the clubs? I f they did, wonder how the dancers made out?

riverdrifter 6 years, 11 months ago

Conservatives have never learned that "you can't legislate morality".

Peacemaker452 6 years, 11 months ago

Agreed, but: Liberals have never learned that “you can’t legislate charity”.

SnakeFist 6 years, 11 months ago

And in other news...The Kansas Senate is considering allowing grocery stores to sell full strength wine and beer and hard liquor. How is that consistent with regulating adult stores - its morally permissible to get drunk but not to see a naked body?

deec 6 years, 11 months ago

You can do both, but not at the same time. Unless you can convince the old lady to disrobe. Or you have the internet. Was this law a response to "Porn Sunday?" :)

bad_dog 6 years, 11 months ago

" employee could intentionally appear “in a state of nudity.” I swear it was an accident your Honor! It was, it was, uh, a wardrobe malfunction. Yeah, that's the ticket...

lawrencenerd 6 years, 11 months ago

Great way to get people spending their money in other states. Not like we need to care about our economy here. I can just order sex toys and porn from another state that likes taxing my dollars.

coderob 6 years, 11 months ago

“Something has changed in our culture. It is the sexualization of that culture.” Phiilip Cosby

We were already sexualized from the very beginning. Closing down a few strip clubs isn't going to change that.

jhawkinsf 6 years, 11 months ago

I could not care less if an adult wants to go to a strip club or any other sexually oriented place of business. However, keeping those businesses away from schools and other places where children are likely to be seems like a reasonable compromise. As an adult, I can choose to avoid places I find objectionable, children should be shielded from these types of businesses.

oldbaldguy 6 years, 11 months ago

Here we go again. There should be requirments about strip joints next to schools and churches and in residential areas, but we will always have these things. The legislature is making a good argument that they should only meet every other year like Nebraska.

Mike Ford 6 years, 11 months ago

hey chuckleheads first amendment unless you live in the sovereign republic of churchistan and dumbistan also known as western kansas.

jhawkinsf 6 years, 11 months ago

No one, conservative or liberal wants a strip club, homeless shelter or any other public nuisance near their homes or their children. It's not about what side of the political isle you're on, it's just human nature. That said, where do we place those businesses and what reasonable restrictions can we as a society tolerate. Conservatives lean this way while liberals lean another way. I've yet to see a single liberal or conservative say "build that homeless shelter, strip club, abortion clinic nuke plant next door to my child's school or park". The key word is reasonable.

Scott Drummond 6 years, 11 months ago

And when the NIMBY attitude drives such businesses to low rent and abandoned areas, the American Taliban trot out the argument that they attract crime.

Place restrictions on what sorts of outdoor advertising they can do at the establishment and then I say put them next door to churches. The hours of operation seem to match pretty well and the heterosexual vibe might rub off on a few Catholic priests.

jhawkinsf 6 years, 11 months ago

Your response seems to be more focused on the religious angle while my original post was more focused on children. Next to a church bothers me much less than next to a school.

jonas_opines 6 years, 11 months ago

I agree. Teenage boys should have to get their naked ladies the same way as we did, by shoplifting playboys from magazine racks.

John Reher 6 years, 11 months ago

Well, I was expecting this but here they go. Probably pass too. If they think this is going to have a positive effect on "community morality," they are even bigger idiots than I thought. Shut down the clubs and you'll only encourage more "off-premises" activity and it won't be bowling. Why can't any of these people just "leave us alone" to live our lives? They claim to be pro-freedom but then they do this. Bleeping bleeps!

Corey Williams 6 years, 11 months ago

So the Feds focus on abortion, and the state reps focus on porn...who's going to focus on creating jobs?

William Weissbeck 6 years, 11 months ago

This is more an more a non-issue due to something called the Internet. And why 1,000 feet from churches. Seems to me the closer they are to a church, the more likely the patron might suffer a guilt trip and just keep driving. Surely the idea should be that the sinner sees God, rather than the religious not see sin.

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