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Name recognition: Jayhawks get big name — Charlie Weis

Charlie Weis, formerly the offensive coordinator at Florida, gets off the Kansas University plane at the Lawrence Airport on Thursday night around 8:30 p.m. Weis has agreed to become the 37th football coach in KU history. KU will hold a press conference to introduce Weis on Friday.

Charlie Weis, formerly the offensive coordinator at Florida, gets off the Kansas University plane at the Lawrence Airport on Thursday night around 8:30 p.m. Weis has agreed to become the 37th football coach in KU history. KU will hold a press conference to introduce Weis on Friday.

December 9, 2011

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In announcing the hire of Charlie Weis as Kansas University’s newest head football coach Thursday afternoon, KU athletic director Sheahon Zenger steered the program into new territory.

The men hired to lead the Jayhawks during the past couple of decades were virtual unknowns.

When Glen Mason was hired before the 1988 season, he was a mid-major coach on the rise. When it was time to replace him before the 1997 season, the Jayhawks turned to Div. I-AA star Terry Allen.

After Allen was fired in 2001, KU turned to an assistant coach at Oklahoma named Mark Mangino.

And, two years ago, after Mangino resigned under pressure after eight seasons, KU replaced him with Turner Gill, a man known more for his playing days than his coaching résumé.

After all that, KU finally appears to have handed the keys over to a man known simply for being a coach.

“At the end of the day, it was time for the University of Kansas to go out and give its football program its best shot,” Zenger told the Journal-World less than an hour after landing at the Lawrence airport with Weis and a handful of others on board the university plane.

Zenger, in his first year as athletic director at Kansas, said Weis was on his wish list from Day 1. Eleven days, numerous flights and countless hours of conversations later, Zenger struck a deal Thursday to make Weis KU’s 37th head football coach. The 55-year-old Weis officially will be introduced at a news conference at 5 p.m. today, but, in many ways, he’s a man who needs no introduction.

Weis brings to KU 16 years of experience as an NFL assistant coach and five years of experience on the college sidelines. During his time in the NFL, he was an offensive coordinator for nine seasons with three teams and helped lead the New York Giants (1991) and New England Patriots (2002, 2004 and 2005) to world titles.

“I’m surprisingly shocked,” said Jake Sharp, a former KU running back and native of Salina. “I feel like that’s a huge splash. Mr. Zenger got out there and obviously went to work for the university. And with him being a Western Kansas guy, I totally back him on everything he does. I think coach Weis’ credentials are tremendous, and I’m really excited to see what he’s going to do here at the University of Kansas.”

Although his days in the NFL — which included one season as the Kansas City Chiefs’ offensive coordinator in 2010 — are what Weis is best known for, his five-year stint as a college head coach was not without its own accolades. While leading Notre Dame to a 35-27 record in five seasons from 2005-09, Weis twice led the Irish to BCS bowl appearances and earned the Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year award in 2005 after a 9-3 season.

After being fired by Notre Dame following a disappointing 6-6 season in 2009, Weis joined Todd Haley’s staff in Kansas City and helped lead the Chiefs to the AFC West Division title and a playoff appearance.

He left Kansas City to become the offensive coordinator at the University of Florida, citing a desire to spend more time with his family. His son, Charlie Jr., enrolled at UF and began a job with the football program to learn the ins and outs of the profession. One thing he learned from his dad’s latest move is that the draw of the head coach’s clipboard can be powerful.

Florida head coach Will Muschamp, who guided the Gators to a 6-6 record during his first season after serving as a Mack Brown assistant for three years at Texas, told the Associated Press on Thursday he often sensed Weis wanted another opportunity to lead his own program.

“There aren’t many opportunities you get to be a head coach,” Muschamp said. “I know Charlie. The last one didn’t end the way he wanted it to.”

Muschamp said he and Weis discussed the Kansas opportunity during the past few days

“I asked him, ‘Is this something you’re really interested in doing?’” Muschamp told the AP. “He said, ‘Yeah, I want to talk to ’em. If I wasn’t interested, I would not talk.’ So I said, ‘I support you 100 percent if that’s what you want to do. I think that’s great.’ Now, when guys make parallel moves, I don’t necessarily agree with that. When guys can further their career, I think it’s great.”

Though rumors of Weis as a candidate for the Kansas job popped up Wednesday, many people still viewed it as a long shot. Since 1990, KU has recorded just seven winning seasons, and Mangino’s 50-48 record from 2002-09 made him the first KU coach to finish his career above .500 since Jack Mitchell went 44-42-5 from 1958-66.

Asked how he was able to attract a coach with Weis’ credentials to a program like Kansas, Zenger referred to the concept that kicked the search off in the first place: Weis and Kansas simply seemed to be the right fit for each other.

“It was mutual,” Zenger said. “For him and for us, the stars aligned.”

Details of Weis’ contract with KU were not available Thursday night. After being fired by Notre Dame, six years before his extended contract was set to expire, Weis received a termination payment of $6.6 million. He is expected to continue receiving compensation from the school through the 2015 season.

Weis and his wife, Maura, have two children, Charlie Jr., and Hannah. Hannah, who turned 16 earlier this year, is afflicted with a rare seizure disorder that has affected her development. She’ll have special needs for life. Weis and his wife started a non-profit organization called Hannah and Friends, designed to help children and adults with special needs.

Weis is not without his own physical ailments. During the past few years, he tore ligaments in his left knee and broke his right knee when he was taken out on the sideline during a Notre Dame game in 2008. He had his right knee replaced after the 2008 season.

Weis’ arrival at KU has fans and alumni buzzing over the potential of this long-dormant football program that constantly operates in the shadows of the ultra-successful men’s basketball program on campus.

Two former Jayhawks now playing in the NFL said Thursday night that they were impressed by KU’s hiring of Weis.

“It’s a new coach, it’s a new opportunity, and there’s always hope,” San Diego Chargers safety Darrell Stuckey said. “I’m forever a Jayhawk, so I’m always going to believe in the Jayhawks. I think it’s obviously going to excite the fans. He’s definitely a guy that’s known, and I think he’s a guy that has something to prove.”

Added Denver Broncos cornerback Chris Harris: “If I was a player there, I’d be very excited. He’s definitely going to bring in some players. Seeing KU do well is important to all the former players because we still follow the team and we want them to do well. I definitely feel like Charlie Weis can be the guy to get the job done. He’s had experience at the top programs and I think he can definitely come in and get us back on track.”

Comments

cuzicare 3 years, 8 months ago

I just don't get these football coaches. Gill played great, looks like a stud, acts like a man, and loses. Mangino looks like a walking heart attack, acts like a bully, and wins (but gets fired for bullying?). Now we get Weis, who also looks like a walking heart attack. What's he gonna do to/for our football team? I haven't followed Weiss and don't know much about him, but I hope Zenger has picked a man (not a bully) who can win for KU. If he turns out to be a winning bully, I'd rather lose. But seriously, do winning coaches have to look so sloppy?

jesse499 3 years, 8 months ago

Football is a game where you hit people and people hit back you'd better be in that frame of mind are go play something else if your going to win maybe chess.

jesse499 3 years, 8 months ago

By the way have you watched Bill Self on the side line when things aren't going right just because you yelling doesn't mean your a bully

jesse499 3 years, 8 months ago

Also if looking sloppy means you can't do the job about half the Profs are in deep s

George_Braziller 3 years, 8 months ago

He's only 55? Yikes! From the picture I would have guessed mid-60s.

Bob Reinsch 3 years, 8 months ago

On one of the KU fan boards, a gentleman that follows KU basketball, but runs a top ND recruiting board wrote a detailed note about his experience with Coach Weis. It was very insightful, and quite complimentary. Dr. Zenger once described how Snyder won at KSU - very simply, Coach Snyder and his staff worked harder than everybody else. I think we have a coach in Charlie Weis that will follow that same philosophy. I'm optimistic.

Randy Bombardier 3 years, 8 months ago

Maybe hard work goes a long way, but some times there are elements that are counter-productive. If he does not work well with others, is not a defensive guru, is not committed to the long haul, we are digging a deeper hole.

Randy Bombardier 3 years, 8 months ago

He may have nuts, but they are small ones. Why not Fulmer? How about Swtizer? How about Jimmy Johnson? Marty Shottenheimer or one of the other more successful KC Chiefs coach?

coolhawk 3 years, 8 months ago

If he can win football games and represent the university well, I don't care if he looks like Jabba the Hut! Get over it. Don't worry, be happy we got a coach with alot of junk in the trunk! Get that weight going in the right direction and it's a steam roller baby! Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

CreatureComforts 3 years, 8 months ago

I agree! But I also think he looks more like Pizza the Hut.

somedude20 3 years, 8 months ago

hope he does not get locked in the back of a limo

Gerry Butler 3 years, 8 months ago

i agree 100% cool hawk. i just don't get it. why are some of the so called fans worried about what he looks like? just like mark uh ya sure i worry about his ownhealt just like i did our former coah mark. but what he looks like doesn't produce the wins i could give A RATS ASS what he looks like i am very excited. i think it was a very good hire. surprised? damm right i am. and i am sure he will bring quality assistants in also we are not out looking for MR ATLAS 2011 we needed a coach and thats whatwe got. i will say also too that the ties he has in certain states in recruiting may be very beneficial. GO HAWKS

irvan moore 3 years, 8 months ago

i like the hire, gonna be good for the progrsam but gonna have to lose the bracelet with the nike swoosh

pocorio 3 years, 8 months ago

Thank goodness it is finally basketball season. I think Weis will be an improvement over Gill, but not much of one. But I imagime this is the best KU could expect under the circumstances. On the other hand, KU should have dismissed Grey- Little and brought the Fat Man back.

stevieboy 3 years, 8 months ago

This was a last minute hire and nothing else. weis won't be here in 2 years and we will go thru this all over again.4 jobs in 2 years ? Personality of a damp dish rag...if you actually takke a few minutes and research this guy you will see why fans and benefactors grow tired of him..

canusayduh 3 years, 8 months ago

And except for ND, he's not stayed anywhere longer than 2-3 years, since the early '90's. Good luck guys, but don't hold your breath.

blindrabbit 3 years, 8 months ago

pocorio: Your "Thank goodness it is finally basketball season" is part of the problem about KU football. KU sports fans are happy to have a BB program that dominates and to the detriment of football. I've attended games in both sports at KU since the 1950's. A good part of the problem relates to the fans apathey, ignorance and fickleness about the game of football and their willingness to get a "win fix" in Allen. Maybe we will finally get the message; KU certaintly found out that the rest of the nation is more fixated on the oblong ball.

pocorio 3 years, 8 months ago

I am a 47 year alum and much of what you say is correct. However, except for several short periods KU football has been something close to an embarrassment for all of those years, with a constent turnover of football coaches. It is very difficult to build a solid fan base under those conditions.

CHEEZIT 3 years, 8 months ago

The only reason OSU beat Duke by 20 is that Duke doesn't have the athletic players! It won't be as bad as you think! It is in Allen!!!

johnwoods 3 years, 8 months ago

How is KU BB winning a detriment to KU Football? How is the fan's apathy related to the football team winning? The fans don't play. You can have successful football and basketball programs at the same time.

rtwngr 3 years, 8 months ago

Surprisingly shocked or shockingly surprised, Jake? Good interview. Thanks for playing, next.

dinglesmith 3 years, 8 months ago

This is an excellent hire. His "failure" at Notre Dame would have made him the winningest coach in KU history. The guy walks into a recruits house wearing Super Bowl and BCS Bowl rings, having been the offensive coordinator for arguably the top QB in the NFL. For him personally, he brings a special needs child to a University with the top rated special education program in the US. Nicely done Zenger. Very nicely done.

drillsgt 3 years, 8 months ago

Again..this is all sounding like when KU first hired Bill Self.....remember that..Charlie is the best hire..when he was at ND..he had some tuff teams to play against...KU could not compete with the teams he had to get ready for...if you want to beat some of the teams that always pound KU..he is the man with ability to make it happen..even if the current players aren't that skilled..and he can change the attitude of the players because the last few games showed that they have givin up..so let him change the program..but the fans dont know how to react to this guy cause he has been on a totally different level of football and ku fans have never been close too.his level...so let him do work....

Sayers44 3 years, 8 months ago

Weis needs hip surgery --that will hurt getting organized and recruiting.

Too bad he is not healthy but that happens when you do not take care fo yourself.

At the end of the day "Name recognition" does not win games.

It takes hard work and recruiting.

If you are not healthy (HIP) then it is going to be very hard to turn the program around.

newmedia 3 years, 8 months ago

Best of luck coach Weis. Better bring in the framers next week to get started as the last tenant burned the Jayhawk football house clear to the ground. Rock Chalk!

maysdens 3 years, 8 months ago

Charlie is a great recruiter, game day coach and will attract talent to the KU program. I hope he surrounds himself with some talented assistant coaches. I understand one of the issues at Notre Dame was the quality of the assistant coaches who supported him. Its a great move by Zenger.

Rich Noever 3 years, 8 months ago

I am happy with this hire, but to say he is a great recruiter, where is the proof of that?

Armen Kurdian 3 years, 8 months ago

KU will win the BCS title next year. You just mark my words. Bookmark this web page. I'm calling it right here. I'm absolutely right, so no one should bother arguing with me. Just all of you, sit there and marvel at my insight for a few minutes, you'll feel a warm glow.

jaywalker 3 years, 8 months ago

Phenomenal hire. Makes Kansas football relative immediately and has the whole country talking. The WHOLE country talking! About Kansas football!!! He's gonna get a helluva welcome Saturday at halftime of the OSU game, bank on it!

Jack McEnaney 3 years, 8 months ago

Ku now has the smartest man on its sideline every week they play. Didn't this guy get a perfect score on his sat? Then graduate from notre dame. He learned how to coach from bill parcells and bill belichick!

My favorite belichick interview is when he was asked about what changed between the browns coaching job and the patriots. He said it was like going to high school, struggling, and then getting to learn what u struggled with for a few years then going to take the classes again. Weis has learned and will make the adjustments.

The offense is going to be sweet. Plus we compete in the big 12 which means no one gives a crap about d. We need charlie to get a good hire for d coordinator.

Mandie Eutsler 3 years, 8 months ago

I'm a little surprised about the negativity. I like the hire and wish him the best. My family loves going to KU football games. We are excited about next season and are hoping for some success. Rock Chalk!!!

Randy Bombardier 3 years, 8 months ago

OMG, are you a yell leader? Former yell leader? Nothing like hope in the face of all improbability.

rgh 3 years, 8 months ago

How did Zenger pull this off? Great job! He will be able to bring in big time assistants and attract the top players not only in the area that Bill Snyder was stealing but across the nation. I was a proponent of giving Gill one more year, but Zenger must have know something. This will indeed be a new exciting time for KU football. Bye, Bye Mizzou!! Enjoy the bottom of the SEC.

thepianoman 3 years, 8 months ago

Rock Chalk baby! I say we take this new coach out and hit up the buffett at the Habitachi Grill over by Jason's Deli! Oh ya! We'll give this new coach a true Kansas welcome!

frenchie360 3 years, 8 months ago

What a poorly wriiten piece. He has been hired many times to coach at professional level (not to mention coach ND that has HUGE tradition) but not good enough for KU? Please get some football knowledge if you are going to write a article about someone or the sport in general.

Armen Kurdian 3 years, 8 months ago

Mangino could eat Weis for breakfast and have TG as a dessert.

Jim Williamson 3 years, 8 months ago

I am amazed at how many people don't know anything about him. He's one of the top offensive minds in football today.

"He's got no personality -- boy, I wish Mangino would come back." Ever talk to the guy? If you did, you wouldn't say that.

If he and Dr. Z can land a legit D-coordinator so Weis can focus on his strong suit, which is coaching offense, KU is going to be better consistently than they have been in decades.

And folks who say he'll leave at the first sign of a better job -- well, if you'd ask around, you'd know that while you never say never, that's not really a concern for Dr. Z and KU. If he wins, everyone, including him, will be happy in Lawrence, KS.

XEPCT 3 years, 8 months ago

wow, I'm shocked, well done Dr. Z. Well done sir.

Randy Bombardier 3 years, 8 months ago

How so? What exactly is impressive about this hire?

Fred Whitehead Jr. 3 years, 8 months ago

"Eleven days, numerous flights and countless hours of conversations later, Zenger struck a deal Thursday to make Weis KU’s 37th head football coach. " Sounds like this guy was not too keen on Kansas, maybe he was awere of the emphasis onthe KU Basketball Academy for the NBA.

woodscolt 3 years, 8 months ago

1)KU arguably plays a tougher schedule than Notre Dame. Given 2)Notre Dame is a football school with as much money as God (at least) and a much easier place to recruit top football players. 3) Charlie boy couldn't manage any more than a miserable tenure there, I'd say this hire is a bust. . The teams will be more competitive but........

If your happy with 500 teams at best and and an invite to the mosquito bowl, We got one Hum Zenger of a coach.

This will mark the beginning of the end for Zenger.

3crookedhearts 3 years, 8 months ago

Who's a better candidate? Seriously. Tell me who's a better candidate and I'll tell you you're wrong.

To your points:

1.) There's no arguing that KU has played a tougher schedule than Notre Dame did this season. No question. But Weis didn't coach Notre Dame this season so we can't speak to that. Going off of Weis's last two years at Notre Dame (when they went 13-12 and won a Bowl Game), their schedule was on average 46 spots more difficult on the power rankings chart than KU's.

2.) Yes Notre Dame has a lot of money, but I'd argue that they are SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult to recruit to, mostly because of their incredibly high academnic standards. Approximately 70% of the top 100 football athletes are NOT ACADEMICALLY ELIGIBLE to play there.

3.) The easiest to dismiss. Weis was 8 games over .500 during his 5 years there and too them to 2 BCS Bowls and a win in another Bowl. For us to remotely have that kind of success (which I think we will) would be extraordinary.

Randy Bombardier 3 years, 8 months ago

You are kidding, right? Okay, How about Mike Leach. What was wrong with that?

Next, how about a Phil Fulmer who reportedly came to us, who wanted us. That is a 152-52 record in the SEC.

What about a Jim Leavitt? How about Nolan Cromwell? Glen Mason, Fedora, Malzahn, June Jones and the young Doer? That are all kinds of names out there that would take this job. Now tell me why I am wrong and I will argue with you, mister.

woodscolt 3 years, 8 months ago

"But Weis didn't coach Notre Dame this season so we can't speak to that."

Next thing your going to tell me is that he didn't coach the chiefs this year. Thanks a million for clearing that up or me. I'm well aware of where he has and is coaching. Secondly, My reference to strength of schedule was in general and included the past several years as well as coming years. Not moving to fast for you am I ? As for recruiting, its a hard sell to get kids that are five star or even three or four star to want to come to KU. Notre Dame carries a lot more prestige than Kansas football and for that reason alone would make it easier to recruit the quality players their. He didn't recruit or coach well enough and was fired for that. He has less weapons to recruit with here than Notre Dame and plays a tougher schedule. That forumula will get you 500 teams at best and a bowl game maybe once if your lucky. As for who else could we get. Well, the way Mangino was handled and the shape the program is in now, who would want to trash their reputation and come coach KU. Well, I guess it would be someone who would think, hey, that two years and 10 mill the last guy got would look like a pretty good retirement stipend. Talk to me in a couple years and tell my why things haven't worked out so well. I sure you will have plenty of excuses. No, you will probably be screaming for charlie's scalp.

Randy Bombardier 3 years, 8 months ago

I am with you, man. Beginning of the end for Zenger. KU is not becomming the career killer for coaches yet, but it may be turning that way for ADs if Weiss does not prove to be a stable and successful hire.

520dude 3 years, 8 months ago

Is he not doing anymore Mike and Molly shows?

ack 3 years, 8 months ago

Welcome CW! I hope you have a long and great coaching experience at Kansas! Rock Chalk Jayhawk KU!

Steve Sharp 3 years, 8 months ago

At Kansas a coach that manages a 500 winning percentage is held in high esteem. I don't think he'll have a problem managing that. If he can give us 5 years like Larry Brown and bring Kansas back to respectability that would be great. What's wrong with 500? I'm sure most KU fans would take any bowl, the mosquito bowl included. On another note, Mangino has to have 75 pounds on him.

Randy Bombardier 3 years, 8 months ago

Nothing wrong with .500 overall. That is where we are as a program. When you get a name like Weiss and experience like this, aren't you saying you expect more? And if you are expecting more, why is this the man to take us there. Sorry, I do not see the evidence.

Fact 1. We are woeful on defense. Weiss, as stated by Ivan Maisal, has no defensive expertise and he had multiple DCs in his short time in South Bend.

Fact 2. He has had two consecutive one-year stints. How is this going to bring stability?

Fact 3. He is reported to have, note that I said this, "reported to have" relationship problems with his assistants and also report to have an ego. How is he going to build a team around this? In the NFL money is the glue that holds it all together. Sorry, you don't have that here and because that is absent Weiss is a fish out of water. Look at ND and Florida. His college experience is summed up in the word, "Underachiever,"

I acknowledge he could be good, maybe great in the NFL, but he is a terrible fit for KU. Mark my words. This is a disaster. If you think differently, tell me why. Give me counter points. What specifically makes you think he is a good fit and will be successful?????

beaujackson 3 years, 8 months ago

KU will start winning when they pay the players a "living wage".

rockchalker52 3 years, 8 months ago

Talk to me, boys & girls. We got us a coach now, but my speculation jones is still all itchy. Who's gonna be the OC? Will Charlie do it himself? Who are the likely coordinators out there? I've heard said Leavitt for DC, does that work out with the niners still in it? Who does Charlie like to work with, do ya s'pose? RCJH

Randy Bombardier 3 years, 8 months ago

I will talk to you. So, why do you say we have a coach now? What exactly gives you reason to be optimistic?

Jack McEnaney 3 years, 8 months ago

Watch this video. Sounds a little different from Turner Gil doesn't it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8TsVm...

kef104 3 years, 8 months ago

Thanks for posting this link. I admire that he took responsibility and he came across sincere. TG always left me feeling like he was simply trying to blow smoke and deny reality. This video gives me more hope for CW to be successful here. If he is successful, I hope he finds Lawrence a nice enough community to raise his daughter and stick around. Larry Brown was a bit of a vagabond and he hung for 5 years. He also has said he regrets ever leaving here. There is hope for KU football. I am officially on the CW bandwagon.

catchagrenade 3 years, 8 months ago

Count me in the CW bandwagon. Welcome to Lawrence, Mr. W.

Thank you for this excellent work, Dr. Z!

Brad Watson 3 years, 8 months ago

where do i buy my tickets?....great great hire....no more no names like ..thank you ku ath dept

uplock 3 years, 8 months ago

I can't understand why anyone would want to coach at KU, you are the most negative fans in the country. I can't believe how arrogant and insolant you are., you hire a new coach and all you can do is talk about what you think is wrong with him. I think you should try to get to know him. I think everyone in the country should read your comments and see what jurks you really are!

number1jayhawker 3 years, 8 months ago

A lot of the negative posts on here are by people that do their best to ridicule and downgrade who ever the article is about or the writer himself. They don't speak for us true JAYHAWK fans.

yourworstnightmare 3 years, 8 months ago

Weis simply hasn't been that successful, at least not in college. An overall losing record at Notre Dame, worse than Ty Willingham and Bob Davie. A terrible offense this year at Florida, worse than KU's.

I think Zenger hired Weis for the wrong reasons. He may turn out to be good, but Zenger clearly hired Weis because of name recognition, and not because of success in college football coaching.

Weis also has a recent history of moving every year. We'll see how long he stays in Kansas.

Right now, I am extremely skeptical about this hire. It was a bit desperate.

Kyle Reed 3 years, 8 months ago

"An overall losing record at Notre Dame"

Wrong. He was 35-27 at ND with 3 bowl trips in 5 years.

yourworstnightmare 3 years, 8 months ago

I stand corrected. He had a 56% win rate. At Notre Dame. With Brady Quinn. With one of the best recruiting advantages in the country. His best two years, his first two, were with Ty Willingham's players.

Kyle Reed 3 years, 8 months ago

Your point? In case you hadn't noticed the expectations are much different at KU than at Notre Dame. That performance here would be a success.

Randy Bombardier 3 years, 8 months ago

Is anyone readying the blogs on ESPN? Hate to break it to you but the vast majority of people who follow college football do not see this as a home run by any means. Almost everyone sees this as curious (that's being nice). It may prove to be a fit, but only time will tell.

RockinChalkinLA 3 years, 8 months ago

Weis will take this football program and build it from the ground up. That is what made it attractive to him. Zenger showed him all the money already put into the football program the last 5 years and promised more to come when he built a winning program.

Will he succeed? I have no idea. BUT. He has been and contributed in winning, seen what it takes. He also has made mistakes he wasn't afraid to acknowledge that hopefully he won't make again.

If he brings in a good staff, something that should be easy for him , we will be in good hands for the near future. Hopefully longer than that

Randy Bombardier 3 years, 8 months ago

Okay, Okay, I admit that I see one good thing about the hire. People who have had absolutely no interest in KU Football are now paying attention and already have opinions, although they sound like the yell team in some blog sweat job trying to build KU credibility.

kujhawkfan 3 years, 8 months ago

Funny how people keep stating Charlie Weis wasn't successful at Notre Dame and had a losing record. Weis actually had a winning record at Notre Dame 35-27, and led the Irish to two BCS Bowl games in 5 years. In those 5 years he had 3 top 10 recruiting classes with his best in 2008 which was rated number 2 in the country according to rivals.com. As for him being able to recruit to KU, there are a couple positives. For one, it is much easier to qualify recruits academically at Kansas than it is at Notre Dame. Notre Dame is very limited at who they can recruit and qualify academically which makes his recruiting classes even more impressive during his time there. As for how well you can recruit to KU, well that question was answered last year with KU having the 6th best recruiting class in the Big 12 with a coach who couldn't beat North Dakota State the previous season. People need to realize that Kansas State has the worst recruiting classes in the Big 12 the last two years and Iowa State has been second worst. Please quit referring to Kansas State as being better at recruiting! Kansas State is better at winning football games, because they have better coaching. Iowa State is the only team in America who has beaten Oklahoma State and are going to a bowl game this year because they have better coaching than Kansas! Recruiting can make a difference, but coaching is what wins games. Texas has the best recruiting classes in the Big 12 every year. However, they have lost 4 straight times to Kansas State because Kansas State has better coaching. Charlie Weis can coach and I'm confident will surround himself with a staff that can do the same, unlike what we have experienced that last two seasons. There is no doubt this program is headed in a better direction and people around the country will be watching Kansas Football next year. I am confident that every KU game will be on TV next year because of this hire. ROCK CHALK

Randy Bombardier 3 years, 8 months ago

KU may be headed in a better direction but it was hard not to. The important thing is that the Big12 is getting very, very competitive and this is the best we can do? We will be facing TCU and WVa soon, folks. You really think this hire is going to make us relevant in the conference? We are falling behind in a conference where everyone else is rapidly getting better except for us.

3 years, 8 months ago

You are "correct" that during Weis' five years at ND the overall wins exceeded losses. Now, that being said and agreed two ... take a minute to analyze that time period.

The first two years there he would be using the previoius coach's talen - those in the junior and senior classes along with sophomores. Starting year 3 Weis is using his talent. So what do you have - first two seasons ND does well ... until they go to bowl games and get beat. Not a good sign.

The last three years Weis is playing with his at least half of his own players in year 3, 3/4 of his palyers in year 4, and all of his own players in year 5. What is the sum total of those three years - he has a losing record.

Sorry but this hire is not good for KU. Take time and read articles on Weis, track down the 60 minute interview they had with him. In doing so you will find out a lot about him and his view point about himself.

Pack your bags Zenger ... you are out of here in three years.

RockChalkFLJayhawk 3 years, 8 months ago

As a Jayhawk (class of '99) living in Florida, I have to admit - Gator fans are looking at me like I'm crazy when I say I'm excited about this hire. I think they were ready to run him out of FL as the scapegoat for their down year...but don't start me on Gator fans...or the SEC...after all, the Pokes were ROBBED. Honestly, I would have preferred Fulmer (I think he truly wanted to be at Kansas, whereas Weis wants any opportunity to get back into the HC office), but I'm extremly optimistic. And by optimistic - as a KU fan talking about football - I'm hoping for an 8-4 season in Weis' second year.

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