Archive for Thursday, December 8, 2011

Virginia Tech: Police officer, 1 other killed

Police: shooter not person pulled over

December 8, 2011, 12:13 p.m. Updated December 8, 2011, 4:45 p.m.


— A gunman walked into a parking lot and killed a Virginia Tech police officer who was conducting a traffic stop on campus Thursday, state police said.

Sgt. Robert Carpentieri said it appeared that the shooter was not in the car that had been pulled over. The sergeant said another officer later spotted a second person in a different parking lot who was alive at the time. That person, a white man, later died of a gunshot wound.

Police would not say during a Thursday afternoon news conference whether the second dead person was the gunman who killed the officer. However, a law enforcement official who had knowledge of the case and spoke on condition of anonymity told The Associated Press that the gunman was believed to be dead.

Virginia Tech officials said on the school's website that a weapon was recovered near the second body found on campus. School officials also said there was no longer an active threat Thursday afternoon and that normal activities could resume.

Investigators were interviewing the person who was pulled over Thursday. Carpentieri also said he couldn't say exactly how many people were involved.

The officer had served on the campus police force for four years. State police were still investigating whether he had been specifically targeted.

The officer's shooting prompted a lockdown that lasted for hours.

As police hunted for the killer, the school applied the lessons learned nearly five years ago, warning students and faculty members via email and text message to stay indoors. It was the first gunfire on campus since 33 people were killed in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

The shooting Thursday sent a shudder through campus, where students preparing for exams were suddenly told to hunker down. Heavily armed officers walked around campus as caravans of SWAT vehicles and other police cars with emergency lights flashing patrolled nearby.

"A lot of people, especially toward the beginning were scared," said Jared Brumfield, a 19-year-old freshman from Culpeper, Va., who was locked in the Squires Student Center since around 1:30 p.m. "A lot of people are loosening up now. I guess we're just waiting it out, waiting for it to be over."

The university sent updates about every 30 minutes, regardless of whether they had any new information, school spokesman Mark Owczarski said.

"It's crazy that someone would go and do something like that with all the stuff that happened in 2007," said Corey Smith, a 19-year-old sophomore from Mechanicsville, Va., who was headed to a dining hall near the site of one of the shootings.

He told The Associated Press that he stayed inside after seeing the alerts from the school. "It's just weird to think about why someone would do something like this when the school's had so many problems," Smith said.

Harry White, 20, a junior physics major, said he was in line for a sandwich at a restaurant in a campus building when he received the text message alert.

White said he didn't panic, thinking instead about a false alarm about a possible gunman that locked down the campus in August. White used an indoor walkway to go to a computer lab in an adjacent building, where he checked news reports.

"I decided to just check to see how serious it was. I saw it's actually someone shooting someone, not something false, something that looks like a gun," White said.

Campus was quieter than usual because classes ended Wednesday and students were preparing for exams, which were to begin Friday. The school postponed those tests.

The shooting came soon after the conclusion of a hearing where Virginia Tech was appealing a $55,000 fine by the U.S. Education Department in connection with the university's response to the 2007 rampage.

The department said the school violated the law by waiting more than two hours after two students were shot to death in their dorm before sending an email warning. By then, student gunman Seung-Hui Cho was chaining the doors to a classroom building where he killed 30 more people and then himself.

The department said the email was too vague because it mentioned only a "shooting incident," not the deaths. During testimony Thursday, the university's police chief, Wendell Flinchum, said there were no immediate signs in the dorm to indicate a threat to the campus. He said the shootings were believed to be an isolated domestic incident and that the shooter had fled.

An administrative judge ended the hearing by asking each side to submit a brief by the end of January. It is unclear when he will rule.

Since the massacre, the school expanded its emergency notification systems. Alerts now go out by electronic message boards in classrooms, by text messages and other methods. Other colleges and universities have put in place similar systems.

Universities are required under the Clery Act to provide warnings in a timely manner and to report the number of crimes on campus.

During about a one-hour period on Thursday, the university issued four separate alerts.

Derek O'Dell, a third-year veterinary student at Virginia Tech who was wounded in the 2007 shooting, was shaken.

"It just brings up a lot of bad feelings, bad memories," O'Dell said. "You pray there are no more victims, and pray for the families."

O'Dell was monitoring the situation from his home a couple of miles from campus.

"At first I was just hoping it was a false alarm," he said. "Then there were reports of two people dead, and the second person shot was in the parking lot where I usually park to go to school so it was kind of surreal."

In August, a report of a possible gunman at Virginia Tech set off the longest, most extensive lockdown and search on campus since 2007. No gunman was found, and the school gave the all-clear about five hours after sirens began wailing and students and staff members started receiving warnings.

The system was also put to the test in 2008, when an exploding nail gun cartridge was mistaken for gunfire. Only one dorm was locked down during that emergency, and it reopened two hours later.

Tucker reported from Washington. Associated Press writers Kimberly Hefling and Ben Nuckols in Washington and Michael Felberbaum and Larry O'Dell in Richmond, Va., contributed to this report.


DillonBarnes 6 years, 4 months ago

I will reserve comment until the situation settles, thoughts are with all involved.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 4 months ago

"I will reserve comment until the situation settles,"

Thanks for letting us know. We'll be on the edge of our seats till you do.

DillonBarnes 6 years, 4 months ago

...and desperate to be controversial. My comment was generally a statement how it would be wise for many to withhold judgment and political statements until after the event was over.

Obviously that statement went over bozo's head and he was more concerned with the attention being drawn to him.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 6 years, 4 months ago

You could have just withheld comment altogether, rather than giving us your play-by-play report of your withholding of comment.

I hope you'll excuse me now while I go watch some paint dry. I'll let you know when it is.

DillonBarnes 6 years, 4 months ago

You could have just withheld comment as well. If you find my comment so useless, isn't commenting on that comment an extra useless comment?

ignatius_j_reilly 6 years, 4 months ago

Read elsewhere that today something was expected to happen with VaTech's appeal of its fine from the Dept. of Education. Serious, not meant to be a joke whatsoever: I wonder how their preparedness is today. I hope it's much improved. Thoughts and prayers with everyone there.

ignatius_j_reilly 6 years, 4 months ago

Sorry -- to clarify, something was happening with the appeal of its fine from the Dept. of Ed. regarding the last tragic shooting.

dlkrm 6 years, 4 months ago

What's with the dateline? Do we have the right school? Virginia Tech is neither in nor near Richmond.

missmagoo 6 years, 4 months ago

true, they're almost 4 hours apart. maybe the location of the AP office the story is coming from?

Alex Parker 6 years, 4 months ago

That was the dateline from the AP. They've since changed it to Blacksburg.

Alex Parker 6 years, 4 months ago

That was the dateline from the AP. They've since changed it to Blacksburg.

kernal 6 years, 4 months ago

VA Tech's school newspaper is tweeting the incident and has been evacuated. Evidently still shots being fired elsewhere on campus as of 9 minutes ago.

50YearResident 6 years, 4 months ago

Latest update, second person found dead in a different parking lot. Shooter still at large.

DillonBarnes 6 years, 4 months ago

I'm glad you find this tragic situation as an opportunity to troll.

MarcoPogo 6 years, 4 months ago

Your first sentence sums up the rest of your post.

Gary Anderson 6 years, 4 months ago

How disgusting of you lawrenceguy40...just disgusting...

beatrice 6 years, 4 months ago

The new moderator claimed he was going to do more to clean up this site from comments like this. I wish he would begin doing so.

jaywalker 6 years, 4 months ago

If you're gonna post like that you'd probably feel more at home on the Star's message boards, L40.

Frederic Gutknecht IV 6 years, 4 months ago

Ah, the mumbling of a sociopath stumbling along his psycho path...

BlackVelvet 6 years, 4 months ago

I'm surprised he didn't find a way to blame it on Lawrence PD

Frederic Gutknecht IV 6 years, 4 months ago

Ah, the mumbling of a sociopath stumbling along his psycho path...

kernal 6 years, 4 months ago

lawrenceguy40, inappropriate comment for the situation.

hujiko 6 years, 4 months ago

Hey LJW,

How many times does a user have to make baseless, thoughtless, insensitive comments before being banned? Not to mention at a time when people are being murdered in the streets just for being there. I know there are free speech aspects to all of it, but this has gone way too far.

hujiko 6 years, 4 months ago

Not to mention politicizing every single event to the point were it's plain disgusting.

Frederic Gutknecht IV 6 years, 4 months ago

Ah, the mumbling of a sociopath stumbling along his psycho path...

beatrice 6 years, 4 months ago

No. I welcome opposing points of view. I mean delete users who's only reason for being on here is to make hateful comments, as lawrenceguy40 has done here. We don't even know how many have been killed, and he is using this as a forum to say stupid things about our President?

Defend him if you wish. I am obviously not the only one to see his trolling behavior for what it is.

kernal 6 years, 4 months ago

For those who see fit to blame President Obama for this incident, it occurred during a traffic stop and there's no confirmation the shooter is a student.

Clamp it!

FlawontheKaw 6 years, 4 months ago

Your comment lg40 was also ignorant, baseless, hateful, insensitive, and full of errors in content, spelling, and grammar. It also reeks of immaturity. Are you really just a middle school student? Are you just jealous that you will never be able to attend college?

beatrice 6 years, 4 months ago

I'm not at all surprised you would come to the defense of lawrenceguy40.

If agno's account was "shut off," would they send him an e-mail letting him know or would he simply be able to not log back on?

Or does it vary each time?

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