Archive for Wednesday, August 17, 2011

Lawrence City Commission OKs police, fire union contracts

August 17, 2011

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City commissioners at their weekly meeting unanimously approved new four-year contracts with the city’s police and fire unions.

The new contracts call for a 1 percent general wage adjustment in 2012, 1.5 percent in 2013 and 2014 and 1 percent in 2015 for most employees of the unions, although police detectives will not be eligible for the wage adjustment until 2015.

Eligible members of the two groups also will be eligible for merit increases that would boost their wages by either 2.5 percent or 5 percent, depending on their performance evaluations.

Tuesday’s approval concludes negotiations with the two groups that began in April.

Comments

mae 3 years, 8 months ago

Approve firing the union!!! Correct your headline Lj.

Cant_have_it_both_ways 3 years, 8 months ago

What fools, if you don't give them a raise, how many of them do you think will quit?

monkeywrench1969 3 years, 8 months ago

Why would they offer a thanks to those who typically bag on them on the boards hourly. It does not look like they are all getting raises anyway and it would only be those that have good evaluations. I agree the sucky people shouldnot get an increase, but the good guys everyone should count should.

FiremanChris 3 years, 8 months ago

For those of you that are opposed to paying firefighters and police officers, or think they make too much money or benefits:

This is the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation Roll of Honor: http://dev.firehero.org/firehero/firefighter/query

This is the Officer Down Memorial Fallen Police Officers, just in year 2010: http://www.odmp.org/search/year?year=2010

If you feel that those who protect society by willfully engaging in a profession that puts them and their co-workers/friends at great risk of bodily harm and/or death don't deserve to be paid fairly, you ARE actually a bad person.

Cant_have_it_both_ways 3 years, 8 months ago

Not a bad person, it was their choice to become a Fire Fighter, or Police Officer. If they dont like the pay, then they, or you can go do something else. Pretty simple.

FiremanChris 3 years, 8 months ago

Two things: Ideally, in a perfect economic model, yes, police officers and firefighters can go and do something else or work somewhere that pays more. Do you really want the people who show up when you call 911 to be the bottom of the barrel, or were offered the job only because the best candidates passed it up for greener pastures? I don't, nor do most people. Also, people fail to understand that the fire and police departments in any city are a paramilitary organization with rank structure and seniority. Most office workers will switch between companies or businesses several times in their careers and it doesn't affect their career detrimentally. For many professions, changing jobs is a path towards career development and is seen as a positive. Generally speaking, this is the opposite from the fire and police departments of most cities. Many firefighters and police officers will spend their entire twenty-to-thirty year career at the same department, all the while gaining experience and seniority, which is not as readily transferrable to another jurisdiction. So the idea that firefighters and police officers can readily pick up and move to a higher paying jurisdiction is unrealistic given the structure and culture of public safety departments. And, if a department were to openly pay less and offer less incentives to work there, that department would not provide as effective, safe emergency services as departments who are able to recruit and retain more effectively.

So yeah, people that don't support effective public safety institutions are usually terribly misinformed, stuck to some crazy-fundie-teabag-righwing dogma about taxation and government services, or are just bad people.

Jim Phillips 3 years, 8 months ago

FiremanChris,

I don't know how long you have been paying attention to these blogs, but there are those here who are never satisfied with fire or police personnel. It would not surprise me if the LJW were to run a story about how police and or fire officials forced entry into a blazing buiding and saved X number of orphaned and challenged children, and their pets, only to have certain bloggers complain because the police did not have a search warrant before entering the structure, We won't even get into defining exigent circumstances.

Welcome to the liberal Mecca of a conservative state.

Eileen Jones 3 years, 8 months ago

Policemen and firemen (and women) are underpaid. Hard jobs that require dedication and dangerous too.

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