Archive for Wednesday, August 3, 2011

No deal yet reached on new employment contracts for police, fire unions

August 3, 2011


City commissioners and the police and fire unions still have not reached an agreement on new employment contracts for 2012.

The City Commission at its Tuesday meeting set a public hearing for Aug. 16, where commissioners will be presented with two contracts — one from the unions and one from city management. Commissioners then will hear “evidence” about which proposal is “more fair and equitable” based on the city’s finances, comparisons with employment plans for municipal workers in area cities and other factors.

The hearing is part of a formal process the city is required to go through when labor negotiations have officially been declared at an impasse. The city has not gone through the process recently because it has been able to reach a mutual agreement with the police and fire unions in past negotiations.

Under the terms of the process, it is still possible for the city and the unions to reach an agreement before the Aug. 16 hearing.


DRsmith 6 years, 7 months ago

Yes. Pay them whatever they want no matter how bad the economy is. They should all be making at least 6 figures along with free health care. Tax payers can afford it.

KSManimal 6 years, 7 months ago

Typical nonsense response. The idea that public employees should suck up the hardship for the benefit of "taxpayers" is completely illogical.

First, public employees ARE taxpayers. They should not be penalized for choosing a line of work that happens to be tax-funded.

Second, YOU enjoy the services they provide; which range from police & fire protection to flush toilets. I assume you expect these services even during economic downturns.

Third, to force stagnation in compensation for public employees is in effect a targeted tax increase on only those employees. Meanwhile, YOU still enjoy your flush toilet at no additional charge.

Still don't like paying for the services you get? OK, here's a plan: We all pay as necessary for such luxuries as police and flush toilets. YOU, opt out of public services. Therefore, you can poop in a bucket beside your bed; and hope nobody burglarizes your house.

ps - anyone who chooses no taxes over police protection must also publish their address in the local paper, along with a list of valuables within the house. That will help lower the homeowners insurance burden for the rest of us.

DRsmith 6 years, 7 months ago

Who said I was chosing not taxes over services? All I am saying it be reasonable. No one should get automatic raises, no matter what you do.

KSManimal 6 years, 7 months ago

In your scenario, stagnant pay would not keep up with inflation and would thus represent a continual reduction in pay for public workers.

Are you going to flush less? Only call the police/fire for every other incident? Perhaps our traffic signals could only run every other day......

No, you're expecting the same services for less money; regardless of how you spin it.

DRsmith 6 years, 7 months ago

So are you saying everone's pay should keep up with the rate of inflation or just cops? Just curious as to what La La land you hang out in.

DRsmith 6 years, 7 months ago

Or better yet. Since you suggest I only call the cops every other incident etc... how about I get a nice big fat refund since I have never called nor been pulled over? I am starting to like this land you live in after all.

nekansan 6 years, 7 months ago

Actually you should pay more since it is clear you are benefiting from the security and safety their service provides you.

The reality is the PD are supporting a city that has had 33% population growth since 1990. Meanwhile the number of patrol officers on the department has not grown since 1999. Add to that the large population of individuals with mental health issues and the LPD is a very busy and underfunded department. The fact that you see so little impact from the increase in the population, area and demands placed on the PD by the community is a perfect testament as to why they deserve to be compensated appropriately.

imastinker 6 years, 7 months ago

DR said "automatic" raises. I for one am tired of every public employee getting a cost of living adjustment AND a merit raise.

I want to know how some of these people bettered themselves to be worth more merit pay. I have a hard time believing that everyone in a city does, yet there are frequently merit increases given across the board.

pz5g1 6 years, 7 months ago

If I can't get a raise then no one should get a raise. Hrmph.

Cant_have_it_both_ways 6 years, 7 months ago

Everytime they get a pay raise, I take a pay cut. God love them...but enough is enough. We have a library to pay for!

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