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Wichita man petitions state to keep President Obama off Kansas ballot in 2012

David Merton Shultz of Wichita talks about his petition he filed with Kansas officials, alleging that President Barack Obama has not proven he is a natural born U.S. citizen. Shultz petitioned the State Objections Board to keep the president off the Kansas ballot in 2012.

April 11, 2011, 12:15 p.m. Updated April 11, 2011, 4:17 p.m.

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David Merton Shultz on Monday displays documents during a presentation before the State Objections Board in his petition to keep President Obama off the ballot in 2012. Shultz says Obama hasn't provided proof that he is a natural born U.S. citizen.

David Merton Shultz on Monday displays documents during a presentation before the State Objections Board in his petition to keep President Obama off the ballot in 2012. Shultz says Obama hasn't provided proof that he is a natural born U.S. citizen.

— A Wichita man on Monday petitioned top state officials to keep President Barack Obama off the Kansas ballot in 2012, saying that the president wasn’t eligible for the office because he has failed to prove he was born in the United States.

“I’m saying that he (Obama) is going to file documents to be on the Kansas ballot. At the time, I would like the state of Kansas to be prepared,” said David Merton Shultz.

The State Objections Board rejected Shultz’s request by a 3-0 vote, with members agreeing that the petition was too early. Under state law, any challenge of a candidate being on the ballot must be made within three days of that candidate officially filing his or her candidacy in the state.

In Obama’s case, that likely won’t happen until after the September 2012 Democratic national Convention.

The Objections Board is composed of Secretary of State Kris Kobach, Attorney General Derek Schmidt and Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer. Colyer was represented at Monday’s meeting by Caleb Stegall, who is Gov. Sam Brownback’s general counsel.

None of the board members, all Republicans, made any comments about Obama’s birth. No one from Obama’s campaign attended the meeting.

In 2010, Kobach said Obama would resolve questions about his citizenship by producing a detailed birth certificate. A year before that, he joked at a GOP barbecue that Obama and God shared something in common because neither has a birth certificate.

Shultz, 63, who described himself as a movie prop engineer, said he has done hundreds of hours of research and has concluded that Obama, a Democrat, hasn’t proved he was born in this country. That would make him ineligible to be president because the U.S. Constitution says only natural born citizens of the United States may be eligible for the office, he said.

Shultz questioned the validity of Obama’s certificate of live birth, and said Obama’s supporters have spent a lot of time and money to smear those who question where he was born as racists or so-called birthers.

State of Hawaii officials have affirmed that Obama’s original birth certificate is real and that the shorter certificate of live birth is the standard document given to any Hawaii resident who requests his or her birth certificate. Newspapers in Hawaii also published contemporaneous birth announcements for Barack Obama in August 1961, when the president was born.

But Shultz said it was peculiar that a “mulatto baby” was born and yet no one from the hospital remembers the occasion. “That was not a common occurrence. It would stick in someone’s mind,” he said.

Shultz said he would be back at the appropriate time to file a challenge, and asked that state officials pass a law similar to one considered in Arizona in which a candidate for president would be required to show proof of citizenship to get on the ballot. “I’m here to partner with you guys,” Shultz told members of the Objections Board.

But Stegall told him, “The task of this board is not to provide help with you coming back later.”

Kobach said Monday’s hearing was standard procedure when someone files a petition with the Objections Board.

Comments

nomansland 3 years ago

Kansas...truly as bigoted as you think! Thank god I moved away when the going was good! Now I wonder if this question would be asked of a white president?!

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 3 years ago

You "birther" folks don't have an issue with Obama, you have an issue with the government of one of the 50 United States. If this info is false, then your attack is against the official government of Hawaii.

Are you willing to entertain that the State of Hawaii is participating in the conspiracy? The Kenyans AND the State of Hawaii, along with the local paper sat in a smoke-filled room and cooked up this plan in 1961. Hawaii is still committed to ruining the country 50 years later, so they are keeping up the ruse.

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whatadrag 3 years ago

Just by reading the first sentence of the article, I get the impression that this David Shultz is a waste of breath and resources

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 3 years ago

For LG40 and the rest of the "Off-Our-Meds Posse":

Explain this: http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif

So... let's understand the conspiracy. The little African nation of Kenya planted a child in the U.S. in 1961 in hopes (a very loooong shot) that their little spy would do well in school and someday become president , destroying our Christian nation in the name of Allah for the sum of 70 virgins.

And we KNOW this is true because there would have been a police inquiry into any live births of children born out of an impure/unholy union of people of two different races. The man was never hung from a tree, and the woman never stoned for her perversion, so it never happened.

Something like that?

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oldbaldguy 3 years ago

"everybody was kung fu fighting," i am normally a conservative but that does not mean i am crazy or a racist. Herr Shultz is both. This kind of crap will guarantee the Democrats winning in 2012. "If you tell a big enough lie, it will be believed," with reference to Joseph Goebbels.

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deec 3 years ago

Doesn't matter. Mom was a citizen and he was born in the U.S.

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borderraven 3 years ago

Barack Obama was born a dual-citizen and is ineligible to be on the 2012 ballot.

The requirement that for consular registration within one year of birth applied only if the father was a Citizen of the UK and Colonies (CUKC) by descent only and the child was also to become a CUKC by descent rather than birth in the UK or colonies. As Barack Obama Sr, was born in the colony of Kenya, he was a CUKC by birth rather than descent. Thus, Barack Obama II was capable of becoming a CUKC by descent without the need for consular registration.

British Nationality Act, 1948 (11 & 12 Geo. 6.) CHAPTER 56.

ARRANGEMENT OF SECTIONS PREAMBLE Part II Citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies. Citizenship by birth or descent. 5. Citizenship by descent. 5.—(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth: Provided that if the father of such a person is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent only, that person shall not be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by virtue of this section unless— (a) that person is born or his father was born in a protectorate, protected state, mandated territory or trust territory or any place in a foreign country where by treaty, capitulation, grant, usage, sufferance, or other lawful means, His Majesty then has or had jurisdiction over British subjects; or"

Foreign consulates are authorized in the US under treaty, therefore "His Majesty then has or had jurisdiction over British subjects".

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DeaconBlue 3 years ago

Democrats don't like it when police check driver licenses of suspected undocumented people in Arizona either.

So what's new? Is it any wonder that they don't like birth certificates either.

Hillary Clinton's election staff started this issue, and I suspect she'll finish it.

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Kontum1972 3 years ago

Shew doesnt like himself..let alone anyone else....leavenworth county is a good place for him....actually Tonganoxie is perfect...example....when i was in college i had a friend who lived there, i stopped in at a corner cafe there to ask directions, when i walk in the door I got stared down by all the crowd who was there....the person behind the counter said to me your not from these parts ...and i said no...SE Kansas all i wanted was directions......i got plenty of dirty looks from all the jethro's in there, and i left in a big hurry....i could of swore i heard the opening licks to Dueling Banjos....that town creeps me out.

Pretty bad when the Mayor gets caught sending out porno in emails...real smart...!

Everyone looks like cousins there....

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Kontum1972 3 years ago

hmmmmm..i went back to Providence Hospital and no one recognized me,.....AND i was born there.....

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deec 3 years ago

  1. "The Territory of Hawaii was a United States territory that existed from July 7, 1898, until August 21, 1959, when it was admitted to the Union as its fiftieth state, the State of Hawaii." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territor... 2.Obama's birth certificate authenticity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territor...
  2. Arnold cannot be president because neither of his parents were American and he was not born on U.S.controlled soil.
  3. "In situations where only one parent is a United States citizen, he or she must have lived in the United States for at least five years at some point before the child's birth as a full American citizen, and at least two of these five years must have occurred after the parent's 14th birthday. In the case of a child born to an American mother, the child is usually considered a natural born citizen, whether or not the mother is married. However, if an American father is involved in a relationship with a foreign woman and the couple is not married, the father may need to fight for the child's right to citizenship." http://www.wisegeek.com/in-the-united-states-what-is-a-natural-born-citizen.htm
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edjayhawk 3 years ago

What about GWB's controversial military service?

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edjayhawk 3 years ago

Biggest yawn as well as laugh of the day!

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Paul R Getto 3 years ago

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........I'm still trying to figure how to prove I'm a citizen so I can vote in a couple of years.

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rbwaa 3 years ago

how about asking HIM to produce his detailed birth certificate before he can file his next challenge...

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DeaconBlue 3 years ago

This is a non-starter. Hillary Clinton will see to it that Mahdi is revealed.

C'est la vie

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ivalueamerica 3 years ago

Crap like this is just too stupid for words...worse is the media eats it up and most embarasing for my country....idiots swallow it hook line and sinker.

I really felt like there was a time when Americans were thoughtful.

Now, so many of them are just chatty cathy dolls, repeating whatever they have been told to think.

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tange 3 years ago

/ awaiting the last wave, in landlocked Kansas.

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repaste 3 years ago

I think it was Sam Clemons who said "Don't try to match wits with a half wit"

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tennesseerader 3 years ago

I want to see Obama's birth certificate; the one that was signed by his mother. Where is it? I have one.

This is a constitutional issue. Does anyone care?

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repaste 3 years ago

They don't want to control them, it does not have to be factual, just keeping it out there is enough to keep a segment of shallow thinkers to believe there is something there. It is like Rove vs Richards "Would you still vote if she was a lesbian?" Folks like tom tom, lg40, soak it up.

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mutualrespect37 3 years ago

"All the news that's fit to print"--but due to wacko beliefs of many inhabitants of the plains special provisions must be made for Kansans.

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beatrice 3 years ago

You know how conservatives keep saying that Muslims need to control their extremists, or at least speak out against them? Clearly, conservatives should be speaking out against their own extremists as well.

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rockchalker52 3 years ago

that vid looks like a tv pilot to me. Isn't that randy quaid?

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LJ Whirled 3 years ago

What about Hillary?

That answers the entire "birth issue" for me ... if there was anything to it, Bill and Hillary would have pounced on it, run Obama out of the race, and Hillary would have been the Dem nominee and likely President. I have to think the Clintons had the incentive and means to find any defects in the credentials ... but they didn't ... so I don't buy into the birther camp, even while, just maybe, a tiny little bit, hoping that they would find something so we could enjoy the show that would ensue.

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akuna 3 years ago

huh, imagine that, he's a 60+ year old white man. I'm guessing there is a streak of bigotry in his history.

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Tom Shewmon 3 years ago

"...just blind hatred of a black man who had audacity to be elected president."

"...just justified intense dislike for a radical fraud who happens to be black and had the unwavering assistance of the corrupt mainstream media in getting elected president based soley on the fact he is black ."

There, fixed it up for ya'. Talk about audacity by the way, someone who's been banned at least 5-6 times, tossing such accusations around.

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seeker_of_truth 3 years ago

Has anyone ever noticed how when certain posters show up. entire thread goes to hell? Mindless rants, never backed up by facts, just blind hatred of a black man who had audacity to be elected president.

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brewmaster 3 years ago

Why...why...why is there another nut-job from Kansas getting publicity for lunatic ideas? We already have to contend with "Phred" in Topeka, Tom Shewmon in the LJWorld forums and now Sargent Schultz in Wichita, Oh the humanity.

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Tom Shewmon 3 years ago

tHe fraudulent anOinTed onE and Holder, while desperately trying to balance playing to the center/right and meantime their far-left kook base, are absolutely unable to hide their arrogance and hatred for traditional America and desire to destroy her.

"Soldiers offended by the sight of two male Marines kissing in public better not mention that fact to their superiors. Under President Obama, the new “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” rules turn the Clinton-era policy on its head. Now those who embrace traditional moral values are the ones being told to stay in the closet.

In testimony Thursday before the House Armed Services Committee, leaders of each service branch answered questions about what they have been doing to implement the repeal of the long-standing ban on open homosexual conduct in the military. In December, defeated members of Congress rammed through a repeal of the homosexual conduct ban in a lame-duck congressional session. The new policy will take effect 60 days after the Pentagon certifies that doing so won’t undermine military readiness. Given marching orders from the White House, the top generals and admiral made clear they have every intention of providing the rubber stamp the Obama administration seeks.

Marine CorpsGen. James F. Amos insisted that so far there had been no “push back” from the troops. That’s because administration officials had been busy laying the groundwork for this change long before the repeal was signed into law. The message from on high has been crystal clear: Anyone who has a problem with the New Gay Army isn’t welcome. As Joint Chiefs chairman Adm. Michael G. Mullen put it in a briefing last year, the answer for those who don’t like it is “to vote with your feet” and leave the military."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/8/obamas-new-dont-ask-dont-tell-policy/

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deathpenaltyliberal 3 years ago

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Olympics 3 years ago

The only good thing I can say about this man is that he won't be on the planet for too much longer.

Looking at the demographics of the tea party/birther folks ALWAYS makes me smile. Here's one from your generation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIE2GA...

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Tom Shewmon 3 years ago

Odd....no not really odd....the crooked Obama worshiping media brushed aside the story of HI's very own gov. bringing this entire notion up again. Only when the right does it.

God Bless each and every Obama mesmerized frigging loon.

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Liberty275 3 years ago

It's unconstitutionals to keep obama off the ballot just because he can't prove he's a natural born citizen. He should still be allowed to run as dog catcher. I still wouldn't vote for him, but we really need to follow the constitution.

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Gandalf 3 years ago

Looks like I accidently gave tea party members a new idea with my Lincoln comment.

Sorry!

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4getabouit 3 years ago

Can Kansas get any dumber?

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Kirk Larson 3 years ago

Hundreds of hours of research. What, contemplating his own navel?

And. oh the shock of a "mulatto" baby! Let me guess...this guy is a republican. http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/04/mississippi-46-of-polled-republicans.html

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Rush2009 3 years ago

There are a lot like him in Kansas, ignorant, uninformed, and stupid. Republican party likes people like him, they have blind faith while the party ships jobs overseas, rich becomes richer, and middle-class becomes poor.

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Agnostick 3 years ago

And the extreme (self-)Right(eous) continues to self-destruct...

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tomatogrower 3 years ago

You know I've been unhappy that we aren't out of the middle east yet, so Obama hasn't lived up to my hopes, but this guy has converted me. Now I will vote for Obama, even if I have to write in his name.

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CLARKKENT 3 years ago

LETS REALLY STIR THE POT.

I SEE THE BOARD THAT DECIDES WHO GETS ON THE BALLOT IS A BUNCH OF "GOOD" REPUBLICANS. THAT IS REALLY SWELL.

ALL THE STUFF THAT OBAMA IS GETTING IN TROUBLE FOR WAS STARTED DURING W'S ADMINISTRATION. IT TOOK W EIGHT YEARS TO SCREW US UP, NOBODY CAN FIX IT IN TWO YEARS.

ALL THE MONEY WE HAVE SPENT ON W'S WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION WOULD PROBABLY BALANCE THE BUDGET.

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danmoore 3 years ago

Before we can proceed with your request Mr. Shultz the state needs to verify that you have a high school diploma.

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 3 years ago

"[GASP!!] This baby is a MIXED BREED child!! Call Ripley's!!"

In Hawaii? Every kid in Hawaii was some "shade" of color back then.

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beatrice 3 years ago

John McCain showed his birth certificate ages ago -- it is worth taking a look at, because they handled these things differently back then: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/15writing.html

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whats_going_on 3 years ago

oh good GOD, shut up already, you obsessed, creepy morons.

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lawrenceguy40 3 years ago

barry o cannot produce a valid birth certificate. If he could have done, this topic would have been closed years ago. He is not a legitimate President of our country.

He has also proven through his actions that he hates the USA and is working hard to procure its downfall. Mr. Shultz on the other hand is doing his patriotic duty so that whiners, like most of the liberals here, may continue to live in the freedom and prosperity that they enjoy.

We have 574 days until we vote barry o out and send him home to kenya!

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Steve Bunch 3 years ago

"The Objections Board is comprised of Secretary of State Kris Kobach, Attorney General Derek Schmidt and Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer."

No, the Objections Board COMPRISES Secretary of State etc.....

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seeker_of_truth 3 years ago

Doesn't this "birther" idiot have a life? With all the nutcases in this state, does he really think Obama has the slightest chance of carrying Kansas?

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jackbinkelman 3 years ago

I would say the F.B.I.. C.I.A., N.S.A., and especially the powers that be behind the McCain campaign, have MORE THAN thoroughly investigated this matter and put it to bed years ago. shultz is a crackpot, money and time waster.

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Crazy_Larry 3 years ago

McCain was born in Panama. What's the big deal? Obama could have been born in Jamaica for all I care...The fact remains that his mother is an American and whereever he was born he'd still be considered AMERICAN and have dual citizenship.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html

Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth.

A memorandum to Congress dated April 3, 2009, written by the Congressional Research Service, states--

Considering the history of the constitutional qualifications provision, the common use and meaning of the phrase "natural-born subject" in England and in the Colonies in the 1700s, the clause's apparent intent, the subsequent action of the first Congress in enacting the naturalization act of 1790 (expressly defining the term "natural born citizen" to include a person born abroad to parents who are United States citizens), as well as subsequent Supreme Court dicta, it appears that the most logical inferences would indicate that the phrase "natural born Citizen" would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "at birth" or "by birth."

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cantbelievemyeyes 3 years ago

Regardless of the birth certificate nonsense, his mother is an American citizen therefore so is he!

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autie 3 years ago

Obama couldn't carry Kansas if the other candidate was the devil himself. What does it really matter other than this Shultz guy has some weird phobias? I want to see Mr. Shultz' certificate of live birth. Is he really a Kansan? He might be an escaped German prisoner.

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Ian Legler 3 years ago

What I don't understand about people who are making these accusations is this...

Don't you think that the powers that be, namely Congress, etc would have done enough research to verify that Obama indeed was born a US citizen?

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GmaD321 3 years ago

Find something new to gripe about. This is so-o-o yesterdays misinformation.

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gccs14r 3 years ago

My state-issued Certificate of Live Birth was sufficient for the State Department to issue me a passport. My hospital-issued Birth Certificate, the one with the name of the hospital, the doc's signature, and my footprints, has Not a Legal Document printed right in the middle of it. I wonder how many of these nutters have looked at their own birth documents?

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DRsmith 3 years ago

Does it really matter? Does this guy think Obama will carry KS?

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Phil Minkin 3 years ago

How much is this lunatic going to cost the state in man hours and resources to deal with this non-issue? This guy and the Donald should confine their rants to others who wear tin foil helments have been abducted by aliens.

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KEITHMILES05 3 years ago

I am going to research to see if this guy is nutso.

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 3 years ago

I was born a mullato baby in California in 1964. Do I need a witness from the delivery room to prove that I exist?

This should not be filed under "Politics". It should be filed under "Mental Health".

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akhmatova 3 years ago

Let us juxtapose two quotations from here and let them speak for themselves:

"Shultz questioned the validity of Obama's certificate of live birth, and said Obama's supporters have spent a lot of time and money to smear those who question where he was born as racists or so-called birthers."

"But Shultz said it was peculiar that a "mulatto baby" was born and yet no one from the hospital remembers the occasion. "That was not a common occurrence. It would stick in someone's mind," he said."

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jhawkinsf 3 years ago

Clearly, he has too much time on his hands.

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