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Brownback signs bill restricting late-term abortions based on ‘fetal pain’

April 11, 2011

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— Gov. Sam Brownback has signed a bill restricting late-term abortions based on the presumption that a fetus feels pain after the 21st week.

Brownback planned a signing ceremony Tuesday on two sweeping bills restricting abortion.

He has already signed House Bill 2218, according to the Kansas Legislative Information Systems and Services website. The other bill, House Bill 2035, has yet to be signed, according to the website. That one requires parental consent for minors to have an abortion.

Opponents of abortion have praised the measures.

HB 2218 was landmark legislation that is already law in Nebraska, according to Kansans for Life.

And HB 2035 strengthens parental involvement for pregnant minors, improves judicial bypass protocol and “acknowledges that abortion will terminate the life of a separate, whole, unique living human being,” the group said.

Abortion rights supporters have said the measures will jeopardize the health of women.

“While rare, an abortion that takes place after 22 weeks into a pregnancy is most often necessary because of a severe fetal indication or serious medical condition that endangers the life or health of the mother,” said Peter Brownlie, president and chief executive officer of Planned Parenthood of Kansas and Mid-Missouri.

HB 2035 would force victims of incest or domestic violence “to navigate intricate and likely biased judicial proceedings in order to circumvent the double parental consent provision included in the bill,” said Julie Burkhart, founder and executive director of Trust Women.

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pace 3 years ago

For me to make personal remarks and demonize any person that disagrees with me, does not suffice as argument. Stupid and sly law to create false impediments to others rights under the constitution is not just a waste of money but an attack (taxpaid) against law.

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Paul R Getto 3 years ago

Mattypro: The answer is simple, the skygod chosen by part of the Republican party is calling the shots and designating which legislation is appropriate. Those of us who belileve in secular, rational governance must wait for the next election to see if this is really what people want. In the meantime, get ready for more pelvic, as opposed to economic, politics.

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MattyPro12 3 years ago

So let me get this straight... Republicans & tea baggers spend a good 3/4 of the year talking about how if elected their top priorities will be to fix the economy, create jobs and end government intrusion.

Yet here we have legislation that doesn't fix the economy, doesn't create any new jobs and grotesquely intrudes on womens rights.

So my questions for the republicans & tea baggers who think they know better then everyone else are...

1.) How does this legislation help fix the economy/create jobs? Please cite your examples from the legislation.

2.) How is it that you complain about there being too much government intrusion in our lives & there should be less intrusion, yet you cheer this legislation that intrudes on a woman's uterus & rights?

3.) Who in the hell do you think you are & what gives you the right to tell a woman what she can and can't do with her body. And please be original, none of this "The Bible/God/Jebus says it's wrong" cop out crap that you always throw out, because you have to have something/someone else tell you what to think instead of forming an opinion for yourself.

And for extra credit...

I echo jjt's sediments, and challenge "One of the folk who feel that it is right to force a woman give birth to a dead fetus or a fetus that is so deformed that it has no way of living. Please justify this view. "

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Olympics 3 years ago

Life begins at the erection.

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jjt 3 years ago

Still waiting.....

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kjh 3 years ago

And so goes the debate. I am a woman. It is my body when it is occupied by me, alone. When a child exists in it, it is no longer just "my body". There is another living human being in there. I am forever baffled by those who gloss over that part of the equation. Most often the absence of a negative action against that child is all that is necessary after conception to allow it to be born and survive. If you are put in a position where you are denied access to food, or water, or air to breathe, you become "non-viable" too. I will never understand how we can "split hairs" over human life and decide when it is worthy and when it is not. And I write this as someone who was formerly pro-choice. Thank goodness I learned to value all life.

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Paul R Getto 3 years ago

chic: Good points. I've heard some say (given that men are wimps), "If men had the babies, everyone would be an only child." Medical practice should be restricted to those with licenses, not those elected to run the world according to their vision. May the Flying Spaghetti Monster bless all the zygotes (and while she's at it, all the legislators too.) http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/03/2557081/lee-judge-cartoon-archive.html

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yourworstnightmare 3 years ago

There are already severe restrictions on late term abortions, and rightly so. They are already illegal except in the case of maternal health.

These new measures are geared at eliminating all forms of abortion, not just late term, by acting as wedges into the issue. Furthermore, they are designed to harass the patient and doctor who are involved with the idea that they will be intimidated and cowed.

Current restrictions on late term abortions are a moderate and reasoned. These measures are extreme and represent attempts by the most extreme anti-abortion zealots to do away with all abortions.

Scott Roeder, you have friends in high places in the Kansas government.

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Jeanne Cunningham 3 years ago

Women are still in the majority in the population. When will we get smarter and get more women in political office? When will we go the step forward to regain control of our own bodies?

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mloburgio 3 years ago

The GOP’s War On Women And Children From breast pumps to Big Bird, and from food stamps to family planning, the GOP is waging a war on America’s women and children. Full-fledged Republican battles against women now include anti-abortion bills, anti-contraception efforts, bills that literally would allow women to die in hospitals across America to protect “conscience rights” of doctors, attempts to defund Planned Parenthood, and GOP-sponsored bills that reduce, hamper, or even attempt to eliminate women’s constitutional rights to abortion and reproductive health services.

Yes, despite the fact that 64% of Americans say unemployment and the economy in general are “the most important problems facing this country today,” the GOP has chosen to focus on effectively eliminating the constitutional right to abortion. http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/the-gops-war-on-women-and-children/politics/2011/02/17/17488

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TJ_in_Lawrence 3 years ago

I'm glad you are from Connecticut that explains a lot. Just FYI there are several million of us Kansans who like Sam Brownback. We also believe that we had the right to exist even before we exited our mothers bodies. Thankfully she believed in the right to life. My mother gave birth to 7 children, most of us without a father in the picture. All 7 of us are hardworking contributing members of our communities. Of course by today's standards we should have all been aborted so that she could have been free to pursue her own dreams and goals. I am certain none of us were convenient or affordable. Funny how people who were not denied life can be so hypocritical about denying that right to unborn members of our community.

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sad_lawrencian 3 years ago

I miss Kathleen Sebelius. This dude couldn't make it in the Republican presidential primaries (I remember he raised his hand in a 2008 CNN presidential debate when the moderator asked, "Who here doesn't believe in evolution?") I thought back then that we're doomed, and I still think we're doomed. Makes my home state of Connecticut seem a lot cozier right now...

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Cait McKnelly 3 years ago

This is a very very sad day in this state for both women and the nonviable unborn they may carry. I sincerely hope that Sam Brownback ends up having to answer to the "God" he says he believes in someday for the suffering he has created., because the truth is he doesn't really believe in "sparing babies pain". He believes in controlling his women and all of the women of this state.

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kujayhawk7476 3 years ago

Brownback doesn't care about women or the unborn, he's a right-wing wacko! All he cares about is legislating morality and telling women how they must behave and what they can and cannot do with their bodies. Wake up you religious nuts, abortion is a moral issue between a woman and her God, not a political issue. Just like most issues, those too far to the right and those too far to the left want to tell all of us how to live. Can we abolish the office of governor and the Kansas legislature?

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tennesseerader 3 years ago

Abortion is normally used as a form of birth control; just check out the statistics. This legislation is common sense and does not prevent abortion in cases that it is required for the life of the mother.

Abortion is equal to murder. We have more consideration for animals than we do for humans. Hunting seasons are based on the protection of unborn or young animals.

My experience is that most liberals have participated in an abortion and have a guilt complex because of it. They thus defend their heinous acts against humanity.

Murder of the unborn is the most evil act that man can commit against God or humanity. If someone hasn't had an abortion by the 21st week, they shouldn't be allowed to have one.

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ivalueamerica 3 years ago

How much of our tax dollars will now go to support this law that will not pass Constitutional muster? Can we really afford to spend the money, time and resources on a doomed piece of legislation when we are in a fiscal and employment crisis?

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pace 3 years ago

Tax money should be to protect each Kansan's legal rights not to impede them.

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pace 3 years ago

Goofy laws are expensive. Bad and goofy law at tax payer's expense to put obstacle between a woman and her civil rights. Next they will be using our tax money to impede legitimate voters. Oh too late. kansas is losing law.

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edjayhawk 3 years ago

Kill the mother to let the baby live!

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edjayhawk 3 years ago

What the Governor didn't mention is how will he pay living expenses for the newborn since Brownbutt wants to cut social programs.

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Liberty275 3 years ago

This is a goofy law. We do have anesthesia. For franks sake, we can knock out a horse with one shot.

Disclosure, as a libertarian, I think women have the right to kill the children in their womb until the moment before the children are born. If the child in the womb can feel pain, it should be anesthetized before killing it. We are not monsters.

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Jeanne Cunningham 3 years ago

This is another one of those Rich vs Poor and Male vs Female pieces of legislation. Rich Male (up on high horse) thinks it's up to him to protect Poor Female - and to appear holier than thou while doing it. When Rich Male's females have an unwanted and/or medically dangerous pregnancy - no problem: he sends her off to "somewhere else" to get the abortion. 1. He can afford it and 2. He doesn't want anyone to know, anyhow.

I am NOT in favor of abortion. I AM in favor of NOT telling anyone else (male or female) what to do with his her own body. I AM in favor of preventing unwanted pregnancies in the first place. I AM in favor of patient and doctor making medical decisions.

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jjt 3 years ago

Still waiting for one of the folk who feel that it is right to force a woman give birth to a dead fetus or a fetus that is so deformed that it has no way of living. Please justify this view.

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TJ_in_Lawrence 3 years ago

Finally someone speaks for the child. Thank you legislature and Governor for adding some sanity and common sense to an industry that murders unborn human beings. Proud to be a Kansan today.

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yourworstnightmare 3 years ago

How does this bill create jobs or stimulate the economy.

Just more big-government intrusion into the personal lives of Kansas citizens.

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youngjayhawk 3 years ago

Seriously??? Kansas, as we know it, will not survive 4 years of this dude.

What a sad day for the women in Kansas!

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DillonBarnes 3 years ago

Hi everyone, this thread is about to explode. Go get a soda and enjoy the show!

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