Archive for Thursday, September 30, 2010

Two Asian restaurants, Mexican grill, shoe store set to join Lawrence dining and retail scene

September 30, 2010


A new 23rd Street restaurant serving a variety of food from across Asia is now open.

The Oriental Bistro and Grill, 1511 W. 23rd St., opened in the former space of Jade Mongolian BBQ.

Manager Alan Kao said the restaurant has a pan-Asian theme with dishes from China, Korea and Vietnam, plus a full sushi bar.

The Iowa Street corridor also will be getting an Asian restaurant.

The Tryyaki Noodle and Sushi Buffet is opening at 821 Iowa, the former home to Club Axis.

The restaurant is affiliated with the Tryyaki restaurant at 701 W. 23rd St., according to an employee of the restaurant.

A new Mexican restaurant is opening in the former home of a Mexican restaurant near 23rd and Iowa.

Rodeo Grill, 2016 W. 23rd St., has announced it will open Oct. 1.

The business, which advertises “Mexican cuisine with an American influence,” is in the former home of Ixtapa.

And finally, according to a sign in the window, a new shoe store is opening in the former Kief’s music store, 823 Mass.

According to the sign and a builder working on the site, Foxtrot Shoes is planning to move into the location. Other details weren’t immediately available.


evilpenguin 7 years, 8 months ago

If Tryyaki Noodle and Sushi buffet is in any way affiliated with Tryyaki on 23rd street, I will not be going there. I could sprinkle sesame seeds on my butt and eat it and it would taste exponentially better than anything from Tryyaki.

If you're looking for good Asian cooking, try the Orient on Mass, it has some of the best pad thai I've ever tasted.

Stuart Evans 7 years, 8 months ago

The best pad thai in town is at Thai Siam.

Majestic42 7 years, 8 months ago

It's certainly up there, I agree. (And I've been to Thailand.)

mdrndgtl 7 years, 8 months ago

Haha, the old "trust me, I've been there" line never fails. But seriously, Tryyaki is awesome. They have the best Philadelphia rolls (and I've been to Philadelphia).

Mari Aubuchon 7 years, 8 months ago

Yes! I was jonesing big time when they were closed for vacation in July.

overthemoon 7 years, 8 months ago

I had the WORST restaurant experience ever at Thai Siam (Bad service at counter, they forgot to make our food for 45 minutes, and it was cold and disgusting when it came) but I keep hearing people rave about it. Guess I ought to give it a second chance?

kmcr14 7 years, 8 months ago

I disagree. I think Thai House has the best oriental food in town, not just for Pad Thai, but all around.

BorderRuffian 7 years, 8 months ago

I rather like the Phad Thai at Zen Zero. I order it fearsomely hot and absolutely love it.

irvan moore 7 years, 8 months ago

i sure wish we could get a restaurant that just had plain old food.

llmccorkill 7 years, 8 months ago

I seem to remember Mary's on the north side of the street just west of Naismith.

BorderRuffian 7 years, 8 months ago

I dunno - although I like a variety of ethnic cuisines, there are times when a plain, old cheeseburger or Pork tenderloin (Perry Bar is wonderful for both) goes down just right.

PalinPalms 7 years, 8 months ago

That's what the rest of Kansas is for, plain old food for plain old people

independant1 7 years, 8 months ago

Used to be a cafe w/no name run by biker and wifey between 6th/7th streets. The sign on dorr inside "Don't tell anybody about this place remember it's your seat."

Now that was good food! Especially holiday meals.

Whatever happened to "mother"?

Once heard they retired to Colo.

d_prowess 7 years, 8 months ago

That Foxtrot place sounds cool. Lawrence needs a place for cool women's shoes!

cobaltblue 7 years, 8 months ago

I would pay American Dollars for some decent fried chicken.

parrothead8 7 years, 8 months ago

Nice try. Everybody knows those American dollars aren't worth anything.

Phil Minkin 7 years, 8 months ago

I have been told that the fried chicked at Wheatfield's on Wednesdays is really good

Sharon Roullins 7 years, 8 months ago

Okay, so I hear the consensus of the people and I want to sell dinners. Don't need much space. Maybe a few of these so called restaurants will close and we can have some regular food for a change.

Sharon Roullins 7 years, 8 months ago

Popeye's Chicken or Church's Chicken would be a switch from KFC.

Tim Quest 7 years, 8 months ago

Ah, yes, food xenophobia. How delightful. Derp derp don't like me none o' that foreigner food.

BorderRuffian 7 years, 8 months ago

Wednesday nights at the Topeka Steakhouse - all you can eat fried chicken - awesome. The only fried chicken I have had that was even comparable was the OLD Stroud's in KC.

ksjayhawk74 7 years, 8 months ago

The buffets in this town are 80% Chinese, 15% pizza and 5% Indian.

Can Lawrence get a regular buffet like Sirloin Stockade, please?

Stuart Evans 7 years, 8 months ago

yeah, why no Golden Corral or Coyote Canyon type thing here?

PapaB 7 years, 8 months ago

It was called Bonanza, where Old Chicago is now

BorderRuffian 7 years, 8 months ago

Actually the Indian Buffet on tenth street is AWESOME!!!

bigdave 7 years, 8 months ago

I wish they had a regular buffet! Where is the Indian buffet at?

BorderRuffian 7 years, 8 months ago

It is on tenth Street, just east of Mass.

Evan Ridenour 7 years, 8 months ago

I miss Ixtapa.

Is this new Rodeo Grill owned by the same family?

orioledw 7 years, 8 months ago

No different people....there is still an Ixtapa but you have to go to k7 and johnson drive...owner had two restaraunts and just couldn't run both.

Evan Ridenour 7 years, 8 months ago

Hmm, I just might do that. Loved that place, would be worth the drive.


booklover 7 years, 8 months ago

So what happened to Kief's? Did they move or close down? Did I miss a dang good sale on eclectic music? I'm so bummed.

Bill Lee 7 years, 8 months ago

They moved back to the store on south Iowa, where they feel as if they've gone home.

mindylogan83 7 years, 8 months ago

I wish we could get some good family buffets in town like coyota canyon and golden corral those are cheap for familys and great food but to go eat in topeka for gas and dinner is not cheap or even sizzlers those would be good ones

kernal 7 years, 8 months ago

Places like Golden Corral ( I know nothing about Coyota (e?) Canyon) is why there's such a problem with obesity in this country! You should check out what the fat and sodium content is on their food. That alone will likely give you a heart attack.

bretherite 7 years, 8 months ago

Don't live in LAwrence anymore - what happened to Jade Mongolian. Liked to go there from time to time.

Stuart Evans 7 years, 8 months ago

it made me very sad when i drove by and saw the for sale sign in front.

Does anyone know if this new Oriental Bistro does a mongolian style grille?

Lee Eldridge 7 years, 8 months ago

I don't think so. My wife gets her nails done in that place across the street where Baskin Robbins used to be. The woman's husband is the one who used to run the restaurant. I think he now has a business (maybe a little oriental food store?) next to the nail place. They told my wife that the new restaurant owners were not doing the big grille.

imagainstit 7 years, 8 months ago

Kief's Music, doing business in Lawrence since 1959, has relocated back to 2429 Iowa Street with Kief's Audio/Video... same as it ever was... where were you?

dipweed 7 years, 8 months ago

Oh no, another Mexican restaurant. That means we're also going to get another frickin' bank. New Mexican restaurants and new banks always spring up together I've noticed.

CreatureComforts 7 years, 8 months ago

Those pesky New Mexican restaurants. I'm sick of the whole Albuquerque Casual trend in dining these days!

But just replaced an old Mexican restaurant, so the total number didn't go up...

Aaron McGrogor 7 years, 8 months ago

Jade Mongolian closed down because the owner and his ex wife were both on all of the documents for the restaurant. She was giving him trouble about it so he sold it and started a new fast food Vietnamese restaurant across the street in the building that his current wife's nail salon is in. So now half the building is My Nails and half is Vietnamese food.

Boston_Corbett 7 years, 8 months ago

"because the owner and his ex wife were both on all of the documents for the restaurant."

You mean she went to court to require him to finally follow through with his promises and obligations under their many years old divorce decree instead of continuing to legally expose her to his debts? Yea, I think it was something like that.

BruceWayne 7 years, 8 months ago

and lets not forget about the new business park opening soon on 23rd street! (the former toxic waste dump)

7texdude 7 years, 8 months ago

How would an you-can-eat steak place/buffett survive in lawrence? All-you-can-eat with 30,000 college kids and a bunch of poor folks as well? Good luck. They'd go under fast and would lose money in this town full of heifers. And, no. I'm not talking about the cows in the pastures.

I would love a Luby's, however, very good.

Editorator 7 years, 8 months ago

All these people who whine about wanting "regular food" have places to eat. They are named Perkins, iHop, Steak and Shake, and the various hotel restaurants. Someone tried a home-cooking diner at 11 or 12th and Connecticut, and it didn't make it either, damn shame, the home-cooking was plentiful and tasty. There's a diner at the Orchards called Hayes, regular American food if you don't care for supporting a chain, and a diner on Haskell at 19th as well. My FIL is a good example of one who wants "a good old Shoney's buffet" but the fact of the matter is that even if it were available again, he wouldn't eat out any more than he does now, which is about twice a year. IMO, crappy chain food can stay in Topeka, but I admit I wouldn't mind a Waffle House off the turnpike somewhere.

I'm sad about Ixtapa, the owner was a super sweet man and they obligingly substituted anything on your plate for no extra charge. Mexican food with American style just sounds like a Carlos O'Kellys... bleh.

The all-you-can-eat buffet in Lawrence did go under, it was Furr's Cafeteria at what's now CVS pharmacy. Once upon a time there was a Shoney's on Iowa as well, same fate. Funny how those family buffets just don't seem to get enough biz to stay open here.

John Spencer 7 years, 8 months ago

It wasn't Shoney's it was JB's Big Boy.

GUMnNUTS 7 years, 8 months ago

There was a Shoney's near 24th and Iowa. Big Boys was closer to 9th and Iowa.

overthemoon 7 years, 8 months ago

Hayes House had been gone for over a year, it was good til the good cook quit.. Same with the diner at 19th and Haskel, closed sometime last year.

countrygirl 7 years, 8 months ago

Another diner went in at 19th and Haskell but I don't know anyone who has tried it yet.

kmcr14 7 years, 8 months ago

learn to read. it's just a shoe store. the mexican is in reference to a new restaurant.

PennyBrite 7 years, 8 months ago

Who remembers Cornacopia? Was that the name of it? It used to be on Mass a LOOOONG time ago. I loved that food.

For the past many years, I have enjoyed La Parilla. I loved just how down to earth it was -- but now they went and "yuupified" it and had to ruin a good thing.

pizzapete 7 years, 8 months ago

Yea, I wasn't too happy with the change either. Maybe you were thinking of Tin Pan Alley? Lawrence has a lot of turnover in restaurants. Businesses that sell t-shirts or alcohol seems to do best in Larry. Assuming they are paying KU fees and not playing rap music.

John Spencer 7 years, 8 months ago

It was Cornucopia, and it was I believe, owned by the same folks as TPA.

overthemoon 7 years, 8 months ago

The Cornucopia was an institution, a lifestyle, a community!! Best salad bar on earth before they became the sorry piles of lettuce and jello everywhere.

Its was where Bambinos is now.

Scott Kaiser 7 years, 8 months ago

I remember it. Do you also remember Sisters Kettle at the same place at 14th and Mass.? I Also remember Sambo's, King's Food Host and Lums.

readit 7 years, 8 months ago

Yes, they "yuupified"? it by CLEANING it, thank goodness. I got tired of going in and sliding across the greasy floors.

kernal 7 years, 8 months ago

I took a friend from out of town to La Parilla a couple of weeks ago and was very disappointed with the food; hadn't been there for a couple of years.

I really miss Cornucopia and Paradise Cafe. I think Steve McCoy and Randy Walker should collaberate on a cookbook and call it River City Eats! Puhleese, purty please!!?

overthemoon 7 years, 8 months ago

Paradise in its heyday was the last of what I think of as the 'real lawrence'...long wait for Sunday breakfast, but you got to see everyone you knew. Never a painful wait.

Compare to first watch or the like...a cattle herd with a bunch of strangers. Miss the old Lawrence.

bkreed1960 7 years, 8 months ago

Loved Cornucopia! Won't eat at Hayes because I got food poisoning there about 3 years ago and made me extremely sick. They changed hands but the memory is still too fresh.

Good luck to the new businesses.

TopJayhawk 7 years, 8 months ago

Hate to break it to all of you food snobs on here. I know you don't like chains, and I know you like your haute-cuisine, makes you feel so special. But I work with a girl from Thailand, and she, (and others I know) all tell me the Thai restaurants are all Americanized and fake, just like chinese food, and vietnamese food, It is nothing like what you eat in Thailand or anywhere in the orient for that matter.
It is all an illusion. But isn't that what life is all about?

BorderRuffian 7 years, 8 months ago

I'd certainly agree with you on the Phad Thai at Zen. The only place I've found that is as good is the Thai Place (preferably the original one on Sante Fe ) in Overland Park.

overthemoon 7 years, 8 months ago

I don't think anyone has been talking Haute Cuisine. Its not about 'being special', but I always prefer to eat at a locally owned restaurant, whether here or when traveling.

MyName 7 years, 8 months ago

Hate to break it to all of you food snobs, but I work with a girl from the South and the KFCs they have in China and Thailand are all Americanized and fake.

Boston_Corbett 7 years, 8 months ago

You can get American Chinese PLUS authentic Chinese at The Jade Garden off (15fh and Kasold) of the Mandarin menu.

Unfortunately, most gringos do not like those taste palettes, so that is whey these items are Mandarin only. Just look around at the Chinese students who frequent there, and you can see a range of these dishes

BorderRuffian 7 years, 8 months ago

Unfortunately, most gringos do not like those taste palettes, so that is whey these items are Mandarin only. Just look around at the Chinese students who frequent there, and you can see a range of these dishes"

I thought "gringos" was more of a Mexican term.

Also, I do not remember "whey" as being part of a Mardarin, or Cantonese, cuisine

7 years, 8 months ago

This is a lot of good feedback about some of our local businesses. If you want, you can also leave a Review of your favorite places in Lawrence over on our Lawrence Marketplace site. It's an online business directory with a profile page for every business in Lawrence.

-Adrian Jacobs Digital Advertising Operations Lawrence Journal-World

BorderRuffian 7 years, 8 months ago

Do NOT forget Jasmine's in Eudora. A bit out of the way, but absolutely some of the best Chinese I have in these here parts.

Ryan Neuhofel 7 years, 8 months ago

2 words . . . . . Food Trucks. No true foodie town is complete without them.

William Pike 7 years, 8 months ago

The new Oriental is very nice. The new owner hired Alan from Jade M. Grill to be the manager (the best server ever. If he ever had your table you know who I am taking about) It has an upscale feel yet very comfortable to bring your kids to or go have a roll while you do you school work. I noticed that they had rolls there as low as $3 We had some standard Chinese (american) dishes Generals Chicken (4/5) Sweet sour chicken (4/5) Moo Goo (3.5/5) Lettuce wraps (5/5 very good) I cant remember the names of the rolls that we had but they were AWESOME (4.5/5). I think this is a high contender for the best oriental food in town due to its diverse menu. There is a little bit of everything and (from our experience) its VERY GOOD.

Boston_Corbett 7 years, 8 months ago

Jade Garden is open and busy, menu continues to expand. Largest asian menu in town.

Ixtapa closed approx 6 weeks ago.

RogueThrill 7 years, 8 months ago

That closed a couple months back. I don't know why because I always saw a full lot when I drove by. I rarely ate there though because King Buffet was less crowded, cheaper and I really enjoy their House Chicken.

Jillster 7 years, 8 months ago

We tried "The Orient" this week, and the transformation of the decor is amazing. You'd never know you were in the same place that "Jade" used to be.

The food was really great, too, so even though I don't live in Lawrence anymore, I hope I get a chance to eat there again soon!

helloannie 7 years, 8 months ago

I couldn't disagree with you more. I thought the food was horrible! On the plus side, my friends that had sushi really loved it. If you eat off the Chinese portion of the menu, be warned!

coolmarv 7 years, 8 months ago

bkreed1960, you probably got food poisoning because the cook used the same hand to pull raw chicken our of the fridge as he used to handle plates and bread. I witnessed this a couple of years ago and called him on it. It was the only time I left a restaurant after I had placed an order. I am sure that goes on in the kitchens all the time but if your kitchen is visalbe then you just can't do that. The grill was on the other side of the counter, diner style.

sissezz 7 years, 8 months ago

Ok could we please please get a POPEYE'S or a CHURCH"s fried chicken down here?? Kentucky sucks!!!

BorderRuffian 7 years, 8 months ago

Tortas Jaliscos

I'm glad we're getting a new "Mexican" place, but let's not forget one of Larryville's superb Mexican reataurants - Tortas Jaliscos behind the Phillips 66 on 6th Street (the buiding behind the Basil Leaf). Tortas has some of the most incredible burritos (and THE best Salsa Ahogada) I've ever eaten. I have yet to go there and not been amazed by the quality of their dishes. Want an incredible sandwich experience? Try the Torta Ahagada. It's spicy and is just packed with flavor.

RogueThrill 7 years, 8 months ago

You can't go wrong with anything they serve involving chicken. Also, they are pretty much the only place I know of that serve fish tacos. They aren't stellar fish tacos, but they are all we have.

William Pike 7 years, 8 months ago

I prefer the local places but I have to admit that On The Boarder has pretty good fish tacos

overthemoon 7 years, 8 months ago

Good call. I would warn anyone considering anything with 'Diablo' in the name, though. Got Diablo Shrimp once...beautifully prepared and the initial taste was great...then the devil kicked in. By far the hottest thing I have ever tasted and beyond my abilities! If you like it hotter than hot, you'll love it.

Used to like Pacho's...this is a great alternative. New place out by the movie theater surprised me with a very good Chile Rellenos.

helloannie 7 years, 8 months ago

The new Chinese place on 23rd is HORRIBLE! The interior is very nice- you can tell they are trying very hard to go "upscale". The food on the other hand, should really be avoided. I had noodles that tasted like mush with no flavor. Had the combination platter with beef, chicken and shrimp. If I closed my eyes, I would have no idea what I was eating as they all tasted the same- mushy, flavorless and cold. Will never go back to that place.

Mr_B9 7 years, 8 months ago

For starters, I would like pan fried fried chciken (cut so there is a wishbone), corn bread, cream peas and potatoes, collard greens with bacon and hot sauce, liver and onions, mashed taters and red eye gravy, meatloaf, green beans with ham hocks, hominy, gooey baked mac and cheese, fried catfish, apple sauce, carrots with dill, cottage cheese, deviled eggs, chicken fried steak, black-eyed peas, pork chops, fresh pork tenderloins, potato cheese casserole, po boys, red beans and rice, baby back ribs, succotash, cole slaw, 3 bean salad, baked chicken, hot wings, cabbage and cheese casserole, jowl, baked beans, boudan, spinach, crayfish, cinnamon rolls, pies, stewed tomato's, etc.

Southern cooking would suit my buds just fine.......

kernal 7 years, 8 months ago

... fried green tomatoes, grits, deep dish peach pie, fried okra, stewed okra, gumbo with okra. Mmmm, good!

BorderRuffian 7 years, 8 months ago

carrots with dill? You sicko! The rest sounds like a good time, tho

independant1 7 years, 8 months ago

You forgot chicken livers wrapped in bacon on toast with white cream gravy.

bearded_gnome 7 years, 8 months ago

Mr. B9, I think there are psych meds that could help.
"liver and onions?" I think that is in the DSM-V, or ought to be!

wow!!! I am so sad at the closing of Ixtapa! yes the people who ran it were wonderful! best mex food in lawrence. sometimes a little loud in there. they actually added a couple of dishes to their menu that my wife and I requested.

sad sad sad.

so, does the new asian place where Club Axon used to be have prebooked fighting? or, free knife giveaways? free drinks to every thug/fighter?

that's where the infamous "moon bar" used to be, right?

Kris_H 7 years, 8 months ago

Mr B9, your taste buds are definitely living south of the Mason-Dixon line. :D You might have some luck in SE Kansas but I don't think you'll ever find all of that in any one restaurant.

You mostly have to get out of the cities and go look in the smaller towns for old-style American "home cooking." A lot of those places do a mighty fine chicken-fried steak with mashed taters and cream gravy.

Does Lawrence really need any more Asian or Tex-Mex restaurants? Hmm. I probably won't go there, because I think you have such a treasure trove of other things to eat. I appreciate Zen Zero a lot and they have been my "current favorite" for quite a while.

My sis who lives in Lawrence likes Tortas Jalisco, too, but I have really found nothing to rave about there. Maybe I've just been unlucky, but the service has been ridiculously slow (not really the server's fault, they just didn't have enough help working) and the food I had was like something you can buy at Sam's Club and heat up, and not heat up very well. I'll grant you, I haven't been in a while, so maybe should go see if they've improved.

I, too, will miss Ixtapa and the Jade Mongolian from my list of places worth going to.

PennyBrite 7 years, 8 months ago

I only ate at Ixtapa once. It was with a large group of people and every single one of us who had a chicken dish were super sick all night long. it was awful! So I never ate there again.

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