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Muslims brace for 9/11 anniversary

September 5, 2010

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Demonstrators hold up signs during a news conference Wednesday on the steps of New York’s City Hall. More than 50 leaders of Muslim organizations in New York City are defending plans by developers to build an Islamic community center near ground zero.

Demonstrators hold up signs during a news conference Wednesday on the steps of New York’s City Hall. More than 50 leaders of Muslim organizations in New York City are defending plans by developers to build an Islamic community center near ground zero.

— American Muslims are boosting security at mosques, seeking help from leaders of other faiths and airing ads underscoring their loyalty to the United States — all ahead of a 9/11 anniversary they fear could bring more trouble for their communities.

Their goal is not only to protect Muslims, but also to prevent them from retaliating if provoked. One Sept. 11 protest in New York against the proposed mosque near ground zero is expected to feature Geert Wilders, the aggressively anti-Islam Dutch lawmaker. The same day in Gainesville, Fla., the Dove World Outreach Center plans to burn copies of the Quran.

“We can expect crazy people out there will do things, but we don’t want to create a hysteria,” among Muslims, said Victor Begg of the Council of Islamic Organizations of Michigan. “Americans, in general, they support pluralism. It’s just that there’s a lot of misinformation out there that has created confusion.”

On Tuesday, the Islamic Society of North America will hold a summit of Christian, Muslim and Jewish leaders in Washington “to address the growing tide of fear and intolerance” in the furor over the planned New York mosque.

Islamic centers in many cities are intensifying surveillance and keeping closer contact with law enforcement. Adding to Muslim concern is a fluke of the lunar calendar: Eid al-Fitr, a joyous holiday marking the end of Ramadan, will fall around Sept. 11 this year. Muslim leaders fear festivities could be misinterpreted as celebrating the 2001 terror strikes.

“We’re telling everyone to keep their eyes open and report anything suspicious to authorities and call us,” said Ramzy Kilic of the Tampa, Fla., chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations.

Other efforts around 9/11 aim to fight bigotry. Muslims will clean parks, feed the homeless, and give toys to sick children as part of Muslim Serve, a national campaign to demonstrate Islamic commitment to serving humanity.

Separately, groups are distributing ads to combat persistent suspicions about Islam. One spot, called “My Faith, My Voice,” features American Muslims saying, “I don’t want to take over this country.”

Sept. 11 anniversaries have always been challenging for U.S. Muslims, who have been under scrutiny since the attacks. This year, the commemoration follows a stunning summer in which opposition to a planned Islamic community center near the World Trade Center site escalated into a national uproar over Islam, extremism and religious freedom.

Usama Shami, board chairman for the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix, said a new mosque the congregation has been building for years drew little attention until recently, when some resistance emerged in the neighborhood and from some in city government. Recently, vandals broke into the new building, spilled paint on the floor and broke expensive windows.

Shami believes the ground zero dispute is partly to blame for the trouble, along with passions unleashed by Arizona’s strict new law that would require police to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are in the country illegally.

“All of these issues came at the same time,” Shami said. “When things like that happen, I think they bring out the worst in some people.”

Comments

Hydra 3 years, 10 months ago

If there are any problems put the blame where it belongs. Rauf and el gamel and their monument to terrorists.

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grammaddy 3 years, 10 months ago

There is a mosque that sits directly across the street from Ground Zero, it's been there since 1970, before the WTC was even completed.Get over yourself.

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jimmyjms 3 years, 10 months ago

You mean News Corps monument to terrorists, right?

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matchbox81 3 years, 10 months ago

Grow up. It's a mosque/community center, and is not a monument of any type. How is the American military going to convince people in the Muslim world, that the US is not in a war against Islam, if the Taliban/militant extremists can just point out "In America, they have freedom for their religions, but not Islam."

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jonas_opines 3 years, 10 months ago

Funny how that works both ways.

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Cait McKnelly 3 years, 10 months ago

Saying something and repeating it over and over again doesn't make it true. You have all kinds of right to to say it, but the truth is you have all kinds of right to lie.

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ivalueamerica 3 years, 10 months ago

Yes, you have freedom of speech, but that does not mean freedom for being called a liar if you lie.

Liar.

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independant1 3 years, 10 months ago

El-Gamal - adubious thug of a fellow if there was ever one

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puddleglum 3 years, 10 months ago

but Fox News is real and fair and balanced, because they even say they are themselves.

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scott3460 3 years, 10 months ago

They also support both the republican AND Tea Bagger parties. Can't get any more "fair and balanced" than that.

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grammaddy 3 years, 10 months ago

And they gave $1 million to the Republcan Governors Association to help get the Republican governors re-elected. Fair AND balanced.

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Centerville 3 years, 10 months ago

What's the liklihood of "Muslim Serves" including an apology for their sick, twisted, lunatic fringe who murdered those 3,000 Americans that day? And, maybe, an assurance to the civilized world that violent jihad is considered horrible and crazy by most of Islam?

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independant1 3 years, 10 months ago

liklihood? - about zip

Grand Ayatollah Nasser Makarem Shirazi, dismissed the Nazi Holocaust of Jews during World War II as a new "superstition" for the West, media reported on Saturday. "The Holocaust is nothing but superstition, but Zionists say that people of the world should be forced to accept this," he was quoted as saying by the state news agency IRNA.

"Americans and Westerners are affected by newly appeared superstitions such as the Holocaust," he said according to ISNA news agency.

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Flap Doodle 3 years, 10 months ago

Remember the huge wave of anti-Muslim riots that swept America after 9/11? Oh, wait, that didn't actually happen. Remember the huge wave of Muslin-led riots that swept the world after a magazine in Denmark published some cartoons mocking the M-Dude? That actually did happen. BTW, here's a picture of the M-Dude wearing a kitty-kat mask. =o.o= Have fun storming the castle.

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booyalab 3 years, 10 months ago

Actually, shortly after 9/11 I accidentally stepped on a guy's foot at a middle eastern bakery. Does that count? (don't worry, I was quickly sedated. Those shawarmas will knock you out)

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Judgesmails 3 years, 10 months ago

hopefully, the ny mosque will fire everyone up and lead to payback that is 10 years overdue.

i'll be donating to the Dove Church for their beautiful little campfire!

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seriouscat 3 years, 10 months ago

The dude in FL is absolutely disugsting and should be called out as such by anyone who wants to have a rational debate about Islam and the West and the clash of values it represents. This is is an important issue and people like him are turning it into a bad joke.

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seriouscat 3 years, 10 months ago

Just like building a mosque next to ground zero. Yup it's 100% legal.

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madameX 3 years, 10 months ago

Seriously? It's pretty well established that the constitution doesn't allow Person A to be prevented from doing something that Persons B, C, D, etc. would be allowed to do under the same circumstances if the only reason to not allow Person A to do whatever is that someone doesn't like Person A's religion, race, gender, etc. Surely you were aware of that.

And it's absolutely legal to burn the Quran in a safe and controlled way, just like it's perfectly legal for me to say that the guy planning the bonfire thing is behaving like an ignorant bigoted buttface.

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mdrndgtl 3 years, 10 months ago

9/11 is almost here and I haven't a thing to wear!

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Doug_Mild 3 years, 10 months ago

Malaysia, Bangladesh, Morocco, Tunisia, Bahrain, Qatar, Turkey, Oman, Egypt, Comoros, Indonesia, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan all spring to mind right off the top of my head. But why pay any attention to them? A handful of extremists committed an awful crime on 9/11 and it seems clear that all Moslems everywhere must pay the price.

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Doug_Mild 3 years, 10 months ago

Your replies leave me a little baffled. The source you cite on Bangladesh describes it is a a calm, secular democracy and is directly counter to your original point about Moslems.

I'm not sure why you told us about Morocco's Throne Day. I see Morocco is involved in a border dispute. Much like Christian Kosovo and Christian Serbia. And Christian Georgia and Christian Russia. And Christian Croatia and mixed-religion Bosnia-Herzegovina (remind me, who slaughtered whom in that one?) Shall we assume from this that all Christians are violent extremists or do blanket condemnations only apply to Moslems?

As for Malaysia, you are going to have to clarify. You refer to article 24 and 25, but of what? Is this some official government policy or just someone's manifesto?

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Doug_Mild 3 years, 10 months ago

I'm glad we agree that Bangladesh is a clear example of an Islamic nation (about 90% Moslem, in the case of Bangladesh) in which the religious majority freely and peacefully practices their faith without imposing on others. I'm heartened that you have conceded this fact and, by extension, also conceded the wrongness of the implication of your original question that Moslems are incapable of living peacefully with others.

I agree that Malaysia's human rights ranking is lamentable. Interestingly, they still rank higher than Christian nations like Russia, Belarus, and Mexico as well as the Jewish nation of Israel in its extra-territorial possessions. I've asked you before regarding border disputes and I'll ask you again - is the poor record of some Christian nations a bad reflection on all Christians or can we only issue blanket condemnations of Moslems? How about Jews? Shall they all be judged as criminals because of Israel's actions?

I'm also sorry that Malaysia arrests people and holds them without trial. I bet that the American citizen Jose Padilla, who was arrested on US soil and held for years without charge or trial doesn't like that sort of policy either. Are you prepared to condemn the detention of Jose Padilla or are you only selectively offended by that sort of behavior?

The rest of your information on Malaysia is an odd mish-mash of things with no obvioius relevance to the discussion at hand. You still have not explained what the mystery document that you refer to in your original reply to me. You'll also have to clarify what this demonstration attended by ethnic Indians has to do with anything. Finally, I await your answer to a question of mine that you have overlooked. Who was it that slaughtered whom in Bosnia?

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Doug_Mild 3 years, 10 months ago

Really, so they are pursuing their goals through peaceful elections, much like the US Christians who want to close porn shops and prevent Sunday liquor sales?

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beatrice 3 years, 10 months ago

Can anyone tell me the name of a peaceful Christian country?

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beatrice 3 years, 10 months ago

Christianity is not the official religion.

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beatrice 3 years, 10 months ago

Christianity is not the official religion. Given their past and their role in WWII, can you really say they are "peaceful?"

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beatrice 3 years, 10 months ago

Some do not have Christianity as the official religion, and it is difficult to buy a monarchy as "peaceful."

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jaywalker 3 years, 10 months ago

It's a bogus question, which figures considering the source. First she starts with 'Christian country', then she re-works the argument to where 'Christianity' has to be the official state religion. Then comes the caveat about Sweden, who, having to protect themselves during WWII, is eliminated from an example of a 'peaceful nation.'
The holes are numerous. No country officially has "Christianity" as a national religion, and for good reason. Christianity in itself is not A religion, merely a catch-all word to describe monotheism with Jesus Christ as the focal point. The countries listed like Sweden, Costa Rica, Switzerland, Canada etc. that beatrice discards as solid examples to her bs question are in fact primarily monotheists with Jesus as the Savior, regardless the branches of Catholicism or Protestantism they recognize. Therefore they meet the definition of a Christian nation. But I guess that doesn't matter in bea's world because at one time or another someone probably picked up a gun.

Like I said, bogus question.

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beatrice 3 years, 10 months ago

It was in response to a similar question. And yes, I would consider history when questioning if a nation is peaceful or not.

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jaywalker 3 years, 10 months ago

I don't care what it was in response to, it's a bogus question. And if 'history' is to include nations defending themselves, that just proves my point moreover. Other than that, I highly doubt there's any nation that has been completely peaceful throughout their history, religious stipulation or not. So if ''peaceful' is to signify "never been in an armed/war-like conflict", your question bears as much intellectual depth as asking "has man ever lived without breathing?"

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eldude 3 years, 10 months ago

The at best statement that I can say about Islam is that the fanatical end of it has turned it into a death cult, and the rest of them are just being led around like a chicken on a chain. Now for anyone who considers themselves a liberal americans and they want to love their enemys, well your doing great! Just think, once Islam gets in and has there way (watch what happens inside Great Britan within 10 years) all that ground you gained for Homo weddings, out the door, O and don't forget liberal men your pretty little save the earth love everybody liberal girl friend is going to get pretty hott under that sexy burka. In summation all the liberals are phased out in Islam, pick your sides wisely!!! Don't forget Islam hates you. xoxoxoxoxo

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sibkiss 3 years, 10 months ago

MUSLIMS BRACE FOR 9/11 ANNIVERSARY? WHY?

Anybody really have proof that Osama Bin Laden was responsible for the attacks on 9/11 please contact the FBI. They still have not charged him, and when asked why, stated that there was not enough evidence. See their web site and look up the Bin Laden poster.

9/11 Truth movement is abundant. Millions of people worldwide have questioned the official story that blamed the Saudis etc. Look at the web sites out there. Millions of them! Many books have been published also, including The New Pearl Harbor about the 40 smoking guns which cast doubt about the official story.

6 of the 10 !!! on the 9/11 Commision - official government appointees stated that the evidence did not show enough proof - did many other things which were suspicious. They were lied to, in a nutshell.

Muslims are being blamed and persecuted worldwide for something that has not even been proven was their fault. Did they appreciate what happened to Americans and others in the 9/11 attacks? Some applauded. But it was NOT Muslims who were arrested on 9/11 filming the tower attacks and giving each other hi-fives, and cheering each other. The men arrested WERE ISRAELI MOSSAD. Remember the TV show when Netanyahu grinned and said the attacks were "good for Israel" ??

I for one have never been convinced that the Bush/Cheney propaganda machine which fueled the US response was about truly ridding the world of terrorists. It was more about ridding the world and the US of its liberty and causing an economic funneling of resources into the military and its supporting corporate apparatus.

We have been hoodwinked, bamboozled, Bushwhacked, and now Obama is just carrying on, going forward with the same agenda that was bankrupting US in the last administration. The Banker bailouts, the funneling of more US power away from the people into the hands of the few at the top (G20 and Bilderberg decided what is best for us now, including who will be our President) See the Obama Deception on Youtube and the rest of Alex Jones videos. They make you stop and think, and act like it's time to take back what the top are swindling from us.

May God have mercy on all of us, and forgive us for blaming the innocent if we have. My God loves all of His own, and wishes for all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the Truth. I seek truth and find it in some of the unlikeliest of places. Seek it above the common petty differences that "they" may use to exploit their own agenda of "divide and conquer". UNITE AND CONQUER FOR US ALL before it is too late. Peace

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eldude 3 years, 10 months ago

Thank you Hope_And_Change, great link!!!!!

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Cooky_the_Cook 3 years, 10 months ago

---But it was NOT Muslims who were arrested on 9/11 filming the tower attacks and giving each other hi-fives, and cheering each other. The men arrested were israeli mossad. Remember the TV show when Netanyahu grinned and said the attacks were "good for Israel".---

Cooky says... Israel did it? Oh crud. Nobody tell Bozo. We'll never hear the end of it.... oh wait, you just made that stuff up. Never mind.

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grammaddy 3 years, 10 months ago

Do we have to re-visit FEAR on every anniversary of 9/11?" We have nothing to fear, but fear itself."

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independant1 3 years, 10 months ago

Dutch writer, activist and politician Ayaan Hirsi Ali has been living under the shadow of a fatwa issued by Islamic fundamentalists and has received many death threats. Much to the surprise of many book lovers, the 40-year-old Somalia-born writer appeared for a special session at the Jaipur literature festival on Sunday.

Ayaan wrote the screenplay of Dutch director Theo Van Gogh's movie, 'Submission', which was critical of Islam's treatment of women.

Read more: Living under fatwa for speaking her mind - India - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Living-under-fatwa-for-speaking-her-mind/articleshow/5496461.cms#ixzz0ykf6gWsb

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lounger 3 years, 10 months ago

Soooo I should hold a grudge against the u.s. military for acts against my Cherokee blood over a century ago?? The hate has to end somewhere....

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