Archive for Wednesday, September 1, 2010

Fish in flight: Lawrence photography pros capture odd sight in park

In this submitted photo from Pete Haack, asian carp jump from a stream near the Clinton Lake outlet park.

In this submitted photo from Pete Haack, asian carp jump from a stream near the Clinton Lake outlet park.

September 1, 2010


In this submitted photo from Pete Haack, asian carp jump from a stream near the Clinton Lake outlet park.

In this submitted photo from Pete Haack, asian carp jump from a stream near the Clinton Lake outlet park.

In this submitted photo from Pete Haack, asian carp jump from a stream near the Clinton Lake outlet park.

In this submitted photo from Pete Haack, asian carp jump from a stream near the Clinton Lake outlet park.

This is no fish story, it’s the real thing.

Last Friday morning Pete Haack and his wife, Emily, were out for a walk with their dogs Farley and Lucy at the Clinton Lake dog park.

The dogs led them to the Clinton Lake outlet park near the dam. There, they saw an interesting sight: hundreds of silver fish were jumping several feet out of the water at the base of the waterfall.

“Lucy jumped into the water to try to catch the fish, and she ended up going down the 4-foot waterfall,” Haack says. “In six years of going to the park, I’ve never seen anything like it.”

That morning, Pete had read a story in the Journal-World about these unusual fish known as Asian carp. The fish are generally about 10 inches long and can weigh between 10 and 60 pounds. While the jumping can be mysterious sight, the fish can pose a danger to boaters and fishermen, who could be targets for the fish.

Asian carp are also infesting Kansas waterways, crowding out native fish.

Pete and Emily Haack are professional photographers, operating So they returned to the dam on Saturday with a camera, a Canon 40D.

There again were the fish, putting on their jumping show.

“It was just bizarre,” Pete says.


Aiko 7 years ago

"10 inches long and can weigh between 10 and 60 pounds" What?

Vinny1 7 years ago

Don't let the LJWorld's crappy reporting/research get in your head.

These things can get up to 4 feet long and 100 lbs.

devobrun 7 years ago

It looks too silvery to me. Isn't this a type of Shad? The Asian Carp (diploid) in my pond are way more greenish-yellow and don't have the big eyes.

riverdrifter 7 years ago

Maybe your carp were genetically engineered. Sounds like it...

lknight_81 7 years ago

I believe you are talking about grass carp (Ctenopharyngodon idella). These are another species of asian carp. The article should have included something about Silver Carp...asain carp is kind of a generic name. Even the comon carp (yellow/orange ones) are 'asian carp'.

Asian carp=

common carp (Cyprinus carpio) grass carp (Ctenopharyngodon idella) silver carp (Hypophthalmichthys molitrix) bighead carp (Hypophthalmichthys nobilis)

riverdrifter 7 years ago

By most accounts, asian carp are good eating, not unlike black cod. You just have to fillet the bones out of them. I'd try that like filleting northern pike, also great eating but very boney unless carved out properly. This takes a damn good high-carbon fillet knife, very sharp yet highly flexible. I wish everything were like walleye, which I could fillet out with a cheap steak knife!

purplesage 7 years ago

I'm with Aiko. I'd like to see a 60 pound, 10 inch fish! The Asian Blimp.

Jonathan Kealing 7 years ago

Actually, this was after a reader's responded to a Wichita Eagle story that moved across the Associated Press wire and that we ran over the weekend.

Had nothing to do with the Star's article.

blindrabbit 7 years ago

Methinks they are gizzard shad; asian carp are shaped differently. Wish I was back in Washington State and these were silver salmon.

preebo 7 years ago

How cute, another invasive species...

blindrabbit 7 years ago

Gizzard shad are not an invasive species; smaller ones form the basis of the crappie and walleye food chain. These large ones (about 12" maximum) are just trying to get into the lake to spawn. Settle down folks, no panic needed. Great photography.

kscityrobber 7 years ago

go to the spillway and see if these are 12" max fish...high warning do not put these in the lake.. do some reasearch these fish are killing the great lakes.

lknight_81 7 years ago

If you don't know what you are talking about, you shouldn't post stuff like this. These are NOT gizzard shad. They are the invasive asian carp; these are probably silver carp (Hypophthalmichthys molitrix) but bighead carp (Hypophthalmichthys nobilis) are also in the Missouri River and are considered an invasive 'asian carp'. Some confusion has come about because some people think of grass carp as 'asian carp', which they are, but they are yet another species, (Ctenopharyngodon idella). This is probably what devobrun was referrring to. Grass carp are stocked into ponds to control the growth of aquatic vegetation. They are bred to be triploid and therefore (supposedly) sterile. The silver carp and bighead carp are reproduing and spreading like crazy. Still no need to panic, but at least please know what you are talking about. Thanks to the great photos it is very easy to see that these are NOT gizzard shad, very funny.

kscityrobber 7 years ago

amen....just think what would happen if someone took them to the lake side. people dont understand. these asian carp spawn twice a year. eggs hatch within 48 hours. do the math. not to mention trasporting these fish alive is a misdemenor..

SeaBee 7 years ago

As a longtime fisheries professional I'm curious as to how the presence of these fish in a lake environment might affect the dynamics of the system.

How would they affect the zooplankton and phytoplankton population dynamics? How would lacustrine mussel populations fare? Would they have a competitive affect on native buffalo and shad populations? Would they have an adverse affect on juveniles of game and forage fish populations? Would they even reproduce in non-flowing systems?

I haven't done any research into these matters as most occurrences of these species that I am aware of have been in "large" rivers (so far, at least). An interesting subject to follow up on!

kscityrobber 7 years ago

they also eat other live fish. so our native lil fish will be gone in no time. they populate way to fast.

Steven Farve 7 years ago

these are def. asian carp you can tell by the placement of their eyes and their color. These are great pics, but they reproduce multiple times a year and in great numbers.. I've seen schools of 100 plus at the spillway. They are filter feeders and can eat up to 40 percent of their body weight daily. Leaving little food for our natural species. These fish pretty much suck.

jonas_opines 7 years ago

I've got a great video of just a ton of these fish jumping around down there. There's at least 50 to 60 of them.

Jeremiah Jefferson 7 years ago

Better believe that if I catch one I will dispatch it with extreme predjudice.

kscityrobber 7 years ago

hey.... these fish make great blue cat bait. current world record blue just was caught of cut asian carp. its agianst the law to transport these alive though.

SeaBee 7 years ago

Note the prominent de-curved lateral line also.

Asian carp, either silver or bighead. No notable resemblence to gizzard shad other than the general body shape ("fishlike").

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