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Topeka police make arrest in connection with early morning shooting on Redbud Lane in Lawrence

Law enforcement officials work the scene of a shooting that occurred at a Lawrence apartment complex in the 2500 block of Redbud Lane, Monday, Oct. 11, 2010. The shooting, which happened shortly before 4:45 a.m. Monday, resulted in one man being airlifted to a Kansas City-area hospital.

Law enforcement officials work the scene of a shooting that occurred at a Lawrence apartment complex in the 2500 block of Redbud Lane, Monday, Oct. 11, 2010. The shooting, which happened shortly before 4:45 a.m. Monday, resulted in one man being airlifted to a Kansas City-area hospital.

October 11, 2010, 6:09 a.m. Updated October 11, 2010, 10:25 p.m.

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Lawrence man shot at Redbud Lane apartment complex

Lawrence police are investigating the scene of an early morning shooting in the 2500 block of Redbud Lane. Jon Clark, who lives at the apartment complex, described arriving home early Monday to find police in the area. Enlarge video

Victim transported to hospital after shooting

One victim was airlifted to a Kansas City-area hospital after suffering a gunshot wound in the 2500 block of Redbud Lane. Police investigated the scene early Monday morning. Enlarge video

Investigation continues into Redbud Lane shooting

Lawrence police continue to gather evidence here. They teamed with Topeka police on a standoff in the capital city, making arrests the Topeka police say are related to the shooting. Enlarge video

Detectives Zach Thomas, left, and Randy Glidewell work the scene of a shooting along a strip of apartment buildings in the 2500 block of Redbud Lane, Monday, Oct. 11, 2010. The shooting, which occurred shortly before 4:45 a.m. Monday resulted in one man being airlifted to a Kansas City hospital.

Detectives Zach Thomas, left, and Randy Glidewell work the scene of a shooting along a strip of apartment buildings in the 2500 block of Redbud Lane, Monday, Oct. 11, 2010. The shooting, which occurred shortly before 4:45 a.m. Monday resulted in one man being airlifted to a Kansas City hospital.

Law enforcement officials leave a police van with an evidence marker as they work the scene of a shooting at an apartment complex located in the 2500 block of Redbud Lane, Monday, Oct. 11, 2010. The shooting, which occurred shortly before 4:45 a.m. Monday, resulted in one man being airlifted to a Kansas City hospital.

Law enforcement officials leave a police van with an evidence marker as they work the scene of a shooting at an apartment complex located in the 2500 block of Redbud Lane, Monday, Oct. 11, 2010. The shooting, which occurred shortly before 4:45 a.m. Monday, resulted in one man being airlifted to a Kansas City hospital.

Redbud Lane Shooting

Topeka police officers arrested a man after a three-hour standoff in Topeka in connection with Monday's early morning shooting outside an apartment complex on Redbud Lane in Lawrence.

Topeka Police Lt. Dave Thomas said the Lawrence police asked for help in locating suspects in the incident, who they believed were at 2312 SE Virginia St.

"Based on information they had, they believed some or all of the persons involved could be at this location, so we went ahead and assisted them on a search warrant," Thomas said.

Police arrived on the scene about 3 p.m. Monday and negotiated with the man, who was not identified as of Monday night, until shortly after 6 p.m.

"We had ceased trying to talk to the individual in the house and were waiting on the warrant," Thomas said. "Once we all did arrive and replace those officers on the scene with the Response Team the subject came out on his own."

Thomas said several other subjects were taken into custody in connection with the arrest.

Lawrence police declined to confirm that the arrests related to Monday's shooting, which sent a Lawrence man to a Kansas City-area hospital via air ambulance. The 28-year-old underwent surgery but his condition was unknown Monday night.

Officers spent the day following leads into who shot the 28-year-old man, who was found wounded at 4:40 a.m. in a parking lot outside Park Plaza South Apartments in the 2500 block of Redbud Lane.

Sgt. Matt Sarna, a Lawrence police spokesman, said detectives were continuing to investigate but the lack of apparent witnesses was making it difficult.

“There aren’t a lot of people who are awake at that time in the morning,” Sarna said.

Darrell Thompson was asleep in the apartment complex when the shooting happened.

"I heard a gunshot, and then I heard someone say 'ugh.' I thought it was the TV," he said.

Thompson said the wounded man was taken on a stretcher from the corridor between the two apartment buildings.

Jon Clark, who lives in the apartment complex, said he arrived home from his newspaper delivery route Monday morning to find police in the area. Clark said he, his wife and his daughter have lived there since February.

“It makes me feel pretty uncomfortable about living here,” Clark said. “Obviously we’ve got a child, and I don’t want to raise my kids around anything like that.”

Sarna said officers do their best to patrol the area because it includes so many apartments and people living close together.

“We do try to put extra patrols out here, but with our call load and everything else, there’s only certain times that officers can be out in the areas and canvassing them,” Sarna said.

Police ask anyone with information about Monday morning’s shooting to call detectives at 785-830-7430 or Crime Stoppers at 785-843-TIPS.

Brenna Hawley and Syed Shabbir contributed to this story.

Comments

sacc00 4 years, 2 months ago

I live on redbud my apt is nice but the building across the street in constant problems. Just yesterday i saw a man just about get thrown over balcony. Yet its the same people who cause the problems. I believe this will now prompt me move elsewhere asap!!! Some police presence would be appreciated for those who have to live in that area!!

Amy Heeter 4 years, 2 months ago

I knew a girl who rented on Redbud. She got out as soon as she could. The police do patrol there but they can't be there all the time.

grammaddy 4 years, 2 months ago

This has gone on too long. Seems like the owners would be more selective about who they rent to.

snook3200 4 years, 2 months ago

they need to be like that all over, check the booking desk on the police department website, you dont see that many people getting arrested on the redbud area compared to downtown and other areas. People are greatly misinformed. Maybe people should look into the statistics before they just assume that lower class people live in this area. Instead of people that might be down on their luck and trying to stay from being homeless. Try that one.

grammaddy 4 years, 2 months ago

I've lived in Lawrence for 30 years and Redbud has always been a problem. I was advised to stay out of that area when looking for an apartment. There are people "down on their luck and trying to avoid homelessness" in Edgewood too but they're not shooting each other. Last Call was shut down because the owner didn't do enough to curb violence there. I'm just saying the landlord needs to check people out a little better. Seems like every other complex in town does a credit check, rental history check and criminal history check. Why can't Redbud.

snook3200 4 years, 2 months ago

if that is the case then why was there a shooting at the brand new apartment complex by walmart that does these checks and is a gated community. so explain that. Do these really keep you safe? NO. you may have lived here for 30 years but your expertise is not up to date. Being a jayhawker born and raised in the state of kansas, kids that are honor roll and and 4.0 Gpa college should not have to tollerate this or ignorance of the public.

Kyle Reed 4 years, 2 months ago

Uh...the shooter didn't live in the complex. He lived in the trailer court near there. Probably not the best example for your point.

snobunni21 4 years, 2 months ago

Yeah, maybe if they were more selective more people would be out on the streets which creates an even worse environment, and since people get shot on Redbud everyday I could see how this has just gone on WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY to long!!!!! Maybe if apartment management around the world was more selective and could predict who was going to be shooting someone else all the shootings across the world would stop, maybe they should invest in a crystal ball, why hasn't this been suggested before? Then the whole world could be perfect and everyone would love everyone!!!!!

LadyJ 4 years, 2 months ago

Is this the same apartment complex in this LJW article from 25 years ago " that at one time "The city had deemed the apartments unsafe for human habitation"? Shttp://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/oct/04/25-years-ago-work-promised-improve-apartments-dela/eems it is still "unsafe".

LadyJ 4 years, 2 months ago

Darn, couldn't get it to show up as a link.

fester0420 4 years, 2 months ago

yah 25 yrs ago is the key there. now they are fixed up and nice. i lived there for yrs and never had a problem. things can happen but its always some one who runs into some one who they don't like. they don't go looking for random people to mess with. you cant live your life scared or you will live a miserable existence

Jeremiah Jefferson 4 years, 2 months ago

Lawrence is giving Whitchita a run for its money.

sentinel4820 4 years, 2 months ago

According to the FBI's stats, Lawrence has the third highest crime rate in the State behind Wichita and Topeka....yes, that means Lawrence is worse off than Kansas City, Kansas.

snook3200 4 years, 2 months ago

yea but you sure dont hear about the shooting across town on the east side of lawrence where the man had to be air lifted. that sure doesnt make the paper but if anything goes on redbud it is all over the paper. This kind of stuff goes on everywhere. Crime is all over this town and is not getting better.

femmefatale 4 years, 2 months ago

When and where was someone shot on the east side?

Bill Lee 4 years, 2 months ago

Since when is 25th & Redbud "central" Lawrence?

slvrntrt 4 years, 2 months ago

Redbud could really use better lighting and numbering of their apartments. It may not help any of the more serious problems, but it would make it easier for the problems to be quickly identified.

There are some nice people that live there and I feel sorry for them because they probably didn't know what they got themselves in to.

snook3200 4 years, 2 months ago

you know i live down in this area, and my landlord is kind, and he does the best he can, but people like you give him no credit for what he does do for this community. So I would appreciate you people with negative feedback to check your resources before you point your fingers. What about the college kids that live downtown, and get raped and oui, dwi, domestic batteries and all this, the trailer court that had gun shots last year, that died real quick. but all the gossip and negativity about the bud will never cease due to the negativity of this community.

slvrntrt 4 years, 2 months ago

Better lighting won't hurt anyone. Getting robbed when I'm trying to deliver a pizza and can't read the apartment numbers definitely does hurt someone.

greenworld 4 years, 2 months ago

LJW- Can we get a name and age please? I know a few people that live there and am curious.

Jonathan Kealing 4 years, 2 months ago

We're working on it. Police have so far declined to release that information. Hopefully soon. At least an age and hometown.

George Diepenbrock 4 years, 2 months ago

The story has been updated because we just got this, but it's a 28-year-old Lawrence man. No name released yet.

BruceWayne 4 years, 2 months ago

question...why cant you just look at the DCSO booking report like EVERYONE else for suspect information?

robinhoodlum 4 years, 2 months ago

Moon bar, Last Call, Redbud, and others. In principal is there any difference? No, the common factors are poor business choices and lack of rule enforcement. The biggest difference is the City will take action to shut down a bar but will not bother with an apartment complex. They don't have a problem muscling into bars and rental houses but apartments get a free ride.

snobunni21 4 years, 2 months ago

If they shut down an entire apartment complex where would the families that inhibit them go, then everyone would be punished for someone elses poor choices......it's Lawrence not suburbia and this happens all over the world, no one including you is exempt from living in a place where violence occurs, it's a little term that has been coined as HUMAN NATURE!!!!

Adrienne Sanders 4 years, 2 months ago

I don't think the city has anything to do with whether the landlords do any kind of background check or anything before they let people move in.

snobunni21 4 years, 2 months ago

MOVE THEN.....it really is that easy!!!!!

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KEITHMILES05 4 years, 2 months ago

Why must LMH send out almost everything somewhat out of the ordinary? Do they not keep anything in town and treat? Sounds like a first aid station.

Adrienne Sanders 4 years, 2 months ago

If it were you who was critically injured, would you want to go to LMH? I wouldn't.

fester0420 4 years, 2 months ago

i would its better than any hospital in any big city ive been to

garyr 4 years, 2 months ago

KEITHMILES05 sound a bit like one of the old Gilchrist boys. He always complained about LMH. Is that you Mr. Gilchrist? Are you still an avid bike rider?

tanaumaga 4 years, 2 months ago

old man who still lives in his parents home

snobunni21 4 years, 2 months ago

Wow....has anyone ever heard that safety is an illusion???????? Did you think this couldn't possibly happen where you live......that's because you are naive, sheltered, and ignorant.......Lawrence is in no way ate up with crime go back Mayberry if Lawrence is just too dangerous for you!!!!! I'm sorry for the individual who got shot and my prayers are with him as well as his family and friends!!!!! Don't make ignorant comments, that you know nothing about I walk up and down Redbud almost everyday of my life in the day and night time, there may be the occasional fight or person yelling something from the balcony but this is a college town what do you expect??? If you mind your business and pull the stick out of your rectal area you will be fine!!!!!

Bursting 4 years, 2 months ago

hate to break it to you bunni, but i think most college students are too smart to live in that area...

CrystalKU 4 years, 2 months ago

I think the LJWorld needs to do a story on how much it would cost to create and operate a trauma center at LMH along with the accident statistics of how infrequently people are sent to a trauma center, maybe that would finally explain to people why it makes no sense to have a trauma center in a town the size of Lawrence.

KEITHMILES05 4 years, 2 months ago

Since this person was shot and had to be sent out to KC then I seriously doubt LMH is equipped for surgery of this type. With all the surgeons you list shouldn't they be able to do surgery? This is not something you send out. When surgery is needed with a GSW it's needed now, not later.

CrystalKU 4 years, 2 months ago

Since there is no explanation of where he was shot and the extent of his injuries, you cannot assume that it wasn't a neurological trauma, which would require the person to be sent out to a trauma center for all the reasons MacHealth listed above.

middlemgmt 4 years, 2 months ago

I've had 2 children. One at LMH and one at a huge kansas city hospital. My experence at LMH was WAY better! Doctors, Lactation department, nurses, everything was superior!

sad_lawrencian 4 years, 2 months ago

As a longtime Redbud Lane resident, I am tired of all the windbags badmouthing this street, the properties, the landlords and the people who live on it. We are not all criminals, ne'er-do-wells, miscreants, etc. I work at a major white-collar employer in Johnson County and make a very livable wage. I went to college and have a master's degree. So anyone badmouthing Redbud and the people who live on it need to understand that a few of us aren't bad. (In fact, I'd say the neighborhood has improved exponentially since I first moved here!)

malyksmom 4 years, 2 months ago

Wow, I feel that is really sad if you boast that you have a master's degree and make a "livable wage" yet you live at one of the most notorious apartment complexes for drug and criminal activity. Seems like you should be asking for your money back at the university you received your masters from...because obviously you didn't learn much. Have you ever heard the term" guilty by association?" Why would you even want to put yourself in a setting such as that and then claim that "a few of us aren't bad." People really should use think before they post things. Geez...

sad_lawrencian 4 years, 2 months ago

Unfortunately, we have ourselves another windbag! They just can't keep their mouths shut today.

Erin Graham 4 years, 2 months ago

Years back, completely oblivious at the time that there was a 'bad' part of Lawrence, I'd needed to move quickly and cheaply so I took a look at a complex in that vicinity. I waited for 45 minutes past my appointment time to check the place out, during which time I noticed a man staring out his window the entire time. I dismissed it and eventually the person from management showed up for the 'grand tour'. What a scummy, seedy place! But it was cheap and available...

There was a girl, college age, and her mom in the apartment packing her stuff up to move out. When I got done checking the place out, and the person from management left, the girls mother ran out the door to warn me about daughters experience there- the first week she was there there were gunshots all over the place. Police were involved. At some point there was a stabbing and apparently there's a prostitution ring?? The girl also was stalked and harassed by a man living nearby for a period of time. She documented and reported everything but management wouldn't do anything about it. I don't know what the legal details of something like that are, but single 20 yr old female living alone in that place... walking to and from campus every day...she's probably lucky nothing worse happened. And I'm absolutely grateful her mom stopped me before I made the same mistake.

scopi_guy 4 years, 2 months ago

At least this time "kitchen utensils" weren't involved.

PrettyTony 4 years, 2 months ago

I agree with sad lawrencian. All drug dealers pimps and hustlers aren't bad. Some of em' have good intentions.

garyr 4 years, 2 months ago

As well as great products and services!

Glenda Breese 4 years, 2 months ago

Leave them on redbud! They are at least not in my neighborhood! I concur about LMH...

malyksmom 4 years, 2 months ago

and LMH is NOT the place to go in a serious critical situation. Having a baby and enduring major trauma to the body from a gun wound....totally different things folks.

Derek Broksieck 4 years, 2 months ago

What was he doing outside at 4:40 a.m.? Nothing good happens after 12 p.m.

greenworld 4 years, 2 months ago

Nothing good happens after 12pm especially at Redbud. Probly more like 10pm at Redbud.

ToriFreak13 4 years, 2 months ago

The management companies that have managed the brick apartments on one half of Redbud have very strict guidelines. No criminal history, 600+ credit score, 2 year rental history, and verifiable income. This isn't about Redbud Ln, it's about lackadaisical parenting, kids dropping out of high-school...no future for them...lost on the streets scheming for a way to make a quick buck and taking out their life struggle on anyone that crosses them on a bad day.

4 years, 2 months ago

That happened right behind my house (on ridge, next block over). The gun shot woke my roommate up - he said he thinks he only heard one gun shot. I was asleep in the basement and didn't wake up. Pretty Crazy

CrystalKU 4 years, 2 months ago

Since there is no explanation of where he was shot and the extent of his injuries, you cannot assume that it wasn't a neurological trauma, which would require the person to be sent out to a trauma center for all the reasons MacHealth listed above.

CrystalKU 4 years, 2 months ago

Now I'm the jerk who double posts...sorry!

Randall Barnes 4 years, 2 months ago

ok scanner traffic said he was shot in the chest.so very critical area.lmh couldn't handle it even if a surgen was there

brother_cumulus 4 years, 2 months ago

I wanna be a doctor at LMH...I could just sit on my butt and pass off patients to KC

TopJayhawk 4 years, 2 months ago

LMH only treats that which will make them money. They have a long history of getting rid of all the rest.
They would be lost if it wasn't for the real hopitals in KC and Topeka.
Helps keep LMH from getting their hands dirty with real emergencies, and real life or death situations. I know of which I speak.

ferrislives 4 years, 2 months ago

Do we need to build a wall between Lawrence and Topeka? I'm starting to wonder.

53girl 4 years, 2 months ago

Wow! Love the comments today! A few years ago, we looked at an apartment on RedBud Lane for my son. During the day it was a great neighborhood and very pleasantly quiet. The evening we were finishing moving him in, all the zombies were coming out or the crack houses. It was scary!! No lights in the parking lot or stairs of the SECURITY building. Called Gage management maintenance. The guy told us they hadn't paid the electric bill for the complex and it had a lock on it. He broke it so the lights would come on. That should have been when we ran for our lives!

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