Archive for Wednesday, November 17, 2010

House in 1200 block of Pennsylvania Street to be razed

November 17, 2010


Commissioners unanimously agreed to move ahead with a demolition of a vacant house at 1200 Pa.

The out-of-state owner has conceded the dilapidated house needs to be removed but has said he can’t commit to the project. State law allows the city to tear the house down and recoup the costs by placing an assessment on the property. The demolition won’t occur until a 30-day waiting period has expired.


smitty 7 years, 5 months ago

What a dirty deal. For the city to force the demolition of this young man's inherited house(from his grand parents) without taking steps to clean up the real problems, not city employees desires for ownership, is a vast misapplication of the right to demolish property.

On that same block there are two houses that are totally junked out. One has several tarps on the roof, front and back yards completely stacked with trash. The tax role owners.....

Second house that is totally trashed out is owned by......

....the same people that bought the trashed out 2 acres on E 1500....Scooters tree service and meth conspiracy property. What a laugh to sell that one to a couple of junkers.

Both of these properties are junked out, safety hazards, cover for nuisance animals, one does not have any utilities but yet the owners allows for a man to camp there year round.

The house at 1200 Penn was kept mowed, cleaned up, & boarded up.

But the neighbors to 1200 Penn want the corner lot for their own so they started this complaint process.....

...A city employee.

On the 1100 block there are a couple of houses that should be cited, too. Broken down cars in the back yard along with dilapidated furniture and the front porch is piled high with furniture and junk.

Then there is the old furniture store that the new buyers have completely junked out, tore out the shade trees, tore up the concrete, block the side walk, and invite everyone in east Lawrence to join in their endeavor to turn it into a permaculture corner. I suggest they learn to organize and stow the renovation trash in that double garage and fenced in area. That coner hsn't been junked out for over forty years until now. sad very sad

Complaint oriented enforcement without equal application to all. This isn't a car parked on the grass, it's taking a young man's grandparents home from him due to the neighbor who works for the city and complained in an attempt to force condemnation.

Why just a naive young man who doesn't know how to deal with his inheritance over all those that are obvious in making east Lawrence a junky neighborhood?

Brian Hall 7 years, 5 months ago

Yes, it's all a huge conspiracy. Mr. Morris, the property owner, filed for demolition permits on June 1, 2010 but didn't follow through in securing the permits. In fact, the city notified Mr. Morris in 2008 about the house and he said that once the house went through probate and he became the owner he would demolish the house.

From what I can tell he doesn't want the house--it's not worth it to fix up and if he just sold the property the house would probably be torn down anyway. So who cares? And there's a lot of houses in Old West and East Lawrence that look pretty junky but more than likely it is still a decent, livable house that needs some minor repairs and a paint job. I looked at the pictures of this house and it needed more than just some new trim and paint.

smittee 7 years, 5 months ago

Why are you so angry at your neighbors smitty. Most of us choose to live in East Lawrence because we like it. And its somewhat affordable. Many of us enjoy the diversity of the of the people, its unique housing(including city housing), the not so normal aspects of life. Our neighborhood is tolerant of peoples choices. You are a good example of how our community practices tolerance. Many of us have witnessed you walking your dog on many occasions you seam nice enough. Then every once and a while Ill be inside working away and hear screaming outside, I jump up and run outside to see what terrible atrocity that has surly happened and see if I need to lend a hand, like most east Lawrence folks would do. Only to observe you screaming at someone in the neighborhood for what appears something less than an emergency. You are the only one who I have witnessed exhibiting this behavior outside some real situations, like a house on fire, some criminal act, or back a few years age when some of the crack houses were causing trouble. So tomorrow or the next day or the next time I here a scream outside and its you, I will still come to see what terrible atrocity may be happening to you... I like most others will still help you if you need.

hoodlum 7 years, 5 months ago

i guess some people have trashy houses or trash on their property that other people are inadvertently bothered by, and other people have trash in their psyche and put their trash all over the internet and inadvertently bother people. You seem to be in the latter camp, Smitty, and though you aren't breaking any rules, many people have expressed that your judgment and behavior is regrettable. I'd rather have nice neighbors with trashy houses, in fact, where I'm from, that's the norm and life is good. When relationships are sour like the toxicity you're sowing here, that's when quality of life diminishes in my judgment, not when the neighbor's car goes up on blocks. I see you posting out of fostered resentment and personal pain as the most obvious motivation to me. You can make a different choice.

hoodlum 7 years, 5 months ago

You just dissed a lot of valuable members of the East Lawrence neighborhood. Maybe you really just have a problem with poor people instead of "junk." Maybe you ought to keep to West Lawrence where things (& populace) have been "cleaned up" so to speak, i.e. totally gentrified. So what this absentee owner is losing that ground? That house isn't economically salvageable, and the asbestos piles have been sitting in the yard for years, meanwhile the one responsible is in fact unresponsive to the neighborhood. Why the lopsided sob story for this kid, meanwhile the condemnations of the others? What's your stake in it?

frank regnier 7 years, 5 months ago

I heard a neighbor say that the siding contained asbestos and was reported to the city. Nothing was done and no haz mat team ever showed up. I guess asbestos is no longer a threat to your health.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 5 months ago

No, I criticized you for doing exactly the same thing that you accused others of doing.

Cleaning up the neighborhood is a fine goal.

But that doesn't appear to be what you want. You want to find some culprit for a perceived wrong that doesn't affect you in the least, and you chose to lash out at others on the block simply because they are there. You decided that somehow they must be guilty of some ill-defined offense from your self-appointed position as judge and jury. (will executioner be next?)

Grow up, smitty.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 5 months ago

"I'm with the above comment that there need be a block by block effort to cite and correct the offenders."

Fine. But if that's your position, complaining about the selective enforcement against one neighbor's code violations by singling out a couple of other neighbor's (supposed) violations is no way to go about it. To me that doesn't indicate a desire to correct what you call a neighborhood-wide problem. It indicates your own desire for selective enforcement. I can only guess what your criteria are.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 5 months ago

I wouldn't do it by lashing out at people who had absolutely nothing to do with what you're ostensibly complaining about.

Your expressions of concern for this property owner here are completely disingenuous. You couldn't care less about him. Your goal is to further whatever your personal agenda is against these other property owners. And that's just plain petty and childish.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 5 months ago

You're "allowed" to say most anything you want, within certain bounds.

But that doesn't make you any less petty, childish, or disingenuous.

DustyAcres 7 years, 5 months ago

If Smitty knew so much about Mr. Morris, why didn't you direct him to the city agency that would help with the asbestos removal. You obviously don't know anything about the people that own the other houses. I know one of the owner's and they are good hard working people. It's probably an LPD conspiricy anyway. Right.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 5 months ago

Then ask for that, rather than singling out one or two other properties that you have judged to be worthy of further selective enforcement.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 5 months ago

I've made my point-- your whining is to further whatever personal agenda you have. You couldn't care less about "cleaning up the neighborhood."

DustyAcres 7 years, 5 months ago

Sorry that I make you..cough gag laugh. Yes, I'm a first time poster but I've been reading the LJW on line for quite a while. How do you know the other houses are in worse shape than the one at 1200 Penn. Have you been in them. Just because you think there is too much "junk" around the outside doesn't mean there is anything structually wrong with the houses. And you are the one that seems to bring up the LPD on a lot of unrelated articles.

RaynRavyn 7 years, 5 months ago

Lol, ummmm... 1600 Pennsylvania would be the Whitehouse. Appears THAT one went a little high. I kinda doubt a city employee's complaint would do much toward that particular eviction... :)

deec 7 years, 5 months ago

On this issue, I agree with Smitty, because it happened to me. We were in litigation with the city over ownership of our house in East Lawrence. There was a fire, and I think the city tore the house down within a week or ten days. Then the lot was sold/given to one of the city-approved low/moderate housing programs in vogue at that time.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 5 months ago

You agree with smitty that the way to stop selective enforcement is to single out other nearby houses for selective enforcement?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 5 months ago

"It's only a start to begin with the shakers and movers"

So, you admit that your motivation is to strike against particular individuals, and not a concern about "cleaning up the neighborhood."

deec 7 years, 5 months ago

I am jusy saying that the city does selectively enforce the codes. They wanted our lot and they got it. The structural issues with the house were the exact same problems for which the city had issued one of those low-moderate improvement loans about a decade before, and for which the city had paid some incompetent contractor to fix. The loan and "repair" occurred prior to our interest in the house. The house was damaged in the fire, but was not in danger of immediately falling down, yet it was torn down by the city in a week or ten days. I am agreeing with Smitty that there is a great deal of corruption in city government, and selective code enforcement is one of the tools used in that corruption.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 5 months ago

I don't disagree with any of what you say. But none of the property owners smitty singled out had anything to do with the demolition of the property at 1200 Pennsylvania ordered by the city. She could have merely said that there are nearby properties that are in technical violation of city codes. But she chose instead to personally attack them, which can only lead to the conclusion that her intent was personal attack, not fixing a problem with the city's enforcement.

jogger 7 years, 5 months ago

Unless the city code violations do not lead to a transfer of property rights, they will be continually abused by land vultures. Better to change the process and offer assistance to the owner than to allow the system to be abused.

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