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Rove speech cut short by anti-war protesters

March 31, 2010

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— Anti-war protesters have heckled former White House political adviser Karl Rove off the stage at his book signing in Beverly Hills.

About 100 Rove supporters watched Monday as Code Pink co-founder Jodie Evans walked toward him with handcuffs, calling him a war criminal and saying she was making a citizen’s arrest.

Ten protesters in all repeatedly interrupted Rove’s talk at the Saban Theatre as he promoted his memoir, “Courage and Consequence: My Life As a Conservative in the Fight.”

Rove says the allegation that the Bush administration lied about weapons of mass destruction “is a pernicious political attack launched by cynical and hypocritical individuals.”

There were no arrests.

Comments

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 5 months ago

Rove says the allegation that the Bush administration lied about weapons of mass destruction“is a pernicious political attack launched by cynical and hypocritical individuals.”


Sounds like a succinct description of Rove's entire career.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 5 months ago

The Dwead Piwate Wove is waughing at your impotent wage.

Rex Russell 5 years, 5 months ago

We'll probably never know the true and full extent of the misinformation and malevolence of Mr. Rove. He is. like many in Washington, devoid of any solid ethics and morality. He had his own special brand, though. I'll give him credit for being a master of political manipulation and spin. Probably the best I've seen in my lifetime. But if that is the pinnacle of his lifetime acheivements, that's just sad. I have the same feelings for Mr. Rove and Fred Phelps. A mix of pity and disgust.

jaywalker 5 years, 5 months ago

Is sierraclub being sarcastic or just whacked out of their mind?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 5 months ago

"Why is Code Pink still after Bush people?"

Perhaps because Rove has written a book, heaping more lies upon lies?

Moderateguy 5 years, 5 months ago

So where were the FBI and DHS folks? Oh, that's right; only conservatives can be "terrorists." Violence advocated by either side is absolutely wrong. I just find it interesting that it's simple to paint all members of the tea party movement as uneducated, lead by the nose, redneck racists, but people that shut down a book signing are somehow noble.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 5 months ago

No violence was threatened or committed, moderateguy-- and a wholly theatrical attempt to arrest someone directly responsible for the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people and the subversion of the US Constitution and democratic process doesn't seem all that radical to me.

Keith 5 years, 5 months ago

The smartest thing Shrub ever did was nickname this guy "Turd Blossom".

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 5 months ago

I bet you say the same thing to Elie Wiesenthal, eh, Tom?

georgiahawk 5 years, 5 months ago

Tom, are you still on the porch, in your rocking chair, throwing cats at the neighbors and yelling for the kids to get off your lawn? You crazy cat-man!

cowboy 5 years, 5 months ago

Lawrence man falls over edge...

All of your above posted heroes put themselves up for criticism by running their mouths publicly. It is in fact how they make their living and as such they are open for criticism. I will give Bush one credit , he has remained relatively silent after leaving office unlike the rest of the ilk that surrounded him. Remember Tom we had to endure 8 effing years of the moron party in power. You should get some meds seriously because you are just into year one of an 8 year Obama run. Don't want the next headline to read

Lawrence man's head explodes

jaywalker 5 years, 5 months ago

"Perhaps because Rove has written a book, heaping more lies upon lies?"

Read it, have you?

"...someone directly responsible for the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people..."

Aaah. I love the smell of hyperbole in the morning. It smells like.............bull Store High In Transit.

"... and the subversion of the US Constitution and democratic process doesn't seem all that radical to me."

Hmm. You talkin' about what's transpired over the last couple months?

Moderateguy 5 years, 5 months ago

I think I need to change my screen name. Do you think "hardworking, middle class, agnostic, libertarian, non-pot head guy" is too many letters? The left has moved too far to the left for me to feel like a "moderate" anymore.

somedude20 5 years, 5 months ago

"You leftist Bush-hating zealots need to get over Rove/Bush/Cheney."

Those "people" were such horrible POS that they should be talked about so that their history does not repeat! What they did to the world, THE WORLD, has not even been fully felt yet

outtatowntownie 5 years, 5 months ago

Excuse me, Tom... Who was in the news last week for spitting on and using racial and homosexual epithets towards American congressmen? I think it's very telling that these kinds of attacks automatically start coming from people in the far right camp when they get in a big, comfortable group together. Spitting on someone is legally assault. Coming at someone with handcuffs, no so much. I see the far right at the "tea party" rallies, and I am very concerned that the pitchforks and torches will not be far behind.

Ann Coulter: Was not abused or threatened, but was warned by Canada that her brand of American free speech is not protected the same way in that country. No threat, just honesty. Note that she didn't go, so I assume that she's incapable of curtailing her hate speech even to avoid arrest in a foreign country. I hope she goes on a lecture tour in Iran.

Rove: Not abused. Protested. Threatened with citizen's arrest, yes, but as stated above, this was a theatrical move.

Palin: All I get when I google "Palin threatened" is "Alaskan Opponents Of Palin Threatened" and "Palin Threatened To Fire Librarian For Not Helping Ban Books". When I google "Palin abused", I get "Troopergate Report: Palin Abused Power". If you're talking about the flack over the "don't retreat, reload" comment she made... that's not abuse or a threat. It's discourse and disagreement.

cowboy 5 years, 5 months ago

I would like to have been a fly on the wall when Freedom Works , Americans for Prosperity , PR and lobbying effort ideas were hatched by Dick Armey and friends.

" OK , we'll pour a ton of money into publicizing and setting up this grass rootie tootie thing. We'll get the yahoo's all riled up and supply them with flags and misspelled signs and sic em on washinton. This will make great TV on Fox and crap we'll just sit back and watch it unfold.

Truth is this whole movement was contrived by rich outcasts and the insurance industry and they have used the repub fringe to fight a proxy war. Time will tell but this is probably one of the biggest "movement scams " of all time.

grammaddy 5 years, 5 months ago

Nancy Tom- we'll get over the Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsy fiasco when our country gets past the damage they did. Coulter was not threatened or abused. She was warned that Canada does not consider "Hate speech" to be one of it's freedoms.Talk about a zealot. You keep it up though. Can't wait to watch the Regurgican party implode. No one understands you but yourself. The rest of us are damned tired of your right wingnut mumbo jumbo.You better believe I'm hopeful for the next election, can't wait to prove you wrong.

Blessed4x 5 years, 5 months ago

I can't wait to hear the liberals that attacked town hall participants for yelling and shouting down the pol's coming out in Rove's defense. They will do this right? 'Cause otherwise it's pretty hypocritical. They wouldn't be that way, would they? Would they?

a_flock_of_jayhawks 5 years, 5 months ago

Blessed4x, Form my point of view, it is not a civil manner that lends itself to public discourse. That said, there is a huge difference between a civilian promoting a book that has views and positions that are highly suspect and debatable and an elected official attempting to connect with their constituents. One is official business for the benefit of the American people - all the people, not just a few misguided protesters - and the other is not. Those that seek to disrupt official business bear the blame for interfering with that business. Clearly, that was not the case in the Rove matter.

yourworstnightmare 5 years, 5 months ago

When one has systematically lowered the level of debate in this country as Rove has done, it should be no surprise when the level of debate has been degraded.

Turnabout is fair play.

Tough binkies for the right wing. They cry like babies when the same tactics they have promulgated are used against them.

Waaaa waaaaa friggin' waaaaaaa. Cry-baby right wingers.

Take to the streets, teabaggers! Take your country back from our black president Barack Hussein Obama. Revolution! Rebel! Lame!

Flap Doodle 5 years, 5 months ago

Isn't it amazing how quickly Cindy Sheehan fell off the nightly news after she wasn't needed as a club to bash the President?

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

Sadly, this just gives Rove more publicity for his book. Can't say I support their tactics.

Amazing that this story gets more play than a bunch of right-wingers who want to kill cops in order to start their war against the government. It is telling about those who come to their defense or compare them as equals to a bunch of college thespian students shouting peace at a book signing.

ferrislives 5 years, 5 months ago

The funny thing is that he left without signing any books for those who waited for him. I guess he only likes it when pro-Rove people are around him, and he cannot handle challenge from anyone. What a wanker.

gogoplata 5 years, 5 months ago

Antiwar!!! People who lied us into a war should be heckled.

MyName 5 years, 5 months ago

Protesting during a speech of some rich old white guy pimping his worthless book does not equal terrorism. The fact that I have to point this out to people like Tom shows how far off from reality they are.

And I think it's pretty telling when the people who want to yell at the guy outnumber the people who want to hear about his book so much that he has to stop his speech. I guess it sucks not having any "Free Speech Zones" to ship these guys off to now that your old boss is out of office.

waltersobchek 5 years, 5 months ago

I read about this days ago on CNN. Why the delay LJW?

Jeff Cuttell 5 years, 5 months ago

TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…

You leftist Bush-hating zealots need to get over Rove/Bush/Cheney. He, like Palin, no longer serves in a public capacity. Do you understand that? I thought Obama was your "hope" and "change" but after almost 1 1/2 years (Dem congress for 3 1/2 years) I still hear the same old whining and it's ridiculous. I thought you guys were all about the future, but I've never seen people who dwell on the past like you nuts do. Eternally miserable? Sure looks like it. You get your hands on the money of the wealthy, or Rove or Bush in jail and you'd still whine and cry about something else. Get a life.

Because it still hurts, that's why. And the Righties keep throwing lies out there totry to make people think the country is only NOW falling apart. Truth is, we now have people trying to do the RIGHT thing for humanity and not what is best for themselves and their accomplices.

a_flock_of_jayhawks 5 years, 5 months ago

Tom says... "He, like Palin, no longer serves in a public capacity. Do you understand that? I thought Obama was your "hope" and "change" but after almost 1 1/2 years (Dem congress for 3 1/2 years) I still hear the same old whining and it's ridiculous. I thought you guys were all about the future, but I've never seen people who dwell on the past like you nuts do."

Because the big, steaming pile of crap left behind is still being cleaned up while the current set of GOP demagogues do their best to idle the shovels.

Do you understand that?

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

So the right forms a militia to do battle against the Anti-Christ, while the left just show up at his book signing to heckle him.

gogoplata 5 years, 5 months ago

Right vs Left. Left against Right. Blah, Blah, Blah.

Wake up people. We basically have a one party big government system because the differences in the parties to amount to squat. Remember both Bush and Obama gave us bailouts.

You can keep on being a part of the current system of help figure out a better way.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 5 months ago

The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More ... Mar 7, 2008 ... All told, the bill for the Iraq war is likely to top $3 trillion. ... and strong countries squander trillions of dollars at their peril.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/07/AR2008030702846.html

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/29/exclusive_the_three_trillion_dollar_war

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article3419840.ece

BigAl 5 years, 5 months ago

TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says… How much time DO you lefties, Obama, Pelosi and Reid need to keep blaming your F-ups on Bush? Another year? Two? Three? God forbid for Obama-four solid years of "It's Bush's fault!?


Tom, what F-ups are you referencing? The bailouts? Started by Bush. Iraq? Started by Bush. Afgahnistan? Pretty much ignored by Bush?

Obama is put in the position of fixing Bush's F-ups. That is a simple fact. I know you don't like it and I know you don't want to hear it but there it is.
I tend to think that the Obama administration has avoided an all out depression brought on by the previous administration. You may not like the methods but things do appear to be turning.

I realize you won't see or hear any of this from the corrupt right wing media but facts are facts.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 5 months ago

Occupying another country then building 50 bases,then going back to Afghanistan then moving Special Forces into Iran,Pakistan and Yemen is one huge multi trillion dollar money hole.

Then sitting back and watching the financial institutions approve home loans to unqualified buyers is one more nail in the coffin of the economy.

Putting 11 million out of jobs is dumb economics = another nail

Yes all three belong to Bush/Cheney

The next domino looking to fall is commercial real estate: Subprime 2.0 strategy: "Extend and pretend" February 11, 2010 5:06pm by Emma Saunders

Between 2010 and 2014, $1,400bn US commercial real estate loans will reach the end of their terms. Nearly half of them are currently in negative equity—that is, the borrower owes more than the property is worth. And banks are reducing the number of loans in the sector, and have been doing so throughout 2009.

More shocking is that banks and their auditors are typically well aware of the problem, but have not written down the value of property as prices have fallen. Instead they are "extending and pretending"—or "delaying and praying": holding property values steady and assisting the borrowers where possible. They need to. If banks were accurately to record property values, they would write down assets on their own balance sheets and jeopardise their business (see example to right).

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/blog/2010/02/commercial-real-estate-extend-and.html

gogoplata 5 years, 5 months ago

Lloyd: My party is better than your party.
Harry: Is not. Lloyd: Is too. Harry: Is not. Lloyd: Is too. Quitsies. Harry: Anti-quitsies, my party is better, quitsies, no anti-quitsies, no startsies! Lloyd: You can't do that! Harry: Can too! Lloyd: Cannot, stamp it! Harry: Can too, double stamp it, no erasies! Lloyd: Cannot, triple stamp, no erasies, Touch blue make it true. Harry: No, you can't do that... you can't triple stamp a double stamp, you can't triple stamp a double stamp! Lloyd! Lloyd: [hands over ears] LA LA LA LA LA LA! Harry: LLOYD! LLOYD! LLOYD!

a_flock_of_jayhawks 5 years, 5 months ago

Pilgrim2 (anonymous) says… "I wonder what your reaction would have been had someone tried to citizens arrest and/or shout down David Axelrod. And how is this any different than Tea Party participants shouting at looney left members of Congress?"

David Axelrod is not an elected official. If people don't like what Axelrod is doing in his current role, the proper place to go to correct that is to his boss, the President. In interfacing outside of the administration, he usually deals with the media, who almost exclusively gather and report the news rather than make news (Fox Newsertainment being the exception). Another difference is that it is a pretty safe bet that most of the shouts from TPers were directed at Congress members of other districts than the ones the TPers live and vote in.

TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says… "How much time DO you lefties, Obama, Pelosi and Reid need to keep blaming your F-ups on Bush?"

If the GOP were to start helping shovel the crap and get to scrubbing the W off, it would happen sooner. Until that happens, it will be slower, more of it will still be there, and it will continue to stink. But that's up to the GOP and they've calculated that it's more important to work the phone in hope of getting a date with Ms. TeaParty tonight (try to score political points) rather than grab a shovel and pitch in. So are you going to blame the people shoveling or the people sitting on the porch scheming and complaining?

MyName 5 years, 5 months ago

@Pilgrim:

OK, nine months into the Bush administration, shackled by the intelligence gathering rules left behind by the Clinton administration, we have 9/11, and the looney left says it's all Bush's fault.

OK, first of all these weren't intelligence gathering "rules", it was U.S. law, reaffirmed by every U.S. President since WWII and set aside by a group of power hungry idiots in the last administration. Second, I don't recall anyone with half a brain blaming Bush for the worst intelligence failure since Pearl Harbor, anymore than I remember reading about anyone blaming Roosevelt.

But the administration's response, including attempting to legalize torture, suspending U.S. laws against spying on its own citizens, sending us to Iraq to track down non-existent WMDs, and basically pissing away both the surplus he had coming in, and any goodwill we had after 9/11, was a disaster that people are still, rightly, angry about. Not to mention the fact that his (and especially Cheney's) ideas about "security" have done more to hurt actual U.S. freedom than any imaginary pinko-commie "plot" that even McCarthy could have dreamed up while not doing much to make the U.S. actually, you know, secure.

And I haven't even talked about the way he handled the economy.

somedude20 5 years, 5 months ago

As a kid I had Tom and Jerry, as a semi adult, I now have Tom and Barry. Thanks guys! You are good for more laughs than those cartoons any day

beatrice 5 years, 5 months ago

somedude, that is a very wise observation. Tom and Barry -- lol

Tom, couldn't help but notice that you didn't name any of the major blunders made by Obama.

yourworstnightmare 5 years, 5 months ago

Rove spent his career systematically lowering the level of debate in this country. It should come as no surprise when the level of debate has been degraded.

Rove's attack dog has turned and bitten him on the arse.

This is really a tough binky for the right wing to suck. They cry like babies when the same tactics they have promulgated are used against them.

Cry, baby right wingers, cry. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Take to the streets, teabaggers! Take your country back from our black president Barack Hussein Obama. Revolution! Rebel! Join Hutaree! Waaa waaaaa waaaaaa!

Liberty275 5 years, 5 months ago

I wonder if * will cut and paste what I wrote about protest being protest regardless of the words, the validity of the words or who spoke the words. Kudos code pink, you have once again shown America the hatred that drives the left. Keep it coming.

Also, I expect you Lawrence guys on the left to continue protesting Afghanistan and Iraq. I haven't seen you in a while and it's starting to make me wonder what exactly you were protesting. America is forgetting! Remind us!

At least cindy sheehan and her crowd has the guts to call obama a war cruminal. Lawrence liberals, man your protests and fight the good fight!

"WASHINGTON (March 21, 2010)--Anti-war protesters marched Saturday through Washington, D.C., to urge an immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.

U.S. Park Police arrested at least eight of the protesters at the end of the march, after laying coffins at a fence outside the White House. Many directed their anger at President Barack Obama, including activist Cindy Sheehan who shouted: "Arrest that war criminal!" through a bullhorn." kwtx.com

independentthinker 5 years, 5 months ago

!!! Support The Troops ~ they fight for Our Freedom !!!

fight against the extreme rightwing propaganda machine ... boycott the fox channel: all the programs - all the time.

spread the word. ~ Thank You ~

jaywalker 5 years, 5 months ago

gogoplata (anonymous) says… Antiwar!!! People who lied us into a war should be heckled.

Big Al (anonymous) says.... Tom, what F-ups are you referencing? The bailouts? Started by Bush. Iraq? Started by Bush. Afgahnistan? Pretty much ignored by Bush?

MyName (anonymous) says.... But the administration's response... sending us to Iraq to track down non-existent WMDs,...

Heavy sigh. So many ill informed, so little time......

http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/jj156/Leonard_Gump/?action=view&current=dems-wmd-before-iraq.flv

jaywalker 5 years, 5 months ago

That's what you got from that clip, porch? Why, that's shocking. Usually you're so insightful, rational, and intellectual............ (laughter) (retch) (laughter)

You can stop now, porch. You're easily the biggest horse's ass on this board. You took bozo's title a looong time ago.

yourworstnightmare 5 years, 5 months ago

Jesus shewmon. Come up with your own childish insults instead of stealing mine. Are you too stupid to come up with your own, or are you a thief?

Btw our president, Barack Hussein Obama is a black man.

Revolution, teabaggers! Take back our country! Hutaree! Rebel! Piss and moan like a spoiled, petulant child!

jayhawklawrence 5 years, 5 months ago

If they ever prove that Rove outed a CIA agent and caused the imprisonment or death of anyone associated with her I think he should be tried for treason and sent to prison for a very long time.

Anyone who would do that to advance his political agenda is a traitor and possibly murderer.

How is it possible that in my America there are politicians promoting torture of prisoners of war?

And the Republican Party defends them.

It is no wonder the American people are not very happy with the Republican Party. You can call people all the names you want and label them with the name socialist, communist, leftist or whatever, but it doesn't change the fact that people just don't like your brand anymore.

a_flock_of_jayhawks 5 years, 5 months ago

Pilgrim2 (anonymous) says… "Neither is/was Karl Rove an elected official. He held the same position in the Bush White House that Axelrod holds now. So the difference is... ?"

Rove's a civilian.

independant1 5 years, 5 months ago

As memory serves, the Vietnam war ended (or was lost, depends on one's view) when Congress refused to fund it.

All spending bills begin n the House.

Pres. Obama, about the only senator that did not vote 'Yay' for the Iraq war, gets credit.

That's why I luv this country! It's my fav!

America is a land of opportunity and don’t ever forget it. (Will Rogers)

jaywalker 5 years, 5 months ago

"What's funny is that you made such a big deal about how ignorant gogoplata, Big Al and MyName were and in reality,....."

What's "funny" is how twisted you are, porch. Never said (nor "made such a big deal about how ignorant....) anyone was. Said they were "ill-informed". Your ignorance? Now that's a given. Nor was that link supposed to be proof of WMD's in Iraq, moron. Just shows that Bush was far from alone and that the rallying cry behind the notion that Iraq had WMD's was begun during Clinton's term and parroted by all the Dem leadership, as that video clearly shows. Here's a page from the porchie playbook, one of the more immature tactics you like to wield: I would have thought you knew W. wasn't in office in '98. I would have thought you knew that the vote to go to war w/ Iraq was overwhelmingly bi-partisan. I would have thought you knew both Clintons, Reid, Pelosi, Biden, Edwards, et al. were laying the groundwork for war w/ Iraq before W. ever became a candidate for the White House.

(LAUGHTER)

yourworstnightmare 5 years, 5 months ago

Turnabout is fair play, right wing cry-babies.

You squeal like colicky infants when tactics that you promulagated are used against you.

Tough binkies.

Only an idiot would complain that the level of discourse has been diminished after spending 20+ years diminishing the level of discourse.

Rebel, teabaggers. The president, Barack Hussein Obama is black! Take back your country! Hutaree! revolution! Lame!

Ricky_Vaughn 5 years, 5 months ago

gogoplata (anonymous) says… Antiwar!!! People who lied us into a war should be heckled. ============== Agreed.

Liberty275 5 years, 5 months ago

"You squeal like colicky infants when tactics that you promulagated are used against you."

Hey, that will come in handy for the next Phelps argument! Kudos to you, MyWorstNightmare!

jaywalker 5 years, 5 months ago

"You have a real problem with being caught doing something "ill-considered".":

Riiight. And you have a real problem maintaining proper dosage. Repeat after me:

Even though I THINK I'm cured now, I MUST continue to take my meds.

Even though I THINK I'm cured now, I MUST continue to take my meds.

Even though I THINK I'm cured now, I MUST continue to take my meds.

a_flock_of_jayhawks 5 years, 5 months ago

Pilgrim2 (anonymous) says… "Axelrod is not? He's not in the military and he's not elected. So the difference is... ?"

I think you are just being facetious again. Axelrod is a civil servant and serves as Senior Advisor to the President, an executive branch role that was established as a formal position by the Bush administration. As you may already know, there are a good number of officials in our government that are not in the military and are not elected. Rove is not.

If one were to have an issue with Rove's public service, some issues that come to mind are his role in the Plame affair, dismissal of U S Attorneys, and the missing White House e-mails that reflect poorly on his public service and for which no legitimate explanation has been given.

So, do you have an issue with those that serve the people being held accountable?

Richard Heckler 5 years, 5 months ago

Approximately 11,000 americans have lost their lives as a result of 9/11/01.

When is enough?

jaywalker 5 years, 5 months ago

"At this late date, you actually argued that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when we invaded."

??? What is wrong with you? Seriously? Exactly how disturbed are you? Where, in any thing I said, did I argue that Iraq had WMD's?

Dude, seek help. It's in everyone's best interest.

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