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Parking violators take issue with $50 fine

A Lawrence parking meter officer checks vehicles in the parking lot behind the Eldridge Hotel at 7th and Vermont St. in this file photo.

A Lawrence parking meter officer checks vehicles in the parking lot behind the Eldridge Hotel at 7th and Vermont St. in this file photo.

March 30, 2010


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Downtown parking violations more costly

The penalty for multiple parking tickets downtown is getting more expensive. Drivers with five or more tickets in a 30-day period will be hit with $50 tickets. Enlarge video

Don’t tell Donnie Kern that a parking ticket in downtown Lawrence doesn’t have any bite.

Kern got two of them in one day when she was at her job as a server at Genovese. Each ticket came with a $50 fine, well above the normal $3 penalty.

“I couldn’t believe it,” Kern said. “I pretty much worked for free that day.”

The high-priced tickets are part of a revived program at Lawrence City Hall that aims to crack down on “habitual” parking violators — defined as motorists who have had five or more parking tickets in the previous 30 days.

The new effort — which has produced 122 tickets since March 10 — has aroused a wave of concern from downtown employees and some business owners. Jeremy Furse — owner of Britches Clothing, 843 Mass. — has circulated a petition asking city commissioners to repeal the $50 fine provision. By Monday afternoon Furse had collected about 425 signatures and still had picked up only half of the petitions.

“I’m fighting this because I just feel that it is far too punitive,” Furse said. “It is far too punitive for residents of downtown, too punitive for employees, and heaven forbid one should get on a customer’s car. I don’t think they would ever come back to downtown.”

But some downtown businesses are on board with the new tickets. Jane Pennington, director of Downtown Lawrence Inc., said there’s a need for the policy.

“I know there are difficulties in parking for employees,” Pennington said. “But our attitude is that the best places should be reserved for our customers, and if it takes an ordinance like this to ensure that, then we need to do that.”

Furse said he also doesn’t want to do anything to make it more likely that employees will park in prime spots along Massachusetts Street or in two-hour lots along Vermont and New Hampshire. But he said the city’s new policy is punishing employees who are trying to do the right thing. He said an employee of his received a $50 ticket for overparking in a five-hour meter along Vermont Street.

“It is hard to work downtown and not get a few tickets in a month,” Furse said. “You get busy with customers and you just aren’t able to go put more money in.”

He said the situation has gotten worse since the city temporarily closed a 10-hour parking lot as part of an expansion of the Carnegie Library building at Ninth and Vermont streets.

Pennington said she likely would support the city temporarily suspending the higher fines for the 800 block of Vermont Street while the parking lot is closed. She said a longer term solution is to convince more employees that parking in the city parking garage at Ninth and New Hampshire — where parking on the top level is free — is their best bet.

But Kern and other female employees downtown said they did not feel safe parking in the garage, especially when they must work late into the night. Kern also said a 10-hour lot near the city’s homeless shelter was not frequently used by workers.

City Commissioner Mike Amyx, who owns a barber shop downtown, said he wants to consider changing the ordinance to penalize only motorists who have five unpaid parking tickets within the last 30 days. The current ordinance charges the higher fee to people regardless of whether they have paid their past tickets.

The city first created a habitual parking violator ordinance in 1996. It was enforced for several years. It has not been enforced for about the last three years after concerns were raised that the ordinance was written in a way that made it unconstitutional. City attorneys rewrote the ordinance last year when commissioners approved higher parking fines and fees for downtown. The city began enforcing the ordinance in early March.

City commissioners are expected to discuss the ordinance at their meeting that begins at 6:35 p.m. today at City Hall.


awelles 7 years, 7 months ago

Parking is limited in our great downtown. Employees need to realize this and use the 9th street garage. If you're are fearful, ask the City Police to escort you or maybe one of your fellow employees. Perhaps the employers could organize a service to provide escorts. A golf cart system to get employees to and from work. A Chamber of Commerce project? Repeat offenders need a disincentive. Did you know if you back into a parking space in the metered lots you are also subject to a $40 or $50 fine unless you have a "handicap" tag? Old folks like to do this since it can be hard to turn and see when we are backing out.

Tammy Copp-Barta 7 years, 7 months ago

I don't see the problem. I worked downtown at Weaver's for 12 years and never got a ticket. I'm all for habitual offenders being charged more. Two tickets in a day? Sounds like she should have moved her car after the first one!

CreatureComforts 7 years, 7 months ago

Yes, how dare they keep breaking the rules and not expect consequences. How dare they!

grimpeur 7 years, 7 months ago

Parking is not limited. What a joke. It is plentiful and cheap and convenient for anyone willing to walk 3 minutes. So cut the crap.

areyousure 7 years, 7 months ago

I worked downtown for many years. Parking for employees is available. They just can't park right outside the business.

I don't get the corelation between the parking garage being unsafe and an employee getting two tickets while she was at a five hour meter. She was obviously parking during the day. There is no ticketing after 6:00. Employees who work at night only have to pay for a few hours of parking.

And I believe that the homeless shelter is two blocks away from the parking garage now that the Salvation Army doesn't operate one. (Isn't that part of the reason that the shelter is moving - so that they can expand their services?) I use the garage several nights a week and have never had an issue or felt unsafe. The entire garage is free after 6:00 and since the bottom two floors are free for two hours, anyone who comes to work at 4 or after can park there for free in the evenings.

I can understand that leaving work late at night and walking alone to your car can be scary. Park in the same area with other employees and leave together. It's not as if this part of working at night was not apparent when you took the job. I don't have much sympathy for any downtown employee who gets parking tickets when they work during the day. Walk a little further to work. There are spaces that are free away from Mass. The top level of the parking garage is usually about half full or you can park all day for $1. A lot cheaper than a normal parking ticket or a $50 ticket.

oldvet 7 years, 7 months ago

“I couldn’t believe it,” Kern said. “I pretty much worked for free that day.”

You didn't work all day for free, Donnie, but instead of working to support your fun habits, you worked all day to support your stupidity habit...

geekin_topekan 7 years, 7 months ago

What part of illegal don't they understand? I am all for anyone who goes to work in downtown Lawrence as long as they do it the L E G A L way!

My grandparents drove to work and parked the L E G A L way because they understood the laws of this country and believed in obeying the law! Now these people come along and believe that they should be above the law? What a slap in the face to those who come downtown and obey the rules and park the L E G A L way.

No amnesty for these lawbreakers!

muddfoot55 7 years, 7 months ago

Ever watch "Parking Wars"? Great concept. Would also add revenue for our schools and streets. I believe that habitual offenders that don't pay their tickets should also have their vehicles impounded. Solves your parking issues: no car, no problems.

cowboy 7 years, 7 months ago

Should be interesting to look at the revenue this year and see if parking enforcement operations are in the black , as they have not been in recent years. If they aren't we should just stop this ritualistic dance and have free parking.

Richard Heckler 7 years, 7 months ago

Love your customers!

Most business operators would not want their employees filling up convenient customer parking spaces. That's what I've always been told.

To the business operator it was which is more important. Keeping the store open or convenient parking for the employees?

Even IF we drive to town as customers parking a few blocks from our destination is always convenient.

The problem is Lawrence is taking steps to provide customers with convenient parking. A new concept. Lawrence will adapt to this new process. Yes life will go on.

Two hour free customer parking is not common place. Maybe $5 in a KCMO lot or $20 in a Chicago parking garage.

Hey employees get a Sunflower bicycle or walking shoes from Brown's Shoe Fit.

gccs14r 7 years, 7 months ago

Now we know why the metered spaces downtown are full all day. If you work downtown, park in the garage. The customers you're driving away for lack of convenient parking may be your own.

jfcm77 7 years, 7 months ago

Oh no! Somebody might have to walk a few blocks to get to work. You might as well give up now.

whitecho 7 years, 7 months ago

fyi. white chocolate (933 mass) also sells shoes that are comfortable when walking, standing or working.

geekin_topekan 7 years, 7 months ago

What if anyone who wanted could just park downtown, rule- free? Free of following any rules to park there that is.

What is to stop a terrorist from detonating a bomb on Mass st.? Quit encouraging this behavior and follow the law like the rest of us! Otherwise, you only weaken our security by showing terrorists how to park, free of all rules, here in downtown Lawrence. I for one don't want terrorists learning how to park rule-free in downtown Lawrence. These lawbreakers are showing a bad example and if they are not with us against terror, they are with the enemy!

What part of illegal don't they understand?

walter_sobchak 7 years, 7 months ago

When i was a child we parked our Model T on Mass. St. for free. THen we would dismount and go watch Charlie Chaplin in the moving pictures. Ty Cobb was tearing around the bases and life was good because we had just completed the Panama Canal, which I can tell you was a real morale booster.

Evan Ridenour 7 years, 7 months ago

This is a great ordinance. The main problem with customers being able to find parking spots downtown is all of the employees taking 1/2 of the available spaces. You would figure the owners of these businesses would want to encourage access to their establishments by telling their employees not to park right off Mass. but I guess not.

It is a 2-4 minute walk from the parking garage to anywhere downtown... and it is free. No excuse to be getting these tickets, if you are, you deserve it.

SettingTheRecordStraight 7 years, 7 months ago

Exorbitant parking fines are not designed to be punitive. They are designed to raise revenue for the government.

borntoplay 7 years, 7 months ago

I invited a friend from Lenexa to lunch downtown during the winter. He parked in front of Dempsey's. There was no No Parking sign, the yellow line (if there was one) was buried under a foot of snow and he got a $55.00 ticket! When he asked the meter maid why, she said, "Didn't you notic the ABSENCE of parking meters?" What? How is that fair? Do you think this person is EVER coming back to Lawrence to shop for ANYTHING? If you all want to keep killing our downtown, this is the sure way to do it.

50YearResident 7 years, 7 months ago

My, it looks like the loudest complainers are the biggest offenders!

Victor Dawson 7 years, 7 months ago

WOW!!! I hope that some of these comments are jokes. Encouraging women or anyone for that matter to walk to a parking garage alone at night when they don't feel safe. I sure hope that nothing happens to anybody because of that stupid suggestion. Stores/businesses need customers and employees. Also, it is hard sometimes to get out to meters and feed them when you are getting slammed by customers. Meaning, there are going to be some days that you don't make it resulting in tickets. I would also like to see the numbers from the city on much money is being made by parking. Disappointing Lawrence, very disappointing!!!

Boston_Corbett 7 years, 7 months ago

(Furse) said the city’s new policy is punishing employees who are trying to do the right thing. He said an employee of his received a $50 ticket for overparking.

I hope Furse ponied up the $50 to his employee, but I doubt it.

Sounds to me that this ordinance is pinching in the right way, and is having its intended impact.

Boston_Corbett 7 years, 7 months ago

(Furse) said the city’s new policy is punishing employees who are trying to do the right thing. He said an employee of his received a $50 ticket for overparking.

I hope Furse ponied up the $50 to his employee, but I doubt it.

Sounds to me that this ordinance is pinching in the right way, and is having its intended impact.

akt2 7 years, 7 months ago

Been there, done that. 15 years ago tickets were $1 and if not paid they went to $10. One month I decided to see how many tickets I would get for the month. It was 38. I clearly remember the judge telling me that driving is a privilege.

gccs14r 7 years, 7 months ago

As others have pointed out, the meters aren't enforced at night, so there is nothing keeping employees from parking closer to work at that time of day. Besides, the parking garage is better lit than any of the off-Mass lots are. And for anyone working for tips, again, the potential customer who leaves for lack of parking may have been your $20 tipper.

whats_going_on 7 years, 7 months ago

If you drive on the two streets around Mass you can usually find a ton of parking, unless there happens to be some big event downtown. And a majority of them are free. I can't feel sorry for employees getting tickets after repeatedly being told not to park right in front of the store. Good grief, seems like common sense to me.

woodscolt 7 years, 7 months ago

Interesting that the city can't understand the parking problem for people who work downtown. Wait thats not fair, I take that back. The city reserves parking next to their office in the parking garage for city employees that work downtown and those babies aren't your average $2, oops ,excuse me, $3 garden variety tickets. Hmmm....I get it. The city reserves parking for their employees' but then they switch sides when it comes to other business's employees. Can we say hypocrites!!!! If the city collects enough $50 fines they can hire the gestapo to march up and down mass and frighten people from ever parking downtown.

Give downtown employees a workable solution to the parking problem created by the nature of downtown parking, not them. Parking several blocks away and $50 fines are no solution , Jane Pennington. You have a parking problem in downtown Lawrence and handing the problem off to the downtown employees is absurd.

When the city removes the reserved parking for their employees, then they might be able to be taken serious about the parking problems. $50 fines lead to arresting hard working tax paying citizens and is heavy handed and is absolutely unacceptable.

Parking in downtown Lawrence is first come first serve. Get the hell over it.

bblbfolks 7 years, 7 months ago

How about you get a bike and chain it to a pole like every other person in Lawrence?

Randall Barnes 7 years, 7 months ago

MAKE SURE YOUR KIDS DON'T BORROW YOUR CAR. my brother borrowed my moms car and parked at the library every day and didn't pay any of the tickets,one day my mom got stopped because she had a warrant.what lazy people can't walk a couple blocks.

gccs14r 7 years, 7 months ago

Big box stores prohibit their employees from parking in the prime spots near the door. They understand the value of convenience for their customers. Show up at a mall at 8 a.m. and note where most of the cars are parked--out on the perimeter. It's not only more convenient for the customers if employees' cars aren't in the way, but it's better for the employees' cars, not being subjected to a never-ending barrage of door dings.

fly_on_wall 7 years, 7 months ago

The City should offer a parking pass to downtown employees. IF you pay 30 bucks you get a sticker that would allow you to park in lots for a ten hour period before receiving a ticket. Then they can change the sticker for every month. It could be offered through the Employers to make sure it is used by the Employees. I think this would be a win for the city (money)and the Employers(spaces for costumers) and the Employees( no more tickets).

7 years, 7 months ago

To all business owners & employees: if you &/or employees are having to leave to feed a meter or move your car during the day you are taking the customer parking. IF you want customers, leave the prime parking for them & make sure YOU & EMPLOYEES park further away. WALK a couple of blocks!

Evan Ridenour 7 years, 7 months ago

The irony of this whole situation is that if the people complaining about this would stop being lazy and take the 2-4 minutes to walk from the plentiful free parking all around the area they would save time by not having to deal with paying for any tickets, plugging meters, moving their car, etc.

It isn't just being lazy... it is being irrational and lazy.

alm77 7 years, 7 months ago

I thought the garage was only free for two hours? Could the city sell all day parking passes good for one month and then restrict those to certain lots?

Evan Ridenour 7 years, 7 months ago

I believe the city already sells all day passes for the garage and for some of the 10 hour lots.

The city doesn't sell all day passes for the 2 hour lots because those lots are intended for customers not employees which is something... while seemingly obvious due to the 2 hour time limit is apparently hard to grasp for the people working downtown.

areyousure 7 years, 7 months ago

Parking permits are available for purchase that can be used in the long term lots. It's about half the price that a parking permit costs for a KU employee to park in one of the on campus garages.

I think the main issue is the daytime employees who whine about tickets at meters. Safety in walking back to a car late at night doesn't have anything to do with parking tickets. Someone who has gotten two tickets in the same day parked at a five hour meter isn't going back to a car in the dark late at night. Assuming that she paid for the full five hours when she parked and then had time to get two tickets, she would have parked at the latest at noon. And as a server at Genevese, she probably had to be at work by 10:00 or 10:30 for the lunch rush. And depending on where her metered spot was, she probably walked about the same distance to her spot as she would have to the parking garage. The parking garage is half a block away - free for the top deck and $1 for the middle floor.

If you work downtown during the day, suck it up and park somewhere other than a meter. If you choose to park at a meter and get a ticket, well, that's the price for convenience. And you are taking a spot away from a potential customer.

mr_right_wing 7 years, 7 months ago

I have no problem with this. It's not like the first or second time you get nailed for $50. This city is hurting for money, you can avoid having to pay this--you can't when they hike up the sales tax!

Go ahead, nail those who habitually get parking tickets, and stop trying to heap more taxes on the rest of us! Use some of this $$ to pay for your fancy improved library that we don't need.

Dan_O 7 years, 7 months ago

Fly on wall, I think you're on to something. As a downtown employee I certainly do not want access to shopping and dining limited for the customer. The easier it is to get the customer in the store the easier it is for me to send them home with that sought after item and that is win-win. However, I can see where the downtown employee is coming from to an extent. If you're a full time student and employee (which many of us working downtown are) there are days where you need to make a mad dash down from campus to make your lunch serving shift or some other extenuating circumstance.

I never knew habitual parking violations from downtown employees was that big of a problem; none of my fellow coworkers park in metered spots and the only instances I know of downtown employees parking in metered spots are that scenario laid out in the above passage. I have a friend who did this for a semester; she got out of class at 10:50 and needed to be at work at 11ish to gear up for the lunch rush.

I second Fly on wall's idea; to really solve this problem we need to approach it from a standpoint that is not going to disparage one group or another.

If any qualified individual would like to tell me why some sort of an employee parking pass idea won't work I am happy to get a dialog going.

MattressMan 7 years, 7 months ago

From the City's website; Prices •Long-term: $1 per park or use a long term parking permit •Long-term parking permits are $192 per year, or $16 per month for the remainder of the year Long-term permits are used for other city long-term parking lots. The permits are available at Lawrence Municipal Court, 1006 New Hampshire or the water payments window on the 2nd floor of City Hall, 6 East 6th St.

They don't exactly do monthly permits which I assume is because of costs, but it's better than nothing. I think they can be had at the same place you pay water bills in city hall.

Richard Heckler 7 years, 7 months ago

According to my son a 10 hour parking pass for the garage is less expensive than meters. Certainly less expensive than $50.00 The parking garage is only 1-3 blocks from just about everywhere..... maybe 5 minutes at the most.

For those running tight schedules perhaps could work out something with management.

There are long term meters on in the New Hampshire lot about 5-7 minutes from most places.

My wife and I do a lot of "power walking" downtown and it is surprising how quickly one can get from point A to B. Life is not that bad.....

like_n_Lawrence 7 years, 7 months ago

There is plenty of 10 hr parking for 25 cents for 2 1/2 hours.....let me repeat that...25 cents for 2 1/2 hours....that is $1 for 10 hours. There is plenty of Riverfront and New Hampshire garage parking for $1 a day. And, where exactly do you work that you have to park and walk 3-4 blocks? There are long term 10 hr meters, and 10 hr lots within 1 to 1 1/2 blocks of any business downtown. The people that are complaining, I'm sure are the people the habitual ordinance was written for. There are also long term passes we can buy for $50 a quarter, or $192 a year. There are even a cheaper "value passes" for the lower Riverfront garage, and Lot 10 in the 1000 block of Vermont (which is also a 2 hr free lot). If our employees and we, as business owners, would do a little research, we would find ways to solve our parking issues. By the way, if you pay a meter all day on Mass, not only are we supposed to vacate that spot within the two-hour limit, (yeah, that's is actually against city ordinance to plug the parking meter all day anyway) , but we would spend $4 for eight hours, instead of paying $1 a day in a 10 hr long-term lot, or meter, or about 74 cents a day if we had a long-term pass, and walked 1 to 1 1/2 blocks. Really!?....all this whining for the price that Lawrence charges for parking? And ALL they are trying to do is make parking available for the people coming to OUR businesses to shop and eat downtown. All the shoppers want is available parking, and we as business owners are all up in arms about our employees, and us, not able to get a front row seat. Waaaaa waaaaa waaaaaaaa. Get over it.

nut_case 7 years, 7 months ago

Well Donnie, technically, we're all working for free until late April / mid May (depending on who you believe) to support the tax man. You just added another day to the agony. Welcome to another government money grab!

Remember this when it comes time to vote! Get out there, vote early and often!

woodscolt 7 years, 7 months ago

Right ,clinstone, this is more about revenue to the city than fixing a parking problem. All you have to do is follow the cities path through this dilemma and thats where it leads. Responsible spending by the city might address the parking issue more than the nuclear ticket options.

Flap Doodle 7 years, 7 months ago

If you get more than 5 tickets within 6 months, your health insurance premiums will go up.

like_n_Lawrence 7 years, 7 months ago

[[clintstone says, "If the city wants people to have a proper parking character they ought to provide parking to the employees that serve the customers."]]

Seriously? Where do you think we live..Mayberry? Sorry, I'm just in awe that someone feels the city should provide parking for people that work here, when it is already available for free, or less than a buck a day. Wow, wow, wow. Amazing. Also, if they offered free parking a block away, the employees would STILL park on Mass because they would have to walk a block to their car. .........See what I'm sayin'?

oliveoyl 7 years, 7 months ago

I worked downtown for almost a decade and I never used the meters for parking. It was always well known that employees shouldn't park in front of store fronts and that they were there for the customers. I did, however, park in the "free" 2 hour lots, this includes Riverfront. This did result in MANY tickets over the years. There are some stores that are small enough where you don't need more than one person running it at a time. This results, when busy, getting a ticket. Customers do come first which is why I never left to move my car if I had a customer in the store. It is what it is...parking for employees can be tricky...even when it's "free". The only places you can get FREE parking is parking in the neighborhoods close to downtown. Yes, walking a few blocks isn't a big of deal but let's face it...the masses are lazy. Call me a whiner if you want but it's a problem, not as big of a problem as some other downtown issues I suppose.
The daylife of downtown has been dying for years...there are PLENTY of parking spaces for customers during the day...PLENTY. The only time there where it can get a little congested is when it gets close to dinner time, drinking time or an event such as Sidewalk Sale...which is another problem in itself. Sheesh. What a nightmare that day has become. Too bad used to be cool.

jayhawkinATL 7 years, 7 months ago

Park and walk, you lazy people!!! No wonder this country is over-run with the obese!!!

KUnlv13 7 years, 7 months ago

Haven't been to Larry in about 6 months, so I don't know if this is logistically feasible regarding a nearby parking area, but is a downtown valet a possibility? Here in Vegas one may valet about anywhere, and although our unemployment rate is rather dismal out here, a job is a job, and the aforementioned laziness creates a demand for such a service. May be far-fetched; just throwing it out there.

like_n_Lawrence 7 years, 7 months ago

There actually IS FREE parking on the top floor of the New Hampshire parking garage, and if you don't want to have to move your car every two hours parking in the free 2-hr lots, then get a parking pass and park in the 10 hour lots, or pay the $1 a day and park at the 10 hour meters. Call me crazy, but $1 a day isn't too far removed from "free", and you don't have to keep moving your car throughout the day. The more facts we throw out, the more it just comes down to lazy people.

mdkern 7 years, 7 months ago

I guess a lot of you people don't realize by the time we get to work many of the parking spots are not available. And not to mention that some us work 12- 14 hour days, so by the time we get off work, we do not want to walk to the parking garage at 11 oclock at night for safety reasons, we are servers and carry cash on us at all times. Many of us do park at meters, but in the middle of a lunch rush we don't always have time to go feed our meters, so I guess some of you would rather have bad service while you are out to lunch because your server has to go feed their meter during the busisest times. I don't know about other stores downtowns, but servers work strang and odd hours and sometimes spots are taken because of college games, or parades, or even church but we do everything we can to keep the closest parking spots open for our customers, they are the ones who pay us. But people who are not downtown everyday of the week have no right to say we are the reason there are no spots, there are simply not enough spots downtown. Being charged 50 dollars for every two hours of parking or because you didn't feed your meter in time is riduculous, whether you live down here, go out down here, or work down here.

Evan Ridenour 7 years, 7 months ago


I run by the long term lots every single day and I have never seen the lots full... ever! Not once!

What you don't understand is this fine was enacted exactly to combat people like you parking in the meter spots every single day denying them to the customers that keep the establishment you work for in business. I sincerely doubt your employer is encouraging you to park in metered spots or encourages you to leave work to feed the meter and if they do, they are part of the problem as well. It certainly is not the stated posistion of the Downtown Chamber of Commerce that employees should be parking in spots clearly intended for customers...

There simply is enough spots downtown. The problem is that the employees are taking spots that are not and have never been intended for them. This fine was passed because the prior fine wasn't enough to prevent you from parking there, well now the current one will.

Thank you city commission for doing something right for once.

gccs14r 7 years, 7 months ago

As others have pointed out, you're not supposed to park in a 2-hour spot for more than two hours. If you're having to feed the meter during the day, you're in the wrong parking spot, whether you're downtown to work or shop. If you're an employee downtown, even if you don't park in front of your employer's shop, if you park on Massachusetts, your'e parking in front of somebody's shop. Quit being selfish and lazy and go park somewhere else. If you can't bring yourself to do that, you're probably not much of an employee, either.

areyousure 7 years, 7 months ago

mdkern - I can understand that many of you do work long hours and don't want to walk long distances to your cars at night. Been there, done that.

The spots,hopefully, are taken by people who are potential customers. There is parking downtown. It just may not be a few steps away from your place of employment. And while those spots that you may be taking are not close to your business, they are close to someone else's business.

I worked downtown for many years at all times of the day and night, long enough ago that the parking garage didn't exist for most of it. We had even less places for parking. But I managed to park at either long term meters or on a side street without meters. If I was working late, I moved my car at a break so that I didn't have to walk as far in the dark. When more than one of us left at night, we walked together to the closest car then gave the others a ride to their car. Or we tried to park in the same general area so that we could walk together.

If you are going to park at a meter, you will run the risk of getting a ticket. That's a consequence. Instead of running out to plug a meter throughout the day, park in the garage then take a break later in the day to move your car. That certainly won't take any more time that running out to your car several times in one day. It's part of the environment that comes with working downtown.

parker21 7 years, 7 months ago

The reason that you dont have a problem finding a parking place near your favorite business is because the business owner and employees don't take up the good spots close to the stores. Sure maybe a few uninformed business owners do but they are really just hurting themselves. I don't know any employees that park on Mass. Most of those $50 tickets are coming from the 2 hour lots and most employees don't use them unless they can't find a long term spot.
Next time you go downtown, Instead of a place next to your favorite store try an experiment.
try to find a 10 hour space., then you will understand.
Do the math in 2 afternoons they got 770 signatures and that was just the employees that were working on Mass at the time they were collecting them. They only got the stores that front on Mass and a few side street. None of the hundreds of offices or service businesses. Who thinks there are 1000 + 10 hour spots in downtown? I don't think so.

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