Archive for Monday, March 1, 2010

State considering proposal to capture winnings at state-owned casinos if the winner owes back child support

March 1, 2010


— Deadbeat parents who hit the jackpot at a state-owned casino would see their winnings go to pay child support, under a bill heard Monday.

House Bill 2651 by Rep. Anthony Brown, R-Eudora, was well-received by members of the House Judiciary Committee.

Rep. Anthony Brown, R-Eudora

Rep. Anthony Brown, R-Eudora

But managers of the state-owned casino in Dodge City asked for time to work on what they said were problems with the bill.

“We support the intent of the legislation,” said Clint Patty, an attorney representing Butler National Service Corp. “We are not opposed to assisting in the collection of back child support,” he said.

The committee agreed to study the bill more before acting on it.

Under Brown’s measure, a state-owned casino, or pari-mutuel racetrack would have to run the names of jackpot winners of $1,200 or more through a child support debtor registry. If a person owed back child support then when they tried to cash out, the winnings would have to be offset to pay the child support.

But Chris Reedy, vice president of Butler National, said a gambler could bypass the proposal.

For example, if a person wins $1,800 at a slot machine, he or she receives tickets from the machine that can be cashed in at several different automated kiosks to avoid triggering the $1,200 rule.

And Reedy questioned how the measure would be enforced at table games where gamblers’ winnings are going up and down.

Brown said he sees his proposal as just another way to help collect court-ordered child support, such as when the Legislature passed a law that prevents delinquent child support debtors from obtaining a state hunting or fishing license.

“We have made some progress, but we still lag behind the national average,” in child support collection, he said.

Colorado has recently implemented a similar law and committee members said they wanted to look at that statute.


Kawatchi 7 years, 10 months ago

While the idea sounds good in principle, this is one of those slippery slope type deals. Pretty soon every creditor out there will want to collect in the same manner.

LadyJ 7 years, 10 months ago

I thought they already did, should have been.

classclown 7 years, 10 months ago

So now when someone says "Baby needs new shoes" just before throwing the dice,they may be closer to the truth than they realize.

Steve Jacob 7 years, 10 months ago

Sounds good on paper, but how much are you going to get, really?

LadyJ 7 years, 10 months ago

Can't believe you said that barry. If guys don't want to pay for babies they shouldn't have sex with a female. The guy made a 'Choice' when he used it.

BorderRuffian 7 years, 10 months ago

just another pathetic case of the State wanting to depend on gambling to do their job.

marcez0z 7 years, 10 months ago

I have been paying child support for 6 years now, 700 a month which is 1/2 of my paycheck and not to happy with it. But I think this a good idea! It will make dead beat dads help with bills, and maybe get them thinking about there priorities. If you have money to gamble why are they not paying child support. I am not a big fan of Kansas law when it come to separated parents but I believe this is a decent one.

Flap Doodle 7 years, 10 months ago

In other news, Dear Leader's home state is getting close to cratering from exploding debt. He was the Go-along, Get-along guy when he was coming up through the fever swamp of political corruption in Chicago.

ivalueamerica 7 years, 10 months ago

Interesting approach....

Barry is more invested in saving a Casino than a child.

Paul R Getto 7 years, 10 months ago

Gambling: A tax imposed, generally on those with low incomes, by legislators who lack the nerve to do their job, and intended to exploit those who don't understand statistics.

SoonerNation1 7 years, 10 months ago

Barry Penders has probably never even met a female...... Quit showing your ignorance and biggotry with every comment you make

rbwaa 7 years, 10 months ago

you are making an ASSumption about approval of c.l.ap. and don't you know that males can remove the choice from females by wearing a raincoat?

LadyJ 7 years, 10 months ago

barry--guys like you are why there probably should be national healthcare to take care of the kids they pump out.

LadyJ 7 years, 10 months ago

rbwaa- that remark of yours that keeps getting removed would be appropriate for barry. LOL

ferrislives 7 years, 10 months ago

uhadmeatsmellthis (anonymous) says... "...delinquent child support debtors from obtaining a state hunting or fishing license." Lotta female hunters out there, now there's a fair system. Maybe beauty salons and clothing and shoe stores should have a system of checking and reporting deadbeat moms to the state.

I didn't realize that the state owned "beauty salons and clothing and shoe stores". While I agree that there are plenty of deadbeat moms out there as well, the state obviously can only control what the state owns, as this case points out uhadmeatsmellthis.

ferrislives 7 years, 10 months ago

barrypenders (anonymous) says... "Why do guys have to pay for babies that were the 'Choice' of the female anyway."

That was a joke right? I didn't realize that the man had no choice to have his you-know-what in her to make the baby in the first place.

Joe Hyde 7 years, 10 months ago

Rep. Brown's HB-2651 sounds pretty common-sense and ought to be passed. But I wonder if taking an extra step along these lines might prove more effective.

Casinos are not operated with the aim of losing money. The majority of customers lose the money they walked in with. Which is fine with them because their primary aim is to enjoy the casino's recreation atmosphere while having fun trying their luck despite a slim chance of winning money in a game of chance.

With the statistical probability of winning money being stacked against all customers, the children of a "deadbeat parent" would be better protected by a system that makes casino visitors undergo an identification check upon first entering the casino. Any deadbeat parent flagged by the state's database check would then be politely denied entry into the casino.

Point being: Why should the state stop at taking away a deadbeat parent's gambling earnings? Since the deck is already stacked against people winning money at casinos, why not take the stronger step of preventing the deadbeat parent from losing that child support money in a licensed game of chance?

LadyJ 7 years, 10 months ago

Maybe we're giving barry too much credit in assuming that he has some carnal knowledge. Maybe he really has none, or at least not with a female. In fact, some of his thoughts fit better in the animal world. Of course, even in the animal world, the females don't always have a choice. It is not always the woman's choice, the man can legally stop an abortion even if it is the result of a rape. Then he can get visitation rights even though he is in jail and paying no child support. So by your theory, at puberty, a woman should always be on birth control pills just in case she gets raped? Wait, along your line of thinking, there probably is no such thing as rape.

LadyJ 7 years, 10 months ago

I know some of you don't like silly facts and things, but here goes. My daughter had to do an assignment once were she had to map belts running through the US. She found that there is a Jello Belt running through Utah. Seems Mormons really like green jello and eat more there than anywhere else. Silly I know, I'm sorry.

LadyJ 7 years, 10 months ago

SORRY, wrong forum, please forgive me. It was suppose to go on the one about Utah.

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