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State considering proposal to capture winnings at state-owned casinos if the winner owes back child support

March 1, 2010

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— Deadbeat parents who hit the jackpot at a state-owned casino would see their winnings go to pay child support, under a bill heard Monday.

House Bill 2651 by Rep. Anthony Brown, R-Eudora, was well-received by members of the House Judiciary Committee.

Rep. Anthony Brown, R-Eudora

Rep. Anthony Brown, R-Eudora

But managers of the state-owned casino in Dodge City asked for time to work on what they said were problems with the bill.

“We support the intent of the legislation,” said Clint Patty, an attorney representing Butler National Service Corp. “We are not opposed to assisting in the collection of back child support,” he said.

The committee agreed to study the bill more before acting on it.

Under Brown’s measure, a state-owned casino, or pari-mutuel racetrack would have to run the names of jackpot winners of $1,200 or more through a child support debtor registry. If a person owed back child support then when they tried to cash out, the winnings would have to be offset to pay the child support.

But Chris Reedy, vice president of Butler National, said a gambler could bypass the proposal.

For example, if a person wins $1,800 at a slot machine, he or she receives tickets from the machine that can be cashed in at several different automated kiosks to avoid triggering the $1,200 rule.

And Reedy questioned how the measure would be enforced at table games where gamblers’ winnings are going up and down.

Brown said he sees his proposal as just another way to help collect court-ordered child support, such as when the Legislature passed a law that prevents delinquent child support debtors from obtaining a state hunting or fishing license.

“We have made some progress, but we still lag behind the national average,” in child support collection, he said.

Colorado has recently implemented a similar law and committee members said they wanted to look at that statute.

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LadyJ 4 years, 1 month ago

SORRY, wrong forum, please forgive me. It was suppose to go on the one about Utah.

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LadyJ 4 years, 1 month ago

I know some of you don't like silly facts and things, but here goes. My daughter had to do an assignment once were she had to map belts running through the US. She found that there is a Jello Belt running through Utah. Seems Mormons really like green jello and eat more there than anywhere else. Silly I know, I'm sorry.

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dickvandyke 4 years, 1 month ago

well Barry has a point. the court system only cares that mom gets that check. there are lots of women that use their children as tools against their exes to get favors or just to be cruel. the courts do nothing to enforce dads visitation rights in those cases. a lot if times mom moves out if state too and takes the kids. dad gets left paying the monthly child support or he gets to spend his weekends in jail. meanwhile, mom does whatever the heck she wants with no repurcussions. it's a very one sided system and not one that provides fairness or justice.

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LadyJ 4 years, 1 month ago

Maybe we're giving barry too much credit in assuming that he has some carnal knowledge. Maybe he really has none, or at least not with a female. In fact, some of his thoughts fit better in the animal world. Of course, even in the animal world, the females don't always have a choice. It is not always the woman's choice, the man can legally stop an abortion even if it is the result of a rape. Then he can get visitation rights even though he is in jail and paying no child support. So by your theory, at puberty, a woman should always be on birth control pills just in case she gets raped? Wait, along your line of thinking, there probably is no such thing as rape.

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Joe Hyde 4 years, 1 month ago

Rep. Brown's HB-2651 sounds pretty common-sense and ought to be passed. But I wonder if taking an extra step along these lines might prove more effective.

Casinos are not operated with the aim of losing money. The majority of customers lose the money they walked in with. Which is fine with them because their primary aim is to enjoy the casino's recreation atmosphere while having fun trying their luck despite a slim chance of winning money in a game of chance.

With the statistical probability of winning money being stacked against all customers, the children of a "deadbeat parent" would be better protected by a system that makes casino visitors undergo an identification check upon first entering the casino. Any deadbeat parent flagged by the state's database check would then be politely denied entry into the casino.

Point being: Why should the state stop at taking away a deadbeat parent's gambling earnings? Since the deck is already stacked against people winning money at casinos, why not take the stronger step of preventing the deadbeat parent from losing that child support money in a licensed game of chance?

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ferrislives 4 years, 1 month ago

barrypenders (anonymous) says... "Why do guys have to pay for babies that were the 'Choice' of the female anyway."

That was a joke right? I didn't realize that the man had no choice to have his you-know-what in her to make the baby in the first place.

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ferrislives 4 years, 1 month ago

uhadmeatsmellthis (anonymous) says... "...delinquent child support debtors from obtaining a state hunting or fishing license." Lotta female hunters out there, now there's a fair system. Maybe beauty salons and clothing and shoe stores should have a system of checking and reporting deadbeat moms to the state.

I didn't realize that the state owned "beauty salons and clothing and shoe stores". While I agree that there are plenty of deadbeat moms out there as well, the state obviously can only control what the state owns, as this case points out uhadmeatsmellthis.

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LadyJ 4 years, 1 month ago

rbwaa- that remark of yours that keeps getting removed would be appropriate for barry. LOL

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LadyJ 4 years, 1 month ago

barry--guys like you are why there probably should be national healthcare to take care of the kids they pump out.

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macon47 4 years, 1 month ago

Rep. Anthony Brown, wants some free press is he running for re-election or what ????

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rbwaa 4 years, 1 month ago

you are making an ASSumption about approval of c.l.ap. and don't you know that males can remove the choice from females by wearing a raincoat?

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barrypenders 4 years, 1 month ago

Come now ivalueamerica. Saving a child? There is no shortage of children. China limits their females to one male child. C.L.a P. enablers, those that think the activities of Clinton Letterman and Polanski are 'Honorable', espouse thoughtful, 'Carnal Knowledge'. It's the females 'Choice' in the matter of productivity. PADs soaking money from the Natives 'Free Market' activities, is counterproductive to the real issue.

Stimulus, Transformation, and Posercare live unprecedented

Darwin bless you

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SoonerNation1 4 years, 1 month ago

Barry Penders has probably never even met a female...... Quit showing your ignorance and biggotry with every comment you make

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Paul R Getto 4 years, 1 month ago

Gambling: A tax imposed, generally on those with low incomes, by legislators who lack the nerve to do their job, and intended to exploit those who don't understand statistics.

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ivalueamerica 4 years, 1 month ago

Interesting approach....

Barry is more invested in saving a Casino than a child.

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barrypenders 4 years, 1 month ago

The 'Transformation' is here.

Illinois and California are 'aberrations' snap_pop_no-crackle. The Poser will now 'Transform' the nation.

Yes We Can. Jihad needs a catastrophy to fulfill nirvana.

Stimulus, Transformation, and Posercare live unprecedented

Darwin bless you

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Healthcare_Moocher 4 years, 1 month ago

Very good idea, also they should take the winnings to pay other judgments like rents owed, mechanic liens, theft they have been found guilty on, etc. It is to easy to shuck your responsibilities. I too, paid every dime of my child support, and writitng the final check is like getting out from under student loans.

It is pretty hard to collect child support from a self employed person, or one in another state. This needs to be fixed as the taxpayer gets stuck with the bill.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 1 month ago

In other news, Dear Leader's home state is getting close to cratering from exploding debt. He was the Go-along, Get-along guy when he was coming up through the fever swamp of political corruption in Chicago. http://wizbangblog.com/content/2010/03/01/yikes-illinois-near-the-point-of-fiscal-disintigration.php

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barrypenders 4 years, 1 month ago

"Can't believe you said that barry. If guys don't want to pay for babies they shouldn't have sex with a female. The guy made a 'Choice' when he used it. "

Excellent point Lady J. Progressive Articulate Disillusionists support the activities of Men like Clinton. Letterman. and Polanski. So it's an uphill battle for a 'Fair' solution. PADs since the dawn of time, have enabled the activities of C.L.a P.

Stimulus, Transformation and Posercare live unprecedented

Darwin bless you

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marcez0z 4 years, 1 month ago

I have been paying child support for 6 years now, 700 a month which is 1/2 of my paycheck and not to happy with it. But I think this a good idea! It will make dead beat dads help with bills, and maybe get them thinking about there priorities. If you have money to gamble why are they not paying child support. I am not a big fan of Kansas law when it come to separated parents but I believe this is a decent one.

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dickvandyke 4 years, 1 month ago

the system is too far skewed in favor of women already. We need to get some balance back in the system. For example, Mom should have penalties if she fails to abide by visitation rights. The system only focuses on Dad.

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Bob Kraxner 4 years, 1 month ago

Well, in KCMo. , if you have $1200 or more on a machine, you cannot cash out, when you try to it automatically calls a cashier to come and hand pay your winnings, so that the state gets their taxes on the spot. If you have a warrant for arrest , the casino will find out about it before they ever pay you, and then notifiy law enforcement. I have witnessed a few people go to jail without ever collecting their winnings... don't be surprised if it begins happening with delinquent child support in Kansas.

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toe 4 years, 1 month ago

Baby's should belong to the state, so they can be properly raised.

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beatrice 4 years, 1 month ago

class clown, that was funny!

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oneeye_wilbur 4 years, 1 month ago

Why not put a casino in the schools to be closed.

Maybe even put some slots in the high school cafeterias.

This whole issue of funding is really easy.

Lawrence needs money for Parks and Rec. Put casino kiosks in the parks. Watson Park with a new Railway Casino.

Now that's it! The Sante Fe Casino with oneeye_wilburs hot dog snack bar.

Can't Lawrence get one step ahead of the state and be a leader in OZ?

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BorderRuffian 4 years, 1 month ago

just another pathetic case of the State wanting to depend on gambling to do their job.

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thebcman 4 years, 1 month ago

that's using your 'head' there, barry.

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macon47 4 years, 1 month ago

dont forget, you cant smoke anywhere else but you can smoke in a casino thanks to your kanas legistator

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LadyJ 4 years, 1 month ago

Can't believe you said that barry. If guys don't want to pay for babies they shouldn't have sex with a female. The guy made a 'Choice' when he used it.

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barrypenders 4 years, 1 month ago

Native Casino's are going broke so Big Government better double down.

Why do guys have to pay for babies that were the 'Choice' of the female anyway.

Stimulus, Carnal Knowledge, and Posercare live unprecedented

Darwin bless us all

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macon47 4 years, 1 month ago

dont forget the gals buying thier trash at tuesday mornings hobby lobby and pier one. thats were alot of their money goes just imported junk, but it gets them all hot to trot

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Steve Jacob 4 years, 1 month ago

Sounds good on paper, but how much are you going to get, really?

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classclown 4 years, 1 month ago

So now when someone says "Baby needs new shoes" just before throwing the dice,they may be closer to the truth than they realize.

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uhadmeatsmellthis 4 years, 1 month ago

"...delinquent child support debtors from obtaining a state hunting or fishing license."

Lotta female hunters out there, now there's a fair system. Maybe beauty salons and clothing and shoe stores should have a system of checking and reporting deadbeat moms to the state.

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macon47 4 years, 1 month ago

after they catch him can the wife beat him like a rented mule untill he coughs up the rest of it?? can his other wives get in line? could come to be a sport!

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LadyJ 4 years, 1 month ago

I thought they already did, should have been.

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Kawatchi 4 years, 1 month ago

While the idea sounds good in principle, this is one of those slippery slope type deals. Pretty soon every creditor out there will want to collect in the same manner.

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