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Anti-immigration measure OK’d in Neb.

June 22, 2010

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— Voters in the eastern Nebraska city of Fremont on Monday approved a ban on hiring or renting property to illegal immigrants, the latest proposal in a series of immigration regulations taken up by communities around the country.

About 57 percent of voters in Fremont supported the proposal, according to unofficial results that still must be certified by the election commissioner. The measure is likely to face a long and costly court battle, with the American Civil Liberties Union saying it will try to block it before it even goes into effect.

The town of about 25,000 people has watched as its Hispanic population surged in the past two decades, largely because of the jobs available at the nearby Fremont Beef and Hormel meatpacking plants. The city also has an enviably low unemployment rate that matches the Nebraska rate of 4.9 percent.

Nonetheless, residents worry that jobs are going to illegal immigrants who they fear could drain community resources. Proponents of the ballot measure collected enough signatures and fought in the Nebraska Supreme Court to put the question to a public vote.

The vote is the latest chapter in the tumult over illegal immigration across the country, including a recently passed Arizona law that will require police investigating another incident or crime to ask people about their immigration status if there’s a “reasonable suspicion” they’re in the country illegally.

Kansas City, Mo.-based attorney Kris Kobach, who helped write the Arizona law, has been working on the ordinance in Fremont. He is also running for secretary of state in Kansas.

From about 165 Hispanics — both legal and illegal — living in Fremont in 1990, the total surged to 1,085 in 2000, according to census expert David Drozd at the University of Nebraska at Omaha. He said an estimated 2,060 Hispanics lived there last year.

The measure will require potential renters to apply for a license to rent. The application process will force Fremont officials to check if the renters are in the country legally. If they are found to be illegal, they will not be issued a license allowing them to rent. The ordinance also requires businesses to use the federal E-Verify database to ensure employees are allowed to work.

Communities that have passed such laws have faced costly legal bills and struggled to enforce them because of legal challenges. Even before the Fremont measure passed, the ACLU of Nebraska had said it would sue.

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Agnostick 3 years, 10 months ago

"First, we set forth principles. We are a nation of immigrants committed to the rule of law. The Commission believes that legal immigration has strengthened the country and that it continues to do so. We as a Commission denounce the hostility that seems to be developing toward all immigrants.

"To make sense about the national interest in immigration, it is necessary to make distinctions between those who obey the law, and those who violate it. Therefore, we disagree, also, with those who label our efforts to control illegal immigration as somehow inherently anti-immigrant. Unlawful immigration is unacceptable.

"The second part of our strategy is worksite enforcement. You will hear testimony today about visa overstayers. You will hear that roughly one-half of the nation's illegal alien problem results from visitors who entered legally but who do not leave when their time is up. Let me tell you in three simple words why that is: they get jobs."


Testimony of Barbara Jordan, Chair, U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform Before the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on the Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims February 24, 1995

http://www.utexas.edu/lbj/uscir/022495.html

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Flap Doodle 3 years, 10 months ago

Doing the jobs Americans won't do:

"LOS ANGELES – A hacker took over more than 100 computers and used them to extort sexually explicit videos from women and teenage girls by threatening to release their personal data, federal prosecutors charged Tuesday. Luis Mijangos, 31, of Santa Ana, was arrested at his home by FBI agents on a charge of extortion that carries a maximum federal prison sentence of two years, according to a statement from the U.S. attorney's office. Mijangos made his first court appearance in downtown Los Angeles Tuesday morning where he was released on a $10,000 unsecured appearance bond on condition of home detention with no computers, his attorney Sylvia Torres-Guillen said. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement put a detainer on Mijangos and will take him into custody because he is an illegal alien, U.S. attorney's spokesman Thom Mrozek said..."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100623/ap_on_re_us/us_hacker_sex_extortion

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funkdog1 3 years, 10 months ago

This is one of the most reasonable approaches I've yet heard in the illegal immigrant "problem." No money has to be spent, no stupid walls or fences have to be built, no ID system has to be put in place. Take away the jobs and the housing and the immigrant tide will be largely stemmed.

Now watch what happens when 'Mericans have to start paying REAL prices for houses, nannies, produce and landscaping and we'll see how much they miss the illegals then.

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TrooGrit 3 years, 10 months ago

ed, I don't disagree with that either. Our government permitted this problem, now you can't just penalize people by throwing them out. I understand why people want to live here, after all..it is the land of milk and honey. I don't agree with Jimmy Carters assinine law that says they can draw social security. That's just dumb. Let them come here legally, somehow.

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edjayhawk 3 years, 10 months ago

I don't have a problem with new immigrants applying for housing rental and hiring, as long as it's not a witch hunt for those already there.

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LJ Whirled 3 years, 10 months ago

Federal Government = failure on this issue. Reason? Politicians are bought and paid-for by special interests on both sides.

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Sport 3 years, 10 months ago

The Cornhuskers are upset that their football team left the Big 12.

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Bob Kraxner 3 years, 10 months ago

Why is it that all of you people who are complaining about the homeless people in Lawrence are the same ones who support the idea of allowing all the illegals to stay in America, taking jobs that homeless or unemployed people would be more than happy to do? Some people just make no sense at all.

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kubacker 3 years, 10 months ago

Obama and Holder, you ignorant asses, hurry up and get that lawsuit against Arizona filed. You're going to lose bigtime and you know it and the floodgates for the enactment of that same law in all states (57 according to you) will be wide open. I double dare you to file that crapper. Come on guys lets get this thing moving toward the Supreme Court - if you need a ride to the courthouse call me!

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balishag 3 years, 10 months ago

Have you guys seen Western Kansas? It's like the boarder between Texas & Mexico. 50% of the rat bastards leach off the system & don't pay a dime for healthcare. OUT WITH LAW BREAKERS. Kansas needs to follow Nebraska & Arizona.

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kubacker 3 years, 10 months ago

Kobach will be a landslide winner in November, and the Nebraska city ordinace will be upheld by the courts - look out Kansas illegals here it comes!

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justfornow 3 years, 10 months ago

Obama is done, thank you Kris Kobach you're a great American unlike the Bozo's on this site.

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whats_going_on 3 years, 10 months ago

so, you're going to allow the workers to work at the nearby plants, but yet not give them anywhere to live.

smart.

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consumer1 3 years, 10 months ago

cdog77. what right do you have to talk about what is American? You are an America Hater. Flying the flag upside down shows total disrespect. Get out! Go back to Iraq.

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jrf2027 3 years, 10 months ago

The City of Fremont does not want this ordinance. It fought in both the district court and the Nebraska Supreme Court to prevent this ordinance from going to a vote. Without making a determination as to whether the proposed ordinance would pass constitutional muster, the Nebraska Supreme Court simply said the ordinance should be put to a vote. The case is City of Fremont v. Kotas, 279 Neb. 720.

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Healthcare_Moocher 3 years, 10 months ago

Jobs Americans wont do? Problem is... we dont let them get hungry enough.

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skinny 3 years, 10 months ago

balishag, the article came from the Associated Press! Where did you go to school at>????

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balishag 3 years, 10 months ago

LJworld - your headline shows you're unethical in reporting the truth to advance your liberal propaganda and bias. Everyone can see right through it.

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puddleglum 3 years, 10 months ago

I thought he was trying to target Illegal immigrants? If the majority of those is mexican, than the majority of those cases will involve Mexicans....kinda makes sense, doesn't it?

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storm 3 years, 10 months ago

When one reads about Kobach's agenda, it appears he is targeting an ethic group due to using illegal immigration and Hispanic interchangably. For this reason, it makes his argument for better/more laws less credible / believable. Yes, oc_doc77, that quote is the one I'm referring to. This article as well as others (ignore Cal Thomas for a moment because he's so obvious) are stealthly trying to construe Hispanics as illegal immigrants.

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TrooGrit 3 years, 10 months ago

If the Feds would enforce the frickin' law, and start prosecuting employers, we wouldn't have to do such silly stuff as this. There already is a federal law against immigrants being here illegally, whether they are mexican, middle-eastern, or from the moon! Enforce the dayam federal law, then the states won't have to take matters into their own hands. And for all you bleeding heart socialists, please note: Unemployment hovers around 10% in this country. You are damned right they are taking jobs away from Americans!

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bobberboy 3 years, 10 months ago

P.S. that just means we taxpayers are supporting them but the extra money saved in labor costs is just going into some rich persons pocket somewhere !!

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bobberboy 3 years, 10 months ago

Great job Nebraska ! Now maybe Kansas will follow suit. The only reason illegals are here in the first place - and are allowed to remain here - is for their cheap labor anyway.

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storm 3 years, 10 months ago

Journalists who write this story need to be correct with terminology. Hispanics are not illegal immigrants so quit using the terms interchangably. Just because Kobach does this, doesn't mean reporters have to, also.

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kernal 3 years, 10 months ago

If the Fremont Hispanic illegals in Freemont cannot continue to live in Freemont, will they move elsewhere leaving their jobs behind? Will the meatpacking plants be able to replace them at the same low salaries or will they close down and Freemont loose more jobs? Will some smart person put in a trailer park outside the city limits for those workers? Stay tuned!

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deec 3 years, 10 months ago

They also pay social security taxes.

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Alia Ahmed 3 years, 10 months ago

Here's a very well written and balanced article about whether illegal immigrants are a drain on resources at the local, state and federal level. As with most issues, it depends on the what measures were studied. It seems local governments incur more of the costs while state/federal governments may benefit from the taxes paid by illegal immigrants. Local economies and businesses certainly may benefit from the consumption of goods.

I think about a Price Chopper I used to shop at in Wyandotte County on Roe Blvd. There was a large Hispanic population (legal and illegal most likely) in that neighborhood and the store had several aisles of groceries geared to that population. Obviously, Price Chopper thought it was a profitable venture to stock groceries for this population. Those residents pay sales tax on all those purchases as well and landlords who rent to them paid property taxes on the apartments they live in

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS/807020304

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Flap Doodle 3 years, 10 months ago

If you are related to the President and evade deportation long enough, you get to stay.

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somedude20 3 years, 10 months ago

Hope that "ALF" is grandfathered in.

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CWGOKU 3 years, 10 months ago

So, is Obama gonna sue Nebraska now as well?

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deec 3 years, 10 months ago

Both meat factories are outside the city limits,so this law will have no effect on the employers who caused the "problem".
http://journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/nebraska/article_a36e5b1c-7d5e-11df-a972-001cc4c002e0.html

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c_doc77 3 years, 10 months ago

I think its important not to conflate the issue here. I also think "be legal or be gone" - not from an emotional angle, but from a legal and an economic angle. You can't just let a foreign people come in your country illegally and sap your resources. That's national suicide. Neither should you create a situation where the effects of xenophobia are amplified, and where an ethnic group is scapegoated. The buck stops with Uncle Sam to stop illegal immigration.

But here is the issue: Is it legal for the city to make landlords do this? I say no. What business is it of theirs who the owners of private property decide to rent to? Plus, who really believes non-Hispanic people are going to have to jump through the hoops Hispanics will have to jump through? I think cities should come up with strategic solutions to this problem, but this isn't the way to go about it.

I have some reservations about the Arizona legislation, but I am more sympathetic to it than stuff like this. There remains a possibility that the Arizona law could be abused, but it could be enforced without discrimination, and to a large extent probably would be. We have to remember that Arizona is a state with a large population of Hispanics. Most people fail to realize that this legislation had significant Hispanic support. Its not like you'll have a bunch of redneck cops trying to harass people for being brown. I doubt there will be any random stops or anything like that. I mean, this isn't Oklahoma, and I can say that because I'm from there. Arizona is simply trying to do what the federal government refuses to do. Someone has to do something. The situation is very bad there.

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tolawdjk 3 years, 10 months ago

I care not one whit, either way, on how Fremont goes about its buidness.

However, I see serious flaws in the approach.

1) The industries bringing these individuals into the area are not within Fremont. The meat packing industry will not have to conform to this new law. What is to prevent these meatpacking plants from moving in 50 trailer houses on company property to rent to labor?

2) The claim that these people are taking jobs away from Americans. There is no reason why Americans couldn't apply for and obtain these jobs. If illegals are flocking into the area to work there, these buisnesses must offer an incentive to do so. My guess is that the level of work doesn't mesh with the level of pay most Americans expect.

3) Fremont isn't an oasis. There are several additional burgs well within driving distance. At best, Fremont has forced the illegals to move to one of them, making them someone else's problem. They will most likely still have the ancillary costs associated with it...police and fire will still have to respond to crimes/accidents within Fremont, possibly caused by illegals, hospitals will still have to treat ER visits, schools will still lose out on state funding as the children will still be in Nebraska, just in a different district.

4) As an American, if I was renting, I certainly wouldn't rent in Fremont given the additional loop I would have to jump through to follow the "rules".

The law didn't "solve" anything, and actually took away liberties afforded to honest Americans. Personally, I don't see it any different than the Brady bill or any other legislation attempting to remove gun rights. The fact is, if I want to do something, I now need a license to do it. I need a license to obtain a firearm to protect my family and property and now, in Fremont, NE atleast, I need a license to obtain shelter.

The meat packing industry is possibly the best example of the worst possible player in the illegal immigration fight. Throughout the history of America, this industry has constantly hired non-citizens due to working conditions and low pay and the simple fact that it is more cost effective to let the labor come to them, rather than ship the animals down to the labor.

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labmonkey 3 years, 10 months ago

Poor Headline. Shows this paper's bias.

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Sean Livingstone 3 years, 10 months ago

These are my comments after reading your postings:

  1. No administration did anything on immigration except Ronald Reagan who gave illegal immigrants a path towards citizenship. But it's so funny that once Obama became a President, AZ and NE began their process to eliminate all illegal immigrants themselves. Why didn't they do that during the Clinton or Bush administration? Where were the anger when Ronald Reagan gave illegals the rights to citizenship?

  2. The two largest expenses that caused the deficit come from Medicare and Military expenses. The others are simply one-off expenses.

  3. Before the Latinos moved into Nebraska, the former meat packing plants employees were new immigrants (massive in number) from Europe. The meat packing plants simply used these Europeans to lower the production costs. After these employees moved on because their offsprings became better off, they were replaced by Latinos. But one thing that the American government did.... they redefined immigration. So before, those Europeans by today's standard is considered illegal. But what they didn't do is to adjust the employment system, and look at labor demand. So meat packing plants continued to employ low cost labors.

Just saying.

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rockchalk1977 3 years, 10 months ago

Maybe Ben Nelson (D) can cut another back room deal with the anti-American ACLU?

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ivalueamerica 3 years, 10 months ago

This is clearly going to fail in the courts. If you are a real American, you will not choose to betray the Constitution to fight illegal immigration.

I guess this community has lots of extra money to fight a lengthy and loosing legal battle just to make a point.

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headdoctor 3 years, 10 months ago

I am wondering just how much of the Hispanic growth there is actually illegal aliens. I also wonder just how many Tea bagger preferred White people are showing up to apply for the jobs at Fremont Beef and Hormel meatpacking plants. In other packing plant areas around the country, the plants, within two years of openings could no longer fill the jobs with the local supply of workers. They either had more jobs than workers or they had already run through the those who will actually show up for work. Many of these lower populated areas wanted companies there for the jobs and income to the area but want to be particular about regulating growth. As many places have found out, they can't have it both ways.

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Pantoozo 3 years, 10 months ago

Is it still ok to rent to criminals that rob banks in Nebraska?

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BrianR 3 years, 10 months ago

When is the Media going to get it through their thick skulls that sneaking over the border is not immigration.

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wpike 3 years, 10 months ago

Fremont was losing population until the darned mexicans moved in. They should be thankful.

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lawrenceguy40 3 years, 10 months ago

Send all foreigners home, legal or illegal. Except the brits; keep them and work them 16hours/7/365 until they have paid for their mess in the Gulf, then deport them.

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Flap Doodle 3 years, 10 months ago

Be legal or be gone. Doesn't matter if you are from Norway or Kenya.

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skinny 3 years, 10 months ago

All they need to do is start enforcing the laws already on the books!! Start deporting them NOW!!

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consumer1 3 years, 10 months ago

Bozo can you say illegal?? I know you can. Don't you havesome time in the Hooscow?

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Tom Shewmon 3 years, 10 months ago

I am truly amazed at the extent to which this president has, in a relatively short period of time has lost control. States are simply defying him, voters are disgusted and the world could give a flying fig what he says or does. Looks like noone was ready for his brand of change. Even the far-left is turning on him. I mean it, it is a sight to see. I almost feel sorry for the guy. The liberal media who propped him up like a god is in a pickle now.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 10 months ago

The leaders who promoted this legislation, out of the other sides of their mouths, almost certainly speak of needing to "grow the community," as long as it's grown with white folks with German or British-Isle sounding names.

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beobachter 3 years, 10 months ago

Here come the racist comments from forum posters. Wonder when first lawsuit to come over this will be filed. It is unconstitutional easily. That's why teabaggers love it so much.

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Flap Doodle 3 years, 10 months ago

The headline should actually be "Anti-illegal-alien measure OD'd in Neb".

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Healthcare_Moocher 3 years, 10 months ago

Kansas better get with the program, or we just might get the ones not welcomed in Nebraska. Then we would have to pay for them.

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nschmi04 3 years, 10 months ago

While I feel for the illegal immigrants that will be left on the street (or are they grandfathered in if already renting?), I am encouraged that Nebraskans are finally cracking down on the folks that profit off of said illegal immigration.

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