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Enrollment of Chinese students at KU growing rapidly

June 6, 2010


As China’s economic conditions improve, more of its youths are finding their way to American colleges and universities.

And Kansas University is no exception.

Ailun Li, a KU senior from Beijing, is president of KU’s Chinese Students and Scholars Friendship Association. It’s a group that’s growing all the time, Li said.

“We’ve certainly noticed the trend,” he said. “It’s good to have more Chinese students here, and we’re doing a really great job of promoting Chinese culture on campus.”

In 2005, China overtook India as the country with the most international KU students, but the most rapid growth began after fall 2006.

That year, KU enrolled 232 Chinese students. By 2009, that figure had nearly tripled to 676. India remained in second place with 196 students.

The trend is likely to keep increasing, experts say.

Chinese students have yearned for an American education for some time, said John Kennedy, a KU associate professor of political science who studies Chinese politics and society.

In China, an entrance exam plays a large role in determining which college students will attend, Kennedy said.

“Your college — and your college opportunities — are tied to your scores on that exam,” he said.

Students who want new experiences abroad and prestigious American degrees are nothing new in China, Kennedy said, but what has changed in recent years is the economic opportunity for many Chinese families.

Li said he came to the United States because he believed there were more opportunities for student engagement and involvement.

“We do have student governments in China, but they are practically puppets to the administration,” he said. “They practically do nothing.”

As wealth increases in parts of China, more students can pursue the education of their dreams.

“The income gap and the educational opportunity gap in China is widening dramatically,” Kennedy said.

The number of families that can afford an American education is still a relatively low percentage — but a low percentage of a population of 1.3 billion people still is a great many students, Kennedy said.

Many wind up coming to KU specifically because of the Midwestern culture, he said, without the hustle of the coasts.

English education is emphasized in China — it is covered on about one-fifth of the college entrance exam, Kennedy said — but many students receive additional training at KU at its Applied English Center.

Still, Kennedy said, the increasing number of Chinese undergraduates taking his courses have typically performed well academically.

“The students I’ve had have been remarkable” in how well they’ve been able to learn, Kennedy said. “They’ve been incredible.”

The influx is good for both Chinese and American students, said Sheree Willis, director of KU’s Confucius Institute, which promotes educational opportunities in Chinese language and culture.

She suggested that American students approach their foreign peers and introduce them to other aspects of the culture — anything from hanging out with their friends to going to a baseball game.

In the process, she said, it’s likely American students would gain a broader appreciation of the richness of Chinese culture.

“Not every student at KU can do a study abroad experience,” Willis said. “Really, if you can’t study abroad, really the next best thing is to have an international experience at KU.


bearded_gnome 6 years, 9 months ago

Many wind up coming to KU specifically because of the Midwestern culture, he said, without the hustle of the coasts.

---cool. it is also often very good for Chinese students to see the freedoms we enjoy.

Chinese oppression of Christians is incredible, that is by the Chinese government.

for their faith: people lose their jobs; lose their marriages; lose housing; get jailed; and get hounded by local and regional officials.

the "registered" churches aren't allowed to communicate Christianity. the independent churches do, and are constantly targetted by the government.

please pray for the Chinese Christians.

Sean Livingstone 6 years, 9 months ago

why is it only Christians? Chinese society is fundamentally Buddhist and Taoist.... I really think you have an issue here.... Religious freedom doesn't mean Christianity alone...

ralphralph 6 years, 9 months ago

I remember about twenty years ago hearing someone promoting Spanish language classes for business school students, basically saying, "You can't take their money if you can't speak their language and understand their cultural motivations".

The Chinese may have that mindset going.

Sean Livingstone 6 years, 9 months ago

Isn't it the same in the US? You don't speak English, you cannot take their money? Why are you complaining about Chinese? It's the same around the world... remember.... it's the same thing as people complaining about accents...

Sean Livingstone 6 years, 9 months ago

I see a lot of negative comments about China... honestly, why can't we let other countries do it their way? It sounds very bigotry to think... as from the first commenter (you're entitled to your own opinion), the lack of understanding of the Chinese society. It's not just about Christianity.... Christianity isn't China's only religion. The second said that if you don't speak their language... you cannot earn their money. Just go around the US, try to speak Chinese... can you get a job? You cannot, even if you speak English with a non-American, non-British and non-Aussie accents. Seems like you guys like to impose the idea that "hey look. the Chinese are worst than us" kind of mentality. or "oh, look... they ain't as good as us.... but they have 5000 years of history.... and most people immigrated to the US since 1640s... for one single reason... because their own country sucks. Europe sucked big time.... they prosecuted religions... that was why so many ran here... and don't you remember there is a German family who immigrated to the US recently because they feared of prosecution in Germany? Come on... every country is unique... stop being a bigot.... what they want to do is their own biz....

Sean Livingstone 6 years, 9 months ago

Sorry, miss out some part of the statement: "You cannot get job, even if you speak English with a non-American, non-British and non-Aussie accents, in this country".

Sean Livingstone 6 years, 9 months ago

Sorry, miss out some part of the statement: "You cannot get job, even if you speak English with a non-American, non-British and non-Aussie accents, in this country".

Sean Livingstone 6 years, 9 months ago

Sorry, miss out some part of the statement: "You cannot get job, even if you speak English with a non-American, non-British and non-Aussie accents, in this country".

Sean Livingstone 6 years, 9 months ago

beobachter, you have to ask LJWorld why this happen....

bearded_gnome 6 years, 9 months ago

Livingstone, you sir/mam are a compound idiot.
I never said that Christianity was somehow the root religion of China.
and because they're mostly Taoist/buddhist then it's okay to exercise incredible oppression?

also, do you think I am making this up. actually in wat I wrote I understated the systematic oppression of Christians in China.

now, againLivingstone you are a compound idiot because I was careful to identify the Chinese government, not the individual Chinese people.
I have fine Chinese friends, have worked with fine Chinese people. often they seem to have better personal values than many americans

you completely ignore the lack of freedom in mainland China. you know about the oppression of the internet access, Gogle, free speech, freedom of assembly, etc.???

but then Livingstone you probably are one of the Obama Zombies who thinks the U.S. Constitution is a barrier to making "social justice" in this country, eh?

Sean Livingstone 6 years, 9 months ago

"Gogle"..... I didn't know that they have changed their company name?

Maybe you really need to polish your reading skills.... read my posting clearly. You also need to write "clean" language... and be respectful in your writing.

if you know Chinese history at all... it was once invaded by 8 Western Nations (yes, the United States was one of the nations). It nearly became a democratic country under Dr. Sun Yet-sen, but it had a corrupted governing body under Mr. Chiang, and that was the reason why he lost that war against the Communist Party. Mao led the very poor Chinese population into a long march that strengthened his troops... and to move away from Mr. Chiang's forces. Mr. Chiang's strategy was to let all the war lord fight amongst one another, before he moved in to take all the benefits. The story can be really long....

It was very similar in Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh was a really respected leader in Vietnam, and South Vietnam couldn't overcome his popularity.... and many Vietnamese hated Western powers in the country. Of course, there were many who wanted a democratic and capitalistic Vietnam.

In both cases (China and Vietnam), people still feel strong against Western imperialism. Look at the recent media coverage of Tibet.... and look at how overseas Chinese reacted against the Western medias. I'm sure you won't argue with me that overseas Chinese are ignorant.... and lived in the dark right? In both countries, their citizens are still very skeptic of western imperialism. They enjoy capitalism... but still... they are still rather skeptic about the kind of democracy they wish to have in their society. To many Chinese.... and Vietnamese, stability comes first before individual rights and human rights.

You act like a bigot..... honestly... you need to understand a country's history.... before you can understand why China will remain a communist country for a long time. You can understand why Ho Chi Minh overcame two powerful nations (France and USA).... you will probably better understand the solutions how to solve modern terrorisms.....

Am I an Obama Zombie? Not sure.... U.S. Constitution is only applicable in the United States of America. Only for U.S. citizens... every other country has their own constitutions. They do it their way. Can you imagine if you see an article written by a Chinese telling us how we should rule our country? Telling us that we should adopt Buddhism as our country's religion? Or.... telling us to reverse our environmental footprints? Stop using oil? Or call our president an idiot? You sure don't like it.....

It's the same.... if you go visit a person who live in poverty.... and you give him that damn respect, you'll receive it back.... Communism is a way of live. The only way to remove it is through the citizens themselves. Honestly, Chinese don't really care much about religions at this point in time.

Teach yourself some history before shouting here....

Sean Livingstone 6 years, 9 months ago

FYI, religions and capitalism co-exist in China for a very long time. Religious freedom isn't an invention of the west. In fact, religious tolerance exists everywhere around the world at some point in time. Communism promotes atheism. Go let them figure out how to do it. The more we interfere, the more people hate us.... what has their religious persecution gotta do with you? Are you willing to open up our mouth to speak against some Islamic countries that persecute their Christians? The millions of women who never obtain education in the name of Allah? I'm not ready to. Because I don't understand Islam enough to do that. It's all relative.... China women received nearly the same amount of education as their men, especially the urban areas. Men and women are more equal in many ways... they've a lot more problems than religions. There are something that you cannot impose on a country that doesn't think like us. Can we adopt Swedish's openness in sex? You can walk nude on the street in Sweden! It's legal! But I cannot do it right here in Lawrence, KS. Oh, that's really repressive... isn't it? I know prostitution is legal in many parts of Europe.... how come it's not here? This is what I call.... social values and needs. You really need to be educated.... cheers.

Katara 6 years, 9 months ago

You have fine Chinese friends?

Do you only invite them over with you have fancy dinner parties?

XEPCT 6 years, 9 months ago

I think the more Chinese students in our universities, the better. Why you ask? Two words: soft power. These students will go home and give their friends and family 'the city upon a hill' assessment of America.

Sean Livingstone 6 years, 9 months ago

I know you're joking... it's the same with Americans who visit China.... if you go to Beijing... wow, China is so bureaucratic... if you go to Shanghai... wow, it's so crowded and commercialized... if you go to Shengzhen, wow, it's so dangerous... and if you go to rural China... wow, China is so third world. I'm sure Chinese are like us.... they know that Lawrence, KS doesn't represent the United States of America.

bearded_gnome 6 years, 9 months ago

livingstone, you criticize my fast typing leaving out an 'o' in Google, yet you write "medias" and "skeptic" when you mean "skeptical" twice.
nobody wins on here playing such games, they just look silly.

actually, I know the history you cite quite well.

problem is, you are still justifying huge systematic religious oppression. and you justify it bcause of bad things done to China in the past. these things happened, and they were wrong. Opium was a scourge for chinese. China was kept fragmented and weak for many decades.

none of this excuses whatI listed above. not once do you refute what I listed as happening in China.

actually Livingstone, if you read my posting history, you will find I have spoken up against the oppression of muslim women, the multiple marriages, the burka, etc.

I have also discussed the plight of christians in pakistan.

no, my constitutional reference is about here in america: I'm here and I presume you are. we enjoy freedoms here that Chinese citizens do not.

presume that Chinese living around the world are ignorant? really? that's one fat presumption.

Sean Livingstone 6 years, 9 months ago

Reading your past isn't my job. The only concern I have is for now. You can blame the Chinese for inhaling Opium... but you can also blame the Brits for forcing the Chinese to open their ports and forced Opium to the Chinese. Drug is a big problem in America... but Opium is not as bad as heroine...

China was weak because of a weak government.... which literally translated to the need for a stronger government... which in fact = any government that is strong enough... including communism. You can have your say on Christianity.... but I'm not in any position to judge what really happens. In fact, communism succeeded in China..... and Chinese don't really care much about religions.... thanks to.... the imperialistic pasts by the West and Japan in China.

What are the good things that the communist government had done to China? Unify China. Rebuilt its reputation from being one of the weakest governments in the world... to one of the strongest. Making China respectable in the world, and thus Chinese become respectable. It becomes a creative hotbed for Chinese.... sure, communist kills millions, but China is still a country. There were many more millions of Chinese who died in the hands of the Japanese. What is more humiliating? Die of hunger or die from the rape by Japanese?

How do I know? My great grandfather lived through those years..... and immigrated to the US... and got discriminated at the port (when millions of Europeans moved into the land of the free easily....). What did I learn from my past generations? Just work hard... like what a Chinese should do. If they don't allow you to do something, just move to another field.... be as flexible as possible.... Prove to them, at the end of the day, they're wrong. I remember once a British said to my great grandpa... Chinese were not smart enough to build their own railroad... I'm sure flying to space proved to the Brits that we're smart enough. But still.... being a Christian myself... I don't think the Communist persecuted the Christians that badly... I attended masses in China. It's just like any masses we have here in America.

A lot of Western medias like to cover China.... it's good to report bad things in China, because people who live in the West like to see such bashing, and China always kept quiet. Well... take a look at the 80s. Import tax was only imposed on Japanese cars, and not German cars even though both countries practiced protectionism. I'm sure you can have lots of explaining to do here. John Vause is one bad example of a CNN reporter who doesn't understand China, and like to report very bias things about China. To many Americans.... China is a nice place to bash. Sure, it is. Even the communist government keeps quiet when it's based by any overseas media. I'm not a supporter of Communism, and sure know enough about how lack of freedom has affected Chinese as a whole. I'm sure the Taiwanese model works far better in term of improving the livelihood of Chinese.

Sean Livingstone 6 years, 9 months ago

I'm sure capitalism has brought a lot of wealth to China. But it has also brought a lot of criticisms.... like what we called... carbon emissions. Coal.... whatever. The list goes on and on and on.... Japanese and Hyundai cars made in the US are still considered foreign imports.... and we never once said anything about BP, or when DHL roamed across this land....

It's just another way of saying that the west is smarter than the rest of the world.... honestly, this is the thinking that is not helping America.

God Bless you.

bearded_gnome 6 years, 9 months ago

Katara: You have fine Chinese friends?

Do you only invite them over with you have fancy dinner parties?

---guessing you're reacting to the use of "fine."

well to clarify, I think you're a fine poster Kat, even though sometimes you disagree with me. does that help?

bearded_gnome 6 years, 9 months ago

honestlady (anonymous) says…

And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose----Roman 8:28

---Honestlady, you are absolutely correct. Romans shows that though it is evil, God works all for good. even good for those who are oppressed.

and sometimes that oppression of Christians is meant for the example to Christians who don't suffer such oppression.

bearded_gnome 6 years, 9 months ago

just a couple short comments:

I don't think XEPCT was joking.

and,this thread sure did set off Livingstone! does Livingstone receive a monthly check from the mainland chinese government? as I looked over his/her posts I saw about half a dozen more grammar and spelling errors.

but back to my first post: I am delighted that more Chinese are coming to KU. KU is a good school, and I hope that while here they have fine friendships with americans. I was surprised at how few internationals gain friendships with americans while studying america. some of that is shame on us americans.

KU has a great program for internationals and they always want more americans to host and participate.

Sean Livingstone 6 years, 9 months ago

Then you might receive a regular check from the Christian Church.... cheers. My comment is simple. I hope we can leave the world alone......

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