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U.S. Senate candidates clash over who’s most conservative

July 25, 2010

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The race between two Republican congressmen vying for an open U.S. Senate seat has turned nasty in debates and political ads.

Both Jerry Moran, of Hays, and Todd Tiahrt, of Goddard, have criticized each other on issues including immigration, government spending and taxes, health care and what to do with terrorist suspects.

The lengthy fight for the GOP nomination has been both for the conservative mantle and the label of independent Kansas politician versus Washington insider.

“Do Kansans want a liberal compromiser as a senator? Or do they want someone who is going to fight for the shared values of Kansans?” said Tiahrt, who has represented the state’s 4th Congressional District in south-central Kansas since 1995.

Moran, who took office in the U.S. House in 1997 representing the state’s 1st District of western and central Kansas, has played up a message on cutting federal spending during the campaign.

“(Tiahrt’s) a member of the spending committee, the House Appropriations Committee,” Moran said.

The seat is open because Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., is running for governor.

Truth Test: Putting Moran's ad under the microscope

Lawrence Journal-World reporter Scott Rothschild takes a look at the claims made in one of Jerry Moran's campaign ads. Enlarge video

Issues

Through debates, interviews and attack ads, both candidates have spent time trying to highlight their own plans for the economy.

Nearly once a week Moran mentions he was one of only 17 House members to vote against every stimulus and bailout proposal. He says job creation can come through a refined tax code that doesn’t rely on higher spending.

“My agenda on day one of being a U.S. senator is to work to hold the line on spending and create a tax environment and a regulatory environment in which businesses can success in putting people back to work,” Moran said.

But Tiahrt’s campaign has accused Moran of voting against the Bush tax cuts in 2003. Moran said he voted against a resolution on the tax cuts. He was worried the plan didn’t cut enough spending, and he later supported the $350 billion Bush tax cut plan.

Tiahrt touts his plan for tax relief, regulatory reform, and relying more on the private sector for health care, energy independence and litigation reform.

He credits his economic stances as the reason for winning endorsements from groups like the Tea Party Express.

“It’s because I’ve got a good plan to get the economy going from the ground up and not the ground down,” Tiahrt said.

Both congressmen joined the new House Tea Party Caucus last week.

On immigration, Moran accuses Tiahrt of voting for “amnesty” for past support of legislation that gives illegal immigrants paths to obtain driver’s licenses and in-state tuition benefits. Tiahrt said he changed his stance from years ago after talking with Kansans about the issue.

Tiahrt has repeatedly said the United States needs to work to “build the fence” or secure borders before moving forward on immigration policy. He has criticized Moran for past support of “sanctuary cities” for illegal immigrants and said that caused former U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., to switch his endorsement from Moran to Tiahrt.

Moran said he voted against the “sanctuary city” concept several times.

During their congressional careers the two receive favorable scores from right-leaning groups, although a few votes stand out. Moran, for instance, broke ranks with most Republicans, including Tiahrt, and did not support the 2003 Medicare prescription drug overhaul because he said it would be bad for the state.

Moran voted in 2009 on expanding the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. Tiahrt voted against expanding SCHIP.

Tiahrt says those votes indicate he is the true conservative, but Moran says his overall record shows he votes based on what he believes is best for the state.

Both men support repealing the federal health care overhaul approved earlier this year.

Truth Test: Putting Tiahrt's ad under the microscope

Lawrence Journal-World reporter Scott Rothschild takes a look at the claims made in one of Todd Tiahrt's campaign ads. Enlarge video

The home stretch

The winner of the Aug. 3 primary will be the front-runner to win in the Nov. 2 general election because Kansas is a heavily Republican state.

Moran has consistently held a lead in fundraising and in the public polls, but Tiahrt says primary polls are traditionally unreliable and touts recent endorsements from conservatives such as former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, former top Bush aide Karl Rove and James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family.

The most recent Survey USA poll found Moran leading 50 percent to 36 percent among 787 likely primary voters, but Tiahrt’s campaign said the poll shows he is gaining ground.

One pundit said the primary elections are more difficult to predict.

“The polls may be correct of the people they polled, but if on Election Day there was a real surge of very conservative voters, then Tiahrt’s arguments could be true,” said Bob Beatty, a Washburn University political science professor who moderated one of the debates.

In the GOP primary, Mound City accountant Tom Little is also running. And former Kansas Attorney General Robert Londerholm, of Overland Park, will be on the ballot, but he is no longer campaigning.

Comments

retardicanfodder 3 years, 8 months ago

Short Bus Jwalker, Myopic? Really? Back that up. You are clearly blind to reality. Basically only about the top 1% of the wealthy citizens of the USA benefit when Rebublicans are in charge. That means that everyone else losses (and GIVES them money). So, you would have to be STUPID to vote Republican. The only way they can win an election is if VERY STUPID people continue to vote against their own best interests and to give the top 1% of wealthly persons in the country more money. So, how short sighted is it to see that if you give a few people all the money no one else will have any or enough and the ones with all the money get to make the rules and have most of the freedom. You're must be a true Retardican. Because only an intellectually retarded person would contininue to do the same stupid, self destructive, ignorant, retarded thing over and over again without thinking for even a second how STUPID it is to vote to give your money to really really rich people for nothing in return except.....to have less money. There's only one world. Why don't you try living in it for awhile. You might like it. If you don't...you can just go to 'someplace better', right? But quit trying to make it worse for everyone else while your around. That's just retarded. So, THINK, don't react. You might learn something... .Do super rich people NEED more money? NO. Could everyone else use more or need more....Apparently. So how do you vote? It is just that simple....vote for yourself and basically everyone else in the country or vote for just a few to have it all.....Retardican or Self? Damn you're stupid you're gonna vote for just a few again....That is just retarded now isn't it?

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SeaBee 3 years, 8 months ago

Well, at least we'll have an opposing candidate in the general election.

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Reality_Check 3 years, 8 months ago

I sure hope they actively try to defeat agricultural and oil & gas subsidies and other government bailouts. And, if such "pork" is proposed for KS, they refuse it.

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bobberboy 3 years, 8 months ago

yea merrill make that the most narrow mind and probably somewhat retarded too. Oh sorry I used the retard word.

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none2 3 years, 8 months ago

I think Kansas residents should refudiate both of these candidates.

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mr_right_wing 3 years, 8 months ago

I think the St. Reagan republicans are a dying or dead breed. Well....except for me of course. I look at Rush as a bit of a moderate.

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prolifersforwar 3 years, 8 months ago

Oh yeah and Abstraction is the new Specific. Ha--haaaah. I lover Merica! I love Freedom! Bleeding heart liberals who oppose walls at our borders and the immediate incarceration of anyone with skin that's too brown--they hate Freedom! Freedom haters! Ha-haaaah! Ha-haaah!

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prolifersforwar 3 years, 8 months ago

Well I'll be voting for whoever brings back stoning and crucifixion. It's time for the bleeding heart liberals to accept that 12th century is the new 21st century. Nelson laugh: ha-haaaah

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oldexbeat 3 years, 8 months ago

Thank you, Jimo -- good point and way to present it -- although I'm left of it all -- I miss the "I like Ike" crowd (re keeping open to thinking) and the Goldwater crowd, re leaving us all alone with our doctors, religions, and guns.

Moran does not desire to win, in my view. I used to like him. Hoped he would remain more Eisenhower type Republican. He hasn't and he runs like a little puppy towards Tiahrt's positions, thus Tiahrt should win. Might as well get a real Tea Party person, not the fake. (Although I want to see his papers -- never mind...)

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Jimo 3 years, 8 months ago

“Do Kansans want a liberal compromiser as a senator?"

The real question is do we want more left-wing government programs? List any program passed by this Congress whether the stimulus, health care reform, financial reform, energy taxes, higher income taxes, etc., etc.

Every one of these is a direct consequence of not having a "liberal compromiser" in the Senate. "Hell no" solves no problems.

Politics IS compromise. Failure to compromise may sometimes mean you win. More often, it means that you LOSE. It also means you get a worse law than what could have been. Don't like Obamacare? Blame Brownback, who could have worked for a better law by compromising. (gasp) Now, we're stuck with it no matter how much rhetoric spews forth.

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tomatogrower 3 years, 8 months ago

If their attack campaigns are an example of how they are going to run and govern, then I'll never vote for them.

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tange 3 years, 8 months ago

Ah... does anyone recall the days when leaders weren't followers?

( ... or dogs chasing their own tails or sniffing other dogs'...? )

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edjayhawk 3 years, 8 months ago

Its like who do you prefer Hitler or Stalin?

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Randall Uhrich 3 years, 8 months ago

Support Tiahrt. Sure, he's a tea-baggin' fool, but Moron is a much more dangerous idiot.

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Reality_Check 3 years, 8 months ago

I'm just hoping the rightwingers, once they get into office, will practice what they preach and stop taking federal dollars so our taxes won't be so high. You know, like farm subsidies. And subsidies for oil and gas.

Funny, not much mention of that talk during these debates. Washington is Evil right up until the time you are waiting on a check from there. Then once you cash it, it's Evil again.

And I'm also looking forward to Conservatives doing something about the national debt since they keep talking about it. Of course, Conservatives controlled the US Senate and House and the presidency between 2000 and 2006 and the national debt increased by 53% during that time. (Source: www.presidentialdebt.org). But I guess this time it'll be different.

Yeah, and I'm starting a flight school for pigs. (I wonder if that will qualify for a farm subsidy?)

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Reality_Check 3 years, 8 months ago

"I'm more out of touch with the American public!" "No, I'M more out of touch with the American public!" "Are not." "Am so." "Are not."

Once we get our rightwing kook governor and one of these two guys in the Senate, we will be perhaps the most rightwing state in the country. So very far out of touch with the parts of the country where most people live. The Tennessees and Alabamas ain't got nuttin on ol' Kansas.

Wasn't always this way...back in the day, we had plenty of that rarest of politicians, the Moderate Republican. How sad that a Bob Dole or Nancy Kassebaum couldn't make it past the rightwingers in a primary today.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 3 years, 8 months ago

So it's a race to see who can out-Brownback Brownback.

Republicans should be embarrassed by this spectacle (not that they have the intellectual capacity to realize it.)

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Richard Heckler 3 years, 8 months ago

USA citizens have gotten duped by the Reaganomics New World Order global economy. A significant portion of the republican platform.

If you study the facts you likely would not vote republican for several decades.

Study these facts and you will understand my position. Repubs are not repubs. They became radical right wing in 1980 and never looked back

The Global Economy and Reagnomics are absolute failures for the USA!!!

This is what I mean:

  1. The Reagan/ Bush Savings and Loan Heist "There are several ways in which the Bush family plays into the Savings and Loan scandal, which involves not only many members of the Bush family but also many other politicians that are still in office and were part of the Bush Jr. administration. Jeb Bush, George Bush Sr., and his son Neil Bush have all been implicated in the Savings and Loan Scandal, which cost American tax payers over $1.4 TRILLION dollars (note that this was about one quarter of our national debt"). http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htm

  2. The Bush/Cheney Wall Street Bank Fraud on Consumers "And, yes, substantial fraud was involved. For example, mortgage companies and banks used deceit to get people to take on mortgages when there was no possibility that the borrowers would be able to meet the payments. Not only was this fraud, but this fraud depended on government authorities ignoring their regulatory responsibilities." http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

  3. Only 3 major Financial Institutions Were at Risk In Spite of What Were Told ? "There were just a handful of institutions that were terribly weakened. AIG the insurer, Bank of America, Citigroup, those three were clearly in very weakened form. So, many of the other big banks were not. http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10/good_billions_after_bad_one_year

  4. Privatizing Social Security Would Place the Nations Economy at Risk "Social Security privatization will raise the size of the government's deficit to nearly $700 billion per year for the next 20 years, almost tripling the size of the national debt.

Put simply, moving to a system of private accounts would not only put retirement income at risk--it would likely put the entire economy at risk." http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2005/0505orr.html

  1. Still A Bad Idea – Bush Tax Cuts - The ENTITLEMENT program for the wealthy at the expense of the middle class = tax increases for the middleclass. http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2001/0301miller.html
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Richard Heckler 3 years, 8 months ago

Being the most narrow minded is nothing to be bragging about!

Neither have shown to be fiscal conservatives considering how they boast about supporting GW Bush no matter what.

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