Archive for Tuesday, July 20, 2010

Autopsy report: Man died of fall from Oread roof, had alcohol and marijuana in system

Brandon Sims fell 80 feet to his death on a hotel terrace. He had both alcohol and marijuana in his system.

July 20, 2010

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A 25-year-old Lawrence man who died after falling from the top floor balcony at The Oread hotel had alcohol and marijuana in his system at the time of his death, according to an autopsy report released by the coroner’s office Tuesday.

An electrician working at the hotel discovered the body of Brandon Sims on June 8 on the second floor terrace.

The autopsy said Sims died of “multiple blunt force traumatic injuries” consistent with a fall. Authorities believe he fell from the roof, a distance of more than 80 feet to the terrace where he landed. There was no sign of a struggle, nor anything out of place on the hotel’s top floor, according to the report.

Toxicology results show Sims had a blood alcohol content of more than .16, or twice the legal driving limit. He also tested positive for marijuana.

The report states that Sims, who worked for Front Row Audio, left the hotel with the rest of the crew at roughly 8:30 p.m. on June 7. His boss remained at work until 10:15 p.m. and reported that he did not see Sims the rest of the night.

The coroner’s report said that it was common for Sims to go to the roof at night after work and that he had no history of depression or known intent to commit suicide.

Comments

bearded_gnome 5 years, 1 month ago

Toxicology results show Sims had a blood alcohol content of more than .16, or twice the legal limit. He also tested positive for marijuana.

---and he certainly didn't deserve to die.
God grant his family and friends peace in their grief.


LJWorld, please turn on the "preapprove comments" feature for this thread! we've seen what posting can be like on this news story.

Evan Ridenour 5 years, 1 month ago

But then the LJWorld couldn't get the page views that are generated by all of those inappropriate comments!

Duh.

meggers 5 years, 1 month ago

And just how do you know that this man was unable to leave alcohol and pot alone? Many people partake in those particular recreational substances and I would guess that only a small percentage of them are unable to leave them alone.

It's clear that you don't approve of alcohol and drug use. It's in very poor taste to impugn a dead man's character in order to make your point.

d_prowess 5 years, 1 month ago

Can anyone explain why, as stated in the coroner's reports, "it was common for Sims to go to the roof at night after work"?

I thought the roof was off limits except for special events. And if that is the case, why would the hotel let a contractor just hang out there after they are done working at the hotel?

not_a_republican 5 years, 1 month ago

The article states that his blood alcohol content was ".16, or more than twice the legal limit". He wasn't driving and as far as I know there is no legal blood alcohol limit for someone who is not operating a vehicle.

wmathews 5 years, 1 month ago

The blood alcohol content number is a point of reference. If you eliminate the "twice the legal limit" from the sentence, many people may not know if the amount in the report is high or low.

Whitney Mathews Online Editor

lmb 5 years, 1 month ago

But it indicate the purpose of the limit. It reads that there is a limit of .08 for merely existing.

lmb 5 years, 1 month ago

**doesn't.
It DOESN'T indicate what the limit is for.

mom_of_three 5 years, 1 month ago

dont most people know what "legal limit" refers to?

not_a_republican 5 years, 1 month ago

If you are using the logic of "don't most people know what legal limit refers to" then we could use the same logic that most pe would know that .16 is a high content. But Some people may not know that legal limit refers to driving limit, just as some people may not know that .16 is a high level. Seems to me it should have been made a little mor clear as it implies that there is some sort of legal limit to how much you can drink and that isn't true

wmathews 5 years, 1 month ago

That's a fair point. The story has been adjusted to say that the BAC was twice the legal driving limit.

Bladerunner 5 years, 1 month ago

It's only twice the legal limit if your driving. What is the legal limit for falling off a roof?

puddleglum 5 years, 1 month ago

does it really matter? Only thing i see here is a tragedy that may have been avoided by the fritzel 3%+tax hotel if they had had a railing.

ThatGirl2 5 years, 1 month ago

puddleglum (anonymous) says… does it really matter? Only thing i see here is a tragedy that may have been avoided by the fritzel 3%+tax hotel if they had had a railing.


There is a railing up there.

DrRustinMcGillicuddy 5 years, 1 month ago

Actually, I feel like the article wasn't very clear on this point. The coroner would know if the level of THC in his system was consistent with a someone who was impaired by it at the time of their death, or whether it was just residual traces left over from a past session. I wish they could clarify this.

ClaroAtaxia 5 years, 1 month ago

Agreed! The coroner AND the article NEED to clarify if he just tested positive, or if he was actually high when it happened. That's a BIG difference, and if he merely tested positive they should not have mentioned it in the article AT ALL. People need to educate themselves on this topic as I have numerous stories in the past few years where they mention the person tested positive, thus making it SEEM to the lay people that it is to blame, when in actuality the person may not have used for weeks and still test positive after death. Maybe the author of the article just wants it that way?

mom_of_three 5 years, 1 month ago

Sad situation. another life ending too soon from the effects of drugs and alcohol.

beim 5 years, 1 month ago

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beim 5 years, 1 month ago

Most of this was in caps so read it as if it were all in caps please

DrRustinMcGillicuddy 5 years, 1 month ago

I don't know what your problem this. This was a very big story for people in this town, as tragic and untimely as his death was. The fact that alcohol and marijuana were both present in his system is particularly pertinent, and we all know that they absolutely affect your judgement, actions, and mental capacity when you are under their influence. What would you have preferred LJWorld to write?

KEITHMILES05 5 years, 1 month ago

Wonder what clothes he wore?!?! What kind of vehicle he drove!?!?! Sorta like......who cares!

I agree, making a strong insinuation of drink and pot in his system is why he died. No, that is not why he died.

greenlid79 5 years, 1 month ago

Yeah, pot and drink were involved. Well... mystery solved, eh. He was "influenced." People under the influence DIE. "Wrap it up boys. Let's get some dinner."

I did kind of want to know what was found out about this case, but it was not much, it seems.

ThatGirl2 5 years, 1 month ago

KEITHMILES05 (anonymous) says… Wonder what clothes he wore?!?! What kind of vehicle he drove!?!?! Sorta like......who cares!

I agree, making a strong insinuation of drink and pot in his system is why he died. No, that is not why he died.

Well, he died because he fell. But having drugs and alcohol in his system certainly didn' t help the situation. I've been up on that rooftop many times (albeit unimpaired) and have never had the urge to lean so far over the railing I could fall.

not_a_republican 5 years, 1 month ago

In my opinion, stating that his blood alcohol level is twice the legal limit, implies that he was doing something illegal. Yes marijuana in the system is illegal but a blood alcohol level of .16 is not so long as you are not operating a vehicle. So I think it gives the guy a bit of a bad name due to the fact there is an implication that somehow his drinking was illegal and I don't think that is fair. That's all I'm saying.

John Hamm 5 years, 1 month ago

And I say it says, "IF he were driving he would be considered legally intoxicated." That helps make a reasonable decision as to his physical condition at the time of the fall.

denak 5 years, 1 month ago

"...bad name due to the fact there is an implication that somehow his drinking was illegal..."

No, it doesn't. It just tells the reader he was s**tfaced.

redmorgan 5 years, 1 month ago

I don't understand why the LJW even published this story. It's really not anyone's business what the young man had in his system-he didn't hurt anyone else. I'm sure his family would have been better off without private information like this being in the news. Poor family-first they deal with the tragedy, now they lose their privacy.

redmorgan 5 years, 1 month ago

You crack me up. Your comments are rude and presumptuous. I never once claimed I'd like to be the "new czar" or called for censorship. I'd just like to see a little decency and sensitivity, but, from what you've written, you wouldn't know much about that , now would you? YOU get off YOUR high horse. We don't need you telling us what's best for everyone else, either.

redmorgan 5 years, 1 month ago

I'm not so ignorant that I can't spell. Try substituting "you're" for the two times you wrote "your" in YOUR first paragraph. Christ, even my 8 year-old kid knows the difference between your and you're. You have the ability to read people's minds and know what they are glad for-wow, fascinating.

redmorgan 5 years, 1 month ago

This is why I rarely comment on the LJW...rude readers with no sense of etiquette who will jump all over you for expressing an OPINION. I'm sorry your mother didn't teach you any manners.
Have a nice day.

denak 5 years, 1 month ago

If it bleeds, it leads. That is the old axiom all news outlets follow.

Clark Coan 5 years, 1 month ago

Perhaps he was leaning over or sitting on the railing. The hotel's railings are 44" which is above the building code requirement of 42". However, since alcohol is served on at least one veranda they should probably be 52".

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years, 1 month ago

We still don't know what caused his fall.

Alcohol and/or pot may have been contributing factors, but we don't know-- maybe we never will.

in123 5 years, 1 month ago

The ultimate cause of the fall is gravity. Let's quit analyzing this and extend sympathies to the family.

jonas_opines 5 years, 1 month ago

You don't really believe that polls on the ljworld are representative, do you?

I'll also note that you're potentially using up to three separate criteria.

Testing positive = frequent or recent pot use Ever smoked pot = one use, or more, no way to tell Drug/alcohol = two things

You might (might) be close on the list of people who have used pot once. Certainly on those who have used pot or alcohol (though likely not to test positive due to how fast alcohol oxidizes out of your system), but if you're trying to say that 60-80% of Lawrencians actually smoke pot regularly, you're out to lunch. Or perhaps driven by stereotypes that you have vested personal interest in being true.

jonas_opines 5 years, 1 month ago

It's probably quite likely that alcohol and pot didn't cause this accident.

A Lot of alcohol and pot probably caused this accident.

The first casualty of illegality and abstinence only mentalities seems to be moderation.

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