Archive for Monday, July 19, 2010

The Oread provides revised plan to city for KU football tailgating events

The Oread Hotel is planning to hold tailgate parties before KU home football games. The parties would start three hours before games and would keep nearby roads open for game traffic.

July 19, 2010


Revised plans for a series of tailgating events around The Oread hotel are coming back to Lawrence city commissioners on Tuesday.

Owners of The Oread, 12th and Indiana streets, want to host tailgating events three hours prior to and one hour after each Kansas University home football game.

New details of the proposal include:

• 12th Street will remain open, although in front of the hotel the driving lanes will be narrowed to allow a portion of the party to extend onto the street. A temporary fence will be installed to separate pedestrians and traffic.

• Oread Avenue will be open, but the event will take up the west side parallel parking spaces along Oread between 12th Street and the entrance to the KU parking garage. Kid zone activities will be located in that area. Temporary fencing will be installed between the games and the street.

• The Oread’s liquor license temporarily will be expanded to the public right-of-way adjacent to the hotel along 12th and Indiana streets. Alcohol won’t be allowed along the Oread Avenue right-of-way.

Oread leaders also are seeking a permit for a one-time Fall Sports Kick-Off Event from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Aug. 27. That event will close 12th Street in front of the hotel and will close Oread Avenue from 12th Street to 13th Street. Alcohol won’t be served in the right-of-way for that event.

Commissioners meet at 6:35 p.m. Tuesday at City Hall, Sixth and Massachusetts streets.


leftylucky 7 years, 9 months ago

How much property tax does the oread pay the county?

Steve Tramba 7 years, 9 months ago

Alcohol won’t be served in the right-of-way for that event.

Might not be SERVED, but as crazy-smart collegians go, it'll be present there. :) Go KU & Coach Gill!

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 9 months ago

It's freaking 10-story building. They don't need to commandeer the streets, too.

pizzapete 7 years, 9 months ago

How true. Rock and Roll party in the street on a game day? Still a bad idea.

d_prowess 7 years, 9 months ago

I just find it hard to justify anything that will cause additional congestion and the removal of potential parking during game day. While the streets may be open, you know people will still be all over. Plus why let them take away free street parking!

d_prowess 7 years, 9 months ago

I should add though that I would probably support this type of event now that the streets will remain open. However, I would say they should be allowed to do it only at half the games this season as a test run and then have the city reevaluate the idea for next year.

independant1 7 years, 9 months ago

As if game day wasn't disruptive enough. Keep the party on private property and don't donate the street/parking spaces to the elite.

nekansan 7 years, 9 months ago

Again; any permits to close the streets and to serve alcohol needs to be done where other businesses have a equal opportunity to earn the right to host the events using public property. It should also be structured so that the public shares in the profits beyond just the sales and excise taxes generated.

gccs14r 7 years, 9 months ago

If Oread gets to close 12th and Indiana for an outdoor party, downtown bars should get to close Mass and the cross streets and let people walk around outside with drinks.

somedude20 7 years, 9 months ago

the powers that be will give in just like they did when they allowed that ugly azz building to be built! Not one more public dime should be spent on these folks and their quest for more revenue. They are not starving childern, they are rich fat cats that use Lawrence's resources to line their coffers. I will now pee on their heads and tell em it is raining

Cait McKnelly 7 years, 9 months ago

I'm surprised, and pleased, that the vast bulk of responses are no or at least say not without giving other businesses a piece of the pie. Oread hotel is in a unique position, the only business at the edge of the campus. They strong armed this city into letting them build that ugly rock pile there and now they're trying to take over the streets too. BS. My daughter and SIL try to tailgate the home games. They get up at 5am game day and go to the stadium parking area to reserve a spot. The ability of the Oread to close off a significant amount of parking and then CHARGE people for those spots is beyond ridiculous. No, no, a thousand times no!

gatekeeper 7 years, 9 months ago

Not looking for a reason, there are many reasons. One being the people that live right by there also. They don't want this, didn't want the Oread and now have to suffer through what ever the owners of the Oread want.

Having bars right off campus isn't such a wonderful thing. 1st time I visited U of Florida, I was shocked to see bars lining the streets across from the campus and their stadiums. I didn't notice the U of F sign at first because there was a drunk student p*ssing on it. Everywhere you looked, drunk students. It was so pretty. It would be nice to keep KU classier than that.

gatekeeper 7 years, 9 months ago

Yes, in the ghetto. That's where I lived the whole time in school. The ghetto is not campus. The Oread is across from the Union for Christ's sake. It's not like it's off campus. The Oread is POS that should have never been built. Hmmm, me thinks you have some financial connection to it because you defend it so.

pizzapete 7 years, 9 months ago

Good point Jack! I didn't think about that (3.2 beer), I used to go to the Crossing when Tom owned it and Rudy's was in back. Pizza, beer, and cheap live music, good times.

IslandContributor 7 years, 9 months ago

HONOR THE CROSSING! Lets not forget why the crossing no longer exists I think it got destroyed for some hotel to be built or something.

Boston_Corbett 7 years, 9 months ago

So instead of selling alcohol on public streets, they want to sell alcohol on public sidewalks. How considerate to the surrounding neighbors.

gatekeeper 7 years, 9 months ago

Those places don't have much to do but worship football. That's the difference. And drunkeness is a way of life for those southern cities. Comparing apples to oranges.

William Pike 7 years, 9 months ago

What’s the problem? Celebrating KU, rooting for the home team? People here make it sound like there is going to be complete turmoil if there is a street party. Get a grip. Go and have a beer and a hotdog on a Saturday with fellow fans. Most of the people at this event won't be driving home on game day anyway. Also in regards to the neighbors look all around the hood. It a party everywhere on game day, its not going to stop anytime soon, GO HAVE A GOOD TIME. IT SOUNDS LIKE MANY OF YOU NEED ONE.

William Pike 7 years, 9 months ago

I agree others should be allowed as well. Like the 8th st. block party.

Flap Doodle 7 years, 9 months ago

It's always interesting to see which posters get all wrapped around the axle on any given story. Everybody have a popsicle and calm down.

independant1 7 years, 9 months ago

kinda got caught up in the general hysteria of the moment

puddleglum 7 years, 9 months ago

so are they gonna charge the extra 3% tax on beer they are selling in the street?

NO! total b.s.

would someone please make the fritzels pay some tax already?

Matt Bowers 7 years, 9 months ago

Go to any other major college town and you are going to find the same thing. KU is in a process of positioning itself to become a basketball and football school. KU becoming a football school is vital to its survival. This is part of it and the entire town of Lawrence will benefit.

Funny how everyone is worried about downtown Lawrence, I hope none of you shop at Wal-Mart. I think the Oread is a fine a hotel.

Rock Chalk

infidel 7 years, 9 months ago

As long as the Hawk, Wheel and the Bull get to close off their street parking and sidewalks then perhaps they should be allowed, and all of Mass st could close and all parking lots around Lawrence bars could have a big tail gate and stop all parking around the town.

irvan moore 7 years, 9 months ago

i remember when this was a nice town and football Saturday was spent on the hill with friends and a whole bunch of people doin' fun stuff and having a picnic. maybe a little whiff of smoke drifting by once in a while, kids everywhere, a few dogs playing frisbee. no matter what "they" do it ain't the same and it's never gonna be. i wonder how the chamber feels about this, rob Peter to pay Paul?

knayte 7 years, 9 months ago

Excellent! This sounds fun. Can't wait for football season and can't wait to join my fellow Lawrencians in supporting our university and our community while the cranky naysayers are home grumbling to themselves.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 9 months ago

How does blocking off that intersection support your university or community?

Matt Torres 7 years, 9 months ago

It probably works by the same non-existant logic that having a yellow sticker on your car "supports the troops".

Richard Heckler 7 years, 9 months ago

Just say NO!

The Oread will not be able to contain the drinkers who will pee in the neighborhood yards. Wasn't this one of the reasons the old dilapidated very popular bar was axed?

This intersection is not designed well in the first place.

Come on City Commissioners this is one time you should tell your campaign contributors NO!

Respectfully, Merrill

Richard Heckler 7 years, 9 months ago

Promoting excessive drinking is irresponsible!

Bring on the highway patrol and other law enforcement!

Do alcohol checks in the of safety of the community!

Richard Heckler 7 years, 9 months ago

"If Oread gets to close 12th and Indiana for an outdoor party, downtown bars should get to close Mass and the cross streets and let people walk around outside with drinks."


Is The Oread becoming a neighborhood nuisance?

Bob Forer 7 years, 9 months ago

If they are even going to consider it, the commissioners need to assess a more than modest special use fee. Lets the neighborhood of $ 2,500. Also, a cash bond should be required to ensure the aftermath of garbage and debris is taken care of.

pizzapete 7 years, 9 months ago

How about they donate all their liquor sales that day to the city to pay for our roads, schools, library, etc. I would support it then. Wishful thinking.

imagold 7 years, 9 months ago

This hotel is way too big for its britches. They charge for parking or tell guests to park in the street or at the KS Union parking garage (free on weekends...for now) and now they want to close streets or parts of streets for tailgating. Who do they think they are...the Athletics Department?

silkiner 7 years, 9 months ago

Let us call this a crossing cluster !

VinoVeritas 7 years, 9 months ago

First of all, using the opinions of followers as a barometer for of general public opinion is completely inaccurate. Secondly, why does this move surprise all of you guys so much? We live in the United States, where even the slightest legislative decision is politically driven. Okay, so the commission has made a decision you disagree with, You feel it is unfair. Great, now find out who voted in favor of this and don't vote for them again. Congrats, you are now part of the democratic process.

As far as this setting a "dangerous precedent," no other bars are in such close proximity to the stadium. No other bar has the arena for tailgating this close to the stadium. No other bar has the financial means or manpower to clean up after a day of tailgating shenanigans.

I refuse to believe any of you complaining about the "increased traffic" and "excessive drinking" have ever been to a KU football game. The entire surrounding area is a big party with a TON of excessive drinking. Now, for the first season ever, there is a large business wanting to take some financial gain from this. Do you really think a bunch of college kids are going to run to a hotel, rack up a $80 tab binge drinking, and then puke all over your kids faces en route to the game? Because that's what it sounds like you're worried about.

Until we have seen this in action, there is nothing we can do or should be worried about. People have just as much of a chance dying from alcohol-related activities in front of the hotel as they do playing beer pong in front of a house on 9th and Maine.

I'm excited for football season, and hopefully the Oread is responsible with this new-found freedom.


VinoVeritas 7 years, 9 months ago

Maybe you should just leave the country. This a free-market economy where, ultimately, money-driven capitalists reign. Of course the Oread has advantages over small businesses. It's called investment capital and they have a crap ton of it. No one is making you support this particular business, just like you don't have support Wal-Mart or Nike or McDonalds. They speak English in New Zealand, you know. Hell, Australian women love our accents. Maybe you should check em out.

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