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NAACP accuses tea party of bigotry

July 14, 2010

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— Leaders of the country’s largest civil rights organization accused tea party activists on Tuesday of tolerating bigotry and approved a resolution condemning racism within the political movement.

The resolution was adopted during the annual convention in Kansas City of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, spokesman Chris Fleming said. Tea party organizers disputed claims of racism and called on the NAACP to withdraw the resolution.

Debate was mostly closed to the public, but the final version “calls on the tea party and all people of good will to repudiate the racist element and activities within the tea party,” said Hilary Shelton, director of the NAACP’s Washington bureau.

“I hope it will empower the tea party to actually look at itself and see that there are those who are noticing things that I think most tea partiers don’t want,” he said.

Sarah Palin, a vocal tea party supporter, said in a statement late Tuesday that she was “saddened by the NAACP’s claim that patriotic Americans ... are somehow ‘racists.’” The former Alaska governor said claims that tea party activists “judge people by the color of their skin” were false and appalling.

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Stuart Evans 4 years, 6 months ago

I make the same accusation right back at the NAACP!

Majestic42 4 years, 6 months ago

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Majestic42 4 years, 6 months ago

Oh, so name-calling pertaining to a GROUP of people is okay. Thanks for clearing that up, musbhiorlo.

bigbrothercfg 4 years, 6 months ago

Except the NAACP no longer supports the advancment of black people, it follows liberals agendas that hurt the very people they claim to wan to help. Make them dependent on the government instead of lifting them up to freedom.

Orwell 4 years, 6 months ago

How lucky for them that they have you to tell them what's best for them.

citizen0123 4 years, 6 months ago

make all the resolutions you want,theres a shortage of toilet paper.

citizen0123 4 years, 6 months ago

make all the resolutions you want,theres a shortage of toilet paper.

Mixolydian 4 years, 6 months ago

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 6 months ago

The only item in their toolbox is a hammer so they have to keep on claiming that every problem is a nail.

Amy Heeter 4 years, 6 months ago

They sure did cover alot of ground at that meeting.

Mel Briscoe 4 years, 6 months ago

how so? please explain yourself. oh let me guess, because it has COLORED people in its name, right? that's contrived and played out.

grammaddy 4 years, 6 months ago

The teabaggers aren't racists so they call upon the NAACP to withdraw their resolution condemning racism. right!

bigbrothercfg 4 years, 6 months ago

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jonas_opines 4 years, 6 months ago

Ooh! NAACP, Tea Party, and racism. This thread should go well!

/where's the popcorn?

Seriously, can we just lock the NAACP and the Tea Party into a large room or arena as necessary and let them take care of each other for the rest of us?

Grundoon Luna 4 years, 6 months ago

In this cage match my money's on the NAACP

denak 4 years, 6 months ago

The headline is misleading. The NAACP did not accuse the tea party of bigotry. What the resolution called for was for the Tea Party to repudiate "extremist elements" and "those who use racist language in their signs and speech." It does not make a blanket generalization about the whole tea party movement nor does it claim that "patriotic Americans are racist."

What the Tea Party leadership, including Sarah Palin, should have said in response to this resolution is " The Tea Party appreciates and shares the concerns of the NAACP. The Tea Pary movement catagorically denounces racism and extremism and will work diligently to create an atmosphere that promotes the values of our great country."

And then left it at that. They, the Tea Party, missed a golden opportunity to address these concerns. Instead, they became defensive and added fuel to the fire.

Dena

jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

Now THAT's something I completely agree with and back wholeheartedly! Sure wish those details had been spelled out in the article. Thanks, dena

BorderRuffian 4 years, 6 months ago

If the NAACP is calling upon the Tea Party to repudiate the "extremest elements," does that mean they are going to repudiate the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons in their own organization?

Majestic42 4 years, 6 months ago

Probably not, but they most definitely should.

denak 4 years, 6 months ago

The headline is misleading. The NAACP did not accuse the tea party of bigotry. What the resolution called for was for the Tea Party to repudiate "extremist elements" and "those who use racist language in their signs and speech." It does not make a blanket generalization about the whole tea party movement nor does it claim that "patriotic Americans are racist."

What the Tea Party leadership, including Sarah Palin, should have said in response to this resolution is " The Tea Party appreciates and shares the concerns of the NAACP. The Tea Pary movement catagorically denounces racism and extremism and will work diligently to create an atmosphere that promotes the values of our great country."

And then left it at that. They, the Tea Party, missed a golden opportunity to address these concerns. Instead, they became defensive and added fuel to the fire.

Dena

citizen4honor 4 years, 6 months ago

Why should the Tea Party Movement even respond? There has been ZERO evidence of any tea party being racist etc. When 1 Million tea party people marched in DC on Sept 12 last year - there were no arrests, no issues and they left the place as clean as when they arrived. Just the hard working Americans getting tired of lugging around those who want a hand out, tired of being called white racisits by likes of NAACP who HAVE TO CREATE a conflict or they serve no purpose. America did elect a black man - how can they say Americans are racists?

Majestic42 4 years, 6 months ago

Thanks, Dena. That's exactly the crux of the matter. Editorializing headlines is a problem, and should be looked at more closely.

salad 4 years, 6 months ago

Not sure if they're guilt of bigotry, but 100% sure they're guilty of crazy.

bigbrothercfg 4 years, 6 months ago

If following the rule of law, believing in the constitution, and being patriotic are crazy, you are correct, sign me up. It has nothing to do with race.

grammaddy 4 years, 6 months ago

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Grundoon Luna 4 years, 6 months ago

Is that so? Well, since they think that the healthcare legislation is stirpping them of their rights, when most are on Medicare or already have insurance, where were they when Bush raped the constitution, drove up the national debt to record levels, and trashed the economy? Until reasonable asnwers to those questions are provided as well and concrete plans for resolving our problem from them and those they support I will see them as nothing more than cry babies afflicted with Sore Loserism. I can't wait for November.

Jimo 4 years, 6 months ago

Dear Sir - the mere reference to the "New Black Panther Party" marks you out as a rube who spends excessive amounts of time living in a fantasy land called Fox News, disconnected from all reality.

NBPP doesn't have elements of racism; it is racism in action. But also a mutual alliance between left wing huckerism and right wing huckerism to push each other's agendas. For NBPP they get someone (anyone!) to pay attention to them. For Fox, they get ratings from easily alarmed fools.

FreshAirFanatic 4 years, 6 months ago

The NAACP gets the case against this guy for voter intimidation dropped, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBhzJn..., and then calls others racist.

Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.

Kash_Encarri 4 years, 6 months ago

Mr. Pot I'd like to introduce you to Mr. Kettle.

Sorry folks, but there are racists people of all faiths, ethnicity and skin color.

While there may be some tea partiers that are racists, there are many more who are not.

While there are many blacks who are racists, there are many more who are not.

When it comes to the NAACP, I'm not so sure you can make that statement.

Kash_Encarri 4 years, 6 months ago

Mr. Pot I'd like to introduce you to Mr. Kettle.

Sorry folks, but there are racists people of all faiths, ethnicity and skin color.

While there may be some tea partiers that are racists, there are many more who are not.

While there are many blacks who are racists, there are many more who are not.

When it comes to the NAACP, I'm not so sure you can make that statement.

Olympics 4 years, 6 months ago

From the Fox News corps (aka yahoo):

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_iowa_obama_billboard

Stay classy Republicans/Tea Baggers, stay classy.

remember_username 4 years, 6 months ago

Talk about preying on the fearful and naive.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 6 months ago

So many people overlook the racism because they like the rest of the message.

They do not realize that in that process, they are providing legitimacy to racists.

If they truly valued America, they would figure out how to present their same message WITHOUT the racists. By not doing so, they are promoting racism be it directly or though inaction does not matter.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 6 months ago

I agree with that and I am upset that La Raza does not do more to denounce Latino seperatists and that the Minutmen accept money from FAIR and do not do anything to silence racists within their own movement.

I am against racism, sexism, classism, religious discrimination and homophobia as a threat to America in all it´s forms, no matter the direction.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 6 months ago

That is part of what they wanted, another part was seperatism. Again, it is NOT acceptable to ignore the racist part of a message just because you like the other parts of their message.

There are many things La Raza says I agree with with all my heart and soul, however I do NOT support La Raza because they do not do everything in their power to denounce MECHA.

I support protecting our borders from illegal immigrants, drugs and terrorist, but i do NOT support Minutemen nor FAIR because of their ties with white supremecist groups.

I believe with all my heart that racism is pure evil and I will never look the other way.

Unfortunately, La Raza, NAACP, Minutemen, Tea Party do look away and by that action alone, advance the racist agenda in America.

Kathy Getto 4 years, 6 months ago

The most severe form of racisim denial is "reversal" which seems to be becoming a very familiar tactic of the extreme right. It is always easier to deny an imperfection, whether personal or institutional.

independant1 4 years, 6 months ago

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fancy80 4 years, 6 months ago

last time I checked, neither has the Tea Party.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 6 months ago

The NAACP´s mission is equality, not superiorty.

To be against equality is racist.

Stuart Evans 4 years, 6 months ago

someone should tell many of their members about this epiphany.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 6 months ago

Show me an example of anything you consider a call for black superiority?

I have problems with the NAACP because they have not fully denounced the Black Panthers, but I have yet to see a single message that suggests Black Superiority.

If you are going to say it, either prove it or shut ::::: up.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 6 months ago

well, goofball, I said that they should denounce them, and I have clearly called them out on their inaction.

But quite trying to avoid the question, show me where they have called for Black supremecy.

You can not because they have not.

Here are 10 exmples of tea party racism, check the slideshow of 10 teaparty racists signs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/16/10-most-offensive-tea-par_n_187554.html

whats_going_on 4 years, 6 months ago

I would love to hand over some weapons to a tiny room with all close minded right and close minded left ("extremists") and let them actually do some "good."

Seriously.

Steve Miller 4 years, 6 months ago

What else would you expect them to do, they are " pot stirers" ..

kscityrobber 4 years, 6 months ago

Rev. al , Rev jesse and the naacp dont want racism to die.. why would they. then there would be no use for them anymore... equallity is the last thing the above want...

Stuart Evans 4 years, 6 months ago

you nailed it. racism is their bread & butter.

Liberty275 4 years, 6 months ago

When the president addresses the NAAWP, you let us know. Okay?

grammaddy 4 years, 6 months ago

I always get a laugh out of comments like this. Who is preventing anyone from forming such a group?

Stuart Evans 4 years, 6 months ago

something tells me that you would have a HUGE problem with it gram. I bet the president would sue them too.

grammaddy 4 years, 6 months ago

I don't have a problem with that at all. the NAACP does not condone discrimnation against anyone. I suspect that no one has ever tried to form an NAAWP because white folks are the majority in this country (at least for now) and we make the rules.

Liberty275 4 years, 6 months ago

Working to Advance one racial group while not working to advance others seems a little racist to me. YMMV.

Stuart Evans 4 years, 6 months ago

they are the NEW black panther party. it's like the old one, but apparently now they hate white people...

independant1 4 years, 6 months ago

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Patty_Magnus 4 years, 6 months ago

There is much confusion in the world currently – more than usual, it seems. The Internet itself is very obviously an evolution that the elite did not expect. In fact, the combination of the Internet and the financial crisis has certainly proven toxic to certain elite dominant social themes. Global warming has been exposed, basically, as a hoax; Western fiscal and monetary policies are seen by many increasingly as a manipulation; and the economic crisis has undermined people's belief, both in the direction of the European Union and also, I believe, (see the Tea Party) as to where the American economy is headed as well.

I think it is perfectly likely that the next "shoe' falling will be an American one. We've maintained almost from the beginning of this crisis that the problem had to do with the failure of fiat currencies, generally, not with the insolvency of particular financial products or companies. The difficulty, in other words, lies at the monetary core. A broad swath of Western fiat currencies, including the dollar, are basically seen as insolvent by those who are forced to use them.

Conclusion: Investors, as pointed out, are going to continue to have a rough go of it. In the 20th century one could perhaps isolate dominant social themes and bet on them with some level of surety. And yes it is tempting to believe that level of infallibility exists today from an investing standoint. (Certainly it would make things eaiser.) But I simply don't think it's the case. (Nor am I unhappy to come to that conclusion.) Now I where it all ends up. But what comes afterward, in my view, when the crisis is finally over – really over – will be different than what we see today. That's a reality from my point of view, not a dominant social theme.

uncleandyt 4 years, 6 months ago

The Global Warming "hoax exposure" is a hoax.

citizen4honor 4 years, 6 months ago

What nasty signs? As bad as these?

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

Now what would have happened to anyone carry a sign with Bush replaced with Obama?

tomatogrower 4 years, 6 months ago

And I would repudiate anyone at a rally that I attended. Will you repudiate the racist signs? That's all the NAACP is asking.

citizen4honor 4 years, 6 months ago

What does your post have to do with Tea Party? Nothing. Obama as Stalin, Hitler or Joker? Same with Bush - what's the difference? Oh that right Obama's was not featured in Vanity Fair.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/03/obama-joker-poster-starts-outrage-bush-joker-poster-not-so-much

fancy80 4 years, 6 months ago

my response to this would be that every party has the "fringe crackpots", so while I agree the Tea Party should at every chance, say that they do NOT condone any behavior of racism or bigotry, or sexism, or ageism, or whatever we call people who put down religion, it might not be a bad idea for every party (ie Dems, Repubs, Indies, etc.) to do the same. Really, what is happening here is just another attempt to smear the Tea Party. For sure, you will see offensive behavior at the next DNC or RNC, or gathering of NAACP supporters, or Black Panther members. The truth is, that there will always be a few bad apples in every gathering, whether it be from actual members of that group, or people acting as members of that group.
I seriously doubt any one group, whether it be the Tea Party, or any other political group, where every single person in that group all have the same priorites and beliefs. Not all Republicans are old fat white bankers. Not all Democrats are card carrying labor union members. People should stop trying to generalize and label, and just try to respect that people form their opinions and beliefs, political or otherwise, from they way they are brought up, life experiences, and to a certain extent, the way issues are presented to them. Just because someone presents themself in a "cleaner, better-mannered, better dressed, and better educated" manner, doesn't make them right.

tomatogrower 4 years, 6 months ago

"Debate was mostly closed to the public, but the final version “calls on the tea party and all people of good will to repudiate the racist element and activities within the tea party,” said Hilary Shelton, director of the NAACP’s Washington bureau."

There are racist in the tea party. Are all the tea party member racist? No. That's why they are calling on the tea party supporters to "repudiate", or otherwise reject those within their group who have been openly racist. There is nothing bigoted about their statement. They aren't even saying the tea party is racist. What they are saying is there have been incidents at tea party rallies that are racist. Remember you are judged by the company you keep. If the tea party supporters do not want to be considered racists, then they should reject the support of those people who are.

fancy80 4 years, 6 months ago

as should Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Socialists, Communists, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Protestants, Athiests, New Yorkers, Kansans, Texans, Cheerleaders, Dads, and finally, last but certainly not least, Tomato Growers.

ilikestuff 4 years, 6 months ago

The NAACP, a once prominent organization has lost any and all credibility. With featured speakers like race hustlers Sharpton and Jackson how can anyone take them seriously.

Mixolydian 4 years, 6 months ago

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fancy80 4 years, 6 months ago

Ag, don't kid yourself. You aren't fooling anyone here. You refer to members of the Tea Party as Teabaggers, because you don't agree with them or what they believe in. That's fine. You're entitled to form, have and express your opinion. Freely. And there are other commenters here and across the country that agree with you. For every one of you, there is one of them (Tea Partiers).
By referring to Tea Partiers as teabaggers, and as (largely) hypocritcal, ignorant American citizens", you really do nothing more than devalue anything you have to say. It makes it hard to take you seriously. Seriously...

uncleandyt 4 years, 6 months ago

Well put, Agnost' !, and Bingo. The Teabag ideas and concerns come verbatim from AM radio listening-shows.

BorderRuffian 4 years, 6 months ago

Gosh, it all works out so nicely here. Just as predicted.

ANYONE who speaks out against Obama is automatically racist. Period. Is there something about this you just don't get?

tomatogrower 4 years, 6 months ago

"Debate was mostly closed to the public, but the final version “calls on the tea party and all people of good will to repudiate the racist element and activities within the tea party,” said Hilary Shelton, director of the NAACP’s Washington bureau."

Had you read the article and not just the incorrect headline, you would realize that they were asking the tea party supporters to get rid of those on their fringes who are racist. You can't tell me there aren't some radical racists supporting the tea party. If they are your representatives, then you will be perceived as racist. If you reject these people, and tell them you don't want them as part of your movement, then you will not be perceived as racist. That's all they are saying. If you aren't racist then don't let racists ruin your group. You might even gain some NAACP supporters.

esteshawk 4 years, 6 months ago

The "racism" accusations are because this movement was not present during the previous administrations deficit spending. If this was truly about preserving the Constitution, why were the teabaggers not up-in-arms about the Patriot Act? If this was truly about deficit spending, why where the teabaggers not up-in-arms about the Bush administration taking a surplus and driving it into deficit (apparantly it's okay to spend US taxpayers dollars in other countries to support Haliburton et al, but not okay to spend it here in Amercia on American infrastructure). So you see, when you strip away the "justifcations" of the teabaggers, the only explanation left is . . . racism.

And I use the term teabaggers because they walk around with teabags taped to their heads. . . . If you don't like the name, don't use the symbol.

fancy80 4 years, 6 months ago

conversely, where is the rage about the wars? where is the rage about privacy (cell phone eavesdropping). Strip all that away and it really just boils down to: when your guy does it, it's wrong. When my guy does it, it is the right and patriotic thing to do. Racism has nothing to do with it. Let's be clear...you use the term teabaggers" to demean the Tea Party.

"If you don't like the name, don't use the symbol".....so what is the donkey all about? Can Tea Partiers call Democrats, Asses?

Can't wait to see the headlines on that article...

jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

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jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

At least you're able to quote your inspiration for that post. And the brevity is refreshing.

Jeff Kilgore 4 years, 6 months ago

TPs are wrong. We are not overly taxed. The US is one of the least taxed countries in the affluent world. Secondly, their members have shouted out that the president should be shot, and if I remember right, a few have brought weapons. TPs think that they're modern day patriots when in reality, they're simply dusted off versions of the famous lelevision character, Archie Bunker. Sadly, that's who they are and where we are as a society.

jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

Brilliant. Ya gotta love the denigration of an argument. Begin with an incorrect point, proceed to support with an incredible minority of infiltrators, continue to a worthless point (as if the threats could have been carried out because "some" brought weapons -- even though the President has never been present at any of these gatherings), and the summation? They're all racists.

Utterly brilliant.

Olympics 4 years, 6 months ago

A teabaggin' Tea Party spokesman on the NAACP:

"You're dealing with people who are professional race-baiters, who make a very good living off this kind of thing. They make more money off of race than any slave trader ever. It's time groups like the NAACP went to the trash heap of history where they belong with all the other vile racist groups that emerged in our history."

Nothing to see here....I guess we liberals were wrong.
Stay classy Republican party.

Mike Ford 4 years, 6 months ago

there's two things the tea parties known for; being loud and having no idea what they're talking about. Bush gives tax breaks to the rich while cheney does backdoor energy policy meetings that lead to no eis studies on deepwater oil platforms... Bush encourages people to shop after 9/11 and people get equity loans on homes that are pointless once the market collapses and their homes are not worth what they borrowed against. Meanwhile, hedge funds are started to bet on odds of stock market tanking, all of this because of deregulation; what is one thing dumlblicans are always known for, deregulation, dumblicans take that smaller government deregulation albatross off your back.

The one thing the dumblicans can always count on is a rural unversed mostly white populace that already has a minority boogey man in their heads that they can associate fabricated stereotypes with, i.e. limousine liberal or elite or welfare cadillacs. I've heard all of this ignorance from ex-family members so I know what I'm talking about. They haven't been able to get away with being outwardly racist since the civil rights movements of the 1960's, so they come up with code terms that equal the same mindset and label anyone who realizes their racism as being politically correct. They try to skirt the racist words by claiming that they have a first amendment right to be racist. I ended up defending Ell Roberson as K-State was playing a bowl game on TV. My ex-grandfather played the Limbaugh blacks can't quarterback comment and he brought up the 1st amendment card. He's a tea partier so I know firsthand they're racist. The racist ex-grandfather wouldn't go to a New Orleans Hornets-Dallas Mavericks game with my family because he said the NBA stood for nothing but africans. This is why this tea party person is no longer my grandfather and is responsible for causing the deaths of two family members. In closing I love how these chuckleheads bring up the Black Panthers, and La Raza and would probably still bring up AIM if they had Ward Churchill around to use as a straw man. Minority groups such as the aforementioned existed because the majoriy culture looked the other way as public and job descrimination and racial violence happened and these groups came about to stand up for equality under the law. I find it sadly and wrongly hilarious that the beneficiaries of colonialism scream reverse racism against Latino and African peoples who to this day still have to deal with pay discrimination and lack of access in the inner cities and who say all the racist things they said on an Yahoo Iroquois Lacrosse AP story via the internet yesterday.

Mike Ford 4 years, 6 months ago

Racism is alive and well and from the looks of the mostly older and white audiences at these TP rallies is trying to talk racist code language from one side of their mouths and deny it from the other. Tea Party really.. are they organized... really? do they really have any new solutions.. no... this an attempt at a power grab by a bunch of angry caucasians who can't even come to the table with facts or organization. That Angle women doesn't even have the courage to go to a network other than the ones who softball her. I still love the Arkansas billy lady interrupting the Healthcare forum with her drawl stating I want my counnnntry backkk?

independant1 4 years, 6 months ago

no race of people are more racist than the next, evidently

booyalab 4 years, 6 months ago

Since Obama is half-white, how could one definitively determine whether anything negative directed towards him is directed at one half of his bloodline more than the other? Unless of course one of the tea partiers has actually said "Man! I hate the part of Obama that produced his higher melanin-content than the family that actually raised him!" If that is a common sentiment expressed in the Tea Party, by all means someone point me to where I can find it.

Mike Ford 4 years, 6 months ago

how is watching these people yelling and acting stupid at their gatherings projecting? I'm only calling what I'm seeing while studying idiots on FOX as part of my sociology observations. Since you can only accuse me of projecting, you're admitting I'm Correct... furthermore I love how they talk this whole smaller government bs without any specific facts or examples.. sooner or later they're going to have to show some continuity or be laughed at as nother more than racist Perot retreads like my ex-grandfather.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 6 months ago

10 Most Offensive Tea Party Signs And Extensive Photo Coverage From Tax Day Protests (PHOTOS) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/16/10-most-offensive-tea-par_n_187554.html

Tea party Organizer with a sign using the N word (very offensive, do not click if you do not want to see it) http://houstontps.org/audio/4995.jpg

Tea Party convention kicks off with racist rant http://trueslant.com/rickungar/2010/02/05/tea-party-convention-kicks-off-with-racist-rant/

More racist signs by teapartiers Tea Party and Racism – Lovers and Friends Part II http://mokellyreport.wordpress.com/2010/04/21/tea-party-and-racism-lovers-and-friends-part-ii/

Really, how do you dismiss all of this?

jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

Tusch, ivalue, olympics join the ranks of the Ignorant. Welcome to their club. You clowns apparently need to believe that all the people involved in tea party protests are simply racist. I feel sorry for you, I honestly do. Pick out the fringes and blanket them all; gee, that is reminiscent of something, ain't it?
You guys are no better than the handful of racists that infiltrate these gatherings. Congrats.

jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

Already have, on this string and numerous other times. And there have been tea party people who've done the same thing. But that's not what stirs the pot, now is it?

Olympics 4 years, 6 months ago

Stupid is as stupid does Jaywalker.

Why have a SPOKESMAN for your group make such a statement?

Vertigo, FTW.

jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

I certainly hope that "your group" isn't addressed to me, Olympics. I also believe you need to think that quote through for a couple of reasons: First, don't believe for a second that was some sort of organizational prepared statement, as this comment of yours seems to imply. Second, while the statement was ill-advised and somewhat irrational, I also hope you're not attempting to include it as proof of 'racism' in the movement. It was hot-headed but not much else.

jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

No sweat, vertigo. Actually wrestled with that, seemed you were merely speaking to the Tea Party rather than to me individually. Sometimes the 'reply' button gets confused with the general comments.

tomatogrower 4 years, 6 months ago

Even the NAACP is not saying all Tea Party supporters are racist. But if you hang out with those members who are openly racist, and you seem to welcome them, then it's easy to assume you are. Kick out those who are racist. Or do you agree with them?

Liberty275 4 years, 6 months ago

Should we kick out everyone we disagree with? Gord forbid people have differing opinions on various matters. We should be a hive.

booyalab 4 years, 6 months ago

I know this thread is old, but I have to argue against this idea that behavior can be prejudiced. Look up the definition of prejudice. It's a type of opinion.

esteshawk 4 years, 6 months ago

And Repubs like to project "lazy bum" or "socialist" as a label for all 'liberals."

Mike Ford 4 years, 6 months ago

quiet the fringes if you don't want to be called out. If you go to these meetings without any previous knowledge of what a constitutional bill is and you actually learn about the U.S. Constitution maybe you learn to realize that the Tea Party blends together bits and pieces and tells confused people what they want to hear and who they should be angry at like a tent preacher. Behind the guise of the tent preacher is republican retread Dick Armey of Texas. Nothing funnier and sadder than watching a confused bunch of older people who voted for the people who screwed this country between 2000 and 2008 trying to blame the ills of Bush on Obama. Mr Obama inherited these problems and is simotaneously fighting both the problem and trying to find solutions. How can the oil spill be Obama's problem when it was no review EIS documents following Bush's EPA precedent that led to the spill and a haliburton owned oil platform. The Tarp is actually being paid back right now by car companies and banks. A lot of things are going along that Tea Partiers want to shout over or ignore. Don't call me ignorant if you can't name ten declaration signers, the three branches of government or the difference between the Articles of Confederation and the U.S. Constitution.

Liberty275 4 years, 6 months ago

You should be nice to him. He's a victim.

uncleandyt 4 years, 6 months ago

This is that Projection stuff that Rush discovered a few months ago. awesome... I know I am

pace 4 years, 6 months ago

People who are prejudiced usually don't recognize it, they really feel "that" way or "think" that way. The tea baggers thought they would skate with the usual wink and a nod. Now they blink. If Sarah is bigoted she should of spoken out against the bigotry.

Liberty275 4 years, 6 months ago

People who are prejudiced usually don't recognize it tea baggers


wink and a nod bigotry

TopJayhawk 4 years, 6 months ago

Actually I just saw this on tv. The article is correct.

TopJayhawk 4 years, 6 months ago

The NAACP is just justifying it's continued existance.

independant1 4 years, 6 months ago

The NAACP is a shill for one political party over the other.

There is something wrong on the face of political affiliation of the black minority.

No party Dem/Rep/Ind/Lib has the market cornered on the best interests of the black minority.

No political party is more racist than the other. Party ideals, all of the mainstream parties, just have different views for supporting a persons right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. For example one can disagree that planned versus free market principles will enable a certain amount of freedom. Which is what we want? I think it's insane NAACP is so far entrenched in Dem party.

There are black/red/yellow/white/green conservatives and liberals. Why the black minority is so stubbornly >90% democrat boggles my mind. Black conservative scholars or black tea party members are not unusual people but listen to NAACP speakers about that?. Is there no diversity of political opinion in the NAACP? Obviously not. Methinks NAACP should be apolitical and invite their black conservatives into the fold and conservative principles into their discourse. This is why they are irrelevant, they are more of a religion or democrat party offshoot than an advocacy group.

tomatogrower 4 years, 6 months ago

"No party Dem/Rep/Ind/Lib has the market cornered on the best interests of the black minority" Agreed, except these parties do renounce openly racist members. The NAACP are just asking the tea party supporters to do the same. People are not going to take people in the tea party who want an open debate of their issues seriously, if the guy standing next to him is carrying a sign with racist words on it. The reason so many blacks go with the Democrats is because in modern history, that's who has stood up for them. When Johnson supported the Civil Rights Bill, he knew that he would hurt his party, because all the Southern, racist Democrats would jump ship. And to where did they jump? The Republican party. Are there racists in each party, yes. But are they allowed to have their own conferences at the conventions, no. All the NAACP is asking of the leaders of the tea party is to renounce those in their party who are racist. If they don't, then the assumption will be that they agree with the racism. Is that too much to ask? I really don't mind discussing the issues of the tea party, but not when they make racist remarks about the president. That includes the wierdo birthers. These people are getting in the way of any real discussion and work on solving the nations problems, so reject them from your party, if you want to be taken seriously.

Liberty275 4 years, 6 months ago

Agreed, except these parties do renounce openly racist members.

While helping to keep them enslaved to the whims of the federal government. The racists in the tea party are better friends of minorities than the snake oil salesmen that keep them subjugated to a government that cares just enough about them to buy their votes.

tomatogrower 4 years, 6 months ago

So you do support racists. That's all I need to know.

independant1 4 years, 6 months ago

NAACP calls upon tea party...NAACP pulled the 'when did you stop beating your wife' trick.

Those TPers/people are normal folk with an ax to grind, yet another interest group shouting loud to be heard for their cause. That's what we do you know, that's a popular method and it seems to have an effect.

If at military funerals ol' whathisname in topeka from that weird baptist church showed up at your son or daughters funeral with a sign should you offer an apology because you are guilty by association?

NAACP is arcane and is just another interest group.

I find a flaw here too, if you say all the old white racists left the democrat party and moved to the republican party. That's poppycock. Some left and some stayed behind, it wasn't a mason/dixon phenomena.

Also need to end this with - We got it good here, if ever there was a colorblind/country with equality, this is it. I marvel at it every day at home, at work and if I went to church would do so there too.

Besides, ain't worried about a thing now that Iran will look out for our human rights at the UN.

Patty_Magnus 4 years, 6 months ago

I see the news is reporting that Obama thinks that Al queda is racist also.

An US administration official said al-Qaeda was racist and used black Africans as "cannon fodder".

In an interview on South African television, Mr Obama said: "What you've seen in some of the statements that have been made by these terrorist organisations is that they do not regard African life as valuable in and of itself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us+canada-10635806

ivalueamerica 4 years, 6 months ago

I think most of agree that the NAACP should do more to denounce seperatist groups like the Black Panthers and that the Tea Party should do more to denounce their racist members and that La Raza should do more to denounce groups like Mecha.

The one thing that is a glaring difference is, at La Raza events, NAACP events, if there are racist signs, speakers or activities, the folks doing that are sent away.

At Tea Party events, as evidenced by a mountain of fotos and videos and eye-witness reports, simply look the other way and in many cases, applaud.

That difference is significant and can not be ignored or swept under the carpet.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 6 months ago

the dishonesty in your post is that they are racist people, they are not saying or doing racist things at the events.

A very important distinction.

And again, you ONLY apply it to NAACP and not the teabaggers, showing that you condone it.

I have denounced it on both sides.

It exposes much about you.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 6 months ago

i have posted the proof more than a half a dozen times, including the teabagger founder holding signs at teabag events with the N word.

If you chose to pretend not to see that, and choose to excuse it, then you support racism. I have never seen a sign that says kill whitey at an NAACP meeting and the one time I saw a sign that said trash the whites at a La Raza event, the event organizer called the police to have them removed.

The teabag founder with the sign with the N word was applauded and allowed to remain.

You support that, so your motive is clear, it does not bother you.

tomatogrower 4 years, 6 months ago

Did you know that you can join NAACP and La Raza and still be white? Did you know that they accept white people? What's stopping you? If someone showed up at an NAACP rally with George Bush in a KluKluxKlan hood, they would be asked to leave. Why can't tea party members ask people at their rallies with racist signs to leave? Please give me examples of how Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are racists? I might agree with you on Louis Farrakhan, but he isn't exactly a major force anywhere but with his own followers. Can you give me quotes where LaRaza has said they want white people to die or be slaves? Or that they think whites are inferior? Have they ever done anything, but encourage hispanics to succeed? Evidence of their racism please.

fancy80 4 years, 6 months ago

how many La Raza events have you been to? How many NAACP events have you been to? You have personal knowledge that "if" a racist comment is made, or "if" a racist sign is presented at one of those events, the person responsible for the offensive comment or sign, is sent away? Always, without exception...really?

Look, all I'm trying to say is that for every time someone is asked to put a sign away at a NAACP event, or La Raza event, there is probably a similar event taking place at a Tea Party event. To say one group ALWAYS handles it the correct way, and the "teabaggers" NEVER handle it the right way, just seems to be a very broad, generalized statement.

Perhaps you have been to all of the events above and know first hand of which you speak, with regards to every instance. But I sort of doubt it...as for me, I've been to none of the events. It just really seems that there is a very large group of people trying everything they can think of to discredit the Tea Partiers and what they believe in. I do not belong to the Tea Party, but EVERY group has some bad apples. I hope for the Tea Party's existence, that they move forward with expressed desire to distance themselves from the bad apples. I'll take it one step further and say I sincerely hope anytime ANY group of people are gathered and racism, ageism, sexism, etc. rears it's ugly head, that the group, as a whole, condemns the offensive act or comment.

gogoplata 4 years, 6 months ago

Who cares what the NAACP has to say? Not me. I wouldn't listen to a speaker from the NAAWP either. If such a group existed.

Obama doesn't suck because his black. He sucks because of his policies. GWB sucked too and he was white. Being a crappy president does not depend on your skin color.

tomatogrower 4 years, 6 months ago

Then if you go to a rally with people who use racist words on their signs, you will tell them that they are hurting your cause, right? Or will you applaud them?

gogoplata 4 years, 6 months ago

People have the right to not like other people for any reason they choose. I may try to reason with some to show them why I believe that racism is silly but I would never try to force anyone to stop doing anything that isn't actually harming someone else.

Racism that does not go beyond thoughts and beliefs is an individual right that is protected by our constitution.

ivalueamerica 4 years, 6 months ago

IT BEARS REPEATING

10 Most Offensive Tea Party Signs And Extensive Photo Coverage From Tax Day Protests (PHOTOS) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04...

Tea party Organizer with a sign using the N word (very offensive, do not click if you do not want to see it) http://houstontps.org/audio/4995.jpg

Tea Party convention kicks off with racist rant http://trueslant.com/rickungar/2010/0...

More racist signs by teapartiers Tea Party and Racism – Lovers and Friends Part II http://mokellyreport.wordpress.com/20...

Really, how do you dismiss all of this?

Olympics 4 years, 6 months ago

Have you heard about the New Black Panther Party? No? Well, you must not be watching Fox News, which has spent the last week treating the fringe group as the greatest threat to democracy since... well, since health care reform.

So: Idiots. I trust you're familiar with them? Recently, motivated entirely by their selfless concern for others, they have been very worried about an incident in Philadelphia in 2008, when two members of the laughable fringe radical outfit the New Black Panther Party stood outside a polling place in fatigues and sort of vaguely brandished a nightstick and looked intimidating.

Here are some facts about that incident: The polling place was in a heavily black, heavily Democratic district. Police were called, and the two men were ushered away. No one has come forward to say they were intimidated. The Justice Department—at the time still controlled by the Bush administration—decided not to file criminal charges.

http://gawker.com/5587578/why-is-fox-news-megyn-kelly-obsessed-with-the-new-black-panthers

jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

Hoooonk!! Thanks for playing, but a number of people came forward to say they were intimidated. Why would the JD even have considered filing charges otherwise? And nice try, but the JD that made the call "not to file criminal charges" was under the present administration. Tha'ts one of the reasons this story has blown up due to the whistle blower who came forward with the reasons behind the case's dismissal. Also, the same individual brandishing the baton has been filmed advocating the "killing of crackers" and their "babies."

And who are you calling "idiots" that are familiar with "them"? You wrote this piece as if you've been glued to FoxNews all week. Self-deprecation, perhaps?

Lastly, there's rarely anything "laughable" about any "radical, fringe outfit", in case you hadn't noticed.

PU, Olympics. That was one dreadful attempt at a post.

uncleandyt 4 years, 6 months ago

Olympics has it right. Fox puts out mis-information (ACORN, Climate-Gate, Black Panthers...) that gets gullibled about. If the truth comes out a few months later, the faithful, strangely, cling harder to the falsehoods. It's very weird, and I wish y'all would simply check out some additional sources for info. Compare the reports, then decide.

Mike Ford 4 years, 6 months ago

Iamtired, it took awhile working and all to reply back to you.. but you are entirely wrong about me. I formulate my views from about seven different sources on most occasions. The best views come from a potpourri of sources. I create talking points from synthesizing all of these view points I observe on a subject. My opinion is hardly ever from a textbook. Both parents had masters or doctorates in their fields. Being Choctaw, I don't subscribe to textbooks anyway. Textbooks doing a wonderful "Avatar" or "Dances with Wolves" summarizing without all of the genocide and the real history that majority cultures can't deal with or try to marginalize because they know they either did or benefitted from wrongs. They try to blame the people they affected to marginalize them further. Which brings me to another point.... yes the tea party is racist due to the marginalization that they try to pull on the people they offend, and yes they have no platform. Lower taxes..... really. where's the revenue coming from now genius? Lower taxes for whom... the rich people that have always gotten the breaks going back to the Rockefellers who opposed the federal income taxes in the 1910's-1920's? I love how these genuises can talk lower taxes when their policies even in the state of kansas have caused so much grief. In the late 1990's it would've been prudent to put back surpluses for rainy days so to speak. But no, the genius kansas dumblicans decided to give tax refunds and the people who complain about welfare got tax refunds. Never mind saving money for a rainy day. I remember the checkbook republicans like my grandfather who were always concerned about being solvent because of the Great Depression. I guess the dumblicans and the tealicans have ran the smart fiscally responsible republicans off. Tealicans are racist and they're running off the good people in the GOP. I say this as a Democrat.

Boston_Corbett 4 years, 6 months ago

citizen4honor appears to be nothing more than another incarnation of Armenius/Kevin G.

pace 4 years, 6 months ago

If a few of the critics who call for the NAACP to denounce more black people for their remarks would stand up and denounce the people in their party for their remarks such as the Kansan republican who called for a great white hope or denounced the tea party for their racial signs, they might have a leg to stand on. But that would mean standing up, not whining from the side lines. They also should join the NAACP and show they are against racism.

jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

" yes the tea party is racist due to the marginalization that they try to pull on the people they offend,"

Marginalization? You mean like taking the actions of a few and categorizing them all into the margin of racists? Tusch, your eyes gotta be brown your so full of it. And not for nothin', but what the hell does being Choctaw have to do with a lack of adherence to textbooks, as if THAT's the 'enlightened' tribe? Every textbook has obfuscations and voids, but they're not completely without facts. One can fill in the blanks, particularly if they purport to to filter as you claim to do.

jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

you are is "you're" you are is "you're" you are is "you're"

pace 4 years, 6 months ago

Boring. It's a pity or it is just pitiful you all can't stay on topic cause of of your grammar police addiction. Don't worry so much, no one is going to think you are smart, educated or cultured because you interrupt a conversation with such noise. They won't think any less. couldn't. Everyone admires trolls, nothing more powerful than someone who has to be rude by pointing out such edifying points.

jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

I'm assuming you're excoriating yourself, moron, as my "you're" reference was to my own post. But way to keep up the 'pace', as it were.

Mike Ford 4 years, 6 months ago

jaywalker, until 20 years ago, history textbooks about all minorities were written with a white colonial view. That's the way George Will, William Bennett, and Cal Thomas wanted it. In their views, the actions of the majority no matter how nefarious they were became speedbumbs in the story of America. As more minorities broke through the denial of other histories wall, chuckleheads like Pat Buchanan yelled historical revisionism. No one wanted the white washed view of history to go away. There were the minor denialists like Elizabeth Tooker and the major denialists like David Duke. People are still finding ways to deny the other history of America as political correctness. I guess the opposite is american ignorance which I've seen and experienced plenty of in my forty years of life in places like LA and MS before moving here. Telling me I'm full of it is just another example of American ignorance. Telling me I'm full of it is admitting I'm right. I've seen angry southern MS people in person who are tea partiers and act despicably and sound like people here. If it walks and talks like a dog, it must be a dog. The Choctaw language was used as an unbreakable code language in World War One. Chahta iskatini anumpuli. If you aren't racist and you feel like I'm mislabeling the tea partiers, get rid of the witch doctor signs, get some historical concept and stop acting like a bunch of morons putting a Hitler mustache on Mr. Obama. That's as historically disconnected as all of the confederate flags I see around here in an area that was Union during the Civil War. People anymore are completely clueless when it comes to history. Hitler was closer to the facism of purity and racial cleansing. Gee I wonder what the Tea party is closer to?

jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

Sorry you wasted your time, tusch, but you blew it with the first two sentences. After that there's no point reading further.

uncleandyt 4 years, 6 months ago

please read further, and if your mind wanders, that's OK, re-read from where you spaced off or stopped comprehending. tusch is making sense. Don't be anti-sense

jaywalker 4 years, 6 months ago

Then don't be you. Tusch might make sense from time to time, but it's wading through the rest of his lectures that proves tiresome. They always swerve to some function of Indian historia, and they're all over the place with sprinkles of crappola. Sorry, that ain't worth my time. Waste your own.

TopJayhawk 4 years, 6 months ago

Tomato grower. In fact Johnson never would have gotten his civil rights stuff passed if it wasn't for Republicans. Blue dogs did not jump to the Republican party, they just did not vote Dem on this issue. Check your history there and stop trying to spin it.

tomatogrower 4 years, 6 months ago

Agreed, most Republican lawmakers were in favor of the civil rights bill. I was talking about the aftermath. When the racist Democrats jumped ship to the Republican party, the perception of the Republican party changed. I don't think all Republicans are racists and I don't think all tea bag people are racists. But they need to tell those in their ranks who are racists, that their behavior is unacceptable.

In the past there have been people who had very good issues to bring up, but they do something stupid, like burn the US flag. All of a sudden their issues are put on the back burner, and the discussion turns to flag burning. It's the same. If you want to be taken seriously repudiate the racists. Then people will listen to your issues. If you continue to defend the racists in your ranks, then that becomes the issue. There goes the discussion of health care, taxes, the economy, etc.

Mike Ford 4 years, 6 months ago

why because you deny what pther people go through. Nice statement when you know I'm right. throwing the whole you suck thing at somebody is admitting they're right. thanks for the hollow admission. Just like the rest of your denying cronies.

George Lippencott 4 years, 6 months ago

Somebody help me. If I wanted to communicate with the head of the national tea party to whom would I write? Does anybody know what the national platform might be?

Mike Ford 4 years, 6 months ago

nice try Iamtired. My ancestors are on the Oklahoma Dawes Choctaw rolls as Mississippi Choctaws who didn't emigrate to Oklahoma by 1906, the date that sooners or white people abolished tribal governments with the help of a Kaw Indian sellout named Charles Curtis who chose to screw over Indian Nations in Oklahoma by amending the Dawes Allotment Act in 1898 to screw over the Five Civilized and Educated tribes and steal their lands. As such, I am a Mowa Choctaw person. This tribe is based in Mt. Vernon, Alabama, with over 5,000 members, many of whom speak Choctaw. Their tribal linguist has a masters degree in linguistics from KU. Why do you people continue to call educated people liberals? I sense a resentment of educated people here.

jimmyjms 4 years, 6 months ago

"In the past there have been people who had very good issues to bring up, but they do something stupid, like burn the US flag."

Is that stupid? Here I thought it was a) protected free speech as enumerated by the very first of the amendments, and b) defined by the flag code as the proper way to retire a flag (I realize the difference in intent).

I am personally way more offended by idiots who somehow think that an America flag shirt from Walmart is appropriate. Ever.

tunahelper 4 years, 6 months ago

its sad when the naacp can call the Tea Party racists, even though there has NOT been any evidence of racism, and get away with it because it's their 1st Amendment right!

But when a white American disagrees with the naacp or omaba, they are labeled racists. what a crock of bologna!

The Tea Parties in Kansas that I have been to had many Latinos, Asians, and even Blacks present! what the naacp really hates are conservative Blacks. what a bunch of hypocrites.

p.s. Andrew Wilkow is my hero!

independant1 4 years, 6 months ago

Thomas Sowell - Walter Williams - Booker T. Washington mine

beatrice 4 years, 6 months ago

Claiming that all disagrements with the President leads to charges of racism is a bunch of garbage! Quit playing the victim card already!

tomatogrower 4 years, 6 months ago

Mark Williams proved you wrong about there being racism in the party, but the Tea Party was listening to the NAACP complaints and got rid of him. Good for the Tea Party. Thank you. http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/18/tea.party.imbroglio/index.html?hpt=T1

yankeevet 4 years, 6 months ago

The naacp is a racist organization.................just that simple............

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