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Dutch agency: Mistakes in U.N. climate report don’t affect outcome

July 6, 2010


— A leading Dutch environmental agency, taking the blame for one of the glaring errors that undermined the credibility of a seminal U.N. report on climate change, said Monday it has discovered more small mistakes and urged the panel to be more careful.

But the review by the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency claimed that none of the errors affected the fundamental conclusion by U.N. panel of scientists: that global warming caused by humans already is happening and is threatening the lives and well-being of millions of people.

Mistakes discovered in the 3,000-page report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change last year fed into an atmosphere of skepticism over the reliability of climate scientists who have been warning for many years that human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases could have catastrophic consequences, including rising sea levels, drought and the extinction of nearly one-third of the Earth’s species.


P Allen Macfarlane 7 years, 11 months ago

Tom, Were I in a generous mood, I would call your second paragraph a mistake or perhaps a blunder. However, your penchant for name calling and negative labeling of anybody who disagrees with you just indicates the anger of an old, white middle-aged, middle class guy. Get over it!

devobrun 7 years, 11 months ago

Science has become politics. When science got big, more money was needed to endeavor to explain bigger and bigger things, like the universe and the earth's climate. These scientific projects are so big in scope that they can only be done over decades and using billions of dollars. Thus, they are projects run by governments.

Governments are political things and therefore, big science is political. The political argument used to be over which projects would get funded and the scientists fought over the allocations. But scientists wised up and realized that by linking their particular research to the goals of politicians, they could allow themselves to be used politically and guarantee continued funding.

Global warming is a prime example of science as politics.
The general public is naive to the sad state of science today.

But now the government/research linkage is becoming overt:

The director of NASA has stated that Obama's instruction to him was to educate kids, and advance diplomacy. That's it. His job as director of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration is to promote political goals.
NASA's Jim Hanson at GISS does a similar thing regarding global warming.

Science is dead. Science is now a political tool. Instead of discovery, science is about the right kind of discovery. The politically expedient discovery. A sad end to centuries of advancement of rational thought, replaced by political goals.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 11 months ago

Science has always been affected by politics. Including yours.

devobrun 7 years, 11 months ago

Of course politics has always effected science, bozo.
The difference now is that science has become a tool for politicians. Science now exists to support political exigencies. Don't think that I limit my criticism to democrat leaders. This has been going on for a decades, but as the linkage between government and research becomes stronger and stronger, independent investigations are squeezed out.

Breakthrough science just isn't happening. Humongous, cumbersome, highly bureaucratic and inefficient science is being conducted by massive government agencies. And that's it. University researchers used to be encouraged to publish. Now they are encouraged to publish, go to D.C. for year sabbatical, and direct programs that feed the university research. You don't really move up in a university research setting unless you are plugged into a massive research effort that is multinational, educational (for high schoolers), and popular. Er, ah, politically popular.

Thomas Kuhn's paradigm shift is nowhere to be found. Karl Popper's insistence on experimentation toward falsification is a quaint notion of the past. Today, the goal of science is to support (in a positive logic way) a political view. It is science in support of indoctrination, political power, social engineering, and feeding the guilt trip.

It isn't about learning, it is about persuading. It is there to feed a propaganda machine.
It doesn't matter whether you agree with the propaganda or is gone, and that is a sad thing.

Flap Doodle 7 years, 11 months ago

Pay no attention to the Al Gore behind the curtain.

bendover61 7 years, 11 months ago

Of course mistakes don't affect the outcome, neither do facts.

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