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Oread hotel looking to close streets for football block parties

A screenshot of a map on the Oread's application shows the streets the hotel would like to close on football game days for block parties.

A screenshot of a map on the Oread's application shows the streets the hotel would like to close on football game days for block parties.

July 2, 2010

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The owners of a new restaurant and bar complex near the Kansas University campus are looking to kick off a round of block parties during KU football game days this coming season.

They just need the city’s permission to use the public’s property.

Tuesday night, Lawrence city commissioners will consider whether to approve a permit to allow owners of The Oread, 1200 Oread Ave., to close portions of 12th Street, Oread Avenue and Indiana Street for a series of block parties.

The first party would be Aug. 27, and then continue on each of the KU football team’s six home dates at nearby Memorial Stadium, beginning with North Dakota State on Sept. 4.

Events would be expected to continue until midnight, and include food sales, street vendors, live entertainment, carnival games, exhibits, inflatables and sales of alcoholic beverages.

“It’s a request that we have to consider as to whether we allow them to use the public right-of-way to hold a party,” said Mayor Mike Amyx, who expects to learn more about the request before Tuesday’s meeting. “We’ll take everything into consideration, especially the comments of owners of adjoining properties.”

Phil Harrison, who owns adjacent rental property, has objected to the request, writing to city officials that he and his tenants endure problems with activities associated with The Oread and its nightclubs.

“Our tenants have already suffered enough through the construction process when dust, construction debris, construction noise and unreasonable loss of access were experienced,” Harrison said. “Now, to put them through a series of drunken brawls going on until midnight on the public streets outside their residences is simply too much.”

Attempts to reach Nancy Longhurst, general manager for The Olivia Collection, which includes The Oread and the Eldridge Hotel downtown, were unsuccessful Friday.

The public portion of the commissioners’ meeting is expected to begin about 6:35 p.m. Tuesday at City Hall, Sixth and Massachusetts streets.

Comments

flyin_squirrel 5 years ago

If they are allowing it to happen downtown, why shouldn't the Oread Inn, The Wheel, The Hawk, The Bull, Louises West, etc... be allowed to do it as well.

Good to see it is going to be a family event, but why do they need beer at a family event? Of course this is also the Power n Light Bar District disguised as a hotel called the Oread Inn, so why wouldn't they have beer... Oh it must be great to be KING!

Uhjh 5 years ago

No way!! They have plenty of indoor space. If the Oread gets to do it then why not the Wheel, Hawk and Stoop (Bullwinkles). The Oread neighbor association is just so fickle they will probably justify this somehow then whine.

dontcallmedan 5 years ago

The Oread Neighborhood Association was recently taken over by developers and landlords and should put up little resistance.

thelonious 5 years ago

No, no, and h no! Everyone get on board with Phil Harrison, please. Just imagine if you had to live next to this. The city should reject this outright, as in addition to just being a bad idea, it also would set very bad precedent.

Also, traffic in the area is already a nightmare on football days - this will just make it darn near impossible!

Bad idea, city commission, please reject!

Mary Ellen Hall 5 years ago

I don't know who you are, but I love you!! That shiz's freakin' FUNNY!!! Thank you for making me laugh.

puddleglum 5 years ago

too funny!!!

deregulate everything! especially oil drilling and wall street! these people need to make some money.

Jonathan Becker 5 years ago

This most excellent proposal suggests to close part of public access to Memorial Stadium before and/or after a game. There is a compound word in the English language that begins with "cluster" and ends with a modern derivative of the Middle Dutch word 'fokken' that aptly describes the parking mess.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years ago

The ONA still exists? Wasn't it replaced by the Oread Landlords' Association.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 5 years ago

So when the home game isn't in KC, Oread will be having a block party, annoying all its neighbors more than usual, and sucking even more business away from downtown.

parrothead8 5 years ago

Exactly. I would add that if downtown business owners aren't at City Hall on Tuesday night raising their voices against this plan, then they deserve some of the blame for the business they lose.

d_prowess 5 years ago

I think this is a bad idea. It will just clog up the whole area and cause way too many problems for the folks that live around there. I am supportive of the hotel, but this takes it too far.

Evan Ridenour 5 years ago

Legal parties in the streets of a residential neighborhood.... ya, nothing bad could come of that.....

Evan Ridenour 5 years ago

I will admit I would attend it and I would probably enjoy doing so but I fully understand why it is a bad idea and if I lived around there I would be pissed off.

I can't imagine there is anything the owners of the Oread could do to make this idea palatable to the people who live around there.

irvan moore 5 years ago

won't it make it hard for property owners to park cars in their front (and side and rear) yards?

dncinnanc 5 years ago

Party poopers... what a great idea! There are already plenty of tailgate parties and people wandering aimlessly across the streets by the stadium, might as well block a few streets off and have it be more organized! Once again, it is a personal choice to live near a college stadium... and exactly why I choose NOT to live in that neighborhood but visit it for football games.

9070811 5 years ago

What a horrible idea! Can't believe they would even have the audacity to ask for this special permission. Block off emergency routes and make it even more of clusterfluck than it already is. Getting through there is tough enough as it is. I think that the property owners adjacent to the drunken block party should have the most say. It highly increases the chance of property damage and disturbances in the surrounding neighborhoods. It isn't going to just affect those outlined in the blueprint. It will ultimately affect the entire north end of the campus neighborhoods.

mdrndgtl 5 years ago

Haven't they closed enough streets.

beatrice 5 years ago

Why not close the Oread for business so families can party in the hallways?

KU_cynic 5 years ago

What I object to is the "alcohol sales" aspect of this. If you bring your own cooler and want to hang out and tailgate, is that okay? Or, do you have to buy $6 beers from the Oread Inn to imbide legally on the streets?

puddleglum 5 years ago

don't forget that you will have to pay the extra 3%tax on those beers, so the fritzels can recoup more money because they only got $12 million from the city and you all know that isn't enough.

igby 5 years ago

This hotel already causes enough problems with congestion so they think they need to block off all the roads with a block party. This is just greed and stupid at best.

No!

They do have enough to sell in the hotel to meet the public demand they don't need to bring the party out into the streets.

Uhjh 5 years ago

OK what a crummy idea the difference between this and blocking of a Downtown area is this area is a residual area. These greeting mofos have already had too many concessions from the city. If the city caves into this the city commissioners are just a bunch of wh*res that will roll over for a buck if not a quarter. Wouldn’t an okay on this displace revenue from the precious Mass Street? Get a backbone (ha ha) and do the right thing if you can even have a clue what that is. I am sick of the good old boy crap. Come on Amyx take the road kill off your head and forget your vanity and think for once!

Alabamastreet 5 years ago

residual area? That would seem to be an argument for allowing this.

newmedia 5 years ago

Here's hoping there is as much excitement inside the stadium as there is on the outside this fall!

Richard Heckler 5 years ago

It would be an invasion of privacy for the residential dwellers and property owners.

All of that pissing on lawns and rowdy behavior that was going to be resolved by eliminating the local bar is now coming back to the neighborhood ten times over.

The tailgating in the KU parking lot should suffice. People do seem to enjoy that a great deal.

Another way to kill downtown revenue is simply bad business and not acceptable!

Talk about more traffic jams than ever.

pandazrule 5 years ago

While I enjoy the block parties downtown, I agree that having one in a residential area seems like a really bad idea. I couldn't help thinking about the people who live in that cul-de-sac on 12th or of the organizations that generate revenue selling parking spaces on game days. Parking is hard enough for residents on game days with further obstruction--people living in the area still need to go to their jobs, study, go grocery shopping, etc. In addition, it looks like ECM would be completely blocked in; not only do people live there, but on the weekend, group meetings, conferences, weddings (just to name a few events) go on at ECM. I can't imagine how blocking off their parking could possibly benefit the people living in the area or ECM.

Flap Doodle 5 years ago

Waiting for the next cool/bronze/spiderham reincarnation.....

John Kyle 5 years ago

I noticed they labeled Louisiana street as Ohio street. They want to block off the streets but they don't even know what streets are there!

JSDAD 5 years ago

so now they want to go head to head with big Lou over the tailgate revenues KU has spent so much to siphon out of the downtown. or are they working together to get the rest of the downtown merchants peice of the pie.

been_there 5 years ago

"Private resident's properties to be.....and left in the same condition as before the event" You had better take pictures of your property before the event otherwise you will have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it did not happen before. If that is not the case, got any broken windows or other things that need fixing?

nekansan 5 years ago

If we are going to permit block parties, auction off the permits to the highest bidder for each occurrence. There is no reason the Oread should be the only business benefiting from a public street being closed. Allow anyone to bid for the block party permits and make it competitive, rather than a gift in the pocket of a single existing business. This benefits the city as well in the form of additional revenue.

I'd also like to see the city design a higher tax on the revenue from a temporary liquor/beer license so the city as a whole get a cut of the profits these businesses generate when operating on public property..

overthemoon 5 years ago

and pay for the increased police and safety efforts needed.

dogsandcats 5 years ago

No way! It is inappropriate to close off public streets for a KU athletics related block party. If they left 12th and Indian open, and only blocked off Oread starting just past the ECM driveway, it would be much more appropriate. It would all be on campus and not in front of private residences.

George_Braziller 5 years ago

I lived at 9th and Indiana for nearly eight years. Even then the traffic up Indiana was horrible on game days. Close off one of the few entrances to the main campus from the north? Really, really, really bad idea.

Jeff Cuttell 5 years ago

Great idea! The more fun Lawrence can make fan visits, the better. If the downtown businesses want to keep people down there, they should get together and do their own thing. There's plenty to go around. They would have to promote it heavily, though. Many times they just think, "you do it, they will come". Then they whine about lost revenues. Quit whining and give people a reason to plan to come to you.

chocolateplease 5 years ago

This is a great idea for the Hotel, since they'd get to profit from the use of public land (the streets) for their own business endeavors. Who cleans it all up? Who pays for the extra security needs? I admit it sounds like fun for the fans who choose to participate. Personally, I'd never bring kids there with alcohol sales going on, and I'm guessing that alcohol sales are the #1 thing they want and the rest (carnival stuff) is just window dressing.

What I'd object to is doing anything like this without a full and fair hearing of what the neighbors have to say. Just imagine if you live there! And if you have young children or older folks who prefer their home to be a peaceful refuge, they can forget about it. And what about neighbors coming home later who need street access? And if people start getting rowdy, or if they litter, or if someone gets hurt, who exactly is liable? I'd want nothing to do with it. And if I had a kid who went to KU, I'd be annoyed if the University went along with this kind of thing (a drinking extravaganza on every game day! yay!)

lawrencenerd 5 years ago

The neighborhood is already overrun with drunks, vandalism, violent crime, and a near complete lack of police patrols. Why not make it worse? After all, we wouldn't want the poor college students to have to be sober by themselves! Hell, why don't we just quit teaching at the university and turn it into one big 24/7 party, anything goes, and no laws apply! Who cares if people get assaulted, stolen from, or have their property vandalized. Everybody knows drunken anarchy is what college is all about.

Marcia Epstein 5 years ago

08:15 Tuesday 7.6.10 Email to Lawrence City Commission:

Greetings,

Our family has lived in the Oread Neighborhood for over 20 years. We have seen unfortunate changes in behaviors of significant numbers of people visiting and living in our neighborhood during the past 5 of so years, largely related to alcohol abuse and the poor judgment that can result.

I realize that The Oread Inn is making great effort to be a good neighbor as well as a successful business. However, I believe that there are so many ramifications of their request for a series of outdoor parties following home football games that granting their request should be only occur after significant consideration of issues including traffic flow, safety, the difficulty of preventing underage drinking in such a setting, and the impact on neighboring areas and properties including ECM.

The public announcement of their request occurred during a holiday weekend, limiting input from the community, particularly in light of the short notice before the item is on your agenda. For me personally, my work has been particularly demanding, and I'm now on my way to report to jury duty, and I just haven't had time to carefully consider and write my thoughts. In addition, I am unable to attend tonight's meeting as I facilitate our bereavement after suicide group starting at 7pm tonight.

Certainly one option for The Oread is to partner with their downtown hotel, and shuttle people to and from a downtown event. Downtown is a shopping and entertainment area, as opposed to a residential area. Downtown is already the site for a variety of successful outdoor events.

I greatly appreciate your consideration of my request to either deny their request or defer for additional consideration.

Thanks very much, Marcia Epstein

del888 5 years ago

Hey city.... while your at it, I'd like to close down 3 blocks of Kasold Dr for a pary next week. Can you put that on the agenda.

Michael Sizemore 5 years ago

Love it - couldn't happen to a nicer set of neighbors who threw their support behind that monstrosity! Enjoy the party girls! There should be some sick "stage diving"!

Tom McCune 5 years ago

The Oread Hotel should pay rent to the city for the use of these public spaces that would be used to house their for-profit events. They should also pay for added police protection. $100,000 per day for rent of public property and $40,000 for added services such as extra police patrols ought to cover it.

coloradoan 5 years ago

OK, so a city-sanctioned drunkfest on city property... Can anybody at City Hall spell l-i-a-b-i-l-i-t-y? Just wonderin'.

Keith 5 years ago

There was a whole lot of street partying going on in that area about 40 years ago, and all that happened was somebody got shot by the police. Will history repeat itself?

kantubek 5 years ago

Good news for those of you that didn't attend tonight's meeting, the City Council voted to defer the motion until a more descriptive plan could be presented by The Oread. The restrictions discussed tonight should help ease some intrusion by the event, such as allowing traffic, implementing a time limit, and possibly reducing the scope during the initial events.

Rickyonealku 5 years ago

Just who is going to pay for the clean up after each home game party???? Nice try but why is the Oread if passed getting a free bill of party favors when the Wheel and others haven't been able to do the same on game day???? Just asking.

Kontum1972 5 years ago

bad juju..folks..lets see...the oread's streak so far....one dead from a fall.....lets see the booze bus...one drunken dead from massive head injuries....hmmm....sure why not.....i want to see who is next....what does the chief of police for the city think about this....i am sure the funding for the police dept is probably cut too....as far as officers on the street....

ok go ahead with this...i need a good laff.....

i want to be able to say hmmm ....i told u so..... obtw...what happened to MADD.....? mb u should approach them first....

Clark Coan 4 years, 12 months ago

When is the LPD going to release the results of their investigation of the death of the man you fell to his death? I mean it's been how many weeks now?

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