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Man with sword subdued with Taser

Lawrence police tazered a man who was wielding a sword Thursday. The man was then transported to Lawrence Memorial Hospital for a mental health evaluation.

January 22, 2010

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A 50-year-old man was tased Thursday afternoon after wielding a sword in a confrontation with police officers.

According to Lawrence Police Sgt. Damon Thomas, officers responded to the 2500 block of Redbud Lane about 4:15 p.m. after a woman reported her son was acting suicidal. When officers arrived they saw the man holding “a large sword in a martial arts pose.”

Police immediately removed the man’s mother from the home and spoke to the man at the door of the residence. The man refused to drop the sword, and officers used a Taser to subdue him.

“It was a good example of the Taser doing exactly what it was supposed to do,” Thomas said.

The man was taken to Lawrence Memorial Hospital for a mental health evaluation. As of Thursday night, he had not been arrested or charged with any crime.

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Matthew Herbert 4 years, 11 months ago

Redbud Lane....always good for a news story.

homechanger 4 years, 11 months ago

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middlemgmt 4 years, 11 months ago

I agree that this was a good reason to use a Taser. Sounds like it had the best outcome possible.

preebo 4 years, 11 months ago

Moral of the story...

Don't bring a sword to a taser fight.

Charles L Bloss Jr 4 years, 11 months ago

Don't bring a knife to a gunfight, either. Thank you, Lynn

homechanger 4 years, 11 months ago

I didn't know cosumer was in Greg seveir bedroom that night. He " charged" officer Ted was the official story yes.

Stuart Evans 4 years, 11 months ago

why was this the best possible outcome? for the mother; probably. For the police, definitely. For the son, not so much.

Stuart Evans 4 years, 11 months ago

75x55 (Anonymous) says… smitty countdown….one….two…three….


doesn't a countdown go the other way...?

tanaumaga 4 years, 11 months ago

highlander sighting in lawrence, ks....be careful,he's immortal.

gphawk89 4 years, 11 months ago

"why was this the best possible outcome?"

no one hurt... possibly suicidal man getting help... what outcome could have been better?

easyliving 4 years, 11 months ago

Is there a ninja school on that side of town?

puddleglum 4 years, 11 months ago

can we get a name?

LJ world?

guess it wasn't a KU basketball player-then we would know who it was immediately!

Frederic Gutknecht IV 4 years, 11 months ago

It's likely that he was simply looking for a critique of his "martial arts pose". I guess he got it!~)

grammaddy 4 years, 11 months ago

Too bad they didn't have tasers the night they shot Greg Sevier.

skinny 4 years, 11 months ago

The LJWorld doesn't print the names of those arrested for sex crimes.

Oh wait, this wasn't a sex crime, so what was the guys name LJWorld??

Guess it didn't benefit the LJWorld so they have decided not to print it.

Typical of the LJWorld, very selective in what they print and when they print it.

I have never seen anything like it, WOW.

homechanger 4 years, 11 months ago

Grammaddy i mentioned that also in an earlier post. It was removed. wonder why?

purplesage 4 years, 11 months ago

A better response and outcome than when KCMO police shot a sword wielding man 5 times in the back a couple of years ago.

bigdave 4 years, 11 months ago

garyr (Anonymous) says… Crouching Tiger, Hidden Taser


Now that was funny!! :)

d_prowess 4 years, 11 months ago

Can we all stop for one minute and pay homage to the often ignored men and women of the LJW that create the headlines? I know this headline isn't necessarily witty or creative, but when i pulled up the LJWorld site and saw this headline listed, you better believe it was the first one I clicked on. I mean, it really is just priceless. So kudos to all you headline writers!

ksjayhawk74 4 years, 11 months ago

He was expecting Beatrix Kiddo.

Many years ago he worked for this guy named Bill who was a really bad man. Now this girl Beatrix thinks he owes her some sort of debt.

bad_dog 4 years, 11 months ago

skinny: he apparently wasn't arrested.

bromidrosis: given no charges or arrest, no need for Miranda warnings...

From the article above:

"As of Thursday night, he had not been arrested or charged with any crime."

gr 4 years, 11 months ago

Maybe proper use of a taser, but is it proper use of police force?

So some guy is accused of being suicidal. Officers arrive and ask him to drop a sword. Suppose he says, there's nothing illegal with holding a sword in one's own home. I'm not suicidal. I have every right to continue holding it.

Why does anyone think it's proper to rip someone out of their home just at the accusation of not threatening anyone else, but rumored of only hurting oneself? Maybe the article left something out.

Moral of the story? Know someone who doesn't like invasion of police? Call in that they're suicidal and if they object to the police, they get shocked. How fun is that?

MyName 4 years, 11 months ago

lol @ labmonkey:

I think the correct quote is: "don't tase me, Sir bro"

MyName 4 years, 11 months ago

@gr:

cool story bro. The solution to your "legal quandary" is pretty simple though: if you're not crazy, then just put the sword down when the police come knocking at your door.

Leslie Swearingen 4 years, 11 months ago

When I was in the DBT class at Bert Nash we were told that under such circumstances the first thing to do is to call the police. If the police are threatened with a weapon they have a right to protect themselves. Too often friends and family are enablers of the offender and after the event is over will then attack the police. It just makes the person think they have a right to behave like this. This was a serious situation and should be treated like one. I don't care if the man just thought he wasn't getting enough attention so that he why he did this. Being crazy is not an acceptable excuse.

acg 4 years, 11 months ago

Some of the comments above had me rolling "don't tase me bro" "crouching tiger, hidden taser" "is there a ninja school on that side of town". I also love any referenced to beatix kiddo. U guys rock, seriously.

gr 4 years, 11 months ago

My, I said, "Know someone who doesn't like invasion of police?" meaning some people just don't like police poking around. If they come to your house and say drop that hammer, wouldn't you be a little bit put off?

jafs 4 years, 11 months ago

If he wasn't threatening anyone else, I don't think police have the right to use force.

As far as I'm concerned, suicide shouldn't be a crime.

gphawk89 4 years, 11 months ago

"“what outcome could have been better? Are you kidding me? A dragon could have shown up or another knight. The possibilities are endless."

OK, if we're being a bit light-hearted here... I'd vote for an epic sword battle between him and Zatoichi. Zatoichi would win in the end - he always does. And the man's wish would come true. Suicide by Samurai.

MyName 4 years, 11 months ago

@gr:

I may be put off, but I still wouldn't answer the door with a sword in my hand unless I was a ninja or conan the barbarian or something. If you're not crazy, and you're not carrying a sword and walking around like you're about to hack yourself or someone else, then more likely than not, they're going to just leave you alone.

Newell_Post 4 years, 11 months ago

In the old days, the headline would have read:

Man With Sword Subdued With Police Shotgun

Jersey_Girl 4 years, 11 months ago

Wow!! Tasers didn't do the Seattle police any good back in '97 when a man with a Samurai sword shut down a portion of downtown Seattle for 11 hours by holding the police at bay. They finally knocked him down with fire hoses and pinned him down with a ladder to take the sword away.

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19970403&slug=2532077

igby 4 years, 11 months ago

.40 cal. in the knee cap really brings them back into reality!

OOOOOOOOOCCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHH........ I'm Dropping it! Dam!

bblbfolks 4 years, 11 months ago

I'm sorry, but I was raised to boey commands by the police. Or in the most basic terms possible...if a man with a gun tells you to put something down, you do it! Whether or not you agree with the law, it is still against the law to commit suicide. The police were doing their job. Can you imagine the stink that would be raised if they had ignored the call, and the man had killed himself or his mother?

Or maybe he was just waiting for Groo to wander by.

bblbfolks 4 years, 11 months ago

That should have read "obey".

My bad. Sorry.

Jersey_Girl 4 years, 11 months ago

If you attempt suicide and fail, even if it is illegal, you won't be sent to jail. You will be hospitalized for psychiatric treatment. The courts probably figure that you'll either plead innocent and claim it was an accident or not guilty by reason of mental illness or defect.

jafs 4 years, 11 months ago

cheeseburger,

The police are probably not the right folks to deal with suicidal people.

Perhaps mental health professionals would be better?

But again, if you're not threatening anyone else, imho, you're not committing a crime.

And, yes, it seems absurd that suicide would be against the law - what's the legal consequence??

skinny 4 years, 11 months ago

edjayhawk,

Based on what facts??

Black helicopters flying low again in Lawrence this morning i guess?

Sounds like Smitty in disguise.

Jeremy 4 years, 11 months ago

It is against the law. . And...cops who don't take appropriate action are subject to criminal and civil action themselves.

59-2953 Chapter 59.--PROBATE CODE Article 29.--CARE AND TREATMENT FOR MENTALLY ILL PERSONS 59-2953. Investigation; emergency detention; authority and duty of law enforcement officers. (a) Any law enforcement officer who has a reasonable belief formed upon investigation that a person is a mentally ill person and because of such person's mental illness is likely to cause harm to self or others if allowed to remain at liberty may take the person into custody without a warrant. The officer shall transport the person to a treatment facility where the person shall be examined by a physician or psychologist on duty at the treatment facility, except that no person shall be transported to a state psychiatric hospital for examination...

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