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Coalition calls for further study before legislators ban K2

January 18, 2010

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Opposition asks for K2 study

Opposition to the proposed ban on chemicals in K2 are asking for a 6-8 month study of the substance and its effects. K2 is said to give users a marijuana-like high. Enlarge video

— A group has called for more research into the effects of a product that is sold as incense but one that some say produces a marijuana-like high when smoked.

Patrick Wilbur, executive director of the Drug Policy Forum of Kansas, wrote in a letter to the House Corrections and Juvenile Justice Committee that legislators should conduct a six- to eight-month study on K2 before considering legislation that would make it illegal.

“Criminalizing the substances in question does not come without a price,” Wilbur said. “It is critical the committee performs their due diligence before this decision is made.”

The committee will hold a hearing today(tuesday) on House Bill 2411, which would add two chemicals in K2 to the list of drugs that are illegal in Kansas. A similar bill already has been approved by a Senate committee.

K2 is popping up in stores across the state, including Lawrence’s Sacred Journey, 1103 Mass., which has reported increased demand for the herbal mixture since legislators announced they would try to ban the substance.

Law enforcement officials have said that K2 produces a high, much like marijuana and could have dangerous side effects.

Wilbur said a survey of K2 users in Kansas and review of scientific findings on the chemicals should be done before the Legislature tries to make the product illegal. If, after the study is done, lawmakers still want to prohibit K2, they could work on the issue during next year’s legislative session, he said.

Wilbur said the mission of the Drug Policy Forum of Kansas is to promote alternatives to the drug war.

Comments

jrlii 4 years, 2 months ago

The whole drug war is a power grab by prohibitionists, and dates to a time when, while prohibition was still in effect, but it's support was obviously declining.

For a quick & easy summary, take a look at: http://www.adrugwarcarol.com/ It is a nice telling of the history of drug prohibition in graphic novel form by Susan W. Wells with art by Scott Bieser.

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JerryStubbs 4 years, 2 months ago

Anything that you want to consume as a new drug should be tested by the FDA. Common drugs like alcohol, caffiene, and even genuine pot have been tried and proven for centuries by millions of people. Good or bad, they are completely natural products and their effects are well known.

There have been some very bad products cooked up by somebody in some chemistry lab in the past that were later found to be extremely dangerous, even deadly.

I did a search on this K2 and I couldn't find any real info on it anywhere on the web.

Even if you consider marijuana a safe drug, it might be better to let somebody test K2 on some lab monkeys or something and see how it works out in the long term.

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edjayhawk 4 years, 3 months ago

What about the dangers of mixing alcohol with energy drinks? That is much more dangerous then some incense herb.

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KsTwister 4 years, 3 months ago

GOOD! It's about time the phrase,"I'm gonna smoke your Asssss",takes on a whole new meaning.

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Satirical 4 years, 3 months ago

K2 is made of people! It's PEOPLE!!!

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hricane23 4 years, 3 months ago

I do love me some Emmett Otter's Jugband Christmas! You've been waiting a loooong time to pull that one out.

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somedude20 4 years, 3 months ago

Now, why on earth would anyone want to learn/study something before they ban it? Just ban anything that you don't like or agree with as it is the American way. Facts have rarely gotten in the way of politicians and I dedicate this song to them:

"River Bottom Nightmare Band" We take what we want We do anything that we wish We got no respect For animal birdy or fish

The grass does not grow On the places where we stop and stand River Bottom Nightmare Band

We know we're a mess But I does not like to be clean We don't brush our teeth 'Cause our toothache can help us stay mean

We don't wish to learn But we hate what we don't understand River Bottom

When you see us comin' You better startin' runnin' We're always startin' trouble And we're happiest when things are outta hand

Rivers are for boilin' Parties are for spoilin' We either like to sit and pout Or else go out and terrorize our land River Bottom Nightmare Band

We laugh in your face Or we practice our growl and our sneer We break up your place We are dangerous when we are near

And when we are done with our song Who will get the biggest hand? Who? River Bottom Nightmare Band! River Bottom Nightmare Band!

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Marion Lynn 4 years, 3 months ago

"leedavid (Anonymous) says…

I also would like the legislature do a six to eight month examination of the evidence….What's the down side? They get high and write Kansas law for eight months. I can see a lot of good coming out of that. Certainly smarter decisions. LOL!"

Marion writes:

Close but the decision will actaully be made by a small group of Christian fundamentalists sitting around a backroom table, smoking and having a Kentucky Bourbon or two.

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Golf4Life 4 years, 3 months ago

man, if god hated pot, why would it grow naturally. There is nothing the government can do to stop it. so why waste our money on trying to?

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lcchain 4 years, 3 months ago

LJWORLD IS A BIASED PIECE OF CRAP LIKE ALL OTHER MEDIA BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE ARE CONDITIONED BY THIS WORLD TO BELIEVE THINGS NOT FOUND INSIDE THAT GOD TELLS THEM ARE ACTUALLY TRUE. THEY JUST TURN ON THE TV INSTEAD.

Deleting this comment will prove it's point.

LOL PWNED

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lcchain 4 years, 3 months ago

OH a dangerous effect like marijuana eh?!?!?

LUCK FOR RULERS MEN DON'T THINK!

MY GOD WE HAVE SO MANY DEATHS FROM ALCOHOL BUT I CAN'T THINK OF A TIME ANY ONE HAS EVER GOT HURT FROM MARIJUANA!

COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY ASSOCIATES WITH POT USERS I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW FREE FROM THIS depressing MACHINE ON EARTH AND ARE NO WHERE NEAR DANGER.

We should probably not make illegal things that spread peace considering human kind has been in slavery as far back as history dates. If you disagree you're a victim of material conditioning.

latersssssss

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leedavid 4 years, 3 months ago

I also would like the legislature do a six to eight month examination of the evidence....What's the down side? They get high and write Kansas law for eight months. I can see a lot of good coming out of that. Certainly smarter decisions. LOL!

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Monica Miller 4 years, 3 months ago

And actually, Sacred Journey has stopped carrying k2. . .

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macon47 4 years, 3 months ago

the jerk is running for re election he doesnt care about the kids he wants free advertiziing

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gsxr600 4 years, 3 months ago

Thank you. This whole issue has so many similar parallels to the anti-marijuana campaign. Scare tactics with no solid scientific information.

It's sold as an incense. Do people use it like that? I don't know. Do people use paint to paint stuff? Sure. Do they use it to get high as hell and die? Absolutely. The question is at what point should the government step into our lives to keep us "safe" from our own irresponsibility? I say eff off and let people make or destroy their lives at their decisions.

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local_support 4 years, 3 months ago

Great idea. Thank god someone has a little sense regarding this!

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macon47 4 years, 3 months ago

didnt all the dopers vote for obama anyway? he promised everything to be free and easy

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Alexander Neighbors 4 years, 3 months ago

let me guess it was banned because it made white women have sex with black men.................

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Truami 4 years, 3 months ago

The only reason I picked up the piece of paper (at sacred journey) was to see the names of the individuals who were behind the bills. Luckily I will be in Topeka tomorrow for class at Washburn so I can go to the court house.

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sinedie 4 years, 3 months ago

It's an election year - this isn't the time for making sense.

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