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Archive for Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Statehouse Live: Concealed carry change proposed; Liquor tax increase to go before House committee

February 23, 2010, 9:09 a.m. Updated February 23, 2010, 1:24 p.m.

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— A state or municipal employee who has a license to carry a concealed gun would be allowed to take the weapon to work unless the work place has “adequate security” to ensure there are no weapons, under a bill that will be considered by a House committee.

The House Federal and State Affairs Committee will have a hearing on House Bill 2685 on Thursday.

State Rep. Forrest Knox, R-Altoona, said Tuesday that placing a sign prohibiting concealed weapons in an unsecured facility can actually be dangerous.

“Placing a sign is sometimes perceived to provide some level of security. But it does the opposite. It becomes an invitation for criminals to a ‘gun free zone,’ ” Knox said in a news release.

Under his bill, if a sign is posted prohibiting the carrying of a concealed weapon, then adequate security measures must be in place. This includes electronic equipment and personnel to detect weapons.

The bill would apply to any government-owned, state or local building that posts a sign prohibiting the licensed carry of a concealed weapon, Knox said.

9:15 a.m.

A proposal to increase taxes on alcoholic beverages and dedicate the revenue to community mental health centers and services for those with disabilities will be considered this week.

The House Taxation Committee will hold a hearing on Friday on House Bill 2593, which would double wholesale taxes on various alcoholic beverages.

Supporters of the measure say it will raise $22 million. Under the bill, the extra revenue would go to services that have been slashed during the current budget crisis.

The proposal has been pushed by two Republican House members from Johnson County -- Kay Wolf of Prairie Village and Pat Colloton of Leawood.

The alcoholic beverage industry opposes the plan, saying it would send customers to Missouri to buy alcohol.

Comments

kusp8 4 years, 5 months ago

I'd like to see how what percentage of liquor sales are done in the college towns in Kansas versus the KC market, and other border towns, before I'd buy into the idea that people will start to buy their liquor in Misery.

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Lindsey Buscher 4 years, 5 months ago

kusp8 - that is a very good idea. i'd also like to know specifically where that $22mill is going - just to cover general budget shortfalls or is it earmarked for some particular program(s) that has been cut.

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K_Verses_The_World 4 years, 5 months ago

My daddy he made whiskey, my granddaddy he did too We ain't paid no whiskey tax since 1792

Bob Dylan - Copper Kettle

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classclown 4 years, 5 months ago

$2.00 per drink tax at the bars/clubs? Sounds reasonable. $3.00 for anything imported. Buy American.

Hey people want to tax everything else, so why not?

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skinny 4 years, 5 months ago

Enough is enough.

The government needs to make do with what they have like the rest of us. Every time I turn around they want to tax this or tax that. When something new comes out they say hey, let’s tax that too.

How about let’s start cutting the taxes as we are in a recession!

Start cutting some of these silly a$* programs we don’t need.

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Boosh 4 years, 5 months ago

@ skinny

Yeah, I agree, let's start with the FAA as we knows the airlines can regulate themselves.

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billbodiggens 4 years, 5 months ago

What silly a$ programs are you wanting to cut? If you have some idea you apparently are miles ahead of the legislature which will do the same as they did last year and declare the problem solved and walk off into the sunset and re-election without doing anything. Nice work if you can get it. But, in the mean time, in the interest of full disclosure, what silly a$ programs do you suppose we should cut to balance the budget?

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wysiwyg69 4 years, 5 months ago

thy could put a tax on on the crap we import from China, but only two problems with that. One, we could not survive without China because all of our mfg. shut down and moved to China. Two, China owns the USA and if we taxed their exports, they would call us on all of our debt and we would be SOL. Thank you Crap-Mart

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middlemgmt 4 years, 5 months ago

Liquor taxes are already too high!

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Jayhawk_Blue 4 years, 5 months ago

The proposed liquor tax increase is designed to go towards services for those with developmental disabilities and those with significant mental illnesses, two of the state's most vulnerable populations. A good cause, no?

And the tax is a gallonage tax. It's doubtful the average consumer will even notice it.

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RoeDapple 4 years, 5 months ago

"State Rep. Forrest Knox, R-Altoona, said Tuesday that placing a sign prohibiting concealed weapons in an unsecured facility can actually be dangerous.

“Placing a sign is sometimes perceived to provide some level of security. But it does the opposite. It becomes an invitation for criminals to a ‘gun free zone,’ ” Knox said in a news release.

Under his bill, if a sign is posted prohibiting the carrying of a concealed weapon, then adequate security measures must be in place. This includes electronic equipment and personnel to detect weapons."

Oh, I just love a double standard....

What about bank employees, liquor store employees, bar employees, and on , and on....

Are state employees lives more worthy of protection than others? Or more trusted than non state employed to "pack" without concern they will "lose it" and start shooting coworkers? And what, pray tell, is “adequate security” ? Security against someone with a gun, or a rocket launcher, or someone wrapped in 80 lbs of explosives?

Actually I like this proposal, as it opens the door to others who carry to propose an "us too" law. Makes me feel like my coworker could be there to save me from... . . . my other coworker...

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denak 4 years, 5 months ago

Why people with developemental disabilities??? Yes, they are a vulnerable population and I'm not saying they shouldn't get more funding but I would think if there is a tax increase on alcoholic beverage the tax should pay for services directly linked to alcohol ie mental health and alcohol rehab, MADD or some sort of drunk driver's victim compensation.

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beatrice 4 years, 5 months ago

And if you work in an IRS building, the only real security must be an anti-aircraft weapon. Difficulty will be in trying to conceal it.

Tax the churches.

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Thinking_Out_Loud 4 years, 5 months ago

Right, denak, just like a tax on income should pay for services directly linked to working and taxes on food should pay for services directly related to eating and taxes on education should pay for services directly related to learning....

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mr_right_wing 4 years, 5 months ago

Guns kill people! Just like pencils cause spelling errors!

Take away guns = less people die Take away pencils = kids don't misspell words.

Simple. MRW has spoken.

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vega 4 years, 5 months ago

"Under his bill, if a sign is posted prohibiting the carrying of a concealed weapon, then adequate security measures must be in place. This includes electronic equipment and personnel to detect weapons. The bill would apply to any government-owned, state or local building that posts a sign prohibiting the licensed carry of a concealed weapon, Knox said."

So KU either installs electronic equipment in every single building on the campus and search every single student/prof before every single class, or allows guns in the classrooms. How cool is that!

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