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Lawrence’s Sacred Journey closed, under investigation by federal officials

Store has been the center of K2 sales in the area

Officials from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Johnson County Sheriff's Office and Lawrence Police Department, conducted a search and seizure in February 2010 inside Lawrence's Sacred Journey — a store at the center of the K2 controversy in Kansas.

Officials from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Johnson County Sheriff's Office and Lawrence Police Department, conducted a search and seizure in February 2010 inside Lawrence's Sacred Journey — a store at the center of the K2 controversy in Kansas.

February 4, 2010, 11:37 a.m. Updated February 4, 2010, 4:49 p.m.

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Local store under federal investigation

Sacred Journey closed its doors Thursday as federal government officials investigated the shop. The local business was known to sell the now-banned substance K2. Enlarge video

Lawrence's Sacred Journey, 1103 Mass., was closed Thursday while officials from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Johnson County Sheriff's Office and Lawrence Police Department, conducted a search inside the business.

Lawrence's Sacred Journey, 1103 Mass., was closed Thursday while officials from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Johnson County Sheriff's Office and Lawrence Police Department, conducted a search inside the business.

Employee Gabriel Mittel looks in the front door of Sacred Journey, 1103 Mass., Thursday morning, while officials from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Johnson County Sheriff's Office and Lawrence Police Department, execute a search warrant inside the building. The store has been at the center of the K2 controversy in Kansas and sells numerous herbs and supplements.

Employee Gabriel Mittel looks in the front door of Sacred Journey, 1103 Mass., Thursday morning, while officials from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Johnson County Sheriff's Office and Lawrence Police Department, execute a search warrant inside the building. The store has been at the center of the K2 controversy in Kansas and sells numerous herbs and supplements.

Lawrence's Sacred Journey — a store at the center of the K2 controversy in Kansas — was shut down on Thursday, while a federal raid was conducted inside the business.

Officials from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Johnson County Sheriff's Office and Lawrence Police Department were seen Thursday morning packing up boxes of files and other items from inside the store, 1103 Mass.

Authorities on scene said the FDA was in charge of the investigation, but an agency spokesperson wouldn’t say why agents were there.

"The FDA does not comment publicly on criminal investigations," said Tom Gasparoli, FDA spokesman.

Lydia Shontz, who identified herself as an employee of the store, said when she arrived at work Thursday morning she was escorted away by police. She said officers told her they had obtained a federal search warrant and then interviewed her about the marijuana-like substance K2 and other items the store sells, including cactus plants.

“It sucks big-time, I knew that this would happen,” Shontz said of the search. “I honestly didn’t expect it to be this powerful.”

Customer after customer, many coming to Sacred Journey to purchase the controversial K2, was turned away by a police guard at the door.

“It sounds pretty ridiculous,” Tim Ford, who came from Olathe to buy K2, said of the raid.

Kansas House legislators this week passed a bill that would make illegal the sale or possession of K2, but that legislation has yet to become law. The bill is likely to hit Gov. Mark Parkinson’s desk this session.

Parkinson said he favors the proposal.

"I think it's great that they're moving on it," he said.

The House and Senate have passed versions of the bill by wide margins. Once differences are reconciled between the measures, the ban will go back to the House and Senate for final approval.

Law enforcement has said the herbal mixture, which is marketed and sold as incense, is being smoked by young people to get high.

Reporters Shaun Hittle, Scott Rothschild and photojournalist Steve Jones contributed to this report.

Comments

ClaroAtaxia 4 years, 7 months ago

This whole K2 thing is silly. If we're going to outlaw an incense just b/c ppl don't use it as incense, then why not make Duster, glue, paint, decorative poppy's, whip-its, and everything else ppl misuse illegal? Perhaps our state government should stop worrying about what ppl could potentially use to get "high" and try to fix unemployment, something the citizens actually care about.

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c6h10o5n 4 years, 1 month ago

Just think of the economic growth created by this fiasco. Wasted tax dollars spent on "legal" hoodlums destroying products to make America illusive.

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Richard Payton 4 years, 7 months ago

I really prefer KY because K2 stinks. Have they sent Yellow House packing also?

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mr_right_wing 4 years, 7 months ago

Because Obama's style of government knows what's best for you, they will control your health care, they will control (and dictate) what is and isn't good for you. What you can, and cannot do. Before too long they'll probably tell us when to get up in the morning, and when our bedtime is, along with how many bathroom breaks we're allowed each day. Sounds more like Orwell's 1984 doesn't it (he was just 26 years off!)

They don't call Him The Obamassiah for nuttin'! On your knees and give thanks! Hail Big Brother Barry! Our Savior! (He saves us from ourselves, 'cause we're sooo stupid and incapable!)

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c6h10o5n 4 years, 1 month ago

Let’s try to clip your wing. Both tweedle dee and dum parties want to divide and conquer liberal moderates. Explosive booze is acceptable, calming K2 (that is just as legal for example), is criminalized. Obama is just another patsy like Lee Oswald, stuck out there as a target. Society is now so screwed up with peer pressure climbers, that American's prefer poisonous medications that are 1000% profit, to medication that can be picked in the woods - that have a 6000 year reputation of human acceptability. The international Plutocracy is now dancing with glee operating their "marianettes" while watching the "wheel of economic growth" spin!

An American Indian point of view.

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ksjayhawk74 4 years, 7 months ago

Don't worry kids, you can still buy cigarettes, which are obviously much better for you and safer, because it's legal.

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Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 7 months ago

Cigarettes and alcohol are legal and even socially acceptable...but they've been proven to kill people.

Something to remember when the government tells us they're "looking out for our safety".

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aeroscout17 4 years, 7 months ago

Excuse me mr_right_wing? I thought this was a result of the conservative Kansas legislature, not the liberal Obama presidency. Did I miss something?

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Michelle Hayes 4 years, 7 months ago

or perhaps we could take the money the government will spend today and put it into the education budget.

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puddleglum 4 years, 7 months ago

cigarettes don't kill people, people kill people.

I thought we had that all settled by now.

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hooligan01 4 years, 7 months ago

How does the Johnson County sheriffs department factor into this?

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Liberty275 4 years, 7 months ago

"Excuse me mr_right_wing? I thought this was a result of the conservative Kansas legislature, not the liberal Obama presidency. Did I miss something?"

The FDA is a federal agency under control of the president. They are conducting the investigation on the potpourri affair.

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 4 years, 7 months ago

"then why not make Duster, glue, paint, decorative poppy's, whip-its, and everything else ppl misuse illegal?"

Probably because 99% of all paint, glue, etc. is purchased by people who will use it for painting, gluing, etc. My guess is that 99% of all K2 is sold to people trying to get high. When (if) people start harvesting seeds off the top of poppy seed bagels for use in home labs, they too will become regulated.

Come on people! It's named after a very HIGH mountain. That ain't "incense"!

Folks, it's pretty obvious that the feds at least "think" that Sacred Journey is selling more than just K2. If I were to speculate (the main purpose for these forums being speculation), I bet that someone analyzed K2 and found something hidden in the mix.

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Danimal 4 years, 7 months ago

There has to be more to this story. K2 isn't even illegal on the books yet so there has to be something going on. Good of the US Attorney's office to do a little stonewalling. What was all this rhetoric about transparency in government about? I'm sure we'll find out what's really going on soon enough.

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aeroscout17 4 years, 7 months ago

"The FDA is a federal agency under control of the president. They are conducting the investigation on the potpourri affair."

Oh, wait. Now I remember. The FDA started this whole mess and ordered the Kansas legislature to get involved and ban K2. No, the legislature started the whole issue.

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aeroscout17 4 years, 7 months ago

On a serious note, there must be something else up since K2 is available by mail order, not just at this shop.

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Jeremy DeBoard 4 years, 7 months ago

Ricky_Vaughn (Anonymous) says…

Cigarettes and alcohol are legal and even socially acceptable…but they've been proven to kill people.

Something to remember when the government tells us they're “looking out for our safety”.

I wouldn't say either of these are socially acceptable anymore. You can't drink alcohol in public. You can't smoke in a work place. It's getting to the point where you can't even smoke while taking a stroll. As to Sacred Journey, I hope they have cleared out all the K2 once the bill was under vote, just to minimize any chances of getting fined or imprisoned for having it if and when the bill was passed.

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Richard Payton 4 years, 7 months ago

Sacred Journey is a compassionate care center just ask Gail Finney.

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Mel Briscoe 4 years, 7 months ago

no wonder the people who work there act so paranoid when you ask them about the different products they sell.

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Monica Miller 4 years, 7 months ago

Dang it! I knew I should have went last night!

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Ricky_Vaughn 4 years, 7 months ago

OldEnuf2BYurDad (Anonymous) says…

Folks, it's pretty obvious that the feds at least “think” that Sacred Journey is selling more than just K2. If I were to speculate (the main purpose for these forums being speculation), I bet that someone analyzed K2 and found something hidden in the mix.

"Hidden in the mix?" It doesn't show up on any drug tests, genius. I don't think you could be further off-base if you tried.

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Alexander Neighbors 4 years, 7 months ago

my I remind the General public Of this.....

Sgt. Dan Ward (2005) was also involved in the yellow house investigation and the federal charges were dismissed in that case.(2006)

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FormerCentralKansan 4 years, 7 months ago

Fear not citizens of Lawrence, KS and surrounding communities...true capitalism always finds a way...K2 is in plentiful supply on EBAY. Just search "K2 incense" on EBAY and all your wildest dreams will come true.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 7 months ago

Bring out your dead (horses)! Bring out your dead (horses)!

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Alexander Neighbors 4 years, 7 months ago

"This is an operation of theirs (the FDA), and we're just assisting," said Lawrence Police Capt. Dan Ward.


I never knew FEDERAL agencies would get involved with Local State passed Agendas.....there is something wrong with this...

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KUinAussie 4 years, 7 months ago

okay, why, if this substance is 'still legal' are they shutting down a store under the guise of 'inspections'?

ahh thats right, because if all they find is K2, they have nothing, but if they find in the owners back office a joint or something 'illegal' then they can swipe the K2 issue under the rug...

and dont forget... the first state to make illegal, the plant salvia...

illonois- thank you obama.... NOT!!

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Monica Miller 4 years, 7 months ago

Well, I have been almost a daily shopper at Sacred Journey and, obviously, I don't know the facts, but I am going to speculate that this doesn't necessarily have to do with K2. There is a gas station here in town that sells it that isn't under investigation or shut down. . ..I mean, if it were a K2 based investigation, you'd think any place that sells it would be a part of the investigation.

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Victor Dawson 4 years, 7 months ago

It is Obama's fault and I want him to drop everything and deal with this immediately. Jump on Air Force One, on his own dime, and fix this immediately!!! I need my order from Sacred Journey because my house smells. I am completely outraged.

Who cares!!! There must be a serious reason that Federal officials are in town and I don't think it is just a K2 matter. The K2 matter I am sure didn't help.

Let's face it Feds don't just shut a place down without quality intel.

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Richard Heckler 4 years, 7 months ago

If it is NOT against the law why are legal authorities investigating the business?

Our Kansas republican Legislature is far more dangerous than any smoke. They are against education. They are against the green collar industry yet we need jobs.

People talking on cell phones and texting while driving kill people. What is taking so long to make that against the law?

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Christine Anderson 4 years, 7 months ago

I do think the public has a right to know what the Hades is going on here.

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Monica Miller 4 years, 7 months ago

"Customers, many coming to Sacred Journey to purchase the controversial marijuana-like herbal mixture K2, were being turned away by a guard at the door."

LOL Really? What customer is going to see the mass of squad cars and people surrounding the building and still try to go to the store to get their smoke? LOL Too funny!

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puddleglum 4 years, 7 months ago

mr. right_thinker.......is god!

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postfactumproductions 4 years, 7 months ago

i still don't get why the Johnson county sheriff's dept was there.

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hooligan01 4 years, 7 months ago

Well if it was drug related, wouldn't it be the DEA shutting them down instead of FDA?

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alm77 4 years, 7 months ago

hooli, Isn't one the Food and Drug Administration and the other Drug Enforcement Agency? I don't know. Good question!

I'm going to put 2 and 2 together here: I do know that they had tons of herbs for sale there, not just K2. It's my understanding that several technically legal mind altering substances exist. Since they had K2, I'm going to guess that they had these other such herbs.

What I don't know is what conclusion to draw.

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localgirl9 4 years, 7 months ago

Where to begin? How about this, it does not matter at all if K2 was being sold as incense or being sold as a mood altering substance. Until K2 is criminalized it is perfectly legal to do whatever you like with it...burn it as incense, put in your pipe and smoke it, put it up your butt as a laxative for all I care. I am tired of people getting all wound up because an herbal mixture might make you HIGH. Big effing deal. People use alcohol all day every day for the express purpose of getting drunk, which equals high, altered, inebriated, etc. Get over it already. Sugar gives you a buzz, caffeine is a stimulant, we all look for mood alteration sometimes.

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Cait McKnelly 4 years, 7 months ago

“Customers, many coming to Sacred Journey to purchase the controversial marijuana-like herbal mixture K2, were being turned away by a guard at the door.”

I would like to know how the reporter knew for what people were shopping when turned away. Were they taking a poll? And what constitutes "many"? Two or three? A dozen? A hundred? They make it sound like throngs were being turned away. This reporter has a great job ahead of them at the National Enquirer.

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frank mcguinness 4 years, 7 months ago

"Well if it was drug related, wouldn't it be the DEA shutting them down instead of FDA?"

I think its because the DEA deals with substances that are already classified as illegal and the FDA regulates substances that are not illegal.

This is kinda like a few years ago when you could walk into GNC and by andro which at the time was a grey area product as it was legal but acted similar to steroids. that was all FDA stuff. Now that it is illegal if you are caught selling andro the DEA will get you.

At the end of that story the gov't concluded that mimetics or something that mimics an illegal substance can be classified as an illegal substance even without proof. The reason they banned mimetics is that there were 10 billion ways to mimic steroids and they felt it would be a never ending ordeal to keep banning newly created substances and it would be easier to just say if it act like something illegal it's now illegal.

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fosso 4 years, 7 months ago

K2? Wow. Taxpayers money wasted...

Don't worry. Codex Alimentarius will be soon serving the interest of global agribusiness and drug companies. FDA is the least of my worries. WHO and WTO countries eating fructose from genetically modified corn all day, getting diabetes, going to their doctor for prescriptions... Vitamins? and foods classified and regulated... ugh. The future looks bleak. Eat this, take that. Don't ask, and just consume what makes company X money.

Guess the K2 manufacturer's profits were not enough for lobbyists...

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errita 4 years, 7 months ago

Really? Please use my tax money to get rid of meth labs instead of this GIANT waste of time.

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frank mcguinness 4 years, 7 months ago

The article stated something about cactus and if you are living on planet earth you know there are a few cactus that act like psychoactive substance. Maybe thats the issue?

Or

Maybe they'll walk away without charges and this whole thing will be quietly swept under the rug as the "authorities" can't possibly ever admit they were wrong(see yellow house).

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localgirl9 4 years, 7 months ago

"At the end of that story the gov't concluded that mimetics or something that mimics an illegal substance can be classified as an illegal substance even without proof. The reason they banned mimetics is that there were 10 billion ways to mimic steroids and they felt it would be a never ending ordeal to keep banning newly created substances and it would be easier to just say if it act like something illegal it's now illegal."

Soooo, how does alcohol remain legal??? Because I am sure there are plenty of illegal substances that share affects with alcohol. Is it about how the item is marketed? As in, "use K2, it makes you feel the same way smoking pot does" ? Makes it illegal by default? Because I have tried several "herbal blends" that claim to mimic the high of Miss Mary Jane, but not a one did the trick. I think that the sheer number of people who still partake in marijuana shows that none of the substitutes do it for them either. Either way, I do not know enough to say whether the FDA will have enough evidence to support a case, but I disagree with all of the recent legislature banning various plants. I was against the criminalization of salvia, I am against banning K2 or mullein, or damiana, or datura, o coleus, or straw flowers...these all have psychoactive properties.

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oxandale 4 years, 7 months ago

Dont worry... Obama will save K2

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Mariposa 4 years, 7 months ago

rooster, when I read cactus my first thought was peyote. Do they have datura plants?

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frank mcguinness 4 years, 7 months ago

Localgirl, Life in general is a hypocrisy so alcohol is certainly included.

Why is it not banned? It's entrenched into our society.

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Frightwig 4 years, 7 months ago

That Gabriel Mittel is pretty bold. The photo shows him peering through the window at the Feds while toking a doobie. In the other hand he appears to be holding a bong.

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frank mcguinness 4 years, 7 months ago

You mean the almost smoked to the butt cigarette and the coffee cup????

Time to get the old eyes checked frightwig.

Possibly time to get the paranoia checked too.

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earline james 4 years, 7 months ago

This strikes me as abusive and punitive and wrong. It reminds me of that guy dressed as Santa that handcuffed himself to his store and they drug him off to jail and bulldozed his store while he was trying to post bail. Or that guy and his "adult" toys that they ran in to the ground, or that Joe College and his tshirts. Who are these people and why do they hate us so? Have the stormtoopers completed their search of Scared Journey? Are they reopened for business? Yes, I will pass a bunch of cops and squad cars and walk in a store and make a legal purchase. I'm no Rosa Parks, but this frosts my cake.
(Please don't be offended by my firey language.)

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Monica Miller 4 years, 7 months ago

And when/if they reopen, think they'll still sell K2? Dang, this darn job keeping me from going down there and answering my own questions. . . (sarcasm intended)

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sad_lawrencian 4 years, 7 months ago

Kudos to the Lawrence police, the FDA, the Kansas legislature and law enforcement personnel for taking action. It's time someone cleaned up this town. Too many marijuana and illegal drug users here. They need to find the marijuana dealers and get them out of town.

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Frightwig 4 years, 7 months ago

Rooster, you're right. I stand corrected. I'm calling Dr. Lenahan to make an eye appointment now.

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bearded_gnome 4 years, 7 months ago

Possibly FDA is involved because SJ was violating laws against practicing medicine without a license, making health/medical treatment claims for some substances which they shouldn't have made.


Cait48 et al, I do believe there could have been "throngs" of heads coming up and asking about K2 with the guard/officers. since Sacred Journey started selling it, I've literally gotten hundreds of wrong number calls from heads who misdial to my number asking for k2...on "rare" occasions the heads argue with us that we must have the k2!


merrill (Anonymous) says…

If it is NOT against the law why are legal authorities investigating the business?

Our Kansas republican Legislature is far more dangerous than any smoke. They are against education. They are against the green collar industry yet we need jobs.

yes, Mr. Obama does control the FDA.

and the sense of Merrilll's post and others: as long as we have high unemployment, we shouldn't enforce laws on the books...okay, glad that's cleared up.
as long as people are out of work, we shouldn't enforce DUI's either.

in the news couple days ago an airline passenger went crazy, tried to open outside door in flight, screamed, he'd had a "double dose" of "medical maryjane...but marijuana doesn't harm people.

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Monica Miller 4 years, 7 months ago

Right, gnome, and we all know that what ranting beligerent criminals are always true!!

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Monica Miller 4 years, 7 months ago

*CORRECTION** before the grammar police get me. ..

Right, gnome, and we all know that what ranting beligerent criminals say is always true!!

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Matt Needham 4 years, 7 months ago

According to the Kansas Dept. of Health and Environment over 4000 Kansans died from cigarettes in 2007. I couldn't find their stats for K2. Working on banning K2 and un-banning cigarettes is keeping the Kansas govt. very busy avoiding real problems.

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gatekeeper 4 years, 7 months ago

sad_lawrencian (Anonymous) says…

Kudos to the Lawrence police, the FDA, the Kansas legislature and law enforcement personnel for taking action. It's time someone cleaned up this town. Too many marijuana and illegal drug users here. They need to find the marijuana dealers and get them out of town. //////

If you want everyone using a little weed out of this town, the majority of this town is gone. Have fun sadlawrencian. A lot of school teachers (I know many), business owners, people you would consider to be good citizens are smokers. And why exactly are you living in a college town if people using pot in the privacy of their own home offends you so much? A college town is not the place for you. Me thinks you should move to a small town. Oh wait, the smaller towns are filled with meth. Guess there's no where for you to go.

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greenworld 4 years, 7 months ago

I wonder what Marion would think about right now about all this???

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sunny 4 years, 7 months ago

I don't know who would be dumb enough to smoke 'incense', in any case...i am sick of the government telling me what is good and what is bad for me!

Doritos should be banned....

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thatkidfromschool 4 years, 7 months ago

Last time I checked, and I've been reading up on these articles, K2 isn't illegal yet. Unless they think Sacred Journey is selling weed, they have no reason to be there, and shouldn't be. If they don't have probable cause, a "likely to pass" BILL isn't an excuse.

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grammaddy 4 years, 7 months ago

Why is Johnson County involved? Where is the Douglas C. Sheriff's department? This whole business is a scam. Just trying to get people riled up to pass the K2 ban that has been proposed but not made official law yet.

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greenworld 4 years, 7 months ago

So how did they execute a search warrant without probable cause?? LJW can you look into this, I think we might have a lawsuit that could be in the making. If they havent done anything illegal, this is a pretty unfair publicity stunt that goes against ones ability to create free enterprise. What a joke....The American dream..as the government robs and rapes one's ability to create. I wanna say this isnt the journal world dropping the ball once again on all the facts. Surely that would never happen. JW - can you obtain a copy of the search warrant so we can see what is says??

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BigPrune 4 years, 7 months ago

Were there claims that K2 made chemotherapy more tolerable, reduced panic attacks, increased appetite, created paranoia etc, etc? Is this why the Food and Drug Administration stepped in because of claims made without FDA testing?

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Candysmilexo 4 years, 7 months ago

I have a sister that works for the courts and was informed today that beginning the end of March they will have to take every Thursday and Friday off until June. So she will be getting 2 weeks pay a month instead of 4 weeks. Now the flippin courts can not handle the case load they have so making something else illegal is not a good idea. They can't handle the case loads they have! What a stupid idea! And I have to say that the idiots on here spouting off about Obama being behind this probably belong to that crazy ass church in Topeka that believes harrassing Soldiers and their families is a good idea! F off loosers!

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BigPrune 4 years, 7 months ago

At least she still has a job. But the stimulus jobs bill Obama is talking about is supposed to keep the smaller governmental jobs in place - so in essence, their jobs will be saved by the taxpayers who already foot the bill, because the government is incapable of cutting back. In the meantime, private sector job saving is non-existent, even though the private sector employs far more.

Why is 'loser' so difficult to spell for the enlightened more educated liberals in this world?

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Nikki May 4 years, 7 months ago

BigPrune, while I consider myself liberal, but not A liberal, I think I know the answer to the LOOSER, LOSER question. You know how people (usually more liberal, hippy types) want everyone to be a winner and there are no losers? You get a trophy for just signing up, that whole thing. We all win. Well, I think that mindset has moved on to writing too. It's better to call someone LOOSE than to say they aren't a winner.

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james bush 4 years, 7 months ago

Sometimes the news is like a bad dream and I think that we will all wake up and be normal.

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7texdude 4 years, 7 months ago

Wouldn't it be interesting if all these bureaus worked together to slow down the meth trade in Kansas. It'd be great if they spent our tax payers' money on stopping something illegal.

Psst.......so are all those sheriff's guys going to take tomorrow off? We can't have them getting any OT. This kills the budget.

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7texdude 4 years, 7 months ago

sad_lawrencian (Anonymous) says…

Kudos to the Lawrence police, the FDA, the Kansas legislature and law enforcement personnel for taking action. It's time someone cleaned up this town. Too many marijuana and illegal drug users here. They need to find the marijuana dealers and get them out of town.

The last time I looked, no one had ever died because they smoked too much grass at one time. They merely gained 50 pounds munching on cheap burritos at crapster bell. Are the Lawrence cops going to raid frat houses next? That's where underage kids are drinking themselves to death while smoking cigars. Or maybe the dorms could crack down with room searches for freshmen? Oh, that's illegal?

Where is your support behind that? Why aren't you calling your so called "leaders" in Topeka to stop all these dumb kids from drinking and smoking themselves to death? Because they'd have to call back the Kansas Army units from Iraq to fight off the parental outrage of these illegal searches for things are legal.

God, I love this country.

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compmd 4 years, 7 months ago

I swear, I'm getting most of you clowns "jump to conclusions" mats for christmas.

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rastley 4 years, 7 months ago

Thank God! Now the kids can go back to drinking alcohol and getting into drunken fights and shootings at the local clubs and deadly car crashes on K-10. Or maybe just some tasty lung cancer from their nice legal cigarettes. Thank you for protecting us local government! No one shall have a similar feeling to the most harmless drug ever on your watch!

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rastley 4 years, 7 months ago

It's so comforting to know that our tax dollars are paying for all the man hours these agencies spent investigating the sale of incense. They could have at least outlawed patchouli first...that stuff stinks.

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bliddel 4 years, 7 months ago

It's obvious to me that the LJ World has not given us the whole story. If all that was reported is all there is to the story, then this has to be a most obnoxious abuse of the judicial system, and a $50 lawyer should be able to exonerate the store and its employees.

I don't use recreational drugs, and don't smoke incense, and don't drink anything alcoholic. I don't condone people using illegal substances, nor do I condone people driving when their judgment is impaired by anything legal or not. That said, it bothers me greatly that such an overwhelming show of force would be used against people who evidently think that what they were doing is still legal. There is a legal principle at stake here. A change in the law cannot be applied retroactively. To allow that would be tantamount to allowing unrestrained tyranny.

I fear what psychotropic drugs do to reckless people with such low self-esteem, but more than that, I fear a government that knows no bounds.

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sad_lawrencian 4 years, 7 months ago

In response to 7texdude: If I had my way, there would be a statewide all-encompassing (all workplaces, any buildings accessible by the public) tobacco smoking ban, the drinking age would be 30, penalties for marijuana would be tougher, and people wouldn't have chemical dependencies and addictions that destroy their lives. Like I said, this is all my fantasy land. So I would settle for maybe some real leadership in Topeka: we need another strong governor like Sebelius who will push for a strong statewide smoking ban. We also need tougher enforcement of the drug and alcohol laws that are already on the books. We need tougher sentences for drunk and impaired drivers. And yes, while we have the death penalty, perhaps we should actually use it. My political views are somewhat odd, but Lawrence is honestly the only town I've ever lived in (I'm from New Haven, CT) where I saw real drug dealers trying to sell real drugs to real people in front of a real gas station. (For a moment, I thought I was in New Jersey again...)

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BlackVelvet 4 years, 7 months ago

greenworld (Anonymous) says… So how did they execute a search warrant without probable cause?? LJW can you look into this, I think we might have a lawsuit that could be in the making.

Greenworld, the authorities have to have probable cause to get a search warrant in the first place.

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bearded_gnome 4 years, 7 months ago

MichaelJ, I think GW was engaging in sarcasm with reference to earlier posters.


else illegal is not a good idea. They can't handle the case loads they have! What a stupid idea! And I have to say that the idiots on here spouting off about Obama being behind this probably belong to that crazy ass church in Topeka that believes harrassing Soldiers and their families is a good idea! F off loosers!

---okay "looser" [sic] here it is: The FDA is the federal Food and Drug Administration, that means it is part of the executive branch of our national government. put down the munchies and try hard to focus despite the pot haze in your mind. Mr. Obama was elected to be the president. that means he is at the top of the federal executive branch.
the FDA doesn't enforce Kansas laws.
if Mr. Obama wanted to impact FDA policies at anytime day or night, he can.
though Mr. Obama was elected because of the fawning mincing lamestream media that covered up many of his inadequacies during the election, he is the president. FDA works for him.
youngcsi apparently also has trouble with functioning in a pot haze.
does Mr. Obama use pot? he did use Cocaine, like Billy Mays, and both schlepped health care, both showed up on TV way too much. only Billy Mays gave you a choice.
if K2 is not illegal, FDA couldn't raid Sacred Journey for that. as Bliddel pointed out, and I implied earlier, there is more here than K2. *okay, I know that was taxing, now take two big hits, lean back and just relax, I know, it was hard "looser" [sic].

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peacock 4 years, 7 months ago

better info here...

http://www.kansan.com/news/2010/feb/04/police_officer_herbs/

they were looking for K2 and salvia it sounds like. probably trying to nail them under the analog act.

sad day for a lot of people that believe in medicinal herbs, because both companies mentioned in the kansan article provide a large amount of the medicinal herbs in the states.

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peacock 4 years, 7 months ago

correct that: bouncing bear botanicals provides a large portion of herbs in the US...

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peacock 4 years, 7 months ago

sacred journey gets a bunch of young kids high on potpourri...

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kansasmutt 4 years, 7 months ago

mr-right-wing ) The state is run by Republicans at this time. They are the ones running the show and changing the laws. You might want to think about that !!!!

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chasmo 4 years, 7 months ago

Send the bloody jack booted thugs back to Russia!

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Shardwurm 4 years, 7 months ago

"or perhaps we could take the money the government will spend today and put it into the education budget."

No. Cut the bloated fat out of the education budget instead.

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angeleyes 4 years, 7 months ago

why dont they bust the fuel stop on 23 and harper they sell K-2 there as well / the liquer store there sells alcohol to minors as well. I have personally been witness to this for they sold it to minors I personally know. They do not card both stores for alcohol or cigarettes. They are selling to minors. so why do they bust the soul health stores. I think this is bogus.

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Stuart Evans 4 years, 7 months ago

I can't imagine why so many people lose faith in law enforcement. If they have a legitimate reason to raid this place, it had better not be over K2. and if there is a legitimate reason, it should be made known to the public. transparency my ass.

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lounger 4 years, 7 months ago

Hey wait a minute. Johnson Co. sheriff?? Go take a hike fellas and mess with your own county ey? This is Douglas county - get me DOUGLAS Co!

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rastley 4 years, 7 months ago

@sad_lawrencian:

Wow, you think there should be tougher penalties for people who sell marijuana? They already face the same penalties as murderers in many cases, and all they are doing is selling a harmless plant. And you think the death penalty should be used...for selling a harmless plant. Seriously, you know what's more dangerous? Aspirin. Heck you can even overdose on water even. Think about what you are saying, it's truly sickening. Spend five minutes looking up why marijuana is illegal and maybe you'll understand how backwards it all is. And by the way, they are talking about legalizing it in Kansas and Missouri.

Now go hide under your bed, because there's some cold medicine being sold at the grocery store down the street!

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freepeople 4 years, 7 months ago

Rich people get pills AND shopping....GIVE US POOR PEOPLE A DRUG!

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headdoctor 4 years, 7 months ago

I never did see or hear of the Stovesters showing up. Maybe they were tied up in Jefferson County. Oh wait, this was the FDA not the DEA. Oh well, probably means that at least three law enforcement agencies had one heck of a party past night giving a new concept and meaning to BYOB. Anyone know the code words anymore for a police party? Extra curricular training, or moon howl, or how about a deep religious ceremony.

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angel4dennis 4 years, 7 months ago

I don't understand why K2 is such a big deal. I have incense in my home I don't smoke it. If they are so concerned with it all, why not ban the wrapping paper they use for cigarettes? Seems to me that if you pull that product, it would make it more difficult to roll anything. Weed has been around for centuries and since God gives us the right to chose, I don't see why the government gods can't give us that right. Maybe they should focus on keeping money in Kansas, ending the war, and balancing my stimulus check instead of worrying about the K2. What's next, ban lawn grass because you can roll it and smoke it too. Then people will start adding stuff to it to make the similar effect of weed. THINK about what message you are sending out.

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georgeduke 4 years, 7 months ago

Well, these guys made some pretty funny stuff on K2:

http://www.myspace.com/k2krazykids

Looks like their fun's over. haha.

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xfactor 4 years, 7 months ago

Putting the smack down. Awesome. They had it coming, even the employee referenced above expected it would happen.

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James McGuire 4 years, 7 months ago

Anybody else make the connection that former governor Kathleen Sebelius is the director of the Department of Health and Human Services, which oversees the FDA? May have something to do with it, and I would bet it's not solely about K2.

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jocojim 4 years, 7 months ago

CITIZENS OF LAWRENCE AND DOUGLAS COUNTY - Dont you ask yourself why the Sheriff Dept from neighboring county is in your fair city assisting in a raid on your local businesses? Is this something that the LPD couldn't handle? Why wasnt the Douglas County Sheriffs office involved?

Truth seams to be that the JOCO SO has backed the House Bill with Rep Rob Olson (R - Olathe), and evidently become Olson's personnal police force/puppets when it comes to K2.

On a different note, we live in un-incorporated JOCO, and the JOCO SO is my 'police'. To learn that our Sheriff and deputy's are off in Lawrence shutting down popourri shops jerks my chain.

I'm sure that Olson had absolutely nothing to do with this,, ask him,, he'll tell you!!

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w4545 4 years, 7 months ago

It fries me that this completely trivial issue would ever get more publicity than the REAL crime that's about to take place: the closing of all but ONE of our east Lawrence elementary schools! This would be a detriment to the livelihood of the part of Lawrence that has managed to maintain its uniqueness. It would establish an unfair advantage to the west side that so painfully resembles high-income, conservative, cookie cutter suburbia.

This will do more than just take the educational environment from lower-income neighborhoods, it will also make that part of Lawrence unattractive to new families, thus halting its chances at prosperity.

GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS!!!! First one is at South Junior High on Feb. 9th at 7:00 pm.

P.S. Why care so much about this "K2"? It's a synthetic drug, which is bad. Right? We have a legislator introducing the legalization of medical marijuana. Best to focus your efforts in that direction, in my opinion.

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gsxr600 4 years, 7 months ago

"I inhaled frequently; that was the point"

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rtwngr 4 years, 7 months ago

This whole blog is amazing but not surprising. Everybody is worked up into this fever over a store getting shut down for marketing a substance that mimics a controlled substance. I see people arguably upset about their freedom being regulated by the "government". I see contrasting of the effects of alcohol and cigarettes to the effects of cannabis. Look at your priorities. Look at the bigger picture.

We have a federal government that is spending our money at a rate never before seen in this nation's history. The current president is mortgaging what little freedom that you have left. Our economy is headed for a train wreck and all of you are worried about your next high.

Don't bother telling me what the last administration did because it does not absolve what the current administration is doing. Unless the tide is reversed with the current state of economic affairs, none of you has the least idea what "loss of freedom" will really mean.

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Curtiss 4 years, 7 months ago

Come on, Journal World, you owe us a little more on this story.

If K2 isn't illegal yet, why the raid?

What was seized, and why?

And yes, why in the world was Johnson County handling it?

It would seem as though there are three law enforcement agencies who have too much funding, too many people, nothing to do, and can't find any real crimes.

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feeble 4 years, 7 months ago

Looks like several previous posts have been removed. The owner's lawyer made statements to local media explaining why the feds were involved. Does the LJworld's policy on not naming persons alleged with a crime include statements made by those persons legal representative?

Or does this have to do with the multiple stories/interviews with the owner over on Lawrence.com?

p>ljworld.com readers, important details about this are available through other news outlets. This does appear to be quite serious and not some case of government overreach.
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Charles L Bloss Jr 4 years, 7 months ago

The government cannot ever protect us against all products that people can misuse. Do we outlaw spray paint because some people sniff it? Of course this particular product is apparently misused by our young people, who have no sense when it comes to drugs. Come to think of it, many adults have no sense when it comes to drugs either. If it isn't a prescription drug, I don't use it. Wish everyone followed the same rule. Thank you, Lynn

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asbury 4 years, 7 months ago

I just can't stop shaking my head......among other things, I don't understand why JOCO was involved at all. Now I'm off to read the links posted here. Confusing!

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Richard Payton 4 years, 7 months ago

Note: Johnson County raids K2 store in Douglas County. Where is Ken McGovern? Speculate the JO. CO. Sherriff's smoke K2 then give some to the judge who orders search. This K2 doesn't show on piss test and isn't illegal. Do. Co. Sherriff clean but Jo. Co. Sherriff in daze today! Raid Johnson County tommorrow after march to Save Our Schools!

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Alexander Neighbors 4 years, 7 months ago

georgeduke (Anonymous) says… Well, these guys made some pretty funny stuff on K2: http://www.myspace.com/k2krazykids


gOod jOb guys that song is Pretty good you should re-mix it with a program Autotune

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LiberalButNotStupid 4 years, 7 months ago

Since K2 is really just chemicals sprayed on potpourri, has anyone wondered what else is in the potpourri that they're smoking? I'm thinking that if I wander into a store and buy some potpourri to put out for decoration, then I'm not worried about what's in the wood chips or the dye to make it pretty BECAUSE I'm not going to smoke it. Then again, buy the cheap potpourri from China and spray it with some K2? I'd take a look at it and wonder what else I'm inhaling.

Beyond that, law enforcement isn't that stupid. You don't do a raid on multiple places at the same time looking for K2 when it's not illegal yet. They had to be looking for cactuses and other stuff. Warehouse + retail store = supplier and distributor. The state taxes on the illegal stuff should be plenty to fund the schools.

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rastley 4 years, 7 months ago

@w4545:

"P.S. Why care so much about this “K2”? It's a synthetic drug, which is bad. Right? We have a legislator introducing the legalization of medical marijuana. Best to focus your efforts in that direction, in my opinion."

It's bad because it's a drug? No, that's not right. What do you think your doctor gives you when you're sick? Drugs. Is that bad? And now you are concerned about sick people getting access to marijuana. Go tell people who are dying of cancer to their faces that you want them to suffer until they die. Do some research on the subject and try to find some legitimate reasons why marijuana is illegal, while you can get alcohol and tobacco at any grocery store. There aren't any.

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dippedinmoonlight 4 years, 7 months ago

If these government officials were really worried about our health they would work to outlaw booze, cigarettes, pesticides, and red meat. There concern is obviously not in protecting us as citizens, but they concerned that our consciousnessness will expand, and there will be a rise up like in the 60's. They want us to: go to work, go shopping, go home, watch t.v, go to bed, then get up the next day and do it all over again! There are those of us that don't want to live n a box!

All plants are messengers that speak to us, if we are willing to listen. They are healers. People in every culture around the world have been using plant medicines since the dawn of man. How do these officials justify oppressing certain sacred plants. They have obviously never tried them! If you are going to regulate plants, why not outlaw plants that are poisonous or that can kill people like belladonna?

So were worried about the economy... K2 was bringing in hundreds of thousand of dollars in taxes every month. It was creating jobs. Now even more people in this state are unemployed, how’s that for a drain on the economy?

I thought that we lived in a free country! If I don't have the right to smoke whatever I want to smoke, then I don't even have the most basic freedom there is. The freedom to decide what I do with my own mind and body. I guess now I will have to go back smoking marijuana. Call me a criminal!!!

This man Jon Sloan that was arrested, his hands and feet were cuffed as though he had murdered someone. Why don't we save our tax dollars and jail space for real criminals. If you are not hurting anyone, where's the crime!!! I send prayers to him and his family.

It seems to me that the real illegal action is with the government officials that stole all of the still legal K2. I thought that in this country to make something illegal there were steps that must be taken, and order in which things happen. They certainly threw that out the window now didn't they?

I pray for our future as a society!

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