Archive for Tuesday, February 2, 2010

Ban on K2 advances in the House

The Legislature’s march to snuff out K2 continued Tuesday, as the House gave preliminary approval to make illegal the chemicals in the herbal mixture that some say creates a marijuana-like high. But some users of the substance have started an Online petition against the legislation.

February 2, 2010, 11:55 a.m. Updated February 3, 2010, 12:00 a.m.


Petition supports K2

Local proponents of K2 have set up an online petition as they continue their fight against lawmakers’ efforts to essentially ban the herbal mixture, which law enforcement said is being used by young people to get high.

The petition, which can be accessed through the recently formed Web site, had gained 49 signatures by Tuesday afternoon.

It was created by employees of Sacred Journey, a Lawrence store that sells the incense and is passing out fliers regarding the facts and benefits of the ingredients in K2.

“We’re going to gain traction; this is an important issue,” said Aubry Gabbard, an employee of the store who said she uses the substance for undiagnosed medical reasons. “There are plenty of people who can understand why it can be good for you.”

— The Legislature’s march to snuff out K2 continued Tuesday, as the House gave preliminary approval to make illegal the chemicals in the herbal mixture that some say creates a marijuana-like high.

“This is the new drug of choice in schools,” said state Rep. Rob Olson, R-Olathe.

K2 users and sellers, including The Sacred Journey in Lawrence, have opposed the legislation, while law officials, including Douglas County Sheriff Ken McGovern, supported the bill.

Last month, the Senate approved a similar measure, 36-1. On Tuesday, the House advanced House Bill 2411 on a voice vote and will require one more vote before final passage.

State Rep. Marti Crow, D-Leavenworth, spoke against the legislation, saying more research was needed on whether the chemicals in K2 could be used in pain relief.

But state Rep. Pat Colloton, R-Leawood, said use of K2 could be dangerous.

“It is marijuana-like. It does cause intoxication,” Colloton said. “The person who does take it will be under the influence,” she said.

During hearings on the bill, which would make possession of K2 a misdemeanor offense, an 18-year-old Overland Park woman said the substance helped relieve pain from a chronic illness.

In addition to the K2 compounds, the bill would make illegal a couple of other chemicals that mimic the effects of other illegal drugs.


jfcm77 8 years, 3 months ago

Ban Aspirin. It relieves headaches, which just isn't natural.

MrNoGuac 8 years, 3 months ago

Back to the old drug of choice.

It's too bad this "New drug of choice" is going to get banned because at least this is taxable. Now all that income will flow back to the black market.

kansasredlegs 8 years, 3 months ago

At least one legislator who believes in getting the facts and not anecdotal stories before voting on an issue -- Thank you Ms. Crow.

Drug of choice in schools: Alcohol, nicotine, Ritalin, Xanax, Hydrocodone, etc. Save alcohol & nicotine, all legal with a prescription & readily obtainable. Legislators, get your act together and stop using the K2 issue to deflect from the real issues confronting this state.

maxcrabb 8 years, 3 months ago

I have yet to see an actual citizen (anyone NOT involved with the legislature or law enforcement) speak out against this substance.

rcb187 8 years, 3 months ago

Yes! More laws restricting personal choices! I am glad that this state, with so many champions of Freedom and Individual Liberty, is piling even more restrictions on them. We are so ridiculous.

woodscolt 8 years, 3 months ago

I have never smoked or ingested K2 nor do I have any intention to so I guess that qualifies me to support the move to ban it. Morons.

Oh chicken little the sky is falling, people are getting high on incense, at least the all reliable "some" say that. Who the hell is "some".

State Rep. Rob Olson, R-Olathe, may very well choose to support the ban but for now is the only person doing his job. Kudos to Rob Olson.

leeroy_johnson 8 years, 3 months ago

Glad my drug of choice, alcohol, will never be banned. If they banned alcohol, what would the politicians take to get their fix before work?

Steve Bunch 8 years, 3 months ago

Morons. Someone fetch my fiddle--I hear Topeka's burning.

Stuart Evans 8 years, 3 months ago

This is absolutely ridiculous. There is no medical reason for banning this substance, and the lawmakers have not consulted anyone as to what the long term effects could be. In fact, this would never even be brought up if it hadn't been compared to marijuana. Which brings us to another point. Marijuana has never caused a single documented death anywhere. Meanwhile, "harmless" medications, such as aspirin, kill over 7,000 people a year. and alcohol & tobacco (legal choices) kill well over half a million Americans directly each and every year. This ignorance in government makes me want to scream. The laws regarding marijuana use are deeply rooted in racism and big business (alcohol, pharmaceutical, timber, chemical & don't forget law enforcement). How about our elected officials take some time to actually read the facts, instead of relying on their religious morals and lifelong propaganda indoctrination to legislate for us.

There has been a great awakening in this country with 14 states signing on for medical marijuana and at least one state preparing to legalize marijuana for adult use. Kansas really needs to be on the forefront of this debate, not sitting on the sidelines pretending that we're holier than thou.

Jcjayhawk1 8 years, 3 months ago

Don't forget Obama eliminating the federal prosecution of medical marijuana operations and use.

Danimal 8 years, 3 months ago

I wouldn't advise that anyone smoke a potpourri, or inhale any smoldering plant material for that matter. This is just a no-name legislator trying to make some political bones and win some points, and it's working. As long as we have buffoons like Rob Olson in charge we will always be bringing up the rear. Personal choice died in this country a long time ago (along with social mobility), some people just haven't realized it yet.

Ricky_Vaughn 8 years, 3 months ago

This is about what expected from the KS government.
Don't forget where you are people!

Melissa Sigler 8 years, 3 months ago

I'd say we need to get legal drug abuse under control before we go after this stuff, honestly. I rarely hear about problems being caused by this (actually, I've never heard of a problem because of K2, specifically)...but legal drugs are obviously a huge problem.

Lets tackle those who prescribe it too easily and those who subsequently abuse it?

Jeremiah Jefferson 8 years, 3 months ago

K2? Where in the wide world of sports does a guy get that? Wouldn't it be easier to buy a sack of pot and a bag of methamphetamene? Oh wait, it is easier, duh. Quit wasting tax payer dollars on stupid stuff like K2. Whats next, cigarettes and beer.

greenworld 8 years, 3 months ago

Ban it and kids will move right on to the next herb or thing that they sell at the Merc. I mean there is only like 150 types of things you can smoke. I heard poison Ivy if you smoke it will give you the

Liberty275 8 years, 3 months ago

Thank god for a government that loves us so much they are willing to stick their noses so far into our lives that they can't breathe in order to protect us, the unwashed masses, from ourselves. I welcome our new insect overlords, same as the old insect overlords.

I can't believe I pay people to be so dumb.

Liberty275 8 years, 3 months ago

"I like to sniff fresh cut grass after I mow. It gives me an euphoric high so ban fresh cut grass."

Now that's just silly. Everyone knows you can get a better high from snorting snow from a freshly shoveled sidewalk.

lawthing 8 years, 3 months ago

I am pretty sure K2 is a gateway drug. Smoking it will probaly lead to a massive heroin overdose within days.

Chrissy Neibarger 8 years, 3 months ago

KPR did a really good report on K2 a couple weeks ago:

The scientist that created the "drug" is flabbergasted that people are smoking it. it wasn't intended for that and he claims that we don't know the toxicity of it. He believes it may be carcinogenic. please listen to the report. It's short but very informative.

Zype 8 years, 3 months ago

jcjayhawk1: Obama didn't do that. The drug czar did.

Fleeba: I'm sure he is. If I created a synthetic THC, I'd be mortified that anyone would ever consider smoking it. Utterly mortified.

Ricky_Vaughn 8 years, 3 months ago

fleeba (Anonymous) says… He believes it may be carcinogenic. ======================================= Gee so is:

smoking cigarettes drinking diet soda too many sun tans

Let's just make it illegal to go outside. Then the government can really have their way with us.

Ricky_Vaughn 8 years, 3 months ago

@ was_freashpowder2

That was hilarious! Thanks for the link!

methastophalize 8 years, 3 months ago

even worse that now 500 high school kids gotta go over to redbud ln to cop this k2. i say we ascend on the court house in vast numbers and protest golf,liquor cigarettes and child know what most of our city leaders overindulge in. and if need be i can name quite a few.

methastophalize 8 years, 3 months ago

i've smoked this isnt nothing like a marijuana high...believe me. unless your coppin the rio graned ditch weed. k pot will get you a better high. i've also copped for over half the citys politicans kids too and they all say theyll stick to the real stuff.

earline james 8 years, 3 months ago

I want to sign this petition, but I'm having trouble finding the site mentioned in the sidebar. I could use a little help getting to the petition, to sign it. A link might help. Any helpful, technically savvy people around this morning?

werekoala 8 years, 3 months ago

Would love to see legislative opponents include a rider that tacks on the increased cigarette and alcohol sales taxes proposed by Gov. Parkinson. Because those are 2 substances with proven health risks, and oh by the way, we're broke. Maybe that would make "The Grandstandin' GOP" think twice, or at least approach the issue with a shred of consistency.

After all: the children... won't someone think of them???

PS - Any bets on how this would be a non-story if the effects were described as an "alcohol-type high"?

Chrissy Neibarger 8 years, 3 months ago

Zype (Anonymous) says Fleeba: I'm sure he is. If I created a synthetic THC, I'd be mortified that anyone would ever consider smoking it. Utterly mortified.

The thing is that this was NOT meant to be a THC synthetic. They were just using chemicals to test out bonding agents to organic material. That's why it's scary that people are smoking it.. It was never meant to be inhaled or ingested. it was a bonding agent!

Don't get me wrong.. I'm not saying that this definitely needs to be illegal, they just really need to do some serious research and find out what chemicals are in this and what they will do to everyone in the long run. I just have a bad feeling about it..

frankwiles 8 years, 3 months ago

Can we start working on legislation to ban stupid people please? They are the the sole source of all of our problems. Let's ban them quick! We must think about the children!

OzChicklet 8 years, 3 months ago

@ fleeba - so ban K2 and legalize marijuana. No one has ever overdosed, died, or anything else from it.

Why aren't our politicians banning text messaging while driving? This is so ridiculous!

chasmo 8 years, 3 months ago

Prohibition does not work, has never worked, will never work. As long as there is someone willing to use banned substance there will be someone willing to collect the money. If it is illegal then those collecting the money will be outlaws. No tax, no regulation. The only risk will be a fine or jail. Now who wants to pay to jail more people for selling something that people want.

No ones property, life, or liberty is safe when the legislature is in session. Vote the bloody fools out of office. This from a 54 year old X republican turned independent.

Chrissy Neibarger 8 years, 3 months ago

@OzChicklet. I'm all for legalizing marijuana for medicinal use. I agree that it's a safe, natural substance that has never killed anyone (other from their own stoned stupidity), unlike alcohol.

Recreationaly, i think too many people would abuse it and no-one would ever get any work done! lol.

Kathy Theis-Getto 8 years, 3 months ago

Oh, but it is so obvious the proponents of this bill care soooo much about children; ban K2 and cut school funding.

greenworld 8 years, 3 months ago

So why isnt Salvia illegal?? I heard of alot more kids using it and its suppose to make you fall over for 5 minutes and come out of your body and have a deep hallucination. I guess its not what their worried about however.

dh4569 8 years, 3 months ago

OMG--I just purchased, at the best health food store in town a combination of Vitamin D, 1000 IU, and K2, 45 mg. I am 65 yrs old, and wanted that supplement because it removes calcium from arteries and deposits it in bones. A godsend for senior citizens, but will I be arrested for trying to take care of my health with the ultimate goal of outliving Obama???

kevinnelson1111 8 years, 3 months ago

i cant believe this a bann on this stuff allready they dont even know the good it does i dont have to take my xanax or hydrocodone as often witch eat away at your kidneys and liver i add when useing this product it is a great product .

think_about_it 8 years, 3 months ago

Kevin- I find in hilarious that the only words you can spell correctly are the names of your prescriptions.

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