Honolulu — Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie wants to find a way to release more information about President Barack Obama’s Hawaii birth and dispel conspiracy theories that he was born elsewhere.
Abercrombie was a friend of Obama’s parents and knew him as a child, and is deeply troubled by the effort to cast doubt on the president’s citizenship.
The newly elected governor will ask the state attorney general’s office about what can be done to put an end to questions about Obama’s birth documentation from Aug. 4, 1961, spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Tuesday.
“He had a friendship with Mr. Obama’s parents, and so there is a personal issue at hand,” Dela Cruz said. “Is it going to be done immediately? No, the first thing on our list is the economy.”
It’s unclear what Abercrombie could do because Hawaii’s privacy laws have long barred the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who doesn’t have a tangible interest.
Hawaii’s health director said last year and in 2008 that she had seen and verified Obama’s original vital records, and birth notices in two Honolulu newspapers were published within days of Obama’s birth at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu.
So-called “birthers” claim Obama is ineligible to be president because they say there’s no proof he was born in the United States, with many of the skeptics questioning whether he was actually born in Kenya, his father’s home country.
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cato_the_elder 2 years, 4 months ago
Aside from this lingering issue that still apparently bothers Governor Abercrombie, why won't Obama release his undergraduate and law school transcripts? What's he trying to hide?
snap_pop_no_crackle 2 years, 4 months ago
We still don't know why the Klingon surrendered her license to practice law in IL. That's generally done to avoid an investigation.
cato_the_elder 2 years, 4 months ago
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cato_the_elder 2 years, 4 months ago
I suggest you look in the mirror. Take a good look quickly before it cracks.
cato_the_elder 2 years, 4 months ago
Defenseless, insincere wishes of "good luck" given by those who wish no good luck at all for the recipient are the best indicator of immaturity that I know.
TheYetiSpeaks 2 years, 4 months ago
Simple: Cato the elder isn't running for President. Obama is the first President in quite sometime who's info is NOT readily available. You can go online right now and find Bush, Kerry, Gore, McCain, Clinton, and elder Bush's (and even some pre-internet Presidents) transcripts and birth info rather easily. It's part of a process during an election to vet the candidates by the media. However, Barack with some sort of misguided priciples didn't believe that this was pertinent information for his employers (we the people) to have, and apparently he was right. I, for one, like to think about myself as an employer when I vote. It helps me put the candidates in perspective and Obama's withholding of background info and his general lack of experience was enough to swing this moderate's vote.
Number 1 grandma's insulting retort makes me wonder what exactly she is voting for since she obviously does not desire this background information.....Did you just check his Facebook page or something?
TheYetiSpeaks 2 years, 4 months ago
Except, I never claimed to be a birther. In fact I believe he WAS born here (not that it matters now, anyway). I was simply talking about the transcripts among other things....although Bush probably only released his to prove to people he wasn't an idiot...that didn't work, lol. My point remains the same, when applying for the most prestigious job in the land, I find it odd not to divulge all this information. He is either hiding something or he is being overly stubborn. Neither one looks good on him.
cato_the_elder 2 years, 4 months ago
N1G, the fact that you would state that if someone merely runs for the presidency that alone would prove that he was born in America underscores your abject inability to converse intelligently with anyone about politics.
TopJayhawk 2 years, 4 months ago
1 Grannie
And you should keep your rose colored glassses and blinders on on this one. And go back to being a Grannie. It probably suits you best.
TopJayhawk 2 years, 4 months ago
HIlly and Billy didn't either.
The main reason is that the school was mostly pass fail, and none really distinguished themselves.
snap_pop_no_crackle 2 years, 4 months ago
Way to re-energize an issue that had mostly died down, governor dude.
windjammer 2 years, 4 months ago
None of your damn business.
Restaurant_Man 2 years, 4 months ago
“For those who want Obama to present his birth certificate to you, I want to see Sarah Pallin’s high school diploma!” Bill Mahr
kernal 2 years, 4 months ago
Bill Mahr for Press Secretary!
Fossick 2 years, 4 months ago
"Is it going to be done immediately? No, the first thing on our list is the economy.”
If it was going to be done, how long could it possibly take? It's not like the governor or his staff are "working on" the economy in denim coveralls three shifts a day like it's some big piece of machinery in the basement of the capitol. All it takes is a phone call.
But secondly, if you're not going to do it now, and maybe can't do it anyway, why bother to bring it up? Good grief, while you're at it, why don't you publicly speculate that the original might have gotten lost since 2008? If you're going to unnecessarily revive a conspiracy, you might as well do it in style.
shadowlady 2 years, 4 months ago
Bet Palins information will be a lot easier to find than Obama'a
kernal 2 years, 4 months ago
Sarah's will be easier as there's not much to look for..
Yeoman2 2 years, 4 months ago
I wonder why they are even bothering to spend time with this? The conspiracy crowd loves to ignore facts, it is their very being to do so. The grassy knoll, the faked moon landing, the explosives hidden in the twin towers, Obama's birth information, all this feeds the delierious and ignorant fools who continue to regurgitate this garbage, and it makes them happy to do so. So why play into their hands with more factual information? They will simply reject it and continue on in their little cloudless world. Ignore them, it will save public money trying to bell the cat. Everybody get a life and move on.
Agnostick 2 years, 4 months ago
barrypenders is nothing but a clown troll with no life. Why is he still around? Somebody desperate for eyeball counts or something?
Agnostick 2 years, 4 months ago
As president, Barack Obama shouldn't expect any greater or increased right to privacy, above and beyond any other average American citizen.
That being said, I'm not sure he should get anything less than the average American citizen, either.
If any records are released without Obama's permission, what line will we cross? Will that mean, then, that anyone's personal, private information can be released by another party if there's enough internet clamoring for it?
Suppose we were talking about a Republican or independent candidate/elected official? Would the "birthers" still be "birthers?"
Agnostick 2 years, 4 months ago
Another example of birther stupidity:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kagan.asp
Agnostick 2 years, 4 months ago
From the Federal Election Commission:
http://www.fec.gov/law/litigation/berg_b_mem_supp_tro.pdf
http://www.fec.gov/law/litigation/berg_mem_order_dismiss.pdf
jonas_opines 2 years, 4 months ago
If it was released those who wish to support the conspiracy would simply say that it is forged.
snap_pop_no_crackle 2 years, 4 months ago
And you thought The Neverending Story was a German movie from the 80s.....
bearded_gnome 2 years, 4 months ago
It’s unclear what Abercrombie could do because Hawaii’s privacy laws have long barred the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who doesn’t have a tangible interest.
---these documents and the school transcripts could've been released years ago if Mr. Louie Obama had chosen to do so.
and siting the newspaper announcements in this article as proof is just silly. they are no verification as they originate from the work of filing documents. they are secondary and thus meaningless.
so why doesn't Mr. Obama release everything?
[note for the really crazy left posters, just to help you and save a lot of blowhardedness: nowhere in this post or in any other of mine do I indicate that I am a "birther" or that I believe that Mr. Louie Obama was actually born in Kenya. I have expressed a healthy skepticism given some unavoidable facts.]
Agnostick 2 years, 4 months ago
On the other hand, if it thinks like a "birther," and writes like a "birther," and posts like a "birther"...
I see no reason why a private citizen named Louie Obama should have to reveal any private, personal information. Would you expect the same of any other private citizen? Rush Limbaugh, for example?
Fossick 2 years, 4 months ago
FWIW, the newspaper articles noted, which come within a week or two of the alleged birth, are reasonable proof that Obama was born in Hawaii. They are not 'meaningless,' they are regular, ordinary, even mundane, and as such have an historical gravity that no 'official' release today could have.
One can argue, today, that any 'official' release today is made to order, and beginning with an assumption that the President is a manchurian, plays right into the script. But to explain away the normal, everyday, mundane public announcement of the birth of Barack Hussien Obama II in Hawaii that occurred in that place at that time demands a conspiracy of such foresight, power, and magnitude that one who believes it might as well abandon any hope that he can do anything against it at all.
Either Obama was born in Hawaii, or there is an omnipotent conspiracy that picks presidents a generation or two in the future. I don't see any other option. In fact, I don't see the second option at all.
JustNoticed 2 years, 4 months ago
Just another distraction from the real crime going on right in front of our faces. Just another meaningless, nasty piece of gristle for the sheeple to chew on.
Agnostick 2 years, 4 months ago
It's pretty obvious to me what this user needs to seek help for:
http://www.healthline.com/adamcontent/narcissistic-personality-disorder#symptoms
JustNoticed 2 years, 4 months ago
Why don't you post a picture of yourself in your underwear while you're at it. You know you want to.
windjammer 2 years, 4 months ago
That you are.
Agnostick 2 years, 4 months ago
Doesn't the Federal Election Commission verify the eligibility of all presidential candidates? During the administration of the (then-)current president? In 2008, that was George W. Bush.
tomatogrower 2 years, 4 months ago
And the FBI investigates and gives out security clearances to candidates. I believe that senators and representatives are also investigated and given security clearances. Of course the aluminum hatted nut cases are sure the FBI is in on this coverup. Either that, or it's just another fact they choose to just ignore. They don't like facts getting in the way of the reality they have created.
cait48 2 years, 4 months ago
Hear that? That's the splat of blood and bone pieces hitting the walls as this long dead horse is beaten once again. It's already a puddle of junk. Can we give it a rest?
tomatogrower 2 years, 4 months ago
So, Tom, you believe all that stuff?
cait48 2 years, 4 months ago
Why? snopes.com has been around a long time and they do it for free.
pace 2 years, 4 months ago
I think it is time we came clean, Tom, I have news. Everyone but you has been let in on the real scoop. Everyone thought it was funny not to tell you that Obama was born in Hawaii, and was legally a citizen..
TopJayhawk 2 years, 4 months ago
Hmm They must be relatives too.
TopJayhawk 2 years, 4 months ago
You do not have to be born in this country to be a Senator or other local politician.
Try to follow along.
Maybe some remedial Govt. 101 could help you.
jonas_opines 2 years, 4 months ago
You don't have to be born in this country to be president either. I assume someone as informed as you knew that already.
snap_pop_no_crackle 2 years, 4 months ago
What topjay said. Plus, the corruptocrats that run Chicago could get a tree stump elected if they thought it was in their own best interest.
staff04 2 years, 4 months ago
I think this is a cleverly timed political move on the governor's part...someone above asked why you would want to stoke an issue that had all but died down? It made a large portion of Republicans (both elected and voters) look like complete clowns during the 2008 cycle, driving many rational moderates to distance themselves as far from that set as possible.
cait48 2 years, 4 months ago
You may be on to something. After all, the Republicans said the words "weapons of mass destruction" 148 times at the 2004 RNC convention long after it had been debunked.
snap_pop_no_crackle 2 years, 4 months ago
How does this tie into the drubbing that American voters gave the Democrats in the 2010 election cycle?
Agnostick 2 years, 4 months ago
I'd say it's as relevant as the drubbing that American voters gave conservative Republican crackpots in the 2008 election cycle.
snap_pop_no_crackle 2 years, 4 months ago
Perhaps less relevant that the time Dear Leader referred to himself 132 times in one speech. http://hotair.com/archives/2010/02/17/obamateurism-of-the-day-212/ The teleprompter is treating him like a dog!
Agnostick 2 years, 4 months ago
I'm guessing all you can find is complete darkness and a hell of a stench--since you obviously have your head up the "center" of your own backside.
oneeye_wilbur 2 years, 4 months ago
The governor knew him as a child but did not know him at birth. Obama will release the information as soon as the fake documents are prepared. Obamination continues.
xr650rsource 2 years, 4 months ago
Obama Ran as "Kenyan-born canidate" aginst Jack Ryan in 2004, and won the Senate seat. This evidence is being scrubbed from the internet everywhere. Obama ran for senate as Kenyan born. Didn't the Supreme court order the birth cert., and Obama failed to make it by the due date?
sibkiss 2 years, 4 months ago
This President said he was running on transparency in government because he saw the need for it from the prior administration record of secrecy and obstruction. But it didn't sit well with most who saw him spend over a million on lawyers - and still does, to hide in secrecy his past, including his college records, CIA connections, his having various SS numbers, traveling to Pakistan when no other citizens were allowed, and why his past included defending his Kenyan origin, including his wife (and grandmom too) publicly declaring Kenya as his home country in videos. He declared to an opponent for a political seat that he was not born an American citizen. He said it didn't matter because he wasn't running for President, just Senator in IL. There are more indications of his ineligibility, his name sake father may have been a UK citizen, Barack was also named Barry Soetoro and an Indonesian citizen of Islamic faith when his mom married his stepdad and on and on.
It seems he wanted the blacks in IL to think he was Kenyan, but the whites to think he was American, at different times to get the votes required and the funds required to run for public offices.
Regardless his policies and buddies are all straight from Wall Street and the Fed. They have benefited the most, as well as other BP, Soros, Chinese, Halliburton, big brother industrial military complex cronies who are building up a police state around us, keeping Gitmo open, Patriot Act in place, destroying the value of our dollar, our unemployment crushing us, and the illegal alien and homosexual extremist groups he adoringly promotes and parties with. His insurance corporate buddies that lobbied for the Clintonesque health care package won his help, no matter what the consequences.
xr650rsource 2 years, 4 months ago
Thank you for some intelligent common sense. I think Obama is CIA planted. He has constantly covered his tracks. Law school grads don't remember him being there. And we know for a fact that he worked for Business International Group, a known CIA front. They paid some of his tuition.
Kontum1972 2 years, 4 months ago
gee whiz..a lot of you talk about the CIA.....how many of u have ever worked for the "spooks"? the majority of you couldn't ever qualify for a TS/SCrypto clearance, and quite possibly most of you have never been in military service to defend this country.
arm-chair patriots...you make me want to vomit.
sit at home and wave your flag..the real AMERICANS are over seas...keeping the bad guys away so u can play GI Joe here online. Every member in my family has worn the uniform from ww2 and on...i find it kind of odd that no one who has kids in the service of our country has not come on here and wrote the same crap most of do..esp shewmon..where did u serve..besides your mums apron. Every member in my family has served our country in uniform. I was 20 when i went to Nam after flight school..what were u doing in 1971?
obtw, i still serve our country, i have for almost 30 years...bite me...!
xr650rsource 2 years, 4 months ago
No one cares about your long legacy of military history in your family. You are off base and off the point. No one cares about your need to pat yourself on the back, with the "back in Nam'" comment, or what we were doing in 1971.
Lots of people have served in the military. Your not the only one.
No one here claims to be experts on the CIA. Get over yourself, and your horrific grammar. No one is going to "bite" you, either.
These are the facts:
Obama worked for Business International Group while in Law School. Do some research for yourself and find out who they are, and what they do. They are a very well known CIA front. They paid part of his tuition.
Obama is Wall Street's "wet dream". Look at his cabinet. It's all Wall Street Thugs.
I have yet to hear of anyone who remembers Obama in Law school, in his graduation class. If you can find anyone, you let me know. I would love to see the yearbook.
Obama did not meet the Supreme Court deadline for proving his US birth, with the Hawaii papers.
This blog is about whether or not Obama was born in the USA. It has nothing to do with your ideology, your ignorant comments, or any other gibberish you have to say, Kontum1972.
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