Archive for Tuesday, August 31, 2010

All-in-one flu shots already available to public

August 31, 2010


— It’s flu-shot season already, and for the first time health authorities are urging nearly everyone to get vaccinated. There is even a new high-dose version for people 65 or older.

What a difference a year makes: Crowds lined up for hours for scarce shots during last fall’s swine flu pandemic, when infections peaked well before enough vaccine could be produced. This year, a record vaccine supply is expected — an all-in-one inoculation that now promises protection against that swine flu strain plus two other kinds of influenza.

Shipments began so early that drugstores are offering vaccinations amid their back-to-school sales.

But without last year’s scare factor, the question is how many people will heed the new policy for near-universal vaccination. No more stopping to check if you’re on a high-risk list: A yearly dose is recommended for virtually everyone except babies younger than 6 months — the shot isn’t approved for tots that young — and people with severe allergies to the eggs used to brew it.

“Influenza is serious, and anyone, including healthy people, can get the flu and spread the flu,” said Dr. Anne Schuchat of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “Flu vaccines are the best way to protect yourself and those around you.”

The CDC was moving toward that policy even before last year’s pandemic brought home an inescapable fact: The flu virus doesn’t just kill grandparents and babies and people with weak lungs or hearts, although they’re particularly vulnerable. It also can kill healthy pregnant women and 30-somethings. And 5-year-olds.

“We were discussing how we were going to go get his Star Wars Halloween costume after he got out of the hospital ... and all of a sudden his eyes lost their focus,” said Serese Marotta of Dayton, Ohio, describing for reporters how her son Joseph, 5, died of swine flu last October before vaccine was available in her community. She urged families to make vaccination a priority.


Maddy Griffin 7 years, 9 months ago

Just imagine how much money Big Pharma could make if everyone got an annual flu shot. I'll pass.

AnonymousBosch 7 years, 9 months ago

Well, I hope your being vulnerable to the flu doesn't infect any of your grandkids, "gram." This movement isn't about making money. The flu shot is affordable, and it's one way to make people healthier and to make life safer for people in high risk situations - age, immunity disorders, etc. You're selfish.

newmedia 7 years, 9 months ago

Just imagine how much money Big Funeral could make if no one got an annual flu shot.

gr 7 years, 9 months ago

media, you are not familiar with the null hypothesis, are you?

gr 7 years, 9 months ago

"and for the first time health authorities are urging nearly everyone to get vaccinated. "


Would reasonable questions to ask be: What percentage of the population got vaccinated last year? How effective was the "supposed" vaccination on the disease? Does the "effectiveness" warrant "near-universal vaccination"?

Meaning, they speculate to us this unproven fantasy of "herd immunity", requiring high level of vaccination to be effective. I seem to recall something about 30% got vaccinated. The so called pork-flu "epidemic" was a dud. Either someone was trying to get a hook in our mouths, or 30% vaccination rates were quite effective.

As far as this "herd immunity" fantasy goes, what about the crop refuge areas required to prevent disease resistance? It's been my experience the ones promoting the mandatory forced injection of highly toxic substances into everyone have not a clue what "crop refuge areas" are. One place you can learn something about them is where you'll find the concerns of too little of a non-treatment area. This jeopardizes the entire program. If there is concern of too large of a treatment of pests, with concern for failure due to inadequate non-treated areas, how is pork-flu not a "pest" and why would it be different?

But hey, if you are going to stick your head in the ground and think magic witch potions ( are going to protect you, - It's still not too late to get your 2009 pork flu vaccine!

AnonymousBosch 7 years, 9 months ago

Folks, Wikipedia is not a "real" source. It's not authoritative at all - anyone can change it. No one recognizes it as having any authority; try again.

Here's an example: Hugh Pickens writes "The Philippine Daily Inquirer reports on a recent case where the Office of the Solicitor General (OSG) lost an appeal after seeking to impeach the testimony of a defendant's expert witness by citing an article from Wikipedia. In her brief, the defendant said 'the authority, alluded to by oppositor-appellant, the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders DSM-IV-TR," was taken from an Internet website commonly known as Wikipedia,' and argued that Wikipedia itself contains a disclaimer saying it 'makes no guarantee of validity.' The court in finding for the defendant said in its decision that it found 'incredible ... if not a haphazard attempt, on the part of the (OSG) to impeach an expert witness, with, as pointed out by (the defendant) unreliable information. This is certainly unacceptable evidence, nothing short of a mere allegation totally unsupported by authority.'" (from a site that is currently experiencing server issues - another problem with internet sources; see the original story here:

In other words, evidence from Wikipedia is "unacceptable" and "totally unsupported by authority."

gr 7 years, 9 months ago

Bosch, who besides me made reference to wikipedia? Therefore, I will assume your comment was directed at me.

It is quite apparent you did not read the links nor even tried to understand what I was saying. Unless, of course, you really truly are ignorant and have never heard of crop refuge areas and thought wikipedia just made it up. Better start understanding some agricultural topics as in, where does your food come from -- it's not the store. There is great concern about resistance building up and the requirements of refuge areas. What about them do you not understand nor wish to?

In case you are referring to the other link, what about pharmakeia do you not understand nor wish to? Maybe you could talk to someone about Greek.

LadyJ 7 years, 9 months ago

I don't get paid sick days so I'll get the shot since it is "no work, no pay". Go to work sick and you could make someone else sick and they may have to take an unpaid sick day.

akt2 7 years, 9 months ago

Influenza is an equal opportunity disease that is communicable. It kills the young, the middle aged and the old. Unless you live in a bubble you will be exposed. Your children will be exposed in school. Everything you touch in public increases your risk. It's a lot healthier and more effective to get the vaccine, than to try and dodge germs. Respiratory illness is nothing to mess with.

gr 7 years, 9 months ago

"Unless you live in a bubble you will be exposed." As we have for centuries.

"It's a lot healthier and more effective to get the vaccine," Any science to back up your opinion?

akt2 7 years, 9 months ago

I don't have any scientific evidence. Just a decade of working in health care and my personal observations of the effects of influenza. How it spreads, how it presents, and how it can kill a person. Call me crazy, but I believe in vaccinations. Flu, tetanus, pneumonia to name a few. Many diseases are preventable in this day and age. You never really know what people are spreading around.

gr 7 years, 9 months ago

akt2, you may well know "How it spreads, how it presents, and how it can kill a person". But how do you make the leap of faith to believing in vaccinations? What does that have to do with it? But then, you did say you don't have any scientific evidence....

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