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Obama’s stand on mosque insensitive, GOP says

August 18, 2010

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— Republican candidates around the country seized on President Barack Obama’s support for the right of Muslims to build a mosque near ground zero, assailing him as an elitist who is insensitive to the families of the Sept. 11 victims.

From statehouses to state fairs on Tuesday, Republican incumbents and challengers unleashed an almost unified line of criticism against the president days after he forcefully defended the construction of a $100 million Islamic center two blocks from the site of the 2001 terror attacks.

Recalling the emotion of that deadly day, Republicans said that while they respect religious freedom, the president’s position was cold and academic, lacking compassion and empathy for the victims’ families.

“He is thinking like a lawyer and not like an American, making declarations without America’s best interest in mind,” said Andrew Harris, a Republican running for Congress in Maryland against first-term Democratic Rep. Frank Kratovil. That line — emerging as a boilerplate attack — forced the endangered Democrat to respond.

“I mean, it seems to me those are issues related to local zoning laws and so forth, and that’s a decision that they’re going to have to make, but I don’t see the federal government having any role in that,” Kratovil said.

In Ohio, where the president was headed Wednesday as part of a three-state political swing, Republican congressional candidate Jim Renacci took issue with Obama’s position and challenged his opponent, first-term Democrat John Boccieri, to do likewise.

“Just because we may have the right to do something, doesn’t necessarily make it right to do it,” Renacci said.

The Boccieri campaign said the candidate was unavailable for comment Tuesday.

In New York, one of the developers of the planned Islamic Center said in a television interview Tuesday he was dismayed that the project had become a national political issue. “I’m surprised at the way politics is being played in 2010,” Sharif El-Gamal told NY-1. “There are issues that are affecting our country which are real issues — unemployment, poverty, the economy. It’s a really sad day for America.”

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Mike Ford 3 years, 8 months ago

dummies never admit mistakes or the fact that they not only created the problems Obama's stuck with but they're simotaneously stopping anyone from fixing their problems.. they're like the person who doesn't want the car to go so they step on the brake for everyone.

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jayhawklawrence 3 years, 8 months ago

I listened to Rush Limbaugh for awhile while driving. I have not done that for a few years. He was speaking on this issue and I was stunned to listen as one false statement after another spewed out of his mouth like box cars on a long train.

I have a hard time wondering how people can take this kind of discussion seriously at all. Obviously, the Republicans are masters at this game.

I think the more the truth comes out, if it does, the more we will discover that this so called controversy is political nonsense. It is almost totally contrived just as the death panels were. I have considered voting Republican because of some issues but I cannot have any respect for them if they are this phony.

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bisky1 3 years, 8 months ago

thank you barrick and nancy hope the november elections work out well for you idiots

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ljwanonymous 3 years, 8 months ago

bea, Goldwater was the last true conservative. What we have now are totally clueless nutcases claiming to be conservative. Exactly why I quit voting Republican years ago,

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beatrice 3 years, 8 months ago

The Constitution must be an insensitive document then.

Barry Goldwater must be rolling over in his grave right now over the things people are doing and saying in the name of conservatives.

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Mike Ford 3 years, 8 months ago

snodgrass, romanticism is not history nor is it fact. I know Mohawks having been to St. Regis-Akwesasne, Kanwake, Grand River, and Kanestake, on both sides of the border in my travels. If I had a dime for every battle over a native princess, I'd be rich. Notajayhawk, keep the bullying tone of not knowing history to attack those who know history... in a dumbed down environment... it works well for you? maybe you're the smartest simpleton at a tea party gathering. The first amendment is the first amendment whether it's used by bigots to attack gay people or used by lunatics to protest dead soldiers. The first amendment is not for one side to deny another. Somewhere in the process of this discussion is dialogue which will probably never happen when one political party has no diologue skills and winds people like some of the posters on here to get them to froth at the mouth, talk nonsense and act emotionally without thinking. Oh well.

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whatthehell 3 years, 8 months ago

I love the reference to Cordoba Victory Mosque, which started out as a Visigoth Christian temple, was conquered by Muslims, who were then conquered back by Christians and is currently Roman Catholic, if I am not mistaken. Both religions revere this temple of worship and I believe their intention in referencing Cordoba was meant to be more conciliatory than inflammatory. They have since changed the proposed name.

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whats_going_on 3 years, 8 months ago

well of COURSE the GOP said that. Would they ever not take a chance to nitpick? Noooot so much.

He stayed out of it for this reason, and then when he says SOMETHING, all he says is that they have a right to do it. If he had said ANYTHING else or nothing at all, he would have been criticized for that. So...its a lose lose.

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Snodgrass 3 years, 8 months ago

2002 is wrong on this one. Digging in Kennewick Washington was stopped because the locals said a skull was found. There are lots of American bone fragments at ground zero. Part of the jets body parts flew into the site where the Cordoba victory mosque is to be built. If it is disrespectful to dig where an ancient skull is found on the banks of the Columbia river in Kennewick, then it is disrespectful to build a Cordoba Victory Mosque where landing gear and vaporized American bodies landed.

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2002 3 years, 8 months ago

The GOP is wrong on this one. This is a religious freedom issue. I've been a republican for years and am seriously thinking about changing my affiliation to Independent because of this. I think that Obama is almost completely incompetent but he was correct to support freedom in this case. The most disgusting actions, however, are those wrapping themselves in the flag or "America" and then opposing the rights of other Americans to exercise their rights.

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Snodgrass 3 years, 8 months ago

tuschkahouma (anonymous) says… nice of you to refute facts.. maybe you should go make up stuff on a black board like another depthless blowhard, Glenn Beck. Facts really annoy loud opinionated factless people don't they? It must really hurt to go through life thiniking your right because you never use facts and attack those that do. The day where baseless smart aleck quips end is on the horizon? what wil you do? @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Here tuschkahouma, for your eyes only......

In 1527, the Spanish explorer Panfilo de Narva’ez left Spain for the Americas. In his fleet he had five ships and six hundred people in his company. The expedition met with many hardships. Several ships were destroyed by a West Indies, hurricane and a group of Indians killed a large number of the remaining members of the party. Afterward, when only a few members of the expedition were left, Cabeza de Vaca, the former treasurer of Narva’ez took up the leadership of the remaining members of the party with Estevanico being among them.

Estevanico was called an Arab Negro, a Muslim who came from Azamore on the Atlantic Coast of Morocco. He was among the first two persons to reach the west coast of Mexico in an exploring overland expedition from Florida to the Pacific Coast. It’s reported that Estevanico acted as a guide and it took them nine years to reach Mexico City where they told stories of their travels.

In 1538, Estevanico lead an expedition from Mexico with Friar Marco, in search of the fabled Seven Cities of Cibolia, in which time he discovered Arizona and New Mexico. He was the first member of a different race reported to have visited the North Mexican Pueblos. He was killed in the city of Cibolia, one of the Seven Cities of the Zuni Indians, which is now New Mexico. Friar Marco, while following Estevanico’s trail to Cibolia, learned of his murder from an Indian messenger.

In the 1550s Nassereddine, the Egyptian, settled near the Hudson River in the Catskills region of upstate New York. He was called Prince Nassereddine. He fell in love with a Native American princess named Lotwana, who married someone else of her choice and tribe. The report has it that he poisoned Lotwana on her wedding night by giving a gift with a poison snake inside. The warriors of the Mohawk tribe captured him and burned Nassereddine at the stake.

In Puerto Rico, found in the 1500 era ‘Fort of the Moors’ Arabic writings are found on one of the walls of the fort. Even in downtown old San Juan we found a restaurant storefront decorated in Arabic tiles, centuries old.

Reiterate.....

"The warriors of the Mohawk tribe captured him and burned Nassereddine at the stake."

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whatthehell 3 years, 8 months ago

This continues to be a ridiculous argument / discussion... as if the entire Muslim religion attacked us and was trying to build a monument to the attackers on the site of ground zero. It is not AT ground zero, it is two blocks away (conservatively), it cannot be seen unless you go looking for it, the project will bring new life to an otherwise struggling neighborhood... the whole argument against it is "on behalf " of the families of the 9/11 victims... as if they are going to be tortured emotionally because of a Muslim center in Manhattan... of which there are already several undersized prayer centers, and oh by the way... Muslim Americans died in the attacks as well, not that it really matters. I will say again that this has been made into a political issue by those that would pray on peoples emotions, such as the entire Fox News Network (and I use the term "news" loosely-Fox is much more a political entity than a news organization). This issue should not BE an issue on the national political scale... it should be a New York issue, to be decided in the planning and development departments within the city. If it is a good project and meets all the city requirements then it should be a "go". Be done with it. Can we please move on to real issues? I will also say again... If anyone is truly bothered by the idea of a new and improved Muslim community center in manhattan, they need to check themselves, speak with a Psychologist, Priest, Pastor or whatever and get over their hatred of all things Muslim. Period. Again.
Just in case anyone has doubts... I DO know two families that had members in the Towers, I am Anglo and Catholic. Move on.

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jimmyjms 3 years, 8 months ago

"Republican candidates around the country seized on President Barack Obama’s support for the right of Muslims to build a mosque near ground zero, assailing him as an elitist who is insensitive to the families of the Sept. 11 victims."

Every time you hear this argument, keep in mind that the GOP blocked the "9/11 Health and Compensation Act" twice this year, in May and July.

So let's get the R's argument straight: in order to be sensitive to 9/11 victims families, we need to trample on the Constitution, give the actual terrorists a PR talking point, and refuse to help the still-living first responders with the health problems caused by their heroic first responding.

Up is down, black is white.

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Mike Ford 3 years, 8 months ago

nice of you to refute facts.. maybe you should go make up stuff on a black board like another depthless blowhard, Glenn Beck. Facts really annoy loud opinionated factless people don't they? It must really hurt to go through life thiniking your right because you never use facts and attack those that do. The day where baseless smart aleck quips end is on the horizon? what wil you do?

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Mike Ford 3 years, 8 months ago

notajayhawk doesn't know the history of this country... why am I not surprised....

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Mike Ford 3 years, 8 months ago

guardian I don't really care for your take that Obama Pelosi will provide monies for it like there's some of democratic gestapo going on here. I just survived a theocratic gestapo that lasted eight years that many of you people who voted for that gestapo refuse to acknowledge their evil. It's funny that when someone who comes along and actually tries to use the US Constitution to protect peoples from the intolerant masses they're the ones being called fascists by the people who've actually supported fascists and still do with the denials of lasting impacts on the economy. Until you all can come to terms with a Democrat who does things and isn't afraid of polls to do the right thing, stop with this gestapo and fascist bs. Harry Truman wasn't afraid of polls when he signed an executive order integrating the US Military in 1948 and subsequently lost the Southern racist Democrats who became dixiecrats and later evangelical republicans and the parents of these horribly confused and embarrassing tea party people over the next five decades. Courage to stand in the face of you all and do what he has done is enough to get my vote again. Remember being held hostage by Bush/Cheney for eight years? I do... they had no feasible ideas and these clowns playing on anger and fear have no plausable ideas.... just fear.... and fear is no substitution for substance... which something few if any remaining republicans have... so tell me again why the drunk driving republicans who spent eight years wrecking this country deserve to drive again and wreck the country more? any answers?...... I didn't think so....

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notajayhawk 3 years, 8 months ago

"Most of the arguments against the building of the Muslim-sponsored community center are not rooted in the facts of the situation."

First of all, while there have been several stories related to whether the community center should be opened, this particular story is about whether the president's remarks were insensitive. And while it was probably inadvertent, you have just given a perfect example of what they're talking about.

Of course the emotional reaction isn't rooted in the facts. Emotions are not based on fact. But the president, and you, apparently, think they should be. You think people's emotions are caused by Republican fear-mongering? Do you know anyone that died that day, voevoda? I do. Two people from my high school died as a result of that attack, one a NYC firefighter, one had just boarded a plane in Boston on her way to California for a vacation. I grew up just outside the City, I watched the towers go up, they were an anchor, a familiar sight on the already-impressive skyline when flying to the East Coast for a visit. Watching something that monumental - literally - collapse in seconds after the years it took to build, knowing that thousands of New Yorkers died, learning later that I knew some of them - let me assure you, voevoda, I don't need anyone's fear-mongering to have an emotional response.

There is no solution to this problem that would not involve emotion. Some issues are just that way. I mentioned eminent domain earlier in this thread - how does one have a rational, logical discussion over a city taking property from a homeowner to turn over to a developer and expand the tax base, without also considering the feelings of a family that is being displaced from a home, a home their forefathers may have lived in for generations? How does one rationally decide whether the city can without also considering whether they should?

And that is exactly what we're talking about here. From the story: "Recalling the emotion of that deadly day, Republicans said that while they respect religious freedom, the president’s position was cold and academic, lacking compassion and empathy for the victims’ families." And that is absolutely true. The president said in his remarks "So I understand the emotions that this issue engenders." He doesn't understand squat. He paid lip service to those who had died and their families, while discussing in cold, rational terms whether the developers had the right to build. If you read his comments, it appears he's much more concerned about offending Muslims than offending those who lost loved ones that day. What would it have cost him to at least acknowledge what the people who object were objecting to?

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voevoda 3 years, 8 months ago

Most of the arguments against the building of the Muslim-sponsored community center are not rooted in the facts of the situation. Some opponents root their arguments in prejudice ("all Muslims are anti-American terrorists"); others in emotion ("imagine how survivors of 9/11 feel") that Republican operatives spurred through crass fear-mongering; and some (fewer) others in lack of understanding about the Muslim community in question ("didn't their imam actually applaud terrorism"). It is only with the third group that there is any hope of rational discussion; there is no arguing with illogic. For that third group, I recommend this new Fact Check article from a thoroughly mainstream source:

http://us.mg204.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.partner=sbc&.gx=1&.rand=1skpico2on6h4

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Mike Ford 3 years, 8 months ago

II got one for you... until the invasion of the Dutch between 1609 and 1660.. Long Island was the home of the Corchaug, Canarsee, Esopus. Housatonic. Hackensack, Haverstraw, Massapequa, Montauk, Manhasset, Merrick, Matinecock, Nissequog, Nyack, Poosapatuck, Patchogue, Ramapaugh, Raritan, Rankokas, Rockaway, Shinnecock, Seakonke, Siwinoy, Seatauket, Tappan, and Wappinger tribes. In 2010, only the Poosapatuck, Montauk, and Shinnecock peoples remain, and after 250 years of waiting the Shinnecock tribe, whose land was stolen in 1859 to create the Long Island Railway and the Hamptons, is going to get federal recognition from the US Government this year. I currently work with a tribe of Munsee people who originally called Long Island their home until the Dutch arrived and murdered their neighbors, the Raritans and Wappingers. These Munsee people were driven to Franklin County, KS, by American Expansion between 1660 and 1859. It is really their land this mosque is being built on. There's nothing wrong with American Amnesia when it comes to history right? Just be misinformed and be mad about next to nothing especially when one of the complicit political parties does nothing for policy or platform and uses this emotive bs to get votes. No disrespect to 9/11 but thousands of tribal people were killed in their loss of lands on Long Island. Mohawk Iron workers built the Twin Towers. Lastly the law is the law.... The First Amendment allows free practice of religion... if Islamic faith is offensive to some people here.. how do you think people like the Lakota feel about having a Christian Church on Wounded Knee where American soldiers from the seventh cavalry opened fire on old people, women, and children with cannons and carbines shooting people in the back and throwing them into mass graves on December 29, 1890? no one stops christian churches from destroying or supplanting indigenous practices and religions around the continent and the world do they? Why do dumb politicians open these cans of worms without realizing the historical consequences just to win votes from uneducated voters? something about America I guess.....

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mr_right_wing 3 years, 8 months ago

Maybe we could also build a monument right on ground zero to the men who gave their lives honorbly serving allah; against this great satan nation and us, the infidels of this country. The only other thing that would make it better is if said monument was paid for 100% by our tax dollars!

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parrothead8 3 years, 8 months ago

“He is thinking like a lawyer and not like an American, making declarations without America’s best interest in mind,” said Andrew Harris, a Republican running for Congress in Maryland.

Funny. Usually the GOP accuses the Dems of thinking with their hearts instead of their heads. Now they're accusing them of doing the opposite.

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IndusRiver 3 years, 8 months ago

Who are you calling Republican, jafs?

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Flap Doodle 3 years, 8 months ago

Wonder how much it would cost to build a mosque next door to Dear Leader's mob-financed Chicago mansion?

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jafs 3 years, 8 months ago

This criticism is interesting.

Sensitivity doesn't seem to have been a major value of the GOP until just now.

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IndusRiver 3 years, 8 months ago

And thank you to IndusRiver, for so aptly demonstrating why trying to explain insensitivity to people like him is like trying to teach a pig to sing.

Really? Well I'm here now because I became diametrically opposed to dropping liquid fire on naked children fleeing in Vietnam. Today, I'm diametrically opposed to American helicopters hovering over huddled citizens on the ground while the gunnery guys open fire.

I wouldn't choose lethal injection for you and your types. I would choose firing squad.

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Agnostick 3 years, 8 months ago


"The one thing that annoyed me and still does to this day are the hawkers of 9/11 porn, the guys who sell the picture books of 9/11 and the aftermath to tourists. This to me is the real perversion of the area. A buck being made off this tragedy and people wanting to flip through this book, as if it was any other tourist site, and then go through the things they purchased at Century 21 and J&R.

"Anyone who thinks it is solemn down here has never been. It is more like a circus, with tourists and their cameras and their purchases. I guess they come to honor those who died, but it doesn's seem that way. There is a Catholic Church and a Christian (Episcopal?); how many people are stopping into them to prayer for the dead? I'm sure it is a small fraction of those who go to Century 21 and J&R."


Full article here:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/08/the-hawkers-of-911-porn.html#more

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estespark 3 years, 8 months ago

The opposition should get better organized and purchase the property and the rights to development.

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whatthehell 3 years, 8 months ago

Last I checked, the attack on the Towers was carried out by Al Quaida, not the Muslim religion. The neighborhood where this community center is planned is full of empty space and there are already mosques in the area that would be combined here. You cannot see this building from ground zero and must go out of the way to find it. This whole discussion of appropriateness is religious bigotry, profiling, illegal and just plain wrong. If a religious center in Manhattan offends the sensibilities of the families of the victims then they need to check themselves and move on past the hatred of anything or anyone that was actually involved in the attacks. Period.

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IndusRiver 3 years, 8 months ago

Build it just to piss 'em off.

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Flap Doodle 3 years, 8 months ago

“How badly did Barack Obama fumble the mosque controversy last weekend? No fewer than three media columnists now want Obama rescued by George W. Bush. Byron York reports on the desperate pleas: “It’s time for W. to weigh in,” writes the New York Times’ Maureen Dowd. Bush, Dowd explains, understands that “you can’t have an effective war against the terrorists if it is a war on Islam.” Dowd finds it “odd” that Obama seems less sure on that matter. But to set things back on the right course, she says, “W. needs to get his bullhorn back out” — a reference to Bush’s famous “the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!” speech at Ground Zero on September 14, 2001. Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson is also looking for an assist from Bush. “I…would love to hear from former President Bush on this issue,” Robinson wrote Tuesday in a Post chat session. “He held Ramadan iftar dinners in the White House as part of a much broader effort to show that our fight against the al-Qaeda murderers who attacked us on 9/11 was not a crusade against Islam. He was absolutely right on this point, and it would be helpful to hear his views.” And Peter Beinart, a former editor of the New Republic, is also feeling some nostalgia for the former president. “Words I never thought I’d write: I pine for George W. Bush,” Beinart wrote Tuesday in The Daily Beast. “Whatever his flaws, the man respected religion, all religion.” Beinart longs for the days when Bush “used to say that the ‘war on terror’ was a struggle on behalf of Muslims, decent folks who wanted nothing more than to live free like you and me…” For the moment, with Obama failing to live up to expectations, Bush-bashing is over…” http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/18/to-save-obama-left-cries-out-for-george-w-bush/

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Cait McKnelly 3 years, 8 months ago

Change the headline please: "The GOP's stand on mosque insensitive." 1. It's not a mosque. But Sean Hannity says it is so it must be. 2. It's not at Ground Zero but Glen Beck says it is so it must be. I guess if it waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck and acts like a duck it must be a...zebra! yeah, that's it. 3. The tinfoil hats say they want to smear the building in the face of America because they refused the offer of free land to build on if they would move. Never mind that it's a community center being asked to move miles from the community it's being built to serve. 4. Why are all of these right wingnuts not screaming about the real mosque that's already there across the street from Ground Zero? Nah it all comes down to one thing; nobody wants sand n****rs and towelheads in their backyard. Welcome to the GOP in an election year. Now pardon me while I go throw up and lay down.

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Jimo 3 years, 8 months ago

Anything to avoid talking about all that boring important stuff like war and taxes, problems for which today's GOP has no solutions to offer.

TPers: why do you keep being surprised when you vote for candidates pushing "wedge issues" (abortion, gays, Muslims, flag burning) who then, learning well what really motivates you, turn around to spend money and bail out big banks?

Based on past performance - and their complete lack of detailed proposals with math that can be verified - why would anyone believe that the GOP has finally had a change of heart?

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rockchalk1977 3 years, 8 months ago

I'm surprised Obama had time to comment between vacations.

Governing against the will of the people... is the new White House motto. However, I guess he did sit in Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years listening to him spew his hatred of America. Hope he changes yes he can.

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Agnostick 3 years, 8 months ago

Are the folks that play "Bible Buffet" the same ones that play "Constitution Cafeteria?"

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MyName 3 years, 8 months ago

Insensitive to what? These imaginary people who are offended that the Executive is actually trying to enforce the laws without favoring any one group over another?

And considering how many legislators and presidents in this country have been lawyers, it's like the lawyers are making fun of lawyers for sounding like what they are! This just doesn't make sense...

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Defender 3 years, 8 months ago

Where are all the patriots that say 'I disagree with what you say, but I'll fight for your right to say it'?

I don't like it, not one single bit. But we cannot tear down our constitution for emotions sake. Otherwise, it is useless to us, and the terrorists will have won.

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Ricky_Vaughn 3 years, 8 months ago

I love that the GOP is complaining! Aren't they the ones who scream about how we should be living by the Constitution? Religious freedom is clearly outlined in the Constitution.

Where's the Tea Bagger opinion on this one? My guess is that they only support the Constitution when it happens to be aligned with what they already believe.

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autie 3 years, 8 months ago

Good thing Shewmon isn't fighting the war. He doesn't even know who the enemy is. Maybe the Islamic folks need to hire Shirley Phelps Roper for a consult.

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feeble 3 years, 8 months ago

“I mean, it seems to me those are issues related to local zoning laws and so forth, and that’s a decision that they’re going to have to make, but I don’t see the federal government having any role in that,” Kratovil said.

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Too bad the GOP-led 2000 congress passed the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act (RLUIPA), which essentiall removes all zoning laws related to Church construction.

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geekin_topekan 3 years, 8 months ago

"May your very own personalized and unique god bless you abundantly. " +++ I like that! Millions of alcoholics who seek recovery have struggled to find that very idea. May I use it?

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rhd99 3 years, 8 months ago

Scott, you don't get it, do you? DEMS used political correctness to cancel out the principles of the Constitution. Look at THEIR federal court judges. They use the Constitution as a punch line for their own stinken agendas.

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Tom Shewmon 3 years, 8 months ago

It doesn't matter really what me or anyone else thinks or says regarding Obama's comments about the mosque debacle. He screwed up--his own people told him so. Obama does not speak unless spoken to (by Axelrod/Emanual/Jarrett).

May your very own personalized and unique god bless you abundantly.

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geekin_topekan 3 years, 8 months ago

Once again the GOP comes out swinging on a position based entirely on speculation and emotion.

The hysteria continues, or as one hysterical rightwinger cried on TV, "I w-want my American baaaack!".

How can Repubs be trusted when they are so prone to emotion and addicted to each other's hysterics?

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Liberty_One 3 years, 8 months ago

“He is thinking like a lawyer and not like an American, making declarations without America’s best interest in mind,”

--Andrew Harris, a Republican running for Congress in Maryland

I sincerely hope this guy does not win his election.

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Agnostick 3 years, 8 months ago

If the president said something nice about Jews, those that oppose him would say he's being insensitive to Christians.

If the president said something nice about Christians, those that oppose him would say he's being insensitive to Jews.

If the president said something nice about women, those that oppose him would say he's being insensitive to men.

If the president said something nice about men, those that oppose him would say he's being insensitive to women.

If the president said something nice about blacks, those that oppose him would say he's being insensitive to whites.

If the president said something nice about whites, those that oppose him would say he's being insensitive to blacks.

If the president said something nice about heterosexuals, those that oppose him would say he's being insensitive to gays and/or lesbians.

If the president said something nice about gays and/or lesbians, those that oppose him would say he's being insensitive to heterosexuals.

If the president said something nice about Bert, those that oppose him would say he's being insensitive to Ernie.

If the president said something nice about the Ernie, those that oppose him would say he's being insensitive to Bert.

If the president said something nice about the Autobots, those that oppose him would say he's being insensitive to Decepticons.

If the president said something nice about the Decepticons, those that oppose him would say he's being insensitive to Autobots...

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rhd99 3 years, 8 months ago

Where the DEMS are concerned, it's all summed up in 2 words: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

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scott3460 3 years, 8 months ago

Our President's quote:

Mulims ""have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country. That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances."

Will one of the wingers please explain the insensitivity of these remarks.

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Tom Shewmon 3 years, 8 months ago

I will say this. The left attempts to be sharp about castigating others for their alleged racial exclusionary mindset, when in reality the left constantly divides, segregates and pigeonholes all peoples by ethnicity, religion or sexual preference. It's all the left does: categorize, while screaming that the right are a bunch of closed-minded bigots. Wow!

May the God of your personal preference bless you.

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Flap Doodle 3 years, 8 months ago

Nobody expects the Pelosi Inquisition! “House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Tuesday said she supports an investigation into groups opposing the building of a mosque near ground zero in New York. Pelosi told San Francisco’s KCBS radio that “there is no question there is a concerted effort to make this a political issue by some.” “I join those who have called for looking into how is this opposition to the mosque being funded,” she said. “How is this being ginned up?” Republicans have signaled that they will try to turn the mosque into a campaign issue, and nearly all of the leading national Republicans have weighed in against the mosque's construction. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid broke with President Barack Obama recently in voicing opposition to the mosque, but Pelosi indicated support for the cultural center..." Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41204.html#ixzz0wy0PjIJh

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notajayhawk 3 years, 8 months ago

"Obama’s stand on mosque insensitive, GOP says"

Uh huh. Except it appears it's not just the Republicans who think that. Obama's disapproval ratings took another rise, to the highest it's been, in Gallup's three-day tracking poll that started after the pres made his comments. If the 51% that disapprove of the president are all Republicans, you Democrats are scr*wed anyway.

And, incidentally, who would expect sensitivity to the memory of ground zero coming from the same White House that buzzed the Statue of Liberty with Air Force One for a photo op?

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Bob_Keeshan 3 years, 8 months ago

A boilerplate attack? "He is thinking like a lawyer and not like an American"

That's weird, because during nomination hearings for Supreme Court justices the GOP seems fixated on the attack "we are a nation of laws."

Golly, which one is it? Oh yeah, whichever one gives the GOP power so they can rape and pillage the rest of us like they did for the first 6 years of this decade.

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BigAl 3 years, 8 months ago

Some of you far-right wingers need to make up your mind. Either President Obama supports the Constitution of the United States or he doesn't. Pick one.

But then again, quite a few of you only support the Constitution when it is convenient for you.... politically.

Have a wonderful day.

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Snodgrass 3 years, 8 months ago

If the Arabic named one is having problems with simple issues like coherent messages to the American people, think about the incoherent Optics the leader of Democrats has with the rest of the world? China? Iran? Russia?

I don't think the Democrats even understand what their Optics are among the leaders of the rest of the world.

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seriouscat 3 years, 8 months ago

Obama's stance on the issue ie. respecting the Consitution of the United States and freedom of religion, coupled with an apprehension about the wisdom and timing of the mosque, pretty much echos the sentiments of the majority. Any GOP people who try to eke out any more political advantage from this issue are clearly 'out of touch'.

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reverber 3 years, 8 months ago

It's a good thing the Liberals have CNN firmly in pocket, isn't it? Those members of the GOP who invoke the First Amendment to protect their hateful fear-mongering with regards to the building of this cultural center should look up the meaning of the word "irony."

The proposed cultural center is not within the bounds of ground zero, and so does not fall under the jurisdiction of the Port Authority, who are the guilty party in holding up the approval of the site of the Orthodox church (which is on ground zero property.) Besides, last I heard, the church was still raising funds to begin construction.

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TrooGrit 3 years, 8 months ago

Must be time for another mid-east apology tour! Let's see whose butt he can kiss now!

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Snodgrass 3 years, 8 months ago

I'm with the "Clinton New Network" on this one. "Incoherent" is a good descriptive of the Democrats, which by the way, have been in charge of everything in the country for years now.

"Critics say Obama's message becoming 'incoherent' ... President Obama is under fire for what some are calling mixed messages on plans to build an Islamic center near ground zero. ... Some observers say Obama's comments show messaging problems for president ... "The danger here is an incoherent presidency," said David Morey, vice chairman of the Core Strategy Group, who provided communications advice to Obama's 2008 campaign. "Simpler is better, and rising above these issues and leading by controlling the dialogue is what the presidency is all about. So I think that's the job they have to do more effectively as they have in the past [in the campaign]." ... "There is no question they are having messaging problems at the White House," Morey said. "They've lost control of the dialogue, and they've gotten pulled down by the extremes on the left and right. They've just not had a coherent set of themes." – CNN

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John Kyle 3 years, 8 months ago

So this is the GOP's platform for 2010? What about jobs and the economy?

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Amy Heeter 3 years, 8 months ago

Lately I am less worried about Islamic terrorists and more worried about the GOP.

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grammaddy 3 years, 8 months ago

Of course the GOP would say that. Islam has been their centerpiece for fear-mongering in this country since 9/11 happened. If everyone would try to learn something about Islam, it would take away the fear factor and what would they be left with.Never mind "religious freedom"or the fact that a few Muslims died that horrible day. It's all about keeping us all afraid.Or that the spot in question is already a Mosque and that the building was damaged when the towers fell and they just want to tear it down and build a new one.Could the GOP make a bigger stink about nothing?

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Snodgrass 3 years, 8 months ago

Democrats really are concerned about religous freedom for the Islamics. Religion for the Democrats is an important issue. They will go to the alter to save the religious Islamics.

Democrats don't even like it when buildings are built on Indigenous peoples burial grounds either. I've seen entire job sites shut down when an arrowhead is found.

The Arabic named one is deadset on becoming the defender of the Islamics and their quest to build a Cordoba style mosque by the Cemetary at ground zero. The Islamics, out of pure and total respect for the thousands of Americans incinerated by terrorists on 9-11, want to express their love and understanding to the surrvivors.

May Allah bless Barack Hussein Obama

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