Archive for Tuesday, August 10, 2010

Agency, Lawrence bars prepare to fight fake IDs

The Fake ID 101 Campaign is back and prepping bar owners to spot fake IDs students may try to use to get into bars.

August 10, 2010


White posters are going up all over Lawrence businesses this week that warn minors about the consequences of using fake IDs to try to get into bars.

“It’s illegal, it’s unhealthy and it’s unsafe for you, and this is one of the campaigns to let them know that if they go out and get a fake ID to enter a bar, that they’ll get in trouble,” said Jen Brinkerhoff, director of prevention for DCCCA.

The DCCCA is a Lawrence agency that provides education, prevention and treatment services for residents and families suffering from alcohol addiction.

For the second semester in a row, DCCCA is leading a campaign to keep minors out of area bars. “Fake ID 101” was initiated earlier this year with the help of several area agencies, including The New Tradition Coalition of Lawrence, The Kansas Traffic Safety Resource Office, Alcoholic Beverage Control, KU Public Safety Office, Lawrence police and the Douglas County Sheriff’s Department.

A $25,000 grant funds education and enforcement efforts that are designed to curb the use of fake IDs. Hundreds of posters are being distributed in Lawrence and surrounding communities. The posters detail what a fake ID is and the consequences of using one: a $2,500 fine and/or up to one year in jail.

In the spring, the posters were primarily put up in restaurants and bars, but now they’re also going in churches, grocery stores, theaters and more.

“Anywhere that this age group — under 21 — might be going to see this message,” Brinkerhoff said.

The campaign provides funds for additional law enforcement efforts as well. In February, Lawrence police used grant funds to conduct four separate fake ID sting operations at 94 drinking establishments. The effort yielded 37 citations for 48 violations, according to Brinkerhoff.

The Wheel owner Rob Farha said he appreciates the campaign.

“As much education as possible is great,” he said.

Farha said allowing underage customers isn’t good business.

“A liquor license is a privilege; they (ABC) don’t have to give us one, so these kids got to understand the first line of defense is right at the front door,” Farha said.

Employees at The Wheel will get a refresher course this week on spotting fake IDs. Farha said they’ll learn to check birthdays and expiration dates, while also closely looking at eye color, hair color and more. He said it’s not always easy spotting the fakes.

“We do our best; technology is unbelievable out there, but we do the best we can do,” he said.

Brinkerhoff said an important part of Fake ID 101 is educating minors so they won’t even approach establishments where they’re not allowed, easing the burden on workers checking IDs.

“We want to educate students, especially when they’re coming in as freshmen, and say, ‘hey, we are a college town and we have a lot of great things, but we do not tolerate underage drinking,’” Brinkerhoff said.

A free informational meeting will be held for those who work in businesses that have an alcohol license. ABC, Lawrence police and DCCCA will host the meeting to educate workers on laws that involve alcohol sales. It will take place at the Lawrence Arts Center, 940 N.H., from 1 p.m. to 3 p.m. Aug. 29.


emaw 7 years, 4 months ago

OK so they won't be able to go drink in the bars where a bartender has the ability to cut them off if they are too drunk.....but they can go to a house party and drink themselves stupid. This won't do anything to deter underage drinking,...probably will do more harm than good.

mr_right_wing 7 years, 4 months ago

Well....high school kids can go to parties and get drunk too. Maybe we need to lower the drining age to when you get your drivers permit.

TheOriginalCA 7 years, 4 months ago

".....,...probably will do more harm than good....."

Spoken like a true Aggieville apologizer.

Vinny1 7 years, 4 months ago

They always say this stuff. All it means is don't go to the hawk for a week or two as there will be no one there.

If you're underage and going to the bars the first week or two of school you're a moron anyway. By September, its back to a free for all.

amrose42683 7 years, 4 months ago

At least someone is TRYING to do something about the underage drinking in this town. It always appears that if an agency or agencies even attempt to help prevent underage drinking, they're under scrutiny by people saying it's a waste of time and it's not going to work. Yet, I'm sure if nobody tried to do anything about it all then these same agencies would be under scrutiny for not doing anything.

kansasredlegs 7 years, 4 months ago

Underage Drinking: Adult at 18, but can't legally consume alcohol until 21. I would consider such stupidity as "Overage Thinking." The real problem here is government making everything taboo. If 18 to drink was brought back, I think people would be pleasantly surprised. Kind of like the speed limit being raised from snail speed 55 mph to 70 mph... The sky didn't fall and the State didn't have to order thousands of body bags as insurance companies predicted. One day common sense will prevail, but I won't be holding my breath.

Waste of Money: Sure it is, all these feel good programs that cost real "tax" dollars are a waste of money. Just makes one believe they are doing something worthwhile while running in the sand. State government wouldn't even care if it wasn't for the loss of federal highway tax dollars.

alm77 7 years, 4 months ago

I would think 19 would be better. We don't want high schoolers supplying their friends, but I do agree with you that it would be a good thing to simply lower the legal age.

Hoots 7 years, 4 months ago

I was in High School when the law went into effect. Kids stopped socializing with 3.2 beer and changed to the hard stuff. This law has been a disaster.

Vinny1 7 years, 4 months ago

amrose -

You're right, they are trying. But the opposite side is correct in that it is a complete waste of money as well.

The government just needs to admit they are wrong and drop it back down to 18.

gccs14r 7 years, 4 months ago

“It’s illegal, it’s unhealthy and it’s unsafe for you,..."

One of the three assertions is correct, anyway. There is nothing wrong with an 18-year-old having an alcoholic beverage, but making it a forbidden fruit practically assures that underage drinkers will get pounded if it's available. They can't keep a bottle of wine or spirits around for the occasional after-dinner drink, lest they get caught with it, so if they end up with a bottle, they feel compelled to finish it.

Brandon Graham 7 years, 4 months ago

I've long thought it was incredibly sad that a grown adult in this country can kill and be killed on behalf of his or her nation but cannot have a beer at the bar with their friends while having an adult conversation.

I do understand the other side of the argument and the horrific pain drunk driving has caused so many families, but I think there are reasonable solutions to some of that activity that affects so many more than under 21 adults.

If every 18 year old had to take a college level course for a semester, issued by the state, and had to pay for it in order to have a license to consume alcohol in in general and specifically in public, I think we might be ahead in so many ways. The individual would be very educated about all the harmful affects of overconsumption, see the very real damage that can be caused operating motor vehicles, and be educated about the health risks of long term over indulgence. If you educate young adults, have adult conversations with them, and treat them fairly, I'm still of the opinion that it gets through to them.

Jonathan Fox 7 years, 4 months ago

All we have to do is look at Europe. Over there you can buy alcohol when you're old enough to buy it yourself (or around 16). They have substantially lower drunk driver and alcohol poisoning incidence because they grow up on the stuff with the supervision of their parents. They learn with experience what happens. Plus, it takes away the rebelious nature of consuming alcohol.

I firmly believe that lowering the drinking age would lead to way fewer problems.

Cynthia Schott 7 years, 4 months ago

It's not like the good old days before DL's with photos, etc. I would imagine that there are more arrests now.

gccs14r 7 years, 4 months ago

The other alternative is to make the minimum age of armed forces enlistment, voting, driving, or anything else considered to be only for adults 21 years old.

voevoda 7 years, 4 months ago

If fake IDs are so easy to get and hard to spot, why would anyone think that requiring a photo ID would deter election fraud?

Robert Rauktis 7 years, 4 months ago

Get serious about enforcing drunk driving laws and no tolerance for any offense. Drop the legal limit for any blood alcohol. Otherwise if they want to blow their health in the myriad of ways alcohol facilitates...they will stay ahead of the law and it's prohibition's lesson need to be relearned.

Come to think of it, that might apply to any age.

But if they want to stumble home and puke in the front room or on their date...God bless 'em.

Rickyonealku 7 years, 4 months ago

I am SSSSSSOOOOOOOOO glad my daughter is a SENIOR age 23 at KU...and don't have to be concerned with this issue.

Kontum1972 7 years, 4 months ago

remember the frat house that got shut down ....they were making fake ID's and selling them...LoL..where are those boys now?


Mex burrito king and taco bell....? sounds like racial profiling too me....u left out the sushi bar on 23rd st across from the mexican restaurant...i have seen some really drunk people come out of that place ....

flyin_squirrel 7 years, 4 months ago

Oread Cave is where all the underage drinkers hang out now. They actually have a light switch that they can turn on when the police show up, and down in the cave a warning light goes off. Funny the protection money buys...

whatadrag 7 years, 4 months ago

flyin's a bluffer

I'm a senior at KU and going to the hawk makes me feel out of place due to absurd amount of freshmen that frequent the establishment.

Janet Lowther 7 years, 4 months ago

Fake IDs weren't near as big a deal back when 18 year-olds could drink beer legally,

If a person is old enough to sign up for military service without parental permission, and independently undertake any other contract, we should be able to expect them to use alcohol responsibly.

Hmmm. . . Seems like the alcohol (and drug) education I got in high school consisted of one word: "Don't." Of course that was back in the '70s.

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