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Kobach, Biggs nominated as Secretary of State candidates

Kris Kobach claims victory in the Republican primary for Kansas Secretary of State in Topeka in this file photo. Kobach said he wants to see an end to birthright citizenship.

Kris Kobach claims victory in the Republican primary for Kansas Secretary of State in Topeka in this file photo. Kobach said he wants to see an end to birthright citizenship.

August 3, 2010, 7:36 p.m. Updated August 3, 2010, 10:59 p.m.


Kansas Secretary of State candidate Kris Kobach greets supporters at an election watch party Tuesday.

Kansas Secretary of State candidate Kris Kobach greets supporters at an election watch party Tuesday.

— Kris Kobach on Tuesday rode a national furor over illegal immigration to victory in the Republican Party primary for secretary of state. He will face incumbent Secretary of State Chris Biggs, who fended off a challenge in the Democratic primary.

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Kobach, who helped write the controversial Arizona law that has sparked numerous protests, defeated J.R. Claeys, a Salina consultant, and longtime Shawnee County Election Commissioner Elizabeth “Libby” Ensley, who had the backing of many establishment Republican politicians.

In late returns Kobach had both statewide and in Douglas County more than half of the GOP vote, while Ensley and Claeys split the rest.

Kobach, a constitutional law professor and former chairman of the Kansas Republican Party, has gained notoriety for championing anti illegal immigration laws and lawsuits in various states.

He says if elected, he will work 40 to 50 hours a week as secretary of state, and then on his own time continue legal battles over immigration.

He said he will push for laws that would require Kansans to show a photo ID before being allowed to vote, and proving U.S. citizenship before registering to vote. He said both proposals are needed to stop election fraud, which he described as a big problem in Kansas.

“Ultimately, this is about election fraud,” he said.“Regardless of what your political point of view is ... people want security and assurance that the election result was a valid result, and that nobody stole the election.”

In the Democratic primary, Biggs was defeating state Sen. Chris Steineger of Kansas City, 60 percent to 40 percent statewide and in Douglas County.

"My entire professional career has been dedicated to public service, and as Secretary of State, I am committed to protecting consumers, ensuring fair, open, and secure elections, and improving the efficiency and accessibility of the office,” Biggs said.

He said he looked forward to debating the “issues pertinent to the office.” Biggs has said that while voter fraud has occurred in isolated instances, it is not a widespread problem in Kansas.

Biggs was appointed secretary of state in March by Gov. Mark Parkinson to replace Ron Thornburgh, a Republican who left to take a job in the private sector.

Steineger, a legislator for the past 13 years, jumped into the race touting his independent streak. But several Democratic leaders said he was more like a loose cannon, supporting anti-tax groups such as Americans for Prosperity, and that he was weakened politically by a recent $5,000 fine for a campaign finance violation.

Prior to his appointment, Biggs had served as Kansas securities commissioner for seven years and before that was Geary County prosecutor.

Also on the Nov. 2 ballot will be Libertarian Phillip Horatio Lucas and the Reform Party’s Derek Langseth.

10:50 p.m. update

Chris Biggs owns 40,693 total votes as of 10:50 p.m., still good for 60 percent.

Kris Kobach now has 132,669 votes, which is 53 percent.

10:30 p.m. update

Chris Biggs (D) has been nominated as candidate for Secretary of State. He was announced the winner over Chris Steineger with 60 percent of votes and 2,113 of 3,316 precincts reporting as of 10:30 p.m.

10:17 p.m. update

Kris Kobach, GOP, has been nominated as the Secretary of State candidate with 54 percent of the vote and 1,998 of 3,316 precincts reporting. His Democratic opponent has yet to be determined, however Chris Biggs leads Chris Steineger, 37,365-25,257, which is 60 percent of votes.

10:02 p.m. update

Biggs owns 62 percent of votes over Steineger with 1,461 of 3,316 of precincts reporting.

Kobach maintains 49 percent of votes over her competitors.

9:49 p.m. update

Biggs holds 28,117 votes over Steineger's 17,436 as of 9:50 p.m. with 1,259 of 3,316 precincts reporting.

Kobach has 76,046 votes for 49 percent of the vote. Ensley has 44,159 votes and Claeys 35,456.

9:27 p.m. update

Biggs has 23,388 votes, good for 61 percent over Steineger's 14,943.

Kobach has 65,595 votes for 51 percent over Ensley's 35,966 (28%) and Claeys' 27,070 (21%).

9:09 p.m. update

Biggs (16,490) maintains lead over Steineger (10,684) with 61 percent of votes with 489 of 3,316 precincts reporting.

Kobach (46,502) continues to lead Republicans with 52 percent of votes. Ensley (30,413) has 29 percent and Claeys (18,905) 19 percent.

8:56 p.m. update

Biggs increases lead on Steineger with 62 percent of the vote and 415 of 3,316 precincts reporting.

8:37 p.m. update

Biggs continues to lead Steineger, 8,543-5,378, with 183 of 3,316 precincts. That's good for 61 percent of the vote.

Kobach has 24,750 votes, or 52 percent of the vote, leading Ensley (15,560) and Claeys (7,320).

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8:25 p.m. update

Biggs holds 57 percent of the vote with 126 of 3,316 precincts reporting. He leads Steineger 5,553-4,151.

8:18 p.m. update

Biggs increases lead on Steineger, 4,581-3,659.

Kris Kobach continues to lead Ensley and Claeys with 18,028 votes. Ensley has 10,692 and Claeys 3,616 .

8:11 p.m. update

Biggs maintains his lead over Steineger, 4,475-3,606.

7:34 p.m. update

Early numbers show Chris Biggs with a lead on Chris Steineger. Biggs currently has 69.4 percent of the vote.

Kris Kobach is leading candidates Elizabeth Ensley and J.R. Claeys. Kobach has 49.2 percent to Ensley's 42.5 percent and Claeys' 8.4 percent.


appleaday 7 years, 10 months ago

What is the evidence that voter fraud is a "big problem" in Kansas?

verity 7 years, 10 months ago

The fact that there are any Democratic votes at all is enough evidence.

olddognewtrix 7 years, 10 months ago

Kobach is Kansas's newest demagogue, rivaling the fanaticismof Vern Miller of the past

rbwaa 7 years, 10 months ago

do you think kobach will also jump out of car trunks?

Scott Tichenor 7 years, 10 months ago

Kansans will have an interesting choice. Biggs - a career public servant with an impeccable resume and reputation--no on-the-job training needed, feet on the ground in reality about voter fraud. Or they can go down the path of someone where controversy and scandals follow, someone preoccupied with an issue that is also lining his pockets with out-of-state money in Kobach. We already have enough money flowing into the coffers of our governor-to-be Brownback from Texas. You'd think Kansans would want some independence, but the truth is, most of the state simply walks in and fills in the oval next to "R."

What's the matter with Kansas? Kris Kobach might be the next answer.

yankeevet 7 years, 10 months ago

I agree; just another freeloader living off taxpayer money...........and there are so many of them.............

MyName 7 years, 10 months ago

As opposed to someone living off of campaign donor and worthless think tank money, who can't even keep that straight?

Kobach is a dud who is almost as bad as Phill Kline was.

myvotecounts 7 years, 10 months ago

Real disappointed that Republicans picked a politician over the one person most qualified to do the job. I'm going to have to cross over and go with Biggs now.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 10 months ago

"He says if elected, he will work 40 to 50 hours a week as secretary of state, and then on his own time continue legal battles over immigration."

Is he going to punch a clock? How does he decide to whether to work 40 hours in one given week rather than 50? At $300 an hour, the difference between the two is $3000. That's a pretty big incentive to only work 40 as Sec. of State, although I think we'd all be better off if he never even shows up at that office.

Phillbert 7 years, 10 months ago

Kansans have been down this road before with Phill Kline, who seemed to be interested in doing everything but the job he was elected to do. Hopefully Biggs can win this one.

BigAl 7 years, 10 months ago

Considering all the "voter fraud" that Kobach talks about, I am surprised that he got elected.

Has there even been one documented case of voter fraud in Kansas?

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 10 months ago

It would take an easily spotted organized effort to significantly affect any election, so there is no good, compelling reason for anyone to vote fraudulently. It just doesn't happen.

just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 7 years, 10 months ago

There is a strong incentive for aliens to cross the border illegally. There is really no incentive for them to attempt to vote, because it would be a) of little or no benefit to them, b) relatively easy to detect, c) it would be a felony, and d) would bring unwanted attention to themselves, likely leading to deportation.

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tomatogrower 7 years, 10 months ago

Considering that Republicans win for the most part in Kansas, I can't see that voter fraud, what little there is, is having a large impact. Unless those Republicans are committing voter fraud to win in such large numbers. Hmmm. Maybe Kansas voters aren't just automatically marking the R box. Maybe there has been a lot of voter fraud. Maybe we are a blue state, and our votes are being stolen.

overthemoon 7 years, 10 months ago

HaHa...Maybe you're right. I mean correct. I've often wondered how so many people can vote for so many politicians who don't give a d--n about them and lie to them constantly.

Jimo 7 years, 10 months ago

"He says if elected, he will work 40 to 50 hours a week as secretary of state..."

My guess is the job doesn't require that much time in a month.

Jimo 7 years, 10 months ago

Normally, you'd have to assume that the Republican will win the general election.

Of course: (A) normally, the Democrat doesn't have a track record of broad popularity among voters, (B) normally, the Republican isn't a poster-child for GOP embarrassment

Still, these same things were true in 2002, and Phill Kline managed to squeak by on a recount.

penguin 7 years, 10 months ago

Well a good comparison for Kobach is Phill Kline. Hopefully, Biggs decides to really campaign this time around...unlike when he lost the AG race to Kline.

overthemoon 7 years, 10 months ago

Ok, here's the real deal from a GOP Texans. I'm guessing your mind is in full lock-down so you won't be able to comprehend the rebuttal to the Joe/Jose garbage, but here it is.

tomatogrower 7 years, 10 months ago

Tom didn't write this. If you're going to cut a paste, Tom, you should try referencing your source. Here's the text of overthemoon's post. You can skew figures all you want Tom, but not every thing is as simplistic as you would like. I put what was in red in parenthesis. What's really funny is that this person who repudiated these calculations is anti-Obama and a Republican.

As Co-founder of Texans for Sensible Immigration Policy, I respond (which can be seen in red) to an e-mail that has been sent around to the masses entitled "Joe Legal vs. Jose Illegal" by setting the record straight with facts, not fiction!

There are two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal." Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California.

Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted. (Actually, a lot of Illegals do the same. They use a fake SS number.)

Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table."( Actually, a lot of U.S. Citizens do the same. Employers treat them as "sub contractors" to avoid paying matching taxes and providing WC and UE taxes.)

Ready? Now pay attention...

Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00. (This is absurd. A single man with that income, with no dependent children will pay less than 20% in taxes, including Social Security and Medicare. This comes to $10,400 leaving Joe Legal with $41,600. Just remember that illegals who used a fake Social Security number are doing the same thing - they're paying money into our Social Security system that they will never collect.)

Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00. (Again, under our current immigration laws, U.S. employers have hired millions of "Jose Illegals" LEGALLY. Their taxes are withheld just like Joe Legal's taxes are withheld. )

Joe Legal Pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00. (Actually, Joe Legal has $34,400.00. Remember he is paying less than 20% in taxes. Millions of illegals are doing the same thing with fake social security cards.)

Joe Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00. (This is an overstatement. Assuming you are talking about illegals who are not insured (there are millions working for employers with benefits) they are in the same boat as the legal uninsured. Both groups show up at the emergency room for the medical treatment because they cannot be turned away.)

tomatogrower 7 years, 10 months ago

Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00. Actually, Joe Legal now has $28,400.00. (This also implies that Illegals receive welfare and food stamps. This is not true - both welfare and food stamp programs require a VERIFIED valid Social Security ID.)

Joe Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00. (Again, no one gets foods stamps without a verified SS number! Jose Illegal now has $25,200 after food expenses.)

Joe Legal pays rent of $1200.00 per month, or $14,400 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631.00. (Actually, Joe Legal has $14,000.00. Also, many Illegals own their homes, so what is the point?)

Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month Federal rent subsidy. (Again, not true because of the SS ID requirement.)

Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month for rent, or $6000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00. (Why would one think the average Jose Illegal pays any less rent than the average "Joe Legal"? This is a deliberate misrepresentation. Jose Illegal's now has $10,800 after rent expense.) Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 per year for insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00. Actually, he now has $11,600.00. Legal status is no guarantee that someone will buy insurance - again the deck is being stacked.

Jose Illegal says "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00. If Illegals were allowed to renew their drivers licenses, they could buy liability insurance on the cars and trucks that we sold them. Now, we refuse to renew their drivers licenses?!? So, who is it that is keeping Jose Illegal from buying insurance?!?

Joe Legal has to make his $7,231 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc. Actually, it is $11,600.00. Yes, he sure does have to make it stretch. Good thing he live in a country that offers more opportunities to people regardless of class or national origin. Everything he buys contributes to our U.S. economy. Everyone should want Joe Legal to succeed. When he succeeds, America succeeds!

Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 (the correct number is $10,800) stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month. Jose Illegal can do whatever he wants with his money. But, he also buys goods and services in the United States of America. His money counts the same as Joe Legal.

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work. Also known as getting ahead!

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family. This is a ridiculous characterization. More likely, he is standing on a corner waiting for any job at $10.00 per hour, hoping that the guy that picks him up will pay him.

tomatogrower 7 years, 10 months ago

Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home. They bot get a free lunch and they both study English.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay. What makes you think "Jose" did not pay for these services? In Texas, we pay our police and fire services through local sales and property taxes. If Jose had lived in Texas he would have paid plenty of those. Now consider this: If Jose had lived in Arizona, how likely is it that Jose Illegal will call the police when he is the victim of a crime? He is afraid to report the crime as he knows he is subject to deportation!

Do you get it now?!? Yes, it's obvious that you know very little about Illegal Immigration!

If you vote for or support any politician who supports immigration reform - You are part of the problem! No, you are the problem! Keep it up, and you will drive more legal immigrants to vote for the likes of Obama Socialism! If you can read get you head out of ... and think! God gave you a brain. Use it and support Sensible Immigration Reform. America deserves a sensible immigration policy. Secure our borders and demand a positive ID of every NON-CITIZEN in the country. Deport those with violent criminal records but issue work permits to those we allow to stay. Allow no short cuts to citizenship, except for military service. Establish a penalty tax for non-citizens and their employers as an incentive to hire citizens first!

Jimo 7 years, 10 months ago

Jose Illegal's daughter, Maria, earned an engineering degree and went on to found the largest global computer company, valued at $100 trillion Euros and employing 350,000 people globally (and pays more taxes to the IRS than the entire population of Lawrence, Kansas).

Joe Legal's son, Junior, dropped out of high school, became addicted to meth, and was sent to prison when he died in a riot at the age of 27.

I guess while we're making up bizarre and extreme scenarios we might as well tell "the rest of the story"!

newmedia 7 years, 10 months ago

I'm still awaiting the story about the overwhelming passage of Proposition C in Missouri yesterday. Guess I just missed it. Too bad the Kansas folks can't get a chance to make their wishes known on this program. Nice job Missouri !

overthemoon 7 years, 10 months ago

Hmmm. Two pictures of Kobach. None of Biggs. So, is there some editorial comment being made here?

overthemoon 7 years, 10 months ago

Yep. Another one of the lies made into imagined fact. There is no "Liberal Media".

overthemoon 7 years, 10 months ago

Its when the media reports facts based in reality. Really gets the conserves jumpin' all around screaming 'Left, Left, Left." Like in marching, you never get anywhere if you only use one foot.

blindrabbit 7 years, 10 months ago

Jawvohl: Sieg Heil Herr Kobach. When do the long knives, glass breaking and book burnings begin!

Steve Jacob 7 years, 10 months ago

Disappointed about Kobach, but I remember 2004. He won a primary for Congress in 2004, did not even try to appeal to moderates, and Dennis Moore had his first easy win after three close elections. I am guessing money will flow to both candidates,

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