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Kobach getting paid to train Arizona sheriff’s department on how to arrest suspected illegal immigrants

Secretary of state candidate earning $300 an hour in Ariz.

Kris Kobach engages in an online chat with ljworld.com readers in this 2004 photo. Kobach helped write a new immigration law in Arizona that has civil rights groups up in arms.

Kris Kobach engages in an online chat with ljworld.com readers in this 2004 photo. Kobach helped write a new immigration law in Arizona that has civil rights groups up in arms.

April 28, 2010, 5:32 p.m. Updated April 29, 2010, 8:39 a.m.

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— Republican secretary of state candidate Kris Kobach not only helped write Arizona’s new immigration law, but he has been working for $300 per hour to train law enforcement officers there on procedures in arresting suspected illegal immigrants.

Kobach, an attorney, was hired as an immigration expert to help the Maricopa County sheriff’s office in immigration enforcement activities and policy. The contract, signed in October, calls for a minimum payment to Kobach of $1,500 per month, plus expenses and travel.

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The new state law in Arizona, which Kobach helped put together, has been under fire from civil rights advocates, President Obama and even some Republican politicians.

The law says anyone police suspect of being in the country illegally must produce proof of being in the country lawfully or face arrest.

Critics say the law will result in people being targeted by law enforcement because of their skin color or language.

But Kobach says the criticism is off base and that the law prohibits racial profiling.

His contract with Maricopa County deals with training deputies under Sheriff Joe Arpaio on arrest procedures under federal immigration law. Arpaio, who is considering a run for governor, has been criticized by some for improper tactics in cracking down on illegal immigration.

Kobach’s help on the new state immigration law in Arizona was done for free, he said.

“I want these states to draft laws that will stand up in court,” he said.

He also has written local ordinances dealing with illegal immigration in Hazelton, Pa., and Farmers Branch, Texas.

Kobach said he was asked to help out on the Arizona law by state Sen. Russell Pearce, a Republican from Mesa, Ariz.

Kobach described Pearce as a friend. Pearce has been a controversial figure in Arizona politics.

In 2006, Pearce sent an e-mail to supporters in which he copied an article from a white separatist group.

The article from the National Alliance’s website criticized the media for promoting multiculturalism, racial equality and presenting the Jewish Holocaust as fact. Pearce said he didn’t know the entire contents of the article and when he became aware of them he apologized and said they didn’t represent his views.

Of Pearce, Kobach said, “I know him as a person who has never said anything that indicated any kind of racial bias. He’s a very good man.”

Kobach is a former Kansas Republican Party chairman, and a law professor at University of Missouri-Kansas City. From 2001 to 2003, he served as the chief adviser on immigration law to then-U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft.

Kobach is senior counsel for the Immigration Law Reform Institute, which describes itself as representing “citizens experiencing injury resulting from illegal immigration.”

A previous version of this story incorrectly stated what the law would require people to prove to police.

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cowboy 3 years, 11 months ago

Kobach , funded by FAIR , whose board members and founders are white supremacists

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jayhawklawrence 3 years, 11 months ago

I'm glad Kobach is good at something.

Being a high paid and politically connected lawyer is a good gig and almost respectable.

He is an idiot as a politician.

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yankeevet 3 years, 11 months ago

A nation full of crooks.............................

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TopJayhawk 3 years, 11 months ago

I get so sick of Obama, and all the others including some Republicans.
they are all willing to sell this whole issue down the river because they are pandering to the hispanic vote. This is the problem with this country and poloticians in a nut shell. They don't care about the rule of law, or our countries integrity so long as they get the vote. Disgusting.
They should all be voted out at the next election. Repubs. Dems, and the communist Obama especially.

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TopJayhawk 3 years, 11 months ago

I get so sick of Obama, and all the others including some Republicans.
they are all willing to sell this whole issue down the river because they are pandering to the hispanic vote. This is the problem with this country and poloticians in a nut shell. They don't care about the rule of law, or our countries integrity so long as they get the vote. Disgusting.
They should all be voted out at the next election. Repubs. Dems, and the communist Obama especially.

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oneeye_wilbur 3 years, 11 months ago

Governor Brewer is just beating Joe Arpaio to the illegal thingy. He is supposed to run.

Lawrence needs Joe Arpaio and Rex Johnson in the Sheriff's dept. Rex will be PR man and Joe will do for Loring Henderson that Loring cannot get done. and Dr. Covington for the school district.

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overplayedhistory 3 years, 11 months ago

We don't need illegals to fill our kids with drugs, we do a good job of that on our own.

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geo 3 years, 11 months ago

At least we have someone (Kobach) in Kansas that is worried about this state problems with illegals and is not pandering to the left wing communist quislings and political correct anti-america groups.

These open border people maybe wants all the illegals to come to Kansas and bring their criminal element, drug dealers, smugglers, gangs and murderers with them. Let them rob you, kill your families and rape your daughters and fill your children full of drugs.. Would you be happy, then?

He has my vote. Lets get a similar law passed in Kansas . We need to control the problems of illegals, nation wide. There is no schadenfreude in this for the average American citizen. They just want their laws obeyed and enforced. And not let the local authorities pick and choose which laws they will enforce. Many police chiefs are catering to the illegal groups, and do nothing. There is no revenue in it for them, like photo radar and speed traps.

The illegal do not respect our laws, not obey them. We need to adopt Mexico's laws on how to deal with illegals, they would put a stop to it within a few months.

You may want to familiarize yourself on how Mexico handles their illegals. Second offense is ten years in prison. First offense is a felony. Our government has coddle the illegals and created this problem.

Now is time for all illegals to leave this country and apply the legal way.

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Ray Parker 3 years, 11 months ago

3 U.S. border patrol agents per day are assaulted at the Mexican border. Someone is kidnapped every 35 hours in Phoenix, AZ, usually by human smugglers. One in five American teenagers last year used some type of illegal drug, many of which were smuggled across the Mexican border. 460,000 illegal aliens reside in Arizona, the state with the most illegal border crossings, with a total state population of 6.5 million. Mr. Kobach is worth every penny of his fee in Arizona. Meanwhile, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, while testifying before a Senate panel, said the United States’ southwest border is “as secure now as it has ever been.”

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oneeye_wilbur 3 years, 11 months ago

Kobach and Palin to appear on Dancing with the Stars.

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Richard Heckler 3 years, 11 months ago

Kobach is a snake however that may be an insult to snakes.

I was thinking Kobach might be closer to McCain/Palin. I'm thinking MCain suggested Kobach to come in and rip off Arizona tax payers @ $300 per hour. Typical Tea Party Repub.... hates taxes UNLESS tax dollars are flowing their way @ $300 per hour!

Any good patriot would have offered their services for no charge to correct such a dire threat to the USA!

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lounger 3 years, 11 months ago

Look this Kobach is bad news all around. He and Dick Cheney were buddys and that speaks volumes. Please disregard this a*s and DO NOT vote for him ever again!! He is a snake!!!!

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bruno2 3 years, 11 months ago

Kobach & Arpaio, script for training law enforcement officers on procedures in arresting suspected illegal immigrants.

Step 1 - Proper uniform includes cap, blouse, breeches, insignia, leather belt , boots and armband. Cap is peaked. Blouse and breeches are brown. Cross belt and waist belt are black. Cross belt is worn from right shoulder to left hip. Arm band is worn on left bicep. Boots are black and knee high.

Step 2 - "Kann ich sehen sie ihre Papieren bitte?" (May I see your papers please?)

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morganlefay 3 years, 11 months ago

I carry an ID with me at all times and would be able to show any law enforcement if I was asked to produce one. I don't understand why this is such a bad thing. If someone is legal, they shouldn't have a problem with this law.

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brendaindyk 3 years, 11 months ago

Before we all jump to conclusions and name calling please take the time to actually read Kris Kobach's enlightening Op-ed piece in the New York Times that explains the new Arizona law: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/29/opinion/29kobach.html?ref=opinion

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remember_username 3 years, 11 months ago

Just another Kansan seeking employment out-of-state, what's wrong with that? Don't agree with his politics but a man's got a right to keep gas in the Escalade and put food on the china for his family. Besides his day job is at UMKC...wait...this guy ever work in Kansas? What's he doing running for office in Kansas?

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Richard Payton 3 years, 11 months ago

This law may help end sweat shops and go after the employer that abuse's illegal day workers.

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ShePrecedes 3 years, 11 months ago

Kobach is one massively sleazy, lying politician, who deeply desires to govern the bedrooms of the voters!!!! Talk about socialism!!!

People don't like politicians like this these days. These are the kinds of politicians who commit fraud and election crimes and do aberrant sexual acts.

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ShePrecedes 3 years, 11 months ago

This Kobach liar told our own city council that the uncontstitutional Patriot Act, which he dubiously helped write with Ashcroft, had not been abused. The council knew better because they had been sent every single news article found on all the abuses that had been done using the Patriot Act. So while he flat out lied to our city council, they knew ( ! ) immediately that he was lying. They had all the information handed to them before Kobach ever took a breath to make that blatant lie.

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sourpuss 3 years, 11 months ago

In a period of ascendancy, politicians act for the common good. In a period of decadence, politicians act for their own good.

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acg 3 years, 11 months ago

What a piece of garbage. I know who not to vote for for sec state.

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firstnation101 3 years, 11 months ago

How would a Kansan know how to find out Illegal Immigrants, when he has never lived there....what a waste of money!!

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yankeevet 3 years, 11 months ago

Wow!! 300 bucks an hour?? Those govt jobs really pay well..........plus benefits..........

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CLARKKENT 3 years, 11 months ago

we have enough trouble in kansas without adding kobach to the problems in state government.

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christy kennedy 3 years, 11 months ago

Jeeze. $300 an hour to figure out how to run people who make a few dollars an hour back over an imaginary line. For that much $$ they could have hired 30 unemployed folks to do something productive. But then inequity is the basis of this entire issue.

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overplayedhistory 3 years, 11 months ago

consumer1 (anonymous) says…

What a bunch of political poison. Thank LJW for not showing your left wing bias too much!! Isn't it illegal for you to run a political smear campaign ? Shouldn't the cost of this story be considered an ad for Kobach's oppenent? Typical left wing bias at work here.


Events themselves, and reporting of the events always seams to have a political left wing bias. Either this is true due to some sort of liberal litmus test that everyone is given before being given a camera or keyboard, or your reality does not reflect the actual reality that we all live.

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macon47 3 years, 11 months ago

i thought it was a requirement to carry your green card if you are not a citizen. so this law makes being an illegal alien , illegal? just peachy !!

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wysiwyg69 3 years, 11 months ago

Good job Kris, when you are done in Arizona come back and concentrate on Kansas, [southwest].

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lawrencefan 3 years, 11 months ago

I am very happy for Mr. Kobach. Arizona is an ideal place for him to take up residency. The more time he spends there training law enforcement in the ways of maintaining a police state, the less time he has to campaign in Kansas spreading his poison.

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Hydra 3 years, 11 months ago

The best part of the various threads condensed into one...hopefully.

Arizona police don't want to bother with drug runners carrying less than 500 lbs? Sounds pretty liberal compared to California grow your own! 300 hundred thousand leaving Arizona to find work elsewhere. Sounds like the ones who actually want to work and might make good citizen's. I bet the drug runners aren't leaving.

If they want to create more jobs for leagal workers try busting the businesses flouting Federal and state employment laws by under the table hiring practices.

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consumer1 3 years, 11 months ago

What a bunch of political poison. Thank LJW for not showing your left wing bias too much!! Isn't it illegal for you to run a political smear campaign ? Shouldn't the cost of this story be considered an ad for Kobach's oppenent? Typical left wing bias at work here.

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nugget 3 years, 11 months ago

He needs the work, leave him alone. After he fails to beat Chris Biggs for Secretary of State he'll be needing the cash. In fact, most Kansans would be happier if he just moved to the Nazi state of Arizona.

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rtwngr 3 years, 11 months ago

People that enter this country without going through the proper immigration channels break federal law. Laws are established to facilitate order in society. Those of you that call us "knuckle draggers", "right wing fascists", (I would challenge you to give me a definition of fascist) and any other name that you desire, were to be the victim of a crime, you would expect the law to be enforced. That is all that is happening here. Illegal immigrants are dragging the social welfare system of a lot of states down! Case in point; California!

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newshound 3 years, 11 months ago

If you read the law, it's basically the same as the federal law. If you're illegal...you are breaking the law!

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overplayedhistory 3 years, 11 months ago

Keep dragging those knuckles, I am sure if you stick to it, one day all those brown people will be gone. I can't think of a better way to get all these fat people to lose some weight. Can you say "my own manual labor". Who would of thought it. You could solve health care costs and jobs with radical immigration reform. After all only small town rural white middle Americans are real Americans. Isn't that right Sara.

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75x55 3 years, 11 months ago

Looks like the leftist bedwetters are going to have a field day - to no avail. This sort of thing will get Kobach more votes in the future than you can imagine, especially from the LEGAL immigrant community [since they're racist nazis as well /sarc].

Biggest problem is that both political parties are abusing this country by letting the illegal immigration problem skyrocket, as they pander to it for the illegitimate votes.

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lawrenceRezident 3 years, 11 months ago

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denak 3 years, 11 months ago

I couldn't find the actual final bill but here is the summary that the govenor received from the Az House of Representatives. Here is the link.

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/summary/h.sb1070_04-19-10_astransmittedtogovernor.doc.htm

The bill number is SB1070-492R.

Interesting reading. What I find interesting is that it doesn't require that you prove citizenship, only that you are lawfully here and in order to do that you only have to provide: A valid driver's license or a state ID, or tribal identification or a green card.

The law also prohibits law enforcement from using native language, skin color, race or national origina as a bases for asking for identification.

However, the bill stipulates that law enforcement can stop a vehicle if they suspect that the driver of the vehicle is violating human trafficking laws. So, theoretically, if there are more than 2 "hispanics" in a car, they could be pulled over. I guess those jokes about how many Mexicans can one fit in a car won't be such a big hit in Arizona anymore.

The bill also allows a person's immigration status to be used in any court proceeding even if there is no foundation for a person immigration status to be admitted.

The rest of the bill deals with sanctions against employers.

The official name of the bill is: Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhood Act."

Dena

Dena

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lawrenceRezident 3 years, 11 months ago

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denak 3 years, 11 months ago

Does anyone actually have a copy of this law? I went to the az.gov, arizona's official web site, and I couldn't find this law anywhere. I googled it and all I got were a bunch of opinion sites.

So, if someone has a link to the actual law I would really like to read it.

Dena

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gccs14r 3 years, 11 months ago

These states and communities having Kobach write their laws for them better have an indemnity clause in their contracts with him. He's going to make some victims rich at the taxpayers' expense.

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tomatogrower 3 years, 11 months ago

Oh yes, how to profit from laws you wrote. What a package deal you offer Herr Kobach. Don't ask me for my birth certificate, because you'll get something else. I refuse to carry mine around.

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konzahawk 3 years, 11 months ago

Thank God, for people like Kris who actually care about our borders, laws and constitution. I hope Kansas, Missouri and every other state follows Arizona's lead. As for these silly boycotts by LA and San Francisco leaders. Get real. Do they not realize that the majority of Americans support this and will boycott their "fine" cities because of their stupid actions?

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zenmon 3 years, 11 months ago

Does the law not specifically state that the police cannot stop someone and ask for immigration status? This article seems to indicate that officers can approach anyone in Arizona and ask for documentation, however that isn't what I've read. It says that law enforcement cannot ask about status without first stopping the person for some other violation and only can ask after their status may come into question. It is also my understanding that LEGAL immigrants are REQUIRED to carry a green card at ALL times and must produce it upon request, this is not a state law but federal, Section 264 of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

I'm sure there are going to be questionable if not complete violations of this new law by law enforcement, just like there are now with almost any law, however if the law clearly states X, Y, Z and prohibits X, Y, Z then why aren't we talking about how to avoid issues with what is written in the law and not what isn't?

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Keith 3 years, 11 months ago

“I want these states to draft laws that will stand up in court,” he said.

Better find someone else to write them then.

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ksjayhawk74 3 years, 11 months ago

Here's another question: the article from a white supremacist group that he liked so much he copied it and sent it out... How did he come across that in the first place?

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rbwaa 3 years, 11 months ago

Questions a little bit off the topic: What exactly is the proof of citizenship a person must present to avoid arrest for suspicion of being illegally in the country? Will we all have to carry around our birth certificates to prove we are citizens? How many people even have a copy of their birth certificate let alone carry it with them? Would I have to sit in jail waiting for a copy of my birth certificate to be obtained?

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ksjayhawk74 3 years, 11 months ago

HA!!! He brags that he helped write the unconstitutional bill for free out of the good(bad)ness of his heart... but they're going to pay him $300 an hour.

How exactly are they not going to use racial profiling when they're targeting non-white people? I'm sure he'll have to put in a lot or work with them to figure that out; at $300/hour + expenses.

What a dirt bag.

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mellyandthejets 3 years, 11 months ago

I personally know Kris Kobach and have worked with him many times. He's a intelligent, educated and will be a great Secretary of State. GO KRIS!

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Boston_Corbett 3 years, 11 months ago

Kolbach has turned his "I am just interested in this issue" into quite a one-man lucrative law industry.

He offer's little cities his pro-bono help, and then drags them into litigation that ends up costing those cities hundreds of thousands of dollars. Almost like the mafia, I would say. Read about one such instance here:

http://www.sandmountainreporter.com/story.lasso?ewcd=ee950272e88f43a6

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