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Man arrested downtown after attempted attack with railroad spike

April 14, 2010

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A 24-year-old transient man was arrested Wednesday afternoon in downtown Lawrence after threatening restaurant patrons with a railroad spike.

According to Lawrence Police Sgt. Damon Thomas, the transient man had been walking down Massachusetts Street when he approached some people drinking in the outdoor patio area at an area restaurant.

Thomas said the man asked some people drinking outside Free State Brewing Co., 636 Massachusetts St., if he could have a beer or cigarette. When the people refused, the man became belligerent. He then produced what the patrons of the restaurant originally believed to be a knife and began threatening people with it. Thomas said the weapon turned out to be a railroad spike.

The patrons were able to talk the transient man down and then called the police.

Thomas said the suspect then turned around as if he were going to attack someone, but was tackled by a 49-year-old Lawrence man and held until police arrived. When officers reached the scene, they subdued the man and took him into custody.

The man was booked into the Douglas County Jail about 6:20 p.m. on charges of aggravated assault and criminal damage.

No one was injured during the incident.

Comments

Multidisciplinary 4 years ago

oh man, I gotta quit using that back button. Most of these comments weren't there when I posted before. Now I feel like late Thursday night at the Sandbar, and I'm not even there! It's a long wade of men from our usual seats to the nachos. But oh, that certain man at the end of the aisle, (wink wink say no more!)...lol!

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bearded_gnome 4 years ago

apparently some replies got tucked in above again, and again I say I haven't read them.

should also note that the threadeddedededdedness destroys the validity of the post numbering, that was quite appreciated.
your fix broke it LJWorld!

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Multidisciplinary 4 years ago

should have read: These are the type of holes I write of, the comment replies that will inevitably occur before you will ban people. Banning will happen perhaps that day, later on, weeks, whenever.

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Multidisciplinary 4 years ago

jkealing (Jonathan Kealing) replies…

Yeah, unfortunately when we flushed banned commenters from replies, we had to ditch any replies to that comment. Shouldn't be a problem again because you shouldn't see banned comments and be able to reply to them. April 15, 2010 at 2:53 p.m.

* permalink
* reply
* suggest removal

It just happened again tonight, with Ceal's comment on anna's tax blog. She had made the comment before you removed the person. Now both comments in the tree are gone. These are the type of holes I write of, the ones that will inevitable occur before you will ban people, perhaps that day, later on, weeks, whenever.

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Flap Doodle 4 years ago

That's already been disappeareded, TOB. I was gonna post a plug for Snap's College of Cheese Making and Taxidermy (this month's special is 2 for 1 on nutria and swiss, the number to call is BR-549).

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The_Original_Bob 4 years ago

Great. Now we are getting spammers on the formerly esteemed LJW commenting boards. This idiot above me.

http://www2.ljworld.com/users/dfgdge/comments/

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Flap Doodle 4 years ago

You know who hasn't been around much lately? He Who Must Not Be Named's partner in the doggie crusade of a couple of years ago. Did she get disappeareded?

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bearded_gnome 4 years ago

whew! [back to original topic of this thread] it's a good thing that spikeboy wasn't a wilding black teen, or else Mr. Tackle would be called a scrofulous racist bigot. [see Kansas City].


read this first about 10am, came back a few minutes ago, went to same place down the thread, numerically apparently two or three comments were "threaded" above, I state here I did not read them because they were above!
I refuse to sort through the whole d----d thread to find current comments!

so, those more current threaded comments are not seen by me, and probably not seen by many others.


what Multi and Jonathan said: excellent arguments against the threadeddeeddededness! please end the madness. LJWorld, it was good before, not broke, your "fix" broke it!

plus, please let us see whose comments get deleted. and if I reply to a disappeareded poster, my post shouldn't be tossed out unless my post is somehow violating the terms itself.

all users should simply avoid the "reply" feature. if you do not, your post is less likely to be read, and if someone in that thread gets thrown off, then flush goes your* post.
just post the old fashioned way.

end the madness.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years ago

I haven't read the user agreement lately, but apparently, satire and sarcasm are no longer permitted.

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The_Original_Bob 4 years ago

"Amazing how something like threaded comments and anonymous grey post removal markers creates a den of chaos and confusion."

I'm right behind you. As soon as see what tomorrow's lunch specials are.

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Multidisciplinary 4 years ago

(grabs sides and rolls with laughter at workinghard) okay you guys, I've got things to do, later.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 4 years ago

I am giving up following commenter's discussions here on the Formerly Award winning LJWorld.com.
Amazing how something like threaded comments and anonymous grey post removal markers creates a den of chaos and confusion. Not worth my time, or advertising dollar.

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Multidisciplinary 4 years ago

Autie, also note..they disappeareded hey _f, but had trouble removing a tiered comment made by same. I and another had replied to H_F's comment.

I now see, that when they finally were able to debug the system and remove the offender's comment, the solution also removed all lower tiered comments as well. Not just grayed, but removed completely in tree form.

Therefore, if anyone gets removed in the future, all threads will become chock full of gaps unless we revert to repasting comments we want to reply to at the thread bottom on our own, then adding a comment just as we used to do.

I suggest this on longer threads late in the day, or on the second day anyway, as people are tired of rechecking the thread by that time. Short threads there is no need of course.

It's not anarchy or rebellion, it's just that the new system has flaws and now threatens and hinders our ability to enjoy reading the threads, currently and in retrospect.

Just imagine some of the old threads that we've reread, TOB's biscuit thread, with people responding to marion, if all those comments had been threaded and now they were all gone because one user was disappeareded. Then think of how many others are now gone. The percentages for fallout are just crazy.

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autie 4 years ago

snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says… Haven't seen this many posts whacked from a single thread since the days when He Who Must Not Be Named was around....

He Who Must Not Be Named had more than this whacked on his own blogs

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workinghard 4 years ago

notjust--useful information. Also, now we know when someone gets disappeareded, any replies you made to their comment disappears off the blog too. But it still shows up in your comment history.

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notjustyoureverydayaveragetrol 4 years ago

if you use the mobile version of the ljw you can still see who got pinked

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notjustyoureverydayaveragetrol 4 years ago

if you use the mobile version of the ljw you can still see who got pinked

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75x55 4 years ago

kthxbi - really?

/sarc

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Moderateguy 4 years ago

Chuck needs to install a "break glass for bear spray" device on the patio. This kind of thing will happen more an more in Lawrence especially with all the warm weather. All the enabling by the caring liberals will attract even more "travelers." More people will be robbed, assaulted and even worse. Nothing will change.

Hopefully the beat down this poor misunderstood soul received will convince him to travel elsewhere.

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The_Original_Bob 4 years ago

"someone was there, and posts a tinypic link of the incident, does that violate the Usage Agreement? "

Apparently so. I going to have to go back and reread the agreement. It must have changed. I've been greyed (sadly, not pinked) several times this morning for reposting Autie's jokey comment.

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smitty 4 years ago

Charged twice with aggressive panhandling...is this the first time that law was used?

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Multidisciplinary 4 years ago

Hey Jonathan, if someone was there, and posts a tinypic link of the incident, does that violate the Usage Agreement? Just like being at the scene of a wreck, or a storm photo,or a colorful fall tree, it's their real life event, they took the photo. They would not be outing another user. ? Just curious, as say, if there was a wreck and the victims were yet to be identified yet a passerby had a shot that had some identifying info on the car or the person in the shot. An id number on a wrecked plane or washed up boat.

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kthxbi 4 years ago

75x55, that is not what happened at all.

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prospector 4 years ago

There were probably six guys and a couple women ready to take the twerp out but you always want a potential buzz kill to go away. The LJW said they "talked him down", but I am not sure from where? The idiot learned it is foolish to attempt to prevent one from peacefully enjoying a fine handcrafted Free State Beer. I bet the guy that planted the perp was out of beer and a resolution was needed and made. I so hope he was able to enjoy a beer while he was sitting on the scumbag.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years ago

Could someone on the staff explain what part of the user agreement my post violated?

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independant1 4 years ago

A thing that is free is of no earthly importance. (Will Rogers)

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75x55 4 years ago

So, who did the officers subdue and take into custody? The overly-aggressive violent (probably white Tea Party supporter) who, likely unprovoked, attacked some poor homeless victim?

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consumer1 4 years ago

Nothing to see here folks, go home.

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puddleglum 4 years ago

where is the red ink comment removed?

I love that Red Ink.

JK- can't you post the photos with a blur around dude's face so at least we can see some of the action? thanks

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The_Original_Bob 4 years ago

"But I see that very offensive new user name is still up there."

Hey FUQ.

/just kidding. I noticed that as well.

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Flap Doodle 4 years ago

Haven't seen this many posts whacked from a single thread since the days when He Who Must Not Be Named was around....

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workinghard 4 years ago

Saw your post before it was deleted along with others, and don't see why on earth it was removed. But I see that very offensive new user name is still up there.

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autie 4 years ago

This is yet another example of how a certain population of individuals can and do create havoc as well as potentially dangerous situations. It tends to have a detrimental effect on all of the patrons and vendors of the lovely downtown areas. I have seen lots of wierd things in my day but never anybody with a tattoo like that on their face.

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The_Original_Bob 4 years ago

JK - Point taken, but I have no idea how this is a violation of the user's agreement. You let a certain salt and pepper haired nine finger hate monger spew his racism and sexism on here for years. Has the user agreement been updated? If so, I will reread it and play by the rules, but this just seems petty.

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 4 years ago

A big sign that your life has gone awry: dude twice your age subdues you in public.

The 49 year old is probably still in the bathtub trying to wash the funk off. Try tomato juice, dude.

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The_Original_Bob 4 years ago

This comment was removed by the site staff for violation of the usage agreement.

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The_Original_Bob 4 years ago

This comment was removed by the site staff for violation of the usage agreement.

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MacHeath 4 years ago

Dang, I may have to get a carry permit. I really don't want to shoot anyone, but since I have a disability I feel like an easy mark...

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The_Original_Bob 4 years ago

This comment was removed by the site staff for violation of the usage agreement.

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TheBigW 4 years ago

Too bad there is no way to post photos here, this low life had some real nice tattoos on his face, on the right cheek the word "horse" and on the left cheek the word "Sh**" . Then like a moron he is he tried to fight the 8 cops.

Come LJW dose anyone bother to check the online photo submissions from the community, those where great images of the action you were sent.

How about it J. K> ?

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g_rock 4 years ago

If we get rid of the transients, this problem will still be here. Drunk, random and stupid college kids still exist.

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Luxor 4 years ago

And they want to put the homeless shelter near Praire Park Elementary????

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consumer1 4 years ago

Was the tackler big Dave from the bar? He could get the job done.

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jbiegs 4 years ago

You don't hear about things like this happening in Topeka! LOL

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autie 4 years ago

This comment was removed by the site staff for violation of the usage agreement.

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years ago

This comment was removed by the site staff for violation of the usage agreement.

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audibleangel 4 years ago

like pigeons. feed them once and they will flock

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FarneyMac 4 years ago

CMM, I'm sure those posts will be along shortly as soon as the public library opens.

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CMM 4 years ago

Still waiting for the upcoming post about how it is the transient's right to be in this town. Come on guys, they are entitled to us giving them free stuff. I think it's really going to take one of those transients killing a mass st. patron for the city to actually do something about it.

But hey, I'm not a bleeding heart liberal, so I've wanted them out for quite some time now.

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yankeevet 4 years ago

If someone there had a conceal and carry permit; he may have gotton more then a beer and a cigeratte.

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workinghard 4 years ago

Another example of the entitlement a lot of the younger generation feel. Notice I did not say all, but a lot. It is now coming out that society went overboard with the whole "you are special and everything you do is special" mentality, and "you are entitled to anything you want" parenting. Kudos to those parents that realized that way of thinking would do more harm than good. There seems to be a lot of transient problems lately, could it be a conspiracy to get the city to approve the new homeless shelter to get them out of our hair?

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independant1 4 years ago

Poor guy, walked all the way downtown from frat row for one more round and that's how you treat him?. He'll most likely be late for his English lit class today.

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spacehog 4 years ago

Multi, I would rather not see my pic in the paper. I was just thirsty.

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Stacy Napier 4 years ago

I don't think it really is about how they get here, but why they come here. If everyone would stop feeding them, and giving them change so they can buy their booze and porno magizines. If the city would not let them camp out when we already have a law against it. I think you would find that they all would just leave, because there would be no reason for them to come here.

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Bob Kraxner 4 years ago

Arrested? for what? there were probably 3 or 4 people in the restaurant involved, so why didn't somebody have the presence of mind to diffuse the situation by just giving the guy a beer and a cigarette, then sending him on his way? It's the middle of the day, there are lots of witnesses around, do you really think this guys going to attack someone, in that situation, with a railroad spike no less? You a$$holes who call the pigs everytime somebody sneezes, are exactly why the city of Lawrence, or any other town, has to hire more cops than they really need, thus eating up all your tax dollars, giving you all something to cry about when the city can't afford to plow the streets , or fill the potholes to your liking...

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pfunk81 4 years ago

notwhatyouthink, you'd have to stop the trains to stop the transients. That's how a lot of them get here.

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Eride 4 years ago

This is a perfect article to run with the recent plaza "riots."

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1234 4 years ago

AWESOME I wish I could have seen the dude tackle the "downtowner" lol

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Multidisciplinary 4 years ago

This article is useless without photos by one of you with your cell phone..I know you were there..pony up!

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Stacy Napier 4 years ago

Another reason to get the transients out of our city.

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parrothead8 4 years ago

"...but was tackled by a 49-year-old Lawrence man and held until police arrived."

Nice. That's what I call a citizen's arrest.

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