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Dogs will still be welcome at Farmer’s Market this year

April 1, 2010

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Farmers Market (8th and N.H.)

8th and New Hampshire streets, Lawrence

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Dog lovers can continue to love the Lawrence Farmers’ Market.

Tom Buller, market coordinator, said the organization’s board has decided to back away from a proposed policy that would ban dogs at the market.

“The vendors decided it was something they could manage,” Buller said. “There was a real significant voice from the community that they wanted to have the option of bringing their dogs to the market.”

Buller said the market instead will remind dog owners to keep their pets on a leash and be careful to keep the animals away from the food at the market.

Comments

beatrice 5 years, 4 months ago

Shout leash!

People, if you have to take your pet with you everywhere you go, you don't own the pet -- it owns you.

Leave the beasts at home!

ozzynbn 5 years, 4 months ago

I am a dog owner and would never take it to the Farmers Market. The dog doesn't belong there. It's not cute or trendy when people take their pets to such places. It's annoying.

workinghard 5 years, 4 months ago

"Buller said the market instead will remind dog owners to keep their pets on a leash and be careful to keep the animals away from the food at the market." So they won't be able to buy any food since they can't get near it? Well I guess if that's ok with the venders, but I thought that was why the venders were there?

Sandy Halloran 5 years, 4 months ago

Blue73harley- Ridiculous to you maybe. But to those who really enjoy the few places that you can still stroll with your dog along.. it means something.

beatrice- "Own?" "it?" Wow.. that's cold. I don't really think of my dog in terms of owning a possession. He is a friend.. and I'd like to include him if possible. Lawrence has always been the kind of warm and laid back sort of place you can do that.

beobachter- Sorry you feel that way. Fortunately for you the world is full of such places. Likely you wont miss this one too much. My dog would.. and so would I.

ozzynbn- I wasn't aware I was trying to be cute or trendy. And sorry to annoy you. But sorrier for your dog. I am sure with a little effort you could train him to be such a good citizen that you would like to bring him along too and enjoy a day together.

workinghard- There are lots of things to buy at Farmer's market besides food.. It is an enjoyable place to go with music and crafts and all sorts of things. If my dog's radiation will contaminate the apples and make them inedible then I don't mind keeping him away from them.. in any case, he is on a leash and well behaved and most people seem to enjoy his presence.

Boston_Corbett 5 years, 4 months ago

Woof, woof.

End dog abuse. Especially in Wyandotte County.

mom_of_three 5 years, 4 months ago

I own dogs who behave well in public, but I would never take it to the farmers market. Way too crowded. Not sure if they would enjoy it for more than 5 minutes. And I wouldn't enjoy it either. I would be too worried about something happening to my dog, such as getting stepped on.
If I want to spend time with my dog, I take them for a walk around the lake or to the dog park. And I don't enjoy necessarily enjoy the presence of other dogs at the market. Their leashes are too long, it's too crowed and hard to maneuver.

Ron Holzwarth 5 years, 4 months ago

What's not been mentioned is that some people are terribly allergic to dogs, and that might be a serious problem for them. So, those potential customers will just have to stay away.

But, most people don't mind a well behaved dog that does not paw or bark much, and especially does not jump up on people.

Those who do not properly control their dogs put all dog owners in a bad light.

Steve Bunch 5 years, 4 months ago

I stopped going to the farmers market last year because of the dog situation. Looks like I'll stay away again this year. Dogocracy rules.

flux 5 years, 4 months ago

beobachter sounds like Debbie the downer

somedude20 5 years, 4 months ago

<=====summer is coming and it is butt sniffin time (no fat butts though, they stink) woof woof

trinity 5 years, 4 months ago

i'm glad people love their dogs (and noisy, unmanaged children)-but that does not mean that i have to love 'em too. and do you seriously think that dogs enjoy that environment? geez.

jonas_opines 5 years, 4 months ago

"What's not been mentioned is that some people are terribly allergic to dogs, and that might be a serious problem for them."

Some people are probably allergic to patchoulli, so we probably ought to ban hippies, too. Others are allergic to perfume and cologne, so that leaves out old people.

kistie3 5 years, 4 months ago

I love taking my daughter to the farmers market where she can have a chance to interact with dogs. I think Lawrence has many responsible dog owners and we love to interact with them

headdoctor 5 years, 4 months ago

"God I love the smell of fresh dog slobbers and or wet dog in the morning." NOT!

I have no problem with dogs but even the best behaved ones don't belong in a crowd of strangers. Add kids and food into the equation and it is even worse. I wonder how many of the people who think their dog should be allowed everywhere they are, are ready to pony up the money for the legal and or medical bills when one of those very well behaved dogs takes a chunk out of someone. Perhaps it is those type of owners that should be on a leash or fitted with a shock collar.

The last time I was at the Saturday Farmers market a good share of the dogs there were of the nervous, high strung variety not including the ones that could have been broke to ride. How responsible is that for an owner to bring a dog like that into a crowd that will only make their condition worse? A nervous dog is nothing more than an accident waiting for somewhere to happen.

Steve Bunch 5 years, 4 months ago

On the other hand, an enterprising farmer might start providing choice cuts of organic dog meat at the market. I understand that shoulder of Lab can be quite good if prepared right. It would be a welcome addition to the emu and bison meats currently available.

motomom 5 years, 4 months ago

i find this kinda funny----if lawrence would have said NO to dogs at farmer's market, there would have been an uproar........so now they say "yes...they are welcome" and that's not the right answer either. damned if ya do, damned if ya don't, lawrence! personally, i think they add a nice touch to the market. :O)

BMI 5 years, 4 months ago

Absolutely right on consumer1. Women didn't belong in the work force, they were at home raising the children, making life pleasant and tidy where they belong. That left them the opportunity to leave the children at the neighbors or relatives for shopping trips and errands such as these. You simply didn't have this sort of disrespectful display of proliferation where it doesn't belong. Children were seen at home, in church on Sunday sitting respectfully quiet in the pew, and in school. We need to take a step back and regain our America.

jonas_opines 5 years, 4 months ago

"so now they say "yes...they are welcome" and that's not the right answer either. damned if ya do, damned if ya don't, (reality)!"

Fixed that for you.

flux 5 years, 4 months ago

You stepped on three dogs? I'm sorry but just makes you kinda of stupid.

somedude20 5 years, 4 months ago

worse than just a troll he is George Bush's troll and that is saying a hell of a lot!!!

pooter 5 years, 4 months ago

It's a win-win situation, especially for those venders that don't like money as much as they like dogs.

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gatekeeper 5 years, 4 months ago

So many idiots on here. Yes, if you don't have a well trained dog you shouldn't take them down there. Same goes for taking a dog anywhere. Bea - because I take my dog to places like the OUTDOOR market doesn't mean he goes everywhere or owns me and he not a beast - he's just a nice dog that deserves to get out of the house an experience things too. Those of us that have very well trained and behaved dogs should have the right to take them to outdoor public places. My dog is always on a leash when we go to the market, even though he doesn't need to be because he is fully trained to stay at my side at all times whether he's on a leash or not. My dog goes to get dog treats and bones that are sold there (many vendors sell items for dogs). He gets a lot of love from the vendors and patrons of the market and it gives us a chance to walk around downtown Sat mornings. I buy a lot of produce and get my eggs from there. There's no reason why I shouldn't be able to do my shopping with my well behaved pet.

If someone brings a dog that isn't under control and behaved, then they need to be asked to leave. Those of us that are responsible shouldn't have to suffer because others refuse to take the time to properly train theirs.

I'm sure some vendors that sell pet items weren't happy about the thought of them banning dogs. Loss of business.

I have seen a lot more unruley, out of control kids than I have seen dogs. Why don't the parents that allow their kids to touch all the produce (after they've been picking their nose, playing with junk on the ground, etc....) and allow them to run wild get told to leave their brats at home? I will advise to always wash produce you get there very well because I have witnessed kids wiping snot and then picking up food there.

monkey_c 5 years, 4 months ago

Trol...I don't care if dogs are allowed or not, but I do feel like stepping on your toes.

ToriFreak13 5 years, 4 months ago

lol @ if your dog is polite or well trained. The point is it's a food market...not a dog park/show. Last thing we need is dog barking, fighting, pooping (which you are going to tell me you will stop to pick up between handling food!?! HELL to the NO!), peeing, buttsniffing, family reunions lets sit and chat it up all day in front of the tomatoes! Move along!

ozzynbn 5 years, 4 months ago

sedhe and the rest of "its about me" people..... You dog doesn't belong at the Farmers Market. It's a shopping place, not a viewing stage. You know as well as I do why you take your pets there. You want to be "seen". Its a pitiful way of attracting attention for yourself.

Take your pet to South Park where your ilk consolidate. That's where you belong.

gatekeeper 5 years, 4 months ago

ToriFreak13 (anonymous) says… lol @ if your dog is polite or well trained. The point is it's a food market...not a dog park/show. Last thing we need is dog barking, fighting, pooping (which you are going to tell me you will stop to pick up between handling food!?! HELL to the NO!), peeing, buttsniffing, family reunions lets sit and chat it up all day in front of the tomatoes! Move along! //////////////////

Tori - you're an idiot and sound like a complete *ss.

It's an OUTDOOR market in a dirty parking lot. Get that through your head. It is not a sterile place and it's not the grocery store. There are bugs all over the place. Dirt, grime, etc...

When I take my dog downtown, I first take him to my backyard to do "his business". If there happened to be an accident and he pooped (if you pay attn to your dog you know if they're getting ready to do something like that and once again, a well trained dog doesn't just all of a sudden squat and take a &^%$), I would use a poop baggy (that I always have when my dog is with me) and would use the bag to pick it up and dispose of it. If you're intelligent enough to understand that how works, you'd know my hands aren't ever touching any cr*p. Do you think all that produce is clean? Ever been to a farm. The sellers aren't washing everything before they bring it to the market.

A well trained dog doesn't unnecessarily bark and my dog sure as hell doesn't just hike a leg anywhere he likes. I will again tell you there is a difference between a trained and untrained dog. Maybe you don't know that because you never had the brains to train yours. It does take intelligence, patience and time and it sounds like you're lacking in the first two.

It pretty much sounds like you hate everything about the market, so take your butt to the grocery store. Lots of people do chat at the market. It's a social situation. You see neighbors and friends and meet people. You must be a really fun person to hang with.

ozzynbn 5 years, 4 months ago

Gatekeeper, it is you indeed, who is the ass. Food is being sold. Your dog doesn't need to be there. Why are you so insistant that it be allowed? Can't you attract attention to yourself without the help of an animal? If you can, then do so without taking your dog.

Your lack of intelligence seems to not notice that fresh baked goods are offered up at the farmers market and I don't want to take a chance of your dogs hair, or your probable unkemptness too, getting into the food.

So, take your butt to the dog parks and hang there with fido. The market is for selling goods. Its not meant to be your hangout. You're probably one of the dozens of loiterers I see there often. Move along now.....

Deja Coffin 5 years, 4 months ago

I've never been to the Lawrence Farmers Market but will hopefully get to go this year and I'll leave my dog at home but probably won't care one way or the other if someone else brings their dog. If you bring your dog, watch your dog... if you bring your kids, watch your kids, etc. There wouldn't be an issue if we worried more about ourselves and less about what the guy next to us is doing.

BMI 5 years, 4 months ago

consumer1, No, no problem here. I thought your idea for some Friday Flame War Fun was a good idea and thought I'd see if that would help take some over the top. I didn't realize you'd gotten your new $300 jumping shoes already buddy. Nice height you're getting with those! Have a good weekend, I suspect you'll be on the bike by 6pm. Ride safe Everyone. :)

localgirl9 5 years, 4 months ago

I LOVE Farmer's Market. I do not love dogs. I do not love people who take their dogs EVERYWHERE. I would prefer to not have dogs at Market. That being said, I also totally understand why people bring their dogs out on a gorgeous Saturday morning to walk around downtown, shop at the Farmer's Market and enjoy themselves. I have had more positive dog experiences downtown than negative. I think that as long as people are not afraid to call out an inattentive dog owner things can work out fine. Yes, some mornings it is CRAZY CROWDED...and to be quite honest, the kiddos can be more trouble than the pets. But if the dogs are leashed and under control I say yay. Farmer's Market can and should reserve the right to ask ANYONE to leave for ANY reason as well. Sooo if you bring your dog, and if they misbehave and you are asked to leave, get out. Use your common sense people. If you and your dog show up and it is packed to the gills in there, maybe you should stroll around the block, see if it thins out...take the dog home and come back...bring your dog and a friend so you can each take turns dogsitting nearby when the Market itself is just too freaking crowded...keep the leash short. It's not rocket science people.

gatekeeper 5 years, 4 months ago

ozzy - I don't take my dog with me for attn. I do it because he likes to go there and get his weekly treats and bones. Yes, food is sold there. Your hair can get in the food. My dog is small and down at the level of all the dirt and grime. You think my dog will get the baked goods dirty, but the dirt and bugs would get to it first. And, those baked goods are in baggies, moron. that way, the dirt and bugs flying around don't get into them. I guess I didn't realize that the people selling baked goods had their product on the ground at dog level. Even the Cookie Lady sells dog treats there. The Lawrence Community Shelter sells pet treats and they love to sample them to the visiting dogs.

Loiterers???? So, people aren't allowed to go the market, talk to people they know, get a bite to eat, listen to the music, etc....? I'll say it again, it's not a grocery store.

There are some really sad people in this town. Oh my god, people may hang out downtown at the market and enjoying themselves. Call the police.

It should be up to those that run the market and the vendors. And they made their decision. If you don't like it, don't go.

Mike Hatch 5 years, 4 months ago

I agree with Dejacrew423's comment of "If you bring your dog, watch your dog... if you bring your kids, watch your kids, etc."

I grew up on a farm outside of Lawrence and growing up, had a garden every year so I know vegetables don't grow on trees already in the can and meat doesn't grow in cellophane-wrapped packages. Planting, fertilizing, tending, picking crops of any kind is no picnic and all in all, a pretty dirty job from start to finish. If one is so concerned about sanitation, wonder why they are shopping at a Farmers Market in the first place. But I really don't see what the big deal is either way. Not something I'd spend a great deal of time getting excited about. It's been a while since I went to the Farmers Market downtown but the people who were selling baked goods generally had their wares wrapped up in some sort of plastic.

workinghard 5 years, 4 months ago

Hmm--wonder if I could make any money setting up a doggie stroller rental booth there. You know the kind with the zippered net around it to keep the dog in.

pooter 5 years, 4 months ago

I don't mind dogs, thats what pepper spray is for.

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georgeofwesternkansas 5 years, 4 months ago

I knew Lawrence was weird, but I did not know you sold dog at the farmers market.

What breed is the tastiest??

sinks 5 years, 4 months ago

Compairing a parent pushing a double stroller through the sidewalk with someone taking their dog to the farmers market is a bit much. I only push my double stroller, which by the way is not a "double wide" through the sidewalk sale is because I have twins, I have no choice, would you rather I try to manage two strollers? How about I just say screw the stroller and let 'em run around?

Steve Bunch 5 years, 4 months ago

As mentioned above, I've heard Labradors are tasty if prepared and seasoned properly. The small breeds tend to be tough and are best either braised or ground for patties. Beagle brisket is said to be good. If you're having a big cookout, a St. Bernard all dressed out on a spit is nice. Besides breed, other variables to consider are free range vs. caged, organic vs. hormone- and antibiotic-treated.

honestone 5 years, 4 months ago

Leave your slobbery, unsocialized dogs and children at home. You might even want to consider leaving that slob of a spouse at home too

ToriFreak13 5 years, 4 months ago

lol @ gatekeeper and namecalling...actually..lmao...Not only do you not deserve to take your dog to the farmers market..you shouldn't be allowed to roam the streets of Lawrence. Wal Mart sells dog treats too...do you take your dog there? The food there doesn't touch the dirty parking lot as much as your grimey hands after picking up poop will. To think your dog sets the standard of all the potential K-9s that will show up there is ludacris! Get over yourself and your mutt. The majority is against allowing dogs so you lose. http://www2.ljworld.com/photos/2009/may/03/169944/ This says it all....NO...NO.....NOOOO!

Mike Hatch 5 years, 4 months ago

There's a poll on this site asking pretty much the same thing and as of right now, the results are pretty much even, with those voting 'no' ahead by one percent.

http://www2.ljworld.com/polls/2010/apr/dogs/results/

What's the big uproar about dog mess? Uhmmm...what do you think those fruits and vegetables were probably grown in? Dog, horse, pig or cow...it's all pretty much the same. You should wash all fresh produce, regardless of where you buy it.

I know this is a terribly important issue and deserves hours of debate, but it just might be time to try to pick up the pieces and go on with the rest of our lives ;)

workinghard 5 years, 4 months ago

Blowing a silent dog whistle might be funny since nobody would know. But seriously maybe having hand sanitizer or wipes at the booths would help. Would certainly be the considerate thing for the dog owners to use.

ozzynbn 5 years, 4 months ago

gatekeeper, don't try to slide me any BS about how your dog likes going there. It would rather sniff butt in a public park. It's you who wants the attention. And let me remind you, idiot, that there are some baked goods open, without wrappings. I seen countless pies, cookies, samples of various foods, without covering. I worry more about your cleanliness than your dog. Perhaps neither of you belong there.

jonas_opines 5 years, 4 months ago

The owners and operators of the event have made their decision, nbnozzy. The way I see it, you have a choice now: either vote with your dollar like a good conservative and hope you're special interest is enough to sway the decision, or continue to whine and tell others what to do, like a dirty liberal.

After all, I would think that if anyone knows about a vocal minority attempting to disrupt the will of a business effort, it would be you, Naughty But Nice Ozzy.

*political assumptions reflect only the views of the intended and states target individual.

Robert Rauktis 5 years, 4 months ago

Good...I see there is no problem with horses!

BrianR 5 years, 4 months ago

My dog is really well-behaved but he has a conceal carry license and I never know when he's packin' so I don't take him out into crowded places very often.

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