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Lawrence manufacturer to close next year

Sauer-Danfoss, the maker of hydraulic power systems in the East Hills Business Park, announced Monday that it plans to close its manufacturing plant in Lawrence by the end of June.

Sauer-Danfoss, the maker of hydraulic power systems in the East Hills Business Park, announced Monday that it plans to close its manufacturing plant in Lawrence by the end of June.

September 21, 2009, 5:00 p.m. Updated September 21, 2009, 6:31 p.m.


Firm's activities in Lawrence

• 1997: Sauer-Sundstrand Co., a German-based manufacturer, announces plans to invest more than $30 million in building a production plant in Lawrence’s East Hills Business Park.

• 1999: Plant opens in January, and by summer 45 employees are making pumps and other items for off-road equipment. In September, parent company Sauer Inc. announces plans to merge with Danfoss Fluid Power, a Danish company, resulting in the formation of Sauer-Danfoss Inc.

• 2006-07: Plant had 280 workers at height of construction boom.

• 2008: Plant manager announces plans to reduce shifts, affecting about 50 of plant’s 150 employees.

• 2009: In January officials say they’ll cut 20 jobs, the first among 40 job losses up until Monday’s announcement that the plant would be closing by the end of June.

Sauer Danfoss to close its doors

Sauer Danfoss announced it will close its doors by the end of June of next year. The closing of the Lawrence manufacturer will eliminate about 100 jobs. Enlarge video

Sauer-Danfoss Inc. will close its Lawrence production plant by the end of June, leaving 100 people without jobs in the city and listing another major site in the East Hills Business Park for sale.

The company announced Monday that it would be closing the 165,000-square-foot plant at 3840 Greenway Drive, citing a massive downturn in sales for the motors and transmissions produced there.

Job cuts won’t begin until after the first of the year, and eligible employees will receive severance packages generally equal to one week’s pay for each year of company service, said Matt Bendler, human resources director for the company’s Americas and Asia Pacific Regions.

Fewer than 25 employees will be offered transfers to other Sauer-Danfoss plants. Equipment used to make motors and transmissions used in off-road equipment — from large implements to heavy-duty lawnmowers — will be moved from Lawrence to larger plants in Ames, Iowa, and Freeport, Ill.

Driving the Lawrence closure: The company’s sales are down nearly 50 percent from the $2.1 billion recorded last year, Bendler said. Employee count is down by nearly 40 percent, as the company closed two other plants and has steadily shed workers: 40 so far this year in Lawrence, and another 400 during the past 12 months in Ames.

The decision to close the Lawrence plant has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with size, Bendler said. While the site had 280 employees as recently as 2006-07, the decision to move its operations to larger sites makes economic sense.

“This is heartbreaking for us all,” said Bendler, who is in Lawrence this week to meet with employees. “It’s a wonderful facility, with absolutely fantastic employees. … We’re trying to come up with ways to be as creative as we can get, but unfortunately there are only so many pure layoffs we can do. Then it’s plant closures.”

Sauer-Danfoss expects to spend $9.8 million on the closure, to cover the costs of employee terminations and relocations, moving equipment to other plants and related costs. The building and site will be listed for sale, Bendler said.

Two other East Hills sites already are vacant, with owners seeking new businesses to move in:

l An 80,000-square-foot building that had been occupied by Progress Vanguard Corp., which had 55 employees working on parts for rail locomotives before closing earlier this year.

l A 45,000-square-foot building that had been built in 2004 for Serologicals Corp., but never entered full production of a cell-growth liquid used in research and pharmaceuticals applications. The property has been for sale since early 2006.

Tom Kern, president of the Lawrence Chamber of Commerce, said the chamber would provide assistance to Sauer-Danfoss as the “great company and great corporate partner” moves toward a transition.

“It’s an unfortunate outcome of the economic climate that we’re presently in,” Kern said. “It’s not just Detroit and the auto industry. It’s everywhere.”

But Lawrence has five or six prospects considering East Hills, Kern said, and — unlike in past years — there now are sites available.

“There is some interest in East Hills and businesses coming to Lawrence,” Kern said. “We continue to look forward and I feel positive about the future.”


Sulla 8 years, 2 months ago

Gee, I wonder if their tax abatement also had its sunset as well??

Christine Anderson 8 years, 2 months ago

Oh no. More families wondering how to keep roofs over their heads and food on the table. Bad thing here.

imastinker 8 years, 2 months ago

It looks like merrill got what he/she/it wanted. Sauer Danfoss is no longer a "drain" on the local economy.

It's interesting though - we use some of their pumps at work and I had no idea they were there. I might have specified them if I had known.

Matthew Herbert 8 years, 2 months ago

Good job of reporting on this one. Read the article and you STILL have no idea what this company manufactured.

RogueThrill 8 years, 2 months ago

blame obama


I blame you.

olddesk 8 years, 2 months ago

Like I said back in February when they started the layoffs, when you have a company come into town and will not bring the payroll, R&D and top management to the plant then you have a bedroom employer. As soon as the free money is gone and the first sign of a down turn they run back to their homes and leave us high and dry. This city had better wake up.

Brandon Graham 8 years, 2 months ago

I'm a conservative Republican that firmly believes in hard work and capitalism. I have no idea how one comes up with "blame Obama" for this or any other economic disappointment taking place in communities across the country.

I don't agree with much of the President's ideas or agendas, but he is not the cause of the economic meltdown we have endured the last two years.

knowyourfacts 8 years, 2 months ago

i dont blame him...its sarcasm, but if george bush was still in office, the liberals would spin it to be his fault.

Sulla 8 years, 2 months ago

I know people who have worked for Sauer and management there is as treacherous as they come, so good riddance. Sauer-Danfoss believes in "hard work and capitalism" too - employees work hard for chump change so management capitalists don't have to, that is...

ralphralph 8 years, 2 months ago

Haven't they heard the recession's over?

Catalano 8 years, 2 months ago

Sulla and olddesk:

You hit the nail on the head. I think that S-D got in under the wire before the clawback provision for tax abatements was implemented. Why SHOULD they stay here at this point? Lawrence loses again. When will the city wake up and ditch the chamber of commerce being in charge of its economic development strategy? They haven't done a damn thing this entire decade. Really, they haven't.

AND, BigPrune: If you choose to blame the "progressives" for this one, give some backup. You are one old, tired record. Think "merrill".

Sigmund 8 years, 2 months ago

"The company announced Monday that it would be closing the 165,000-square-foot plant at 3840 Greenway Drive, citing a massive downturn in sales for the motors and transmissions produced there."

"Equipment used to make motors and transmissions used in off-road equipment — from large implements to heavy-duty lawnmowers — will be moved from Lawrence to larger plants in Ames, Iowa, and Freeport, Ill."

Renaissance (Anonymous) says… "Good job of reporting on this one. Read the article and you STILL have no idea what this company manufactured."

Me neither. I have no idea whatsoever.

Sigmund 8 years, 2 months ago

Sulla (Anonymous) says… "Sauer-Danfoss believes in “hard work and capitalism” too - employees work hard for chump change so management capitalists don't have to, that is…"

Well then it is good they are leaving and will have no impact on the workers or the economy. In fact I think we should close every company you think pays chump change and usher in the workers paradise.

davidsmom 8 years, 2 months ago

The article clearly states what the company manufactures. "...citing a massive downturn in sales for the motors and transmissions produced there...Equipment used to make motors and transmissions used in off-road equipment..."

Beth Bird 8 years, 2 months ago

Awesome! More local unemployment! Just what we needed.....

BigPrune 8 years, 2 months ago

Catalano, I'm sorry but I don't think we've met on the blogs.

Progressive implimented restrictions for tax abatements have created the job stagnation this community has experienced for the past decade and now the national economy is in the tank. Look, having a non-Living Wage Law in place took us right off the map for potential employers. If there is 20 acres of farmland paying $1500 a year in agricultural property taxes and some company wants to buy this land and build a $20 Million plant and employ 600 workers and requests a 10 year property tax abatement, how much is Lawrence really losing? It is easy to surmise the City would only benefit. You don't have to be a brain surgeon to see my point. American Eagle Outfitters were run out on a rail and Ottawa picked them up. Their average workers make more than the required minimum living wage law Lawrence.

Is it safe to say the majority of the anti-capitalist/anti-property tax abatement people work for KU, yet KU doesn't have to pay any property taxes.

Does anyone in this town have common sense? Stop the insanity!!!

If Obama wasn't constantly all over the place proposing this and proposing that and wanting to change everything inside out, maybe the citizens of this country wouldn't be living on the edge of their seats wondering, "what's next?" Is it because he has ADHD?

croutons 8 years, 2 months ago

I particularly like how the caption for the photograph paints such an optomistic picture in the face of what the actual article says.

Oh, and it's "Fewer thAn 25 employees"

Sparko 8 years, 2 months ago

The present economy has a lot to do with the last eight years. And those buffoons who think health care costs and other enormous over-head burdens are the fault of progressives are simply dullards. Conservatives don't seem to have any answers. What happens after you have cut out all taxes and public services? And still they leave. We need to make Kansas an attractive investment ant not merely an expansive Wal-Mart.

Catalano 8 years, 2 months ago

Oh BigPrune:

You really don't have a clue what really went down with American Eagle, do you? You just seem to believe all the hype and B.S. that Marilyn and Kelvin and Sue and the chamber-elites toss out. You're pathetic. Or maybe you are Marilyn or Kelvin or Sue. Either way, still pathetic.

blindedbyscience 8 years, 2 months ago

Lawrence is out in the middle of nowhere. No large manufacturing facility is ever going to succeed there unless it is tractors or combines. It is just a university town in the boondocks. Lawrence makes Detroit look fabulous. I thought I saw where KU was ranked 96th in the country in terms of universities. You reap what you sow. The Kansas Bioscience Authority can dump all the money they want and it will just be wasted. It would be better to leave that cash with the taxpayers in the first place. A few years ago, it was Oread Labs that bit the dust. It is just one mess after another. You can't translate a good basketball team into anything else, except perhaps selling T-shirts.

Sunny Parker 8 years, 2 months ago

I thought Obamy was supposed to be creating jobs? Where are the jobs?

BigPrune 8 years, 2 months ago

Oh, I remember very well. It's when the kooks of our community got a foothold on Lawrence's policy making. A dark time in our history indeed. It's also the time the Chamber tried to reach out and build a consensus with the kooks of our community. The problem is they lost all their credibility.

ku_tailg8 8 years, 2 months ago

Well, at the very least, the employees are getting some heads up a few months ahead of time that they are going to be let go. I know it stinks but I have seen layoffs where people go to lunch like any other day and an hour later they don't have a job.

mr_right_wing 8 years, 2 months ago

Has our Obamassiah forsaken us?

Can't he step in and take over?

Of course we are talking about another one of those big evil, mean, nasty, heartless corporations that you socialists riddance, right?

Sunny Parker 8 years, 2 months ago

I thought unemployment in Kansas was down and looking up?

Huh? Wait...Obamy promised new jobs...where are they?

jimmyjms 8 years, 2 months ago

"Please explain how a socialist agenda can have any other effect than to create stagnation and apathy in an economy. "

Dear God, teh stupid, it hurts.

Was GW Bush a socialist, my exceedingly dim friend? Care to venture a guess as to what the market did in the last year of his admin vs the first eight months of Obama's?

grimpeur 8 years, 2 months ago

jimmyjms gets the cigar.

Don't waste your time chiseling through the stupid, my friend. The ossification is profound, pandemic (Wilson, Beck, this board) and very, very dense. And don't expect an answer, let alone an accurate one.

chicagohawk83 8 years, 2 months ago

I love how people in lawrence think tax abatements are an abomination. If I am not mistaken SD ran through their abatement 4 or more years ago. They employed something like 250 people until the downturn last year. They built a multimillion dollar facility using local contractors. Lawrence will be in the red for years to come because of the lack if build up in the in the business tax base. Abatement or not they payed taxes where as the largest employer in the city pays no property taxes and owns half of lawrence.

Unitl lawrence becomes business attractive the home owners and will continue to shoulder the growing burden of growing expenses.

Thank god KU athletics is a tourist draw.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 8 years, 2 months ago

All this political bs makes me sick. Obama or no other government official had nothing to do with this so you Republican jerks can put a cork in it. The company manufactures mechanical parts for vehicles that no one is buying. If no one buys or keeps what they have and make it do, it certainly isn't the place of the president to step in and dictate that every farmer and business buy new equipment they cannot afford. All this crap is just more Republican Limbaugh drivel, soreheads who's party lost because of Caribou Barbie, and now want to make a lot of whining and blubbering noises trying to foist the blame off on the new president.

Sulla 8 years, 2 months ago

Yeah Lawrenceguy40...the work ethic is the key to prosperity huh? Centuries old con and its suckers keep spewing it.Hard work in itself never made anyone rich....oh socialism has failed in Scandinavia so much that we here in the USA are overwhelmed with illegal immigrants from Sweden and Norway fleeing from collectivist socialist impoverishment and tyranny.. they want to get get rich working at fast food joints that entitle them to nothing....

pace 8 years, 2 months ago

And they say the wingnuts don't have a good gasp of the national economic problems. If you want healthy businesses quit feeding them on the government sugar and watch them get lean and mean by competitive practices. A lot of people who showed up for work and did their jobs will be handling this. The corporations won't be looking out for their former employees. We need to take care of the people in our community. Taxing them to pay for gravy for the next with their hand out corporation won't do them as much good as using taxes to maintain good infrastructure. That is the government's business, it has been on the back burner for too long. If we take our tax money and use it for jobs, use it to make decent jobs repairing years of neglect by the Chamber led City offices. Then pack it into education and healthcare so companies will come here to avail themselves of a good work force, not for the sugar doled by the City.

mr_right_wing 8 years, 2 months ago

George W.....I wondered how long it would take a lib to regurgitate that tired excuse for everything.

I have a feeling that even if Obama makes it 8 years, Georgie-poo will still be the evil force behind EVERYTHING wrong.

I know you liberals like to blame everyone else but yourselves, couldn't you just PLEASE get a tiny bit more creative with it? Please?

Here, I'll even get your started with a freebie...SpongeBobSquarepants; it's HIS fault!

Richard Heckler 8 years, 2 months ago

What is ACORN ?

ACORN has not been charged, indicted nor are there plans for a grand jury investigation. It is another example of how much tax money the RINO party is capable of wasting over nothing. Usually the RINO party is obsessing over the sex life of someone. The RINO Bush/Cheney party loves explicit sexual affairs which displays how perverted this RINO party can be.

What is ACORN? It is an object to distract taxpayer voters from the many many more important matters of the day such as the nation losing 700,000 jobs a month while RINO's Bush/Cheney were in office. Obviously the entire RINO party supported americans losing jobs….8 million jobs in fact. That is 1,000,000 jobs per month each year the RINO Bush/Cheney party were in the White House. That is quite a remarkable achievement.

8 million jobs cannot be brought back to life in a matter of 180 days because so many went abroad. Restoring 8 million jobs may take 2 years. The fact is this nation needs 20 million new jobs. The 8 million are what was lost by the Bush/Cheney RINO party.

ACORN is also a tool to mask the second RINO party home loan scandal that managed to help put 8 million people out of work and destroyed the nations economy.

This home loan scandal like the Reagan/Bush home loan scandal destroyed millions of retirement accounts sending golden agers back into the work force. This is why medicare and Social Security are sooooo important. Yep you never know when the RINO party will strike again.

Richard Heckler 8 years, 2 months ago

Yes it is correct. It is my opinion that Lawrence,Kansas cannot afford tax incentives.

Why? Because it places the burden on all other taxpayers. Lawrence STILL cannot afford to give out "free lunches". Tax incentives have proved to be a menace to economic growth as the "tax incentive vultures" prowl around looking for their next prey aka innocent taxpayers.

Tax incentives aka free lunches should be scrapped. Tax incentives merely help people off their real estate. In real life they are tax increases to any community. When can any community afford to give away tax dollars?

jumpin_catfish 8 years, 2 months ago

Recession is over! Oh, Obama and Co are all liars. 1216 days until Nobama!

Ernest Barteldes 8 years, 2 months ago

Kansas helped keep Bush elected for eight years while he pretty much ran the economy amok. When it comes to facing the consequences, don't go blaming the current administration. It will take years to clean up this mess.

Randall Barnes 8 years, 2 months ago


Steve Miller 8 years, 2 months ago

rando hit it on the head, the city scorned farmaland, now who are they going to deny residence??

Bryan Moore 8 years, 2 months ago

"Employee count is down by nearly 40 percent, as the company closed two other plants and has steadily shed workers: 40 so far this year in Lawrence, and another 400 during the past 12 months in Ames."

So the company started laying off people 12 months ago and Obama has been in office 8 months and was elected 10 months ago. That means by some on here's logic SD knew 2 months before the election that Obama would win and his "socialist" policies would be their real problem, not the gobal recession. You can hate on Obama all you want but placing the blame for a little company in Lawrence/Ames going under on him is just plain stupid. I am going to start calling the Republicans the "Catch 22 Party". If a companies go under and the unemployment numbers go up and the President doesn't step in - it's Obamas fault because he hasn't turned the economy around in 8 months - if he does something to help the company he's taking over the economy! Face it, this is a local or at best a state problem.

Mr Right wing "I have a feeling that even if Obama makes it 8 years, Georgie-poo will still be the evil force behind everything wrong.

I know you liberals like to blame everyone else but yourselves, couldn't you just PLEASE get a tiny bit more creative with it? Please?"

Funny it's September 22 and it's ALL Obamas fault and yet I constantly hear conservatives say September 11th was Clintons fault. Evidently responsibility starts somewhere between 9/11 and 9/22 of the first year of the Presidents term. Could you please let me know what this cut-off date is? I know you like to blame every body but your side but could you get a little more creative please?

Joe Hyde 8 years, 2 months ago

I'm very sorry that so many Lawrence, and Lawrence-area, residents are losing their jobs and income due to the closing of this plant. I'm sure the losses are hard on the company's management people as well.

Judging from the photo of the production floor, you can see that the Sauer-Danfoss facility was being maintained and operated in a clean, squared-away fashion -- evidence that everyone involved took pride in their work.

Joe Hyde 8 years, 2 months ago

My apology for writing "took pride in their work" (past tense); "takes pride" (present tense) says it right.

kjo_shorty 8 years, 2 months ago

A lot of wonderful employees are now facing unemployment at the hands of Sauer. I know several of them personally and wish them all nothing but the best in their future endeavors and much luck in quickly finding new employment.

beatrice 8 years, 2 months ago

azjh: "Funny it's September 22 and it's ALL Obamas fault and yet I constantly hear conservatives say September 11th was Clintons fault. Evidently responsibility starts somewhere between 9/11 and 9/22 of the first year of the Presidents term. Could you please let me know what this cut-off date is?"

Now that was worth repeating!

lawrenceguy40: "Barry O tells people that they do not have to work because the government will pay for everything they need by taxing the rich. The people believe this socialist lie, productivity falls due to a lack of incentive and the economy suffers."

How sad that you just have to make up lies, really, really stupid lies at that, in order to make some point that you don't like our President because a local plant closed. (I'm sure you also blamed Bush when GM was closing plants throughout the country during his tenure, correct?) If you aren't a liar -- and you are just that, a liar -- then please supply a source where the President said people don't have to work. You can't because you are nothing but a liar who even lacks the imagination to at least call Obama the anti-Christ. I mean, if you are going to lie, go big!

jumpin-c, keep counting down. I'm sure when you get to zero that is the day your head explodes after Obama easily wins re-election.

Palin / Jindal 2012 -- Keep Hope Alive, neocons, Keep Hope Alive!

Richard Heckler 8 years, 2 months ago

So KCK is doing well giving away tax dollars?

How does anyone know it is doing well?

How much did all of that cost the taxpayers in addition to any tax incentives.

Why would anyone provide a "Free Lunch" to high profit industries?

Sports arenas usually cost taxpayers plenty to support high rollin atlhlete salaries.

Richard Heckler 8 years, 2 months ago

“Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (And Stick You with the Bill).” Johnston reveals how government subsidies and new regulations have quietly funneled money from the poor and the middle class to the rich and politically connected.

"George Steinbrenner is getting over $600 million for the new Yankee Stadium in New York. The New York Mets are getting over $600 million. In fact, the City of New York gave them money to lobby against the taxpayers to get more money. Rudy Giuliani gave $50 million to the two teams for that purpose.

The new owners of the Washington Nationals baseball team in Washington, D.C., paid $450 million for the team. But, in fact, they got the team for free, because the subsidy they’re getting for the new stadium is worth $611 million. We actually paid these people to buy the team.

Now, in this country right now, we are spending $2 billion a year subsidizing the big four sports: baseball, basketball, football and hockey. It accounts for all of the profits of that industry and more. Now, there may be individual teams that make money, but the industry as a whole is not profitable. And that’s astonishing because the big four leagues are exempt from the laws of competition. By the way, irony is not dead, because here are people who are in the business of competition on the field who are exempted by law from the rules of economic competition. "

Richard Heckler 8 years, 2 months ago

" You know, when you buy a home—and I remember the first time I did it as a young man—you have this enormous sense of accomplishment, and you sit down in a room, and they throw all these papers at you—“Sign this, sign this, initial this page, OK, sign this.” So when you’re all done, you get a little sheet listing all the costs you have, and you get dinged for $15 here and $25 there.

But there’s one big item called land title insurance. If you buy a $200,000 house, it will probably cost you close to $1,000. Well, it turns out that ninety cents out of every dollar you are forced to pay for this goes to pay commercial bribes. And this goes on all throughout the industry all across the United States, and nobody is prosecuted for it.

And here’s what happens. Well, you wrote the check for the $1,000, the land title insurance companies, who are insuring the risk that someone will come along and say, “That’s really my piece of land,” or “I have the right to put an oil well in your backyard. Here’s this document from 1848,” or your new outbuilding encroaches one inch onto the neighbor’s land, supposedly. That’s what you are insuring against.

These companies’ real customers are the real-estate agent that you thought was representing you or the lawyer you paid to represent you or the mortgage broker who arranged to get you the mortgage, because they steer you to the title company. And in return, they get kickbacks. "

georgiahawk 8 years, 2 months ago

Can this really be any one persons fault? The politicizing of everything that happens coupled with this highly questionable blame game just deteriates all of the "blame Obama" arguments to a petty level that makes it hard to take seriously.

Richard Heckler 8 years, 2 months ago

Now we're talking Lawrence,Kansas.....

"And this is a good example of where the news media hasn’t done a good job. I have tons of news clips that say, oh, this new shopping mall is coming or a new Wal-Mart or a new Cabela’s store, and thanks to tax increment financing, this store is going to be built. Well, what is tax increment financing? I’ll tell you what it is. You go to the store with your goods, you pay for it at Wal-Mart, and there’s a very good chance that that store has made a deal with the government that the sales taxes you are required to pay, that government requires you to pay, never go to the government. Instead, those sales taxes are kept by Wal-Mart and used to pay the cost of the store. And typically in those deals, the store is tax exempt, just like a church.

Now, there are two ways that it’s important to think about this. One is, that means your kid’s schools, your police department, your library, your parks are not getting that money. And you’ll notice we keep saying we’re starved for money.

We’re twice as wealthy as we were in 1980, but we’ve got to close hospitals, and we’ve got to close schools, and we don’t have money for all sorts of things like after-school programs, even though we’re twice as wealthy.

The second thing to think about is, imagine that you own Amy Goodman’s or Juan’s department store across the street. You suddenly have to compete with people whom the government is giving a huge leg up on. You think you would go broke after a while? Well, in fact, you will.

And I tell about a man named Jim Weaknecht who owned a little store in the Poconos of Pennsylvania. He sold fishing tackle, hunting gear, stuff like that. And the way he made his living in his little tiny store, enough that he was able to have his wife stay at home and raise their three kids full time, was by charging less than a company called Cabela’s. Well, then Cabela’s came to town. This little city of 4,000 people made a deal to give Cabela’s $36 million to build a store. That’s more than the city budget for that town for ten years. It’s $8,000 for every man, woman, and child in that town to have this store. And even though he charged lower prices, he was pretty quickly run out of business.

That’s not market capitalism, which is what Ronald Reagan said he was going to bring us. He said, you know, government’s the problem, we need markets as a solution. Well, that’s not the market. That’s corporate socialism. And what we’ve gotten is corporate socialism for the politically connected rich—not all the rich, the politically connected rich—and market capitalism for everybody else. "

Ricky_Vaughn 8 years, 2 months ago

Is this 1960? I thought McCarthyism died a long time ago. You Republicans are paranoid with all this "red scare" crap.

beatrice 8 years, 2 months ago

When more than just a few have wealth, that equals telling people not to work? Our collective salvation as a nation also equals telling people not to work?That isn't just stretching the truth, that is imagining the ridiculous.

Lg40, you are just telling ridiculous lies (very anti-Christian of you, I might add) and making things to fit your little box of a world. "If you don't like work ..." Spare me this nonsense that only Christian conservatives are the ones working in the country. What an asinine thing to write. It is as stupid as Palin saying that only small-town America counts as "real America." No wonder your kind have been marginalized politically and are falling further and further out of popularity.

Quit telling lies Lg40. As Joseph Welch said to Senator McCarthy: "Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"

Ricky_Vaughn 8 years, 2 months ago

Don't forget why Obama got elected in the first place. Because people that think like lawrenceguy40 are in the MINORITY!!

Your politicians had 8 years of free reign and look where we are now. You had your chance, now step aside. It's time for new ideas rather than the status quo. Suck it up and deal with it!!

Sulla 8 years, 2 months ago

You're a barrell of laughs Lawrenceguy40...all the Scandinavian countries have single payer health insurance(socialist);Norway shares its oil wealth with its citizens(socialist), and they have the good ol progressive income tax, what we used to have here. And to top it off, rich people do live in Denmark and Sweden, contrary to what you may have heard from corporate funded blathermouths and those Free Market Bolsheviks at the Cato Institute.

beatrice 8 years, 2 months ago

You are anything but a patriot. You are just a punk and I suspect the "40" in your logon is actually your I.Q.. You hate America and you hate Americans when they practice their right to vote in a way that doesn't agree with your distorted and foolish world view. Self-loathing? Hardly. Only loathing I see around here is your loathing of America.

Why do I have the feeling that if McCain had won the election you would be trying to claim that the economy is fundamentally sound today?

Be careful of lunatics.

olddesk 8 years, 2 months ago

If properly used tax abatements can be good for the community however the community has to get off its ego trip and look at the community as a whole. In the past if it didn't benefit down town or KU then it didn't happen because as we were told they didn't pay enough. ego, ego, ego. But I guess it is alright for a company to come in to town and not really bring all of its resources here, I would think the banks would want payroll here and not from corporate headguarters, but I guess when you've been wined and dined enough along with the smoke and mirrors you'll say yes if it fluffs the ego.

7texdude 8 years, 2 months ago

jumpin_catfish (Anonymous) says…

Recession is over! Oh, Obama and Co are all liars. 1216 days until Nobama!

Do you honestly believe that if John McCain was president, that plant would not have closed? Or that Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin could fix the economy in 2 years? And how does the U.S. President help or hurt the Lawrence economy?

Yeehaw! Let's play the blamegame. That's the only thing Americans are good at now. Arguing who is at fault for the crap in the toilet that is our country and our town. And while we are bickering, 100 families will not spend a dime unless it is absolutely necessary. I bet they are putting their houses up for sale or for rent, too. This is great for Lawrence, yea!

This has a ripple-down effect on a local economy that is struggling to begin with and everyone's answer is to argue national politics. It is horrible to watch Americans become dumber by the day. The solution to local problems is in this community, not in Washington D.C. You folks have zero common sense. None.

jayhawklawrence 8 years, 2 months ago

Maybe we should contact the "Manufacturing Czar" and ask him what to do.

I am sure that Ron Bloom, union lawyer and investment banker (whose money?) can fix it for us.

Then I think we need to contact some global economy experts from Mt. Oread and ask them where all those replacement jobs are.

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