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No second apology for ‘You lie’ outburst

September 14, 2009

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— One apology is enough, a digging-in-his-heels Rep. Joe Wilson said Sunday, challenging Democratic leaders who want him to say on the House floor that he’s sorry for yelling “You lie!” during President Barack Obama’s health care speech to Congress.

The leadership plans to propose a resolution of disapproval this week if the South Carolina Republican doesn’t publicly apologize to Congress. Such a measure would put lawmakers on the record as condemning those two words, uttered during last Wednesday’s prime-time speech, that have become a fundraising boon for the defiant Wilson and his Democratic challenger.

Wilson said a resolution would show that Democrats simply wanted to play politics and divert attention from a health care overhaul that is lagging in Congress.

“I am not going to apologize again. I apologized to the president on Wednesday night. I was advised then that, ’Thank you, now let’s get on to a civil discussion of the issues,”’ Wilson said. “I’ve apologized one time. The apology was accepted by the president, by the vice president, who I know. I am not apologizing again.”

In an interview taped Friday and broadcast Sunday evening, Obama said he accepted and appreciated Wilson’s apology, which was delivered through White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel. Obama said he preferred to move past the incident and focus on the broad health care overhaul.

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Pilgrim2 4 years, 7 months ago

KansasVoter (Anonymous) says…

You know, if a Democratic representative would have done what Addison Graves Wilson, Sr. did, we still wouldn't know which secret prison he was tortured to death in.


Bartender! Another round of Black Helicopters for everybody! KansasVoter is buying!

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remember_username 4 years, 7 months ago

Whatever Rep. Wilson said to Pres. Obama was sufficient as Pres. Obama accepted his apology. Does Rep. Wilson owe an apology to the House? To his party? To his constituents? I think demanding, even asking, Rep. Wilson to apologize to the other offended parties is pointless. Rep. Wilson was only representing those who voted him into office in the first place, and I'll bet most of the South Carolina Republicans that put him in office feel as he does. Thus, if he apologizes further he would not be representing those who elected him.

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jimmyjms 4 years, 7 months ago

Yeah, "boo-hoo" catfish.

It's amazing that you have absolutely zero compunction about republicans lying about everything under the sun.

I mean, who cares (as long as your team wins).

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jumpin_catfish 4 years, 7 months ago

Oh poor wounded liberals, cry me river. The demorats booed Bush and so what, it did make a hill of beans to me. 1224 days until Nobama.

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jaywalker 4 years, 7 months ago

What jonas said. (there it is again!) I don't know about not apologizing at all, I know I was shocked when I heard it while watching the President. He apologized to those he should have. Congress needs to focus, Dems are going to use the incident as an excuse to freeze him out or push him to the margins in any bi-partisan conversations anyways. Insisting on another apology 'or else' is just as disingenuous as his original apology probably was.

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jimmyjms 4 years, 7 months ago

last line should say "a leader" not "the" leader (although Michael Steele is just about as pathetic).

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jimmyjms 4 years, 7 months ago

"I'll make no excuse for his disgusting breach of etiquette, but the congressman's assertion about the truthfulness of the President's remarks wasn't entirely wrong."

It's actually 100% wrong.

"Joe Wilson of South Carolina said Obama lied, but he didn't"

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/sep/09/joe-wilson/joe-wilson-south-carolina-said-obama-lied-he-didnt/

Furthermore, Addison Graves "Joe" Wilson voted to give illegal immigrants federally funded healthcare in 2003:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll332.xml

http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/1219-Joe-Wilson-Voted-to-Provide-Taxpayer-Money-for-Illegal-Immigrants-Healthcare

He also: Receives gov't funded healtcare, as do his sons Voted against healthcare for veterans (11 times) and Voted to cut veterans benefits in order to make room for the Bush tax cuts.

Tbaker - don't you get tired of having hypocritical morons like this guy as the leader of your political party?

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puddleglum 4 years, 7 months ago

the swift boat bozo's should have apologized also.

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KansasVoter 4 years, 7 months ago

You know, if a Democratic representative would have done what Addison Graves Wilson, Sr. did, we still wouldn't know which secret prison he was tortured to death in.

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Rex Russell 4 years, 7 months ago

For the love of God, let this go. This is stupid. Making a federal case out of a rude statement, is a was of taxpayer time. He apologized to the man personally. That should be it. I seriously doubt he meant it, but that is another matter. Congress behaves like children and is usually an embarrassment. Both sides. Move on and get back to work. Jerks are everywhere in life and you have to move around them to get anything constructive done. Get on with it.

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Tom Shewmon 4 years, 7 months ago

Thanks puddle, too lazy to look it up.

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Alexander Neighbors 4 years, 7 months ago

Rep. Joe Wilson does not apologizes more than once if you be black it doesnt matter if your the president of the united states

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 7 months ago

"and gushed with mia copas"

A nice chianti, perhaps?

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Tom Shewmon 4 years, 7 months ago

I appreciate your comments, jonas and a few others. You are right in the sense that it was a stupid outburst, and also in the sense that Democrats don't have the time to chase this one down. They have many bigger problems, within their party, to iron out. Any more missteps by the Dems are simply not to be afforded right now. If you're a Democrat that is. Maybe Wilson has Teret's (sp?)?

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tbaker 4 years, 7 months ago

The man has already apologized to the president, personally and in writing. He made the rounds on the Sunday talk shows and gushed with mia copas.

Since his apology has been accepted, wouldn't any further brouhaha on the subject be considered "bickering?" I thought the time for bickering was supposed to be over.

Any further congressional disciplinary action will reek of partisanship, and further divide an all-ready fractured congress. The dems need bipartisanship more than they need to flex their majority and publicly humiliate this guy in the well of the house floor. I think they'll wise up and realize they have much bigger fish to fry. This is a side-show that may well blow up in their face and they know it. They realize the longer this story stays in the news, the closer people will read whats in the proposed legislation and see the truth for themselves.

I'll make no excuse for his disgusting breach of etiquette, but the congressman's assertion about the truthfulness of the President's remarks wasn't entirely wrong.

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fancy80 4 years, 7 months ago

Yes, passing health care reform that includes truly adressing Tort Reform, creating and supporting State Insurance Marts (SIMs). Don't be content to just merely passing "Insurance" reform, which is what the current goal seems to be.

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puddleglum 4 years, 7 months ago

yeah just drop it...what's next? a kenneth star 'independent investigation'? rememeber how stupid that was. The wilson guy is a childish idiot, if the people of south carolina want to look stupid by having him be their representative, then fine by me-it is their right. they also cooked up other childish 'leaders' such as preston brooks.....my guess is that ol' wilson was trying hard to get some polarization going so he could have a chance in his upcoming election.

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meggers 4 years, 7 months ago

jonas,

You have it exactly right. If the democrats waste a bunch of legislative time censuring Wilson, they're going to look as bad as he does. Plus, he's capitalizing on his idiocy by reaching out to the fringe Obama-hating, death panel believing, xenophobic nut jobs that seem to be defining the right as of late. Not that he needed to extend his hand very far.

The dems need to just drop it and move on to more pressing business, like passing health care reform.

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fancy80 4 years, 7 months ago

If the President can accept his apology, why can't the rest of you Hipocrats?

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cheeseburger 4 years, 7 months ago

I am anticipating that the ACLU will take up the case of Joe Wilson as a case of protected free speech.

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jimmyjms 4 years, 7 months ago

Ah, yes. DailyKos, MoveOn.org and their ilk: not acceptable because they're "biased."

A Wall Street Journal opinion piece by a member of AEI?

No problem!

head hurting

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just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 7 months ago

I agree, just drop it. The Republicans have nothing to offer but their whining "outrage," so why give this particular incident any more legs than it's already gotten.

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jonas_opines 4 years, 7 months ago

Oh please. Count on the democrats to take a gaffe by the opposition and somehow ensure that they look as stupid and childish as him.

He shouldn't have Had to apologize even once. If he wanted to to salvage his reputation, fine. Otherwise just let him look like a fool.

Time to let this go. It's not nearly the political landmine that the Dems want it to be.

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somebodynew 4 years, 7 months ago

Of couse he is correct, but not for the stated reason. An apology should come from someone who means it, he didn't. He was told to apologize so he did. He didn't mean the first one, so why should he make more lame statments.

He is a jerk, and will continue to be.

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grammaddy 4 years, 7 months ago

Censure him! I know that isn't much punishment, but at least it sends the message to Congress that this type of behavior will not be tolerated. Or wrap him in his dixie rebel flag and beat him with a bar of soap in a sock. That's what I'd really like to see.

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