Archive for Sunday, September 6, 2009

City commission agenda: Study for depot under discussion

September 6, 2009


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meeting room E, Lawrence Memorial Hospital

  • When: Monday, December 15, 2008, 1 p.m. to 2 p.m.
  • Where: Lawrence Memorial Hospital, 325 Maine St., Lawrence
  • More on this event....

Bottom line: City commissioners will consider spending $24,600 to hire a private architectural firm to study what repairs are needed to the old Santa Fe Depot at Seventh and New Jersey streets.

Background: The city does not own the depot building but wants to complete a low-cost purchase of the depot from the railroad company by year’s end. The city wants to do the study now because it is needed to apply for state and federal grants to renovate the 1950s-era depot. Grant applications must be completed by year’s end. City staff members are recommending Lawrence-based Hernly Associates.

Other business: Recognitions

• Proclaim Sept. 6-12 as International Literacy Week.

• Proclaim Sept. 6-12 as Suicide Prevention Week.

• Proclaim Sept. 13-19 as POW/MIA Recognition Week and Sept. 18 as POW/MIA Recognition Day.

Consent agenda

• Approve City Commission meeting minutes from Aug. 11 and Aug. 18.

• Receive minutes from boards and commissions.

• Approve all claims.

• Approve licenses as recommended by the Department of Administrative Services.

• Bid and purchase items:

a.) Set bid date of Sept. 22 for a vehicle chassis and a bid date of Oct. 20 for a truck body.

b.) Set bid date of Sept. 22 for a fencing project at the Youth Sports Complex.

c.) Award City Bid No. B09041, Project No. PW0829. Burroughs Creek Rail Trail, to R. D. Johnson Excavating Co., Inc. for $591,632.97.

d.) Reject bids for the Comprehensive Rehabilitation Program at 936 Pa. and 1132 R.I.

• Adopt on first reading Ordinance No. 8458, establishing no parking along the south side of 13th Street from 300 feet east of Oregon Street to 300 feet west of Oregon Street.

• Adopt on second and final reading Ordinance No. 8457, allowing possession and consumption of alcoholic beverages on certain city property pursuant to Jo Shmo’s sidewalk dining and hospitality license.

• Approve a revised Preliminary Development Plan PDP-6-1-09, 43.88 acres, for commercial portions of Bauer Farm, 4700 Block No. 2 Overland Drive. Submitted by Landplan Engineering, for Free State Group LLC, Free State Holdings Inc., Bauer Farms Residential LLC and CVS Pharmacy LLC, property owners of record.

• Accept dedication of easements and rights of way for PP-6-3-09, for a one-lot multi-family Preliminary Plat on 7.71 acres for Park Place Addition at 510-544 Fireside Drive. Submitted by Paul Werner Architects, for Ernest Fleischer, property owner of record.

• Authorize staff to negotiate an agreement with Olsson & Associates for engineering services for the Sixth Street ITS project.

• Authorize the mayor to sign a release of mortgage for Janice Doores, 1605 Cadet Ave.

• Authorize the city manager to execute a first amendment to the site agreement with Cingular Wireless for leased space on the water tower at 1815 Stratford.

• Approve as signs of community interest, a request from the Friends of the Lawrence Public Library to place signs advertising a fundraiser book sale. The signs would be placed between Sixth and Ninth streets and between Massachusetts Street and Tennessee Street the morning of Oct. 2 and removed the afternoon of Oct. 10.

• Receive city manager’s report.

Regular agenda

• Conduct public hearing to discuss the condition of the dilapidated structure at 426 Perry St. and to consider declaring the structure unsafe and ordering its repair or removal within a specified period of time.

• Consider authorizing the city manager to execute agreements with Hernly Associates Inc. for the Phase 1 BNSF Depot report.

• Consider recommended plan design changes for the city’s employee health care plan. Consider authorizing the city manager to enter into contract negotiations with Cigna, Delta Dental and MedTrak for health care services for the city’s employee health care plan effective Jan. 1.


driedoregano 4 years, 7 months ago

stan's a viable option svenway. the info posted shows that. duh.

9 person firm, etc.


grammaddy 4 years, 7 months ago

I recently took the train back east from that depot. As I understand it, the depot is only open a total of 3 hours a day. I know for a fact that the pay phone outside does not work. Why would the city even consider spending that kind of money on a study of a building it does not own? Seems like a big waste of big bucks for 3 or 4 trains that pass through every day.


driedoregano 4 years, 7 months ago

svenway says, "I'm not sure what driedoregano is saying here….."

yeah that's what usually happens - the difference between rational and stupid crank posts that are merely cranky snark attacks.


driedoregano 4 years, 7 months ago

stan's OK - very well known for historic.

deal / no deal means just that.

smear smear svenway is a nut for sure a crank dummie guess what? the legislature passed the laws that authorize testing for licensed professions - if you pass you are in.

if you have a masters and cannot pass the exam you are out. simple.


svenway_park 4 years, 7 months ago

I'm not sure what driedoregano is saying here.....

But he has a history of trying to use this forum to try to smear any competitors in the architectural field.

He demeans their projects, he demeans their experience. If he can find a way to file a licensing complaint against someone, he will. He complains about the Mercantile, he complains about Van Go, he complains about the Traenor firm. He says he is environmental, but lives in a home constructed out of a very CO2 unfriendly structure.... and then sues the school board with frivolous claims when his personal park gets used for public purposes.

The Legislature should investigate people like him who want to practice architecture without an architectural degree.


driedoregano 4 years, 7 months ago

Background: The city does not own the depot building but.....


driedoregano 4 years, 7 months ago


see listings on google.


barrypenders 4 years, 7 months ago

This is a great use for Larryville stimulus money. Look at all the jobs for hard working people. The hard work from this project is as valuable as any stimulus money from the Poser that has created millions of jobs.


Eileen Emmi Jones 4 years, 7 months ago

Whatever happened to competitive bids?


driedoregano 4 years, 7 months ago

Hernly Associates, Inc. 920 Massachusetts St #2 Lawrence KS 66044 785-749-5806 Fax: 785-749-1515 Email: Web: Year Established: 1987

Total Personnel: 9 Architects 3 Architectural Interns 2 Other 4

Examples of Projects: Morning Star Church, Lawrence, Kansas; Historic Nemaha County Jail, Porch Restoration, Leavenworth, Kansas; First United Methodist Church, New Elevator & Narthex Remodel, Leavenworth, Kansas; Simply Self Storage, San Antonio, Texas, Industrial Sales, Olathe, Kansas

Types of Work by Percentage: Industrial Facilities 15 Multi-Unit Residential 5 Commercial, Office Facilities 15 Single Family Residential 10 Financial Institutions 5 Self-Storage 15 Renovation/Restoration 15 Religious Facilities 15 Retail Facilities 5

Available for Residential Projects with budgets of less than $50,000

Principals: Stanley C. Hernly, AIA

Clients Contact: Stan Hernly

Consultants/Suppliers Contact: Stan Hernly


Eileen Emmi Jones 4 years, 7 months ago

They sure know how to waste our money and end up with nothing.


just_another_bozo_on_this_bus 4 years, 7 months ago

"And just who is Hernly Associates "

Architecture firm in downtown Lawrence, above Milton's.


cowboy 4 years, 7 months ago

Hey stain , my point was it seems like a done deal , why bother with the formalities. And just who is Hernly Associates , their website is about 1/4 done , hope his studies are better than the website.


Stain 4 years, 7 months ago

cowboy says "Just have Fritzel come over and quote it..."

Fritzel? Fritzel built my house. I would never buy anything he had touched, ever again. Cut corners everywhere. More maintenance on this 10 year old house than on the 60 year old house I owned before.


GardenMomma 4 years, 7 months ago

Are they considering NOT buying the station (for a buck I think or was that the dam?)

Why spend $25,000 and then decide not to buy something?

It sounds like the commission has already made up their minds to purchase this (and that stupid Farmland place) regardless of the cost. Why spend the "consulting fee"? They should just call it what it is - a set of plans for renovation.


RoeDapple 4 years, 7 months ago

D-9 Caterpillar @ $275/hr for 3 hrs. = $825


Godot 4 years, 7 months ago

Who are they going to lay off in order to pay for this frivolity?


not_holroyd 4 years, 7 months ago

I'm sure glad the grumpy old man of Louisiana St, aka one-eyed-wilbur, has come back from Dalhart for the fall.

He is so positive about things in the world. I just can not stand his unending enthusiasm and support for this town. It just never stops. No wonder he is so popular with the ladies.


oneeye_wilbur 4 years, 7 months ago

so, annex Westar to compensate for removing train station from tax rolls charge Westar along with charging city salestaxes on Westar bills along with the franchise fee, and how many other properties and land has the city taken off the rolls. NO to spending money on the train station, if Burlington Northern doesn't want it, they should put it up for sale and there would be buyers, it would make a might fine nice bar and grill

the city isn't any better in buying and selling real esate than the school district, buy hight spend high and end with what?

whatever happened to the deal for the fire station on Mass near 19th and the one on Free State? are they stil for sale?


macon47 4 years, 7 months ago

it is funny the city doens have money for anything else it reminds me of the pot of gold usd497 found so they could build sports arenas for the parents to flaunt around in but still dont have any money for the kids


cowboy 4 years, 7 months ago

Just have Fritzel come over and quote it for god sake and save us all a bunch of study dollars. Since you the city have decided that saving this ugly A$$ old depot is a priority just get on with it. Do we have any idea whether these rail lines have anything new happening in the future like increased trains ? If it's such a priority build a new one which has some character other than the early greyhound look.


blackwalnut 4 years, 7 months ago

$24,600 for a study

Highway robbery

Why do the commissioners want to throw our money away in this way? What's in it for them?


Stain 4 years, 7 months ago

The next city employee or commissioner who suggest charging, or charging more, for basic services like the swimming pool, the library, downtown parking, etc. should be run out of town on a rail.

Obviously there is money when these folks want to feather the nests of their friends. An investigation is in order. Not so long ago we found out our mayor had a financial interest in Dicephera. These people are giving our money away, and they need to be scrutinized.


Stain 4 years, 7 months ago

Another plan to spend tens of thousands to draw up a set of plans?

Why does the city commission want to spend so much money for architects - money that will result in nothing but a piece of paper?

Who are they trying to throw business to?

Something smells in Lawrence.


swan_diver 4 years, 7 months ago

I would applaud an engineering study that would demonstrate how much money will be needed to restore the Santa Fe Depot at 7th and New Jersey in Lawrence -- which will enable the city to buy this landmark at a very low price -- after the railroad left it to rot, for decades. Someone has to do the work of protecting the nation's cultural heritage and history.

As for 'uninformed,' I'd say he should have gotten busy protecting the federal, state and local treasuries long ago, as the right-wing business and banking interests so near his heart, and in control of all levels of government, have already 'Madoff' with our children's inheritance.


50YearResident 4 years, 7 months ago

Dear Commissioners, I own this great old London Bridge, which I have for sale. It would look absolutely fabulous installed across the Kaw River to link the two train stations so all the tourists could walk from one to the other. Your cost is only $2,000,000.00 American + consulting fees! Please respond immediately as there are other Cities interested in this bridge!


Norma Jeane Baker 4 years, 7 months ago

Regarding the Depot, I will speak v e r y s l o w l y...

We don't have the money for this!


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