Archive for Saturday, September 5, 2009

Police, OnStar track down leaving-the-scene accident suspect

Missouri man arrested on OUI, other charges

September 5, 2009, 5:02 a.m. Updated September 5, 2009, 9:30 p.m.


Police made an arrest Friday night in connection with a leaving-the-scene vehicle accident with some help from the suspect's OnStar navigation system.

An Emporia man reported at about 11:20 p.m. his Chevy Malibu had been rear-ended near the intersection of Ninth and Iowa streets. The man, who was not injured in the accident, could not provide a description of the suspect vehicle.

Several minutes later, Douglas County dispatch received a call from OnStar advising the airbags had been deployed on a Saturn Ion in Lawrence. When OnStar attempted to contact the driver, the service received no answer. Using the vehicle's GPS system, OnStar tracked the vehicle's location and passed the information to emergency dispatch and Lawrence Police. Lawrence Police tracked down the suspect vehicle at 11:55 p.m. in the 700 block of Connecticut.

"Because of the GPS relaying constantly the location of that vehicle, our officers were able to stop it," said Lawrence Police Sgt. Susan Hadl.

The suspect, a 46-year-old Blue Springs, Mo., man, was arrested on charges of driving while impaired, failure to report an accident, leaving the scene of an accident and no proof of insurance.

The suspect did not suffer any serious injuries.


Maracas 8 years, 3 months ago

"This is exactly the kind of technology the rightwing KDOT would like to see in each car to permit the security state to monitor our whereabouts. In this case, it brought about the arrest of an a..hole. But in KDOT's case, it simply another way for the security state to see what you're up to… along with reading your email, tracking your web surfing, seeing what your read at the library, monitoring what you pruchase at bookstores, looking at your movie watching habits… etc. All profile for them so that they can sort the data and pigeon hole those that “might be troublemakers” for future arrest and detention. Thanks rightwing!"

Do try to avoid vertigo while up on your soapbox.

Tim Quest 8 years, 3 months ago

Hopefully the tinfoil on his head will protect him from vertigo, too.

GardenMomma 8 years, 3 months ago

I started to smile as I read this article, knowing what the bloggers would have to say....I'll be back in a few hours to see how the rants have gotten along.

Matt Needham 8 years, 3 months ago

As I understand it the government doesn't even have enough people to look at the photos the red light cameras take. Don't worry, your life is not interesting enough for anyone in the government to bother. The private companies are gathering all that data though, and right now they are classifying you precisely for their diabolical plans!. Expect more targeted junk mail and spam any day now...

misslawrence 8 years, 3 months ago

MIZZOU IN THA HOUSE!!!!!! THEY CAN'T DRIVE NO DARN WAY!!!!!!!!!! he was probably here a night early for the KU game,..,hehe

Boosh 8 years, 3 months ago

logrithmic, my take on the 9th circuit courts decision is that our system does work, sometimes. My opinion is that if our gubment were to gather all this info you claim of into a single database it would sell it to the marketing co. that bid highest. As HenryPeach (Matt Needham) says "Expect more targeted junk mail and spam any day now…"

My reaction to the article is, haha, dumb@$$.

Boosh 8 years, 3 months ago

logrithmic "protecting" us from ourselves is not exclusive to the far right, mrs. clintons attempts to censor videogames comes to mind. The far right just seems to wrap their attempts in the flag, the title "Patriot Act" was nothing more then a marketing gimmick.

aldo 8 years, 3 months ago

Hey Logrithmic ... if you put on your tin foil hat those black helicopters flying over your house cant read your mind or count the money in your wallet because you know the new money has those magnetic ribbons in them ...

persevering_gal 8 years, 3 months ago

logrithmic - now you're getting your sources from movies? A car has a GPS system that basically turned themselves in for drinking and driving, and you're upset about this because...? Unless you have something to hide logrithmic, what's the big deal? Bravo to OnStar, LPD and the drunk driver who decided to purchase a vehicle with OnStar. With OnStar, it was the driver's CHOICE to purchase the OnStar plan unless he/she had a brand new vehicle which provides one year of service for free.

Boeing 8 years, 3 months ago

1) log - stop talking, you sound crazy (because you probably are). I'm all for people helping me find criminals and/or my stolen car. I don't do anything wrong, so if the "right wingers" want to know I'm at home, or the bar, or work, or Cirilla's, so be it, whatever, I have bigger things to worry about.

2) This just reconfirms the point that every time you see a Missouri plate, it's probably on a car eluding police.

james bush 8 years, 3 months ago

I wonder, is Obama planning to require GPS in all of his GM(Government Motors) models or just those purchased by rightwingers and republicans, and maybe bluedog democrats if they don't pony up.

bearded_gnome 8 years, 3 months ago

I'm not a nutbag like the chemically altered Logie, who [surprisingly] hasn't turned this into a propot screed...yet.

however, when I read this, I did have some questions: anybody know if this is the first case in America of an OnStar arrest? its one thing if a car is stolen and located along with the scofflaws by the OnStar. here, however, the circumstances are certainly different.
I did read this with concern for 4th and 5th amendment rights/protections being trampled.
*here, OnStar becomes an agent of the police, it seems.

as this was happening, the PD was in running contact with the OnStar operator.

"right wing KDOT?"

KDOT? that was LMAO!

Boosh 8 years, 3 months ago

As I read the article. OnStar received an airbag deployment indication. No response from driver. OnStar directed emergency help to vehicle.

OnStar had no indication of criminal activity.

puddleglum 8 years, 3 months ago

how come marioni isn't weighing in on this one?

liberty infringe anyone?

notajayhawk 8 years, 3 months ago

logrithmic (Anonymous) says…

"This is exactly the kind of technology the rightwing KDOT would like to see in each car to permit the security state to monitor our whereabouts."

OnStar is a General Motors product - now owned by Obama industries, loggie.

And, as Boosh said, the police were looking for a vehicle whose airbag deployed and whose driver they were unable to contact. Is THAT okay with your conspiracy-theory-addled mind, loggie, or is trying to help someone whose car had crashed (one would think a major factor in the vehicle owner's decision to purchase a car equipped with OnStar) also a right-wing plot of some kind?

alm77 8 years, 3 months ago

Boosh and ufo are correct. The man signed himself up for a service that would call the authorities should he be in an accident and unresponsive. File this under "Stupid Criminals"; no conspiracy needed. This is hilarious! I wonder how often it happens.

Sigmund 8 years, 3 months ago

UfoPilot (Anonymous) says… "OnStar is something you PAY for. "

Exactly, most corporations have more current information on us than the government does. You grant them the right to track you when you use their products. For instance, most modern cell phones have GPS, something the bad guys constantly forget. Thankfully they don't they ever watch "24", or read the papers. Under certain circumstances the government can get access to this information usually by court order. Countless lives have been saved because of GPS enabled cell phones.

This time Law Enforcement was contacted because OnStar was purchased primarily to inform Law Enforcement in the event of an accident and the driver is disabled, or stolen and then involved in a accident. I doubt this moron expected this outcome, but he can hardly complain about his fate he paid a monthly charge to have!

Anyway throw the book at this POS with maximum sentences run consecutively. We have to send a message to those who leave the scene of auto accidents will be punished more harshly if they leave and then get caught.

conservativepunker 8 years, 3 months ago

Logrithmic-Mike Judge called. You're violating his Dale Gribble character's copyright. Besides, isn't the Holy Obama supposed to cure all ills, make everyone love each other and make the crippled walk? Newsflash: Bush is out of office. How many years will it take for you to cease blaming everything on that administration?

WHY 8 years, 3 months ago

So how much do you have to pay a month for an electronic snitch to be built into your car. I think Onstar will lose a few potential customers by using their service against a paying client. But if they can afford to lose the business good for them for helping out.

Jimo 8 years, 3 months ago

logrithmic - public privacy is an oxymoron. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy from government eyes while cruising the public byways.

As to OnStar, no one is forced to participate with them. Besides, can you imagine the lawsuits if OnStar were to take no action under these circumstances?

Sigmund 8 years, 3 months ago

WHY (Anonymous) says… "So how much do you have to pay a month for an electronic snitch to be built into your car. I think Onstar will lose a few potential customers by using their service against a paying client."

How was OnStar to know? The moron didn't answer their call to see if he needed assistance. As far as they knew their customers car was stolen, involved in a hit and run, and their paying client would want them to help find and arrest the people involved.

In any event, all's well that ends well. I am sure we all want to thank him for paying monthly fees to help us arrest his stupid drunk driving, GPS tracked, booze crusin, hit and run cowardly punk ass. Hopefully in the near future and for several years we won't need GPS to know exactly what cell he can be found in and whose bitch he is. Then when he is released required him to purchase OnStar and only drive vehicles with OnStar enabled. Make it a condition of his license for years after his release.

Bunny_Hotcakes 8 years, 3 months ago

@WHY OnStar costs ~$200 a year. You can pay extra for cell phone minutes and turn-by-turn navigation services. I know this because GM is constantly trying to get me to upgrade my service. :P

The first year is generally included with the price of the car. If this guy is driving an ION, he's been willingly paying for OnStar, as the ION isn't a current model. If he got in an accident bad enough for the airbags to deploy, OnStar will automatically call the vehicle to inquire about the condition of the driver. If they get no response, they will assume he's hurt too badly to speak and send help to the car's location. This was all stuff this guy agreed to when he bought the service.

He's an idiot for driving drunk, full stop. It's kind of more sad/hilarious that he did it in a car that could easily be tracked by a service for which he willingly paid.

BorderRat 8 years, 3 months ago

Seems like some have have a strange need to run out and buy a copy of "Catcher in the Rye?" P.S. Don't forget the combination to the coffee.

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Wonder what log is up to that makes him so paranoid....

Bunny_Hotcakes 8 years, 3 months ago

@Multi In 2009 (and newer) model GM vehicles, OnStar can shut the car off.

That pkoof sound you all heard was logrithmic's head exploding. Cleanup on aisle 5...

MrMister 8 years, 3 months ago

You are only required to pay for Onstar if you want the navigation assistance, handsfree cellphone service and such. Even if you don't subsribe, they will check in on an airbag deployment. Because the system accesse and is essintially a cell phone, it is required to work without a subscription. The only ones that don't work are the older analog models.

james bush 8 years, 3 months ago

GM is installing Onstar and it tracks even when the driver/device is not under subscription!? No wonder Obama wanted GM under his thumb!

whynaut 8 years, 3 months ago

As data stores get exponentially larger and cheaper, the amalgamation of data, at an equally exponential rate, is almost certainly unavoidable. For the average computer user, the 80's was the decade of the kilobyte; the 90's the megabyte. This decade has been that of the gigabyte, but it's not uncommon for home users to have terabytes of available storage. Soon, we'll have petabytes and exabytes available at the disposal of middle class incomes.

To give you an idea, it takes only about 5 gigs to store the entire text of the Bible. And right now, you can get a Dell laptop for under $500 with a 320GB hard disk. Just imagine what you can get on a multi-million dollar budget.

My point is that arguing against the collection of data is pointless. Most of your life will soon be mirrored in bytes, if it is not already. Some might find that a bit unnerving, but there's little anyone can do about it. Speaking out against it is as effective as protesting the rotation of the Earth.

That being said, it's important to distinguish between data and information. Information is the interpretation of data. The fact that airbags were deployed on the suspect's car is a piece of data. The fact that the suspect was unresponsive to the follow up call is a piece of data. OnStar interprets that data as a potentially incapacitating car accident. Two pieces of data, interpreted into one piece of valuable, possibly life saving, information. The fact that the police received a hit and run call is a piece of data. Combined with the information received from OnStar, they interpreted it as a lead into a criminal investigation, that resulted in what most of us would consider justice.

It's the interpretation of data that we should be concerned with, not the inevitable collection of it. In my opinion, the interpretation of the data in this case was just, and appropriate action was taken as a result of the information.

But... we should always remain vigilante about who is interpreting our personal data and what their motivations are. The best way I can think to do this is to stay informed, stay skeptical, do some diligent research when putting elected officials in power, and call fouls as you see them.

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Quite the genius aren't you log! Law Enforcement? FBI? CIA? KBI? DIA?

Have you forgotten the KGB? Interpol? Our Man Flint? 007?

Better check your BVD's!

Sigmund 8 years, 3 months ago

Just when is that "squelch" "ignore list" the LJW promised so long ago. I'm getting carpal tunnel just scrolling through all of logrithmic paranoid ravings. It is especially bad on those days he forgets to self medicate.

However I still laugh every time I think of OnStar leading the LPD directly to this moron and then logrithmic blaming Bush/Cheney for our lost freedoms to drink, drive, collide, and run like hell from the cops and Obama has been co-opted.

UfoPilot 8 years, 3 months ago

Dillons knows more about you than the government ever will.

labmonkey 8 years, 3 months ago

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bearded_gnome 8 years, 3 months ago

there's for Logie!

no, Logie, I have it on good authority that Roe is a secret high commander in the UN's force to take over the U.S., he's got a blue helmet hidden with a giant U.N. flag in his garage. he pledges allegiance to it every night before he goes to bed, right after he drains some blood to make a special super secret U.N. symbol.

I love how Logie cites MSNBC, when at least twice he's attacked that disreputable organization. it includes commentators and even anchors who use sexual vulgarities to refer to average american citizens who are seeking redress from their government.
he also cites the Hufflebumblepost, like that's a believable source at all! then, he cites movies as if they are reality!

yes, Logie is definitely off his meds, and long term drug use has really addled his mind.

I am glad the Missourian/shlub got caught.

I do wonder if the OnStar evidence can be used in court because it would be self-incriminating.

car with Missouri tag is most likely eluding police! LMAO!

note it was an emporia man who was hit. this case did not involve anybody from Topeka, unless the OnStar operator is from there!

Bladerunner 8 years, 3 months ago

I didnt have time to read all the other posts so i dont know if anyone has pointed this out......but the best part of the whole deal is....He is paying On Star to catch his own dumb ass!

bearded_gnome 8 years, 3 months ago

Logie: here's a few you left off your list: Bill Clinton screwed his intern/employee; prettyboy Johnny Edwards [heavily supported by Merrill] was VP candidate in '04, in dem primary last year--had a long term mistress on the side as his beautiful and honorable wife dies of breast cancer; one governor of New York paid thousands of dollars for hookers, was a prosecutor and knew about prostitution investigations-didn't care; current New York Governor, multiple affairs, including with employee , used coke-evidence that he may have used coke after becoming NY Gov.

how's that for you Logie?

Drew_Carey 8 years, 3 months ago

1000 pts for log. Happy Trails. Come back and see us again, ya hear.

bearded_gnome 8 years, 3 months ago

As the sun sets slowly in the west,

we wave good bye to our dear brother Logrithmic, sinking in the east. his canoe swamped and he just couldn't keep up.

Good bye and good luck little fella! does this mean LJWorld is part of your "reichwing" conspiracy now too?

"right wing KDOT" LMAO!

I'm gonna miss ol' Logie, he could always be counted on for some laughs. there were the frequent charges that a crime was actually a "false flag incident" when Logie himself solved from Lawrence Kansas the attacks On University of California, Santa Cruz biotech researchers, stating that they were clearly "false flag incidents" meant to distract us!

He knew for certain that the Washington DC Anthrax attack was false flag too!

heck, if he turns on the water in his john and it comes out brown, its probably some d---d conspiracy!

poor Logie is now alone with his computer and his pot. and he can't post on here anymore. wonder if he'll take lessons from the former Bronze/ocean/spiderman/cool/et al and come back under another name.

I do have to say his tag line on two or three messages today on this thread were genuinely creepy.

bye bye Logie!

bearded_gnome 8 years, 3 months ago

I posted this elsewhere:

I think Logie's pod has its escape hatch in the bathroom. otherwise, a black helicopter came, snatched him out of this world through the toilet, you know they can do such things. right now, they're probing poor Logie.

Mike Wagner 8 years, 3 months ago

A K-Tag is a short range transponder that can not be tracked by satallite, or even a spaceship! Your cell phone on the other hand... I also got a finger cramp scrolling to the bottom to throw my 2 cents in. If there is one thing I've learned, it's that this town loves to b*#!h.

labmonkey 8 years, 3 months ago

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Kris_H 8 years, 3 months ago

If you have OnStar, can you turn it off?

You don't HAVE to use your K-Tag, at least, not yet. You don't HAVE to use a grocery store discount/ID card. You don't, I suppose, even HAVE to use a cellphone, even in this day and age.

I don't personally have any problem with any of the above, or even Google snooping in my email. I'm pretty much a WYSIWYG kind of person. Just wondering if there is any option of NOT having OnStar turned on if it's installed.

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

loggy getting disappearededed takes so much away from this thread...

Hope the KGB didn't get him....

or was it the FBI..



bearded_gnome 8 years, 3 months ago

at 2:25 a.m.

Suggest removal Permalink Anonymous labmonkey (Anonymous) says…

What the hell…when did they disappear Loggy? I actually do some work at work, and now see our drugged up and whacked out friend is gone. May the lord truely bless him.

---Labmonkey, you were working at 1a.m. on sunday morning. thanks for your dedication, or else ... I hope your meth lab is successful LOL.

Roe, no, it was obviously a false flag incident, an incident rigged up to distract us from, say, the KU football game win, perpetrated by the UN, Interpol, and General Mills.

you know, those Lucky Charms include a secret decoder icon amongst the cereal shapes.

and you, Roe, are of course, at the center of Logie getting disappearedededed!

You, Roe, are most certainly the focus of evil that took out Logie. you are obviously a member of the Illuminati, a free mason, and a member of "skull and bones."

who's next Roe?

puddleglum 8 years, 3 months ago

labmonk-"Better stick with a fast Ford"

hey, let me know if they ever make one. I like the front ends of mustangs, they look pretty good-but I admit that I have never seen their tail-lights.....prolly cuz they are deep in my rear view mirror.....

slowplay 8 years, 3 months ago

Unreal. I swear these blogs mostly attract the lunatic fringe of Lawrence. Disconnect the OnStar antenna on the windshield. With the antenna disconnected, there's no transmission, it just thinks its out of range.

labmonkey 8 years, 3 months ago

Puddlegum- I am a GM guy...but we cannot have loggy getting caught because of the Onstar in his Chevy...

labmonkey 8 years, 3 months ago


Look at the times of some of my posts....I currently work midnights and lack the seniority to have weekends off.

jonas_opines 8 years, 3 months ago

logrithmic pulled should not be good news. He's the absolute insane that might be distracting the mods from some of the lesser forms so prevalant. Now who will shield you, and make you look rational by comparison?

Boosh 8 years, 3 months ago

uh oh fiddlestix, does this mean logrithmic was right? I log on the next day and he is gone, no trace now but empty replies to show he ever existed! Is this how things work here? One moment there then pffft the next you're gone! It's enough to make me start eyein' my tinfoil.

Practicality 8 years, 3 months ago

With Loggie gone who is going to tell us that all the worlds health problems can be cured by Marijuana and that Wal-Mart is the next 3rd Reich, convice us we only need a one way dirt road to travel on between here and Ottawa, protect us from a governmental plot to make chemical weapons in a trailer park in Manhattan and release them on the heartland during a tornado, and call everyone the Reichwing or RepublKKKlans?

I do think a black helicopter swooped down and picked him up in the middle of the night. Wouldn't that really be ironic? He would have been correct about something.

Leslie Swearingen 8 years, 3 months ago

Why would anyone care who knows what they checked out at the library? I have books on MIchael Jackson, the Greats of Football, the prequel trilogy to Asimovs Foundations series, written by the killer B's, Benford, Brin and Bear. And the Exorcist. What they proves I have no idea. I'd be happy to put my grocery list on here is anyone is really interested. Meanwhile I think we should start with the questions suggested for the K-6th graders and work up from there.

Leslie Swearingen 8 years, 3 months ago

As for Walmart, I have my hair done there once a month. Ponder on that.

bearded_gnome 8 years, 3 months ago

Labmonkey, yes, have noted your posting times. besides the above images, I also imagined you as ... mad scientist "it's alive!" [Frankenstein ref].

oh Prac, I'd forgotten about the WMD's from a Manhattan trailer court spread by tornado! lol!

indeed, it would be ironic if he were for once accurate. or maybe just maybe it really was the "right wing KDOT" with their K-tag that took him out.

bye bye Logie, we're gonna miss ya' little fella!

monkeyhawk 8 years, 3 months ago

Did log ever claim to be a male? I always figured it was a shemerrill.

rbwaa 8 years, 3 months ago

i've never seen somebody get disappeardeded i'm afraid, very afraid....

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

With most folks, there's never a cop when you need one...

With loogie, they were everywhere...

Remember these, loogie?

(smokestacks from "Conspiracy Theory")

labmonkey 8 years, 3 months ago

He will be back.....I don't think he can stay away for too long.

bearded_gnome 8 years, 3 months ago

monkeyhawk (Anonymous) says…

Did log ever claim to be a male? I always figured it was a shemerrill.

---^ LOL!

I think I inferred that Logie was a male, sorta profiling given his interests and attitude.

wow, but what if Logie were a She? wow. 6ft1, never shaves her armpits, ruddy complexion, mousy hair, maybe a smoker besides the pot. bleck.

Practicality 8 years, 3 months ago

I think loggie is reading these posts and screaming at all of you. Shemerrill, LOL!

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

I gave him a hint! Didn't I tell him to check his BVD's?

(imagine he just read this and is running to his underwear drawer! )

Sigmund 8 years, 3 months ago

labmonkey (Anonymous) says… "He will be back…..I don't think he can stay away for too long."

Maybe the LJW can run a online contest, "Spot Loggie's New Login! Just look at this studio filled with a prize! Be the first to spot Logrithmic's new login and it all can be yours! Must be present and in the present commonly known as "reality" to win. Employees of the Urinal Whirlled and Developturds too stoopid to win and are not eligible. God So Blessed." Rhonda or Bearded can start a blog on it and the first one to post with its new handle (only one guess per poster is allowed) wins a tin foil hat signed by Dick Cheney and I shall provide the winning prize!

OK, it might not be signed by "THE" Dick Cheney you were expecting. OK, I was going to sign it "Dick Cheney," but who knows I might be Glenn Beck imitating George Bush pretending to be Dick Cheney, probably. In any case the hat won't even be real tin foil as aluminum foil is the new tin foil. All the real tin on Earth has been mined and sent to another planet where it is used to combat global warming. You have seen the chart of reduced tin foil production as it relates to global warming put out by the UN and the Federal Reserve, haven't you?

Practicality 8 years, 3 months ago


Nice idea, are members of the Reichwing eligible to play?

TopJayhawk 8 years, 3 months ago

OMG. You mean Obama knows I parked at sixth and Maine for the game last night. No good can come from this.

RoeDapple 8 years, 3 months ago

Multi, I don't let just anybody see my 'Fiber Opticals'!

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