Archive for Wednesday, October 21, 2009

New info shows H1N1 still hardest on young

October 21, 2009


— Swine flu continues to be most dangerous to kids and younger adults and is largely bypassing the elderly, according to the latest and most solid government health information.

Health officials on Tuesday released figures for swine flu hospitalizations and deaths for the seven weeks since the beginning of September. The information comes from 28 states.

It showed more than half of all hospitalizations were people 24 and younger; more than a quarter were ages 5 to 18 years.

“Essentially, this is still a young person’s disease,” said Dr. Anne Schuchat of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Swine flu deaths were concentrated in young and middle-aged adults. A third of all deaths were people ages 25 through 49; another third were 50 to 64.

Only 12 percent of deaths occurred in elderly. That’s a stark contrast to the roughly 90 percent of deaths in the elderly from seasonal flu, Schuchat said at a Tuesday press conference.


gr 8 years, 8 months ago

"New info shows H1N1 still hardest on young"

What is missing from this article? Numbers.

If there were a million people and 1 older person got the flu while 2 younger people got it, it would be twice as "hard" on the young.

But, this isn't the whole story is it? Something's missing. What if the next person to get it was older? 2 for 2. Understand?

supertrampofkansas 8 years, 8 months ago

Numbers are here gr.


I thought numbers in terms of percentages and rates eliminate the type of confusion that you refer to.

gr 8 years, 8 months ago

"I thought numbers in terms of percentages and rates eliminate the type of confusion that you refer to."

Why do you think that? It removes information. If someone said 100% of those who got the flu were the young, would you panic if you were young? However, if you find out only one person got it, then 100% means nothing.

supertrampofkansas 8 years, 8 months ago


Did you get a chance to read the link? The hard numbers are there. Be interested in hearing what your take is on the data. Maybe you can give a more insightful analysis with the actual numbers.

gr 8 years, 8 months ago

Yes, I had looked at the link. My argument was the news media didn't report it. DId you notice in the link that more under 4 die of the regular flu than of the pig flu? Did you notice 53 pediatric deaths were for this year compared to 116 last year, and 88 the previous year. Maybe more will happen later? Is 53 out of 116 this early in the season a large enough sample to determine "young" or "old" disease? Did you also notice that for some reason the "case counts" were about the same for next two age groups, but the cumulative rate per 10000 were higher. Not sure what that means but I don't believe the news article mentioned it. I think all one could conclude is that the 65+ have not died of it as in 07-08. Do you think it better to just report that we should be scared? Do you think they will ever break it out by those who get sick and or die between vaccinated and unvaccinated? Something tells me that the news media, at least, will not report that.

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