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November 28, 2009


God’s word comforts doubters

The Rev. Kara Eidson, associate pastor, First United Methodist Church, 946 Vt.:

“Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.” — Hebrews 11:1

The most frequent dilemma that comes to me from members of the church, and even in my own faith journey, is the problem of doubt. I often comfort such people by assuring them: “Doubt is proof that faith is still alive.” But even though I can recount centuries of the faithful who have struggled with doubt as well, it is sometimes little comfort.

(John Wesley, the founder of the Methodist movement, often told his circuit riding preachers: “Preach faith until you have it!”) We — perhaps even more than our ancestors — have become a people who desire evidence for the things we believe; we want to see and touch what is real, or at least have an authority on the subject explain it in such a way that we are able to believe. But I have no formula for my profession that will prove God’s existence, that’s why it comes down to a matter of faith.

This verse is one of my favorites because it defines faith: “assurance of things hoped for” and “conviction of things not seen.”

We find such assurance and conviction in the Word, in God’s creation, in the people around us who work for the good. We can be witnesses to God’s promises on a daily basis, if only we have eyes to see and ears to hear.

— Send e-mail to Kara Eidson at

Scriptures reveal miracle of life

The Rev. Matt Zimmerman, St. Margaret’s Episcopal Church, 5700 W. Sixth St.:

“And the Word became flesh and lived among us, and we have seen his glory, the glory as of a father’s only son, full of grace and truth.” — John 1: 14

When Yuri Gagarin returned to the USSR from his space flight he reported that having flown into the heavens he declared he had not seen God. On hearing this, an orthodox priest remarked, “If you haven’t seen God on earth, why would you expect to see him in heaven?”

The Christmas season is soon upon us. In church language, it is the Feast of the Incarnation. It is a time when we look not at the transcendent glory of God that fills the universe but at the divine wonder of a baby’s face. The incarnation reminds us that God made his creation and declared it good to the point that God is willing to be part of it. Christianity holds two opposites to be one that God is both unapproachable and intimate, beyond our sight and within our hearts. At Christmas time we look within to find God.

A charming movie titled “Wide Awake” is about a young boy who experiences a crisis and declares to his young friend that he is going on a search to find God. His friend’s question in return is quite unique, for his question contained the answer, “Where in the world are you going to find God?” The poet William Blake shares the possibilities:

“To see a world in a grain of sand, and a heaven in a wild flower, hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour.”

“And the word became flesh and lived among us ...” Christmas, the incarnation is a time to see the divine not revealed by the grandeur of the heavens but in the miracle life and the divine revealed in ourselves and those around us.

— Send e-mail to Matt Zimmerman at


gr 4 years, 4 months ago

"Marion writes:

Not too bad a deal!

You get to invade someplace, kill all the guys and keep the women!


That sounds terrible. That doesn't sound like reflecting much of a loving God, does it?

Question. For a God who delivered the Israelites out of Egypt without the people slaying anyone (Moses tried, God didn't support, and even his own people criticized him), how did it get to that point where they were instructed as you said above? When was the first time that they killed?


Paul Decelles 4 years, 4 months ago

Come on Multi, cats are better spellers than that....though mine have problems texting on a cell phone.


Flap Doodle 4 years, 4 months ago

"The wagon of the wicked shall be fixed."


barrypenders 4 years, 4 months ago

"I can make a firm pledge, under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

"I found this national debt, doubled, wrapped in a big bow waiting for me as I stepped into the Oval Office."

Hope and change.

Father Poser

Stimulus and Posercare lives unprecedented

Darwin bless us all


Kathy Getto 4 years, 4 months ago

That the self advances and confirms the ten thousand things is called delusion; That the ten thousand things advance and confirm the self is called enlightenment.

                   -    Zen Master Dogen Zenji, 1200 - 1253

Marion Lynn 4 years, 4 months ago

"Deuteronomy 20:10-14 (King James Version)

10: When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.

11: And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.

12: And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:

13: And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:

14: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee."

Marion writes:

Not too bad a deal!

You get to invade someplace, kill all the guys and keep the women!



Marion Lynn 4 years, 4 months ago

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.

And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.

And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!"


Multidisciplinary 4 years, 4 months ago

Genesis 1 Boreded Ceiling Cat makinkgz Urf n stuffs

1 Oh hai.In teh beginnin Ceiling Cat maded teh skiez An da Urfs, but he did not eated dem. 2 Da Urfs no had shapez An haded dark face, An Ceiling Cat rode invisible bike over teh waterz. 3 At start, no has lyte. An Ceiling Cat sayz, i can haz lite?An lite wuz. 4 An Ceiling Cat sawed teh lite, to seez stuffs,An splitted teh lite from dark but taht wuz ok cuz kittehs can see in teh dark An not tripz over nethin.

5 An Ceiling Cat sayed light Day An dark no Day.It were FURST!!! 6 An Ceiling Cat sayed, im in ur waterz makin a ceiling. But he no yet make a ur. An he maded a hole in teh Ceiling. 7 An Ceiling Cat doed teh skiez with waterz down An waterz up. It happen.

8 An Ceiling Cat sayed,i can has teh firmmint wich iz funny bibel naim 4 ceiling,so wuz teh twoth day. 9 An Ceiling Cat gotted all teh waterz in ur base, An Ceiling Cat hadz dry placez cuz kittehs DO NOT WANT get wet. 10 An Ceiling Cat called no waterz urth and waters oshun.Iz good.

11 An Ceiling Cat sayed, DO WANT grass! so tehr wuz seedz An stufs, An fruitzors An vegbatels. An a Corm. It happen. 12 An Ceiling Cat sawed that weedz ish good, so, letz there be weedz. 13 An so teh threeth day jazzhands.

14 An Ceiling Cat sayed, i can has lightz in the skiez for splittin day An no day. 15 It happen, lights everwear, like christmass, srsly. 16 An Ceiling Cat doeth two grate lightz, teh most big for day, teh other for no day.

17 An Ceiling Cat screw tehm on skiez, with big nails An stuff, to lite teh Urfs. 18 An tehy rulez day An night. Ceiling Cat sawed. Iz good. 19 An so teh furth day w00t.

20 An Ceiling Cat sayed, waterz bring me phishes, An burds, so kittehs can eat dem. But Ceiling Cat no eated dem. 21 An Ceiling Cat maed big fishies An see monstrs, which wuz like big cows, except they no mood, An other stuffs dat mooves, An Ceiling Cat sawed iz good. 22 An Ceiling Cat sed O hai, make bebehs kthx. An dont worry i wont watch u secksy, i not that kynd uf kitteh.

23 An so teh...fith day. Ceiling Cat taek a wile 2 cawnt. 24 An Ceiling Cat sayed, i can has MOAR living stuff, mooes, An creepie tings, An otehr aminals. It happen so tehre. 25 An Ceiling Cat doed moar living stuff, mooes, An creepies, An otehr animuls, An did not eated tehm.

26 An Ceiling Cat sayed, letz us do peeps like uz, becuz we ish teh qte, An let min p0wnz0r becuz tehy has can openers. 27 So Ceiling Cat createded teh peeps taht waz like him, can has can openers he maed tehm, min An womin wuz maeded, but he did not eated tehm. 28 An Ceiling Cat sed them O hai maek bebehs kthx, An p0wn teh waterz, no waterz An teh firmmint, An evry stufs.

29 An Ceiling Cat sayed, Beholdt, the Urfs, I has it, An I has not eated it. 30 For evry createded stufs tehre are the fuudz, to the burdies, teh creepiez, An teh mooes, so tehre. It happen. Iz good. 31 An Ceiling Cat sayed, Beholdt, teh good enouf for releaze as version 0.8a. kthxbai.


Marion Lynn 4 years, 4 months ago

"rantor (Anonymous) says…

I just threw up"

Marion writes:

You're just not supposed to drink that much that fast.


Marion Lynn 4 years, 4 months ago

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jimjones 4 years, 4 months ago

I can't remember the source, but it went something like this: "Let's nuke all the muslim countries because they want to kill everything that isn't muslim." It is such a dirty screwed up religion.


ivalueamerica 4 years, 4 months ago

Numbers 5:11-31 describe a holy abortion

"If any man's wife go aside, and commit a trespass against him... then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest, and the priest shall say unto the woman,

'The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell... and this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot': And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.

And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot... and this woman shall bear her iniquity."


Newell_Post 4 years, 4 months ago

Song of Songs 7

1 How graceful are your feet in sandals, O queenly maiden! Your rounded thighs are like jewels, the work of a master hand. 2Your navel is a rounded bowl that never lacks mixed wine. Your belly is a heap of wheat, encircled with lilies. 3Your two breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. 4Your neck is like an ivory tower. Your eyes are pools in Heshbon, by the gate of Bath-rabbim. Your nose is like a tower of Lebanon, overlooking Damascus. 5Your head crowns you like Carmel, and your flowing locks are like purple; a king is held captive in the tresses. 6How fair and pleasant you are, O loved one, delectable maiden! 7You are stately as a palm tree, and your breasts are like its clusters. 8I say I will climb the palm tree and lay hold of its branches. Oh, may your breasts be like clusters of the vine, and the scent of your breath like apples, 9and your kisses like the best wine that goes down smoothly, gliding over lips and teeth.


Paul Decelles 4 years, 4 months ago

Isaiah 55 that starts:

1 "Come, all you who are thirsty, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without cost.

2 Why spend money on what is not bread, and your labor on what does not satisfy? Listen, listen to me, and eat what is good, and your soul will delight in the richest of fare. ...


thebcman 4 years, 4 months ago

Grateful Dead, book of American Beauty, 1970.

Sometimes the lights all shining on me Other times I can barely see Lately it occurs to me What a long strange trip it's been

--Robert Hunter


Marion Lynn 4 years, 4 months ago

The Fishheads: Chapter One; Verse One:

"I don't care if it rains or freezes

'long as I got that Plastic Jesus

Sittin' on the dashboard of my car!"


farfle 4 years, 4 months ago

My favorite, very simply, "He who is in me is greater than he who is in the world."


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