Archive for Monday, November 23, 2009

Probe timing curious

November 23, 2009


The timing is one of the strangest facets of the Kansas University athletic department’s investigation into football coach Mark Mangino’s treatment of his players. Why in the world couldn’t it wait until the end of the season? Why the urgency to jump-start it with two weeks remaining in the season?

One possible explanation is that once the athletic department became aware of complaints from parents of players, past and current, the university became liable for any potential negative consequences in the event the coach repeated the complained-about behavior. If that is indeed the case, the complaints issued surely centered on behavior far more serious than a coach’s finger in a player’s chest. This theory on why the investigation couldn’t wait for the end of the season only flies if there is a smoking gun and if the complaints differed greatly in magnitude from gripes from seasons past.

What isn’t clear is what other incidents were discussed and by whom they were brought to the attention of athletic director Lew Perkins. Arist Wright, when contacted by assistant athletic director Chris Howard about an incident with Mangino, cooperated, but it’s not known what else made Perkins call a meeting with the players and what made him assign assistant AD/risk management Lori Williams to conduct an investigation.

When will The Williams Report be concluded and digested? When big money is at stake — and $6 million-plus counts, even in the Monopoly-money world of big-time college athletics — wording everything carefully becomes imperative. An investigative report one day could become a legal document the next.

If Mangino is terminated — which nearly is akin to saying, “If the sun comes up in the morning” — Kansas will do so with cause in an attempt to save the remaining $6 million-plus on his contract. Mangino then can go through the appeal process spelled out in his contract and if he loses there can try to recover his money in court.

Mangino said Tuesday that he and Perkins talked for “10 or 15 minutes.” If the fly on the wall had ears and vocal cords, maybe it would tell us that Perkins told Mangino he had the goods on him to fire him with cause and offered to negotiate a buyout, which might have saved Mangino the embarrassment of former players going public with their bitter feelings about him. Maybe the fly could have told us that Mangino, either on the spot or after talking to an attorney, decided to roll the dice and go for all the money. If that’s the case, it amounts to a legal battle between a pair of stubborn men.

Maybe Perkins and Mangino could get together face-to-face over cigars as they did when Perkins told his coach why it was a mistake to accuse the game officials of stacking the deck in the favor of Texas after a controversial call swung the outcome in favor of the Longhorns in 2004. Not likely at this point.

When trying to determine whether Mangino will coach the Missouri game, think like an attorney, not a sports fan. There are six million reasons not to rush Mangino out the door just so someone else coaches the Missouri game. The shorter the investigation takes, the more the athletic department could be open to charges that it had a pre-determined outcome.


Lee Eldridge 8 years, 2 months ago

I don't think it's curious at all. Perkins is tired of Mangino, and wants him out. I guarantee there are boosters out there making contact with potential coaches on Perkin's short list.

Paul R Getto 8 years, 2 months ago

"Perkins is tired of Mangino, and wants him out." === The heart of the matter, no doubt about it.

friendlyjhawk 8 years, 2 months ago

We were tired of Perkin$ the day he walked on in the door.

leedavid 8 years, 2 months ago

If you call the police for a they get to wait until the end of the season to investigate? No. So why is this different? Allegations have been made and the investigation should begin immediately. Everytime I saw coach Mangino I thought "Pizza's here!". Maybe there is a career in that profession for him.

puddleglum 8 years, 2 months ago

I'm ready for lew to go. keep mangino, dump lew.

lew-nobody here likes you or your east-coast posse.

newmedia 8 years, 2 months ago

If you got a chuckle out of the Ron Prince fiasco in Manhattan wait until you see this play out.. Hopefully this won't linger on like the soap opera at KSU... mm,mm,mm.

Haiku_Cuckoo 8 years, 2 months ago

Apart from a handful of disgruntled internet posters I don't know of anyone who is tired of Lew. Like him or not, he does his job very well.

Six lost games in a row? That can't be ignored. You guys really want to keep Mangino?

Snoop 8 years, 2 months ago

Mangino out?

Make a call to Turner Gill

Mel Briscoe 8 years, 2 months ago

i'm w/ the majority of posters in this thread. it doesn't seem all that strange to me... lew is just looking for reasons to get rid of mangino. its that simple.

hesshawk 8 years, 2 months ago

Lew is trying to dump him, save the $$ (cuz we know Lew's all about the money) and bring in some young hotshot. Maybe Randy Edsall whose UConn team beat ND Saturday on national TV ??
Lew does love that UConn connection

I'm tired of this soap opera. It's almost as bad as the fiasco last season in Craphattan before they dug up the old geezer and propped him back up on the sideline.

beawolf 8 years, 2 months ago

So much speculation, so little information.

Mangino is gone. No doubt whatsoever. You have a coach with anger management issues, an embarrassment to alumni (aka donors), and very little success in the Big 12. The question is going to be how much is it going to cost KU?

garyr 8 years, 2 months ago

As I've been saying for the past week, Turner Gill is going to be the new KU football coach. For no other reason than that is who Perkins wants. They are long time buddies, and Turner's daughter goes to school here, so it's near his family. Perfect fit for Gill, for KU fans, not so sure.

clarkentsman 8 years, 2 months ago

Haiku_Cuckoo you are misinformed.

Lew Perkins has displeased the fan base so much they are now having to give away basketball tickets. For YEARS prior to the new "$ seating plan $" you could only hope that you might get a ticket to the basketball team play any team.

emailed Nov. 17, 2009 from Kansas Athletics to all Williams Fund Members

"FREE Basketball Tickets

Purchase any Kansas Athletics jersey (youth or adult) between November 18 and November 30 at the KU Store and receive two FREE tickets to one men's AND one women's basketball game.

Chose one men's and one women’s game from the list below for your FREE Tickets!

Men's Basketball 12/2 vs. Alcorn St. or 12/9 vs Radford Women's Basketball 12/6 vs Northern Colorado or 12/13 vs Creighton."

Perkins doesn’t give a toilet full what anyone thinks! And with a new Chancellor that likely means even her at this point.

When I think of Lew Perkins I think of Car Icahn. The corporate raider who “legally acquired” - ok stole - the TWA employee pension fund because the attorneys found a way to do it.

Mel Briscoe 8 years, 2 months ago

heshawk-- that's funny you'd say that about schneider being "dug up". that's the exact terminology i used too. ;)

TopJayhawk 8 years, 1 month ago

they may have dug Snyder up, but he beat us. And will for the forseeable future if we don't hustle.

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