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MoveOn having rally to thank Moore for supporting health care bill

November 13, 2009


The Kaw Valley Council of MoveOn is hosting a “honk and wave rally” to thank U.S. Rep. Dennis Moore for supporting the Affordable Health Care for America Act.

The rally will be at noon today — Nov. 13 — outside his local office at Ninth and Kentucky. The council plans to deliver a thank-you letter to his staff after the rally.

Jo Anderson, coordinator, said, “Moore made a courageous decision, voting his conscience instead of bowing to pressure from well-financed supporters of the status quo, when he joined the majority of the House of Representatives in supporting HR 3962.”


KS 6 years ago

He better soak it up. There will be Dennis NoMoore after the next election. This vote, along with Cap and Trade are his Waterloo. There will be a lot of folks out there working to get him out of office.

monkeyhawk 6 years ago

Someone finally tells the truth about health control:

"Confessions of an ObamaCare Backer A liberal explains the political calculus.

Mr. Cassidy is more honest than the politicians whose dishonesty he supports. "The U.S. government is making a costly and open-ended commitment," he writes. "Let's not pretend that it isn't a big deal, or that it will be self-financing, or that it will work out exactly as planned. It won't. What is really unfolding, I suspect, is the scenario that many conservatives feared. The Obama Administration . . . is creating a new entitlement program, which, once established, will be virtually impossible to rescind."

Why are they doing it? Because, according to Mr. Cassidy, ObamaCare serves the twin goals of "making the United States a more equitable country" and furthering the Democrats' "political calculus." In other words, the purpose is to further redistribute income by putting health care further under government control, and in the process making the middle class more dependent on government. As the party of government, Democrats will benefit over the long run."

Richard Heckler 6 years ago

Thanks to Jo Anderson and the Kaw Valley Move On more people are educated on this matter. However we've still got a long way to go.

Pres Obama and the democrats were voted in to accomplish at least two things. Stop the war,NOT ESCALATE and provide the nations citizens with National Health Insurance. As of today neither is taking place.

The Public Option is anything but National Health Insurance.... it is however a ton more profit for the industry = failure.

However the battle for National Health Insurance will continue as will the battle for JOBS,PEACE instead of WAR. IF incumbents choose to dump on the tax paying citizens IT IS TIME to dump incumbents. Congress NEEDS new faces NOT more of the same.

Republicans will never give the taxpaying voters what they want and TOO MANY democrats have joined them. WE VOTERS only get what does not impact a politicians shareholdings and/or their campaign war chest. Repubs are CERTAINLY NOT the answer. BRING ON NEW DEMOCRATS AND GREEN PARTY THINKERS.

National Health Insurance does not remove competition from the actual health care industry. It will be alive and well. Profits will be based on customer service and clinic performance based on the clients experience. This is my perception of competition.

The nations consumers COULD HAVE excellent National Health insurance for all if one would remove: elected officials as shareholders special interest campaign funding the insurance industry recklessly spending health care dollars to bribe votes the news media offering misinformation ( their large advertising revenue is at stake)

Remember it is the most expensive medical insurance in the world that denies care and/or cancels coverage after taking ones money for years and years. National Health Insurance for All would not allow such arrogance.

A family of four making the median income of $56,200 would pay about $2,700 in payroll tax for all health care costs.

National Health Insurance ends deductibles and co-payments and would save hundreds of billions annually by eliminating the high overhead and profits of the private health insurance industry and HMOs.

National Health Insurance for All (HR 676)

Doctors for Single Payer(HR 676)

Unions for HR 676

Organizations and Government Bodies Endorsing HR 676

Health Care In the USA

Consumer Reports On Health Care

Flap Doodle 6 years ago

SEIU thugs will be on hand to bust heads if anyone shows up to register their displeasure.

BigPrune 6 years ago

Characteristics Associated with a Cult

1) The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.

‪2) Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.

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‪6) The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.

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‪14) Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.

15)‪ The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.

preebo 6 years ago

"There will be a lot of folks out there working to get him out of office."

...not as many working to ensure his continuation representing the people of the 3rd District.

Godot 6 years ago

This is not news. Did and/or Moore pay the LJW for this ad?

labmonkey 6 years ago

Moore will win his reelection because he represents KCK, half of which suckles the goverment teat to some degree.

As for have a good sale on nice, aerodynamic eggs or large foam middle fingers?

thewayitis 6 years ago

The more we find out about this bill the smellier it gets. There are many vibale , less expensive ways to help our health care system without a government break the bank takeover. Oh and Obama lied to Joe wilson about illegals but nobody cares.

Richard Heckler 6 years ago

Have no fear if this district puts up another republican which typically is a thinker like Vince Snowbarger Moore will get re-elected. I certainly will never support republicans that come from this district.

Yes I have supported a republican in the past aka Sen Nancy Kassebaum...... a rare breed of republican.

========================================== Is the House Health Care Bill Better than Nothing? - November 9, 2009

By Marcia Angell, M.D. | The Huffington Post

Well, the House health reform bill -- known to Republicans as the Government Takeover -- finally passed after one of Congress's longer, less enlightening debates. Two stalwarts of the single-payer movement split their votes; John Conyers voted for it; Dennis Kucinich against. Kucinich was right.

Richard Heckler 6 years ago

*Recommendation #1: Drop the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 55. This should be an expansion of traditional Medicare, not a new program. Gradually, over several years, drop the age decade by decade, until everyone is covered by Medicare. Costs: Obviously, this would increase Medicare costs, but it would help decrease costs to the health system as a whole, because Medicare is so much more efficient (overhead of about 3% vs. 20% for private insurance). And it’s a better program, because it ensures that everyone has access to a uniform package of benefits.

*Recommendation #2: Increase Medicare fees for primary care doctors and reduce them for procedure-oriented specialists. Specialists such as cardiologists and gastroenterologists are now excessively rewarded for doing tests and procedures, many of which, in the opinion of experts, are not medically indicated. Not surprisingly, we have too many specialists, and they perform too many tests and procedures. Costs: This would greatly reduce costs to Medicare, and the reform would almost certainly be adopted throughout the wider health system.

*Recommendation #3: Medicare should monitor doctors’ practice patterns for evidence of excess, and gradually reduce fees of doctors who habitually order significantly more tests and procedures than the average for the specialty. Costs: Again, this would greatly reduce costs, and probably be widely adopted.

*Recommendation #4: Provide generous subsidies to medical students entering primary care, with higher subsidies for those who practice in underserved areas of the country for at least two years. Costs: This initial, rather modest investment in ending our shortage of primary care doctors would have long-term benefits, in terms of both costs and quality of care.

*Recommendation #5: Repeal the provision of the Medicare drug benefit that prohibits Medicare from negotiating with drug companies for lower prices. (The House bill calls for this.) That prohibition has been a bonanza for the pharmaceutical industry. For negotiations to be meaningful, there must be a list (formulary) of drugs deemed cost-effective. This is how the Veterans Affairs System obtains some of the lowest drug prices of any insurer in the country. Costs: If Medicare paid the same prices as the Veterans Affairs System, its expenditures on brand-name drugs would be a small fraction of what they are now.

Is the House bill better than nothing? I don’t think so. It simply throws more money into a dysfunctional and unsustainable system, with only a few improvements at the edges, and it augments the central role of the investor-owned insurance industry.

Read more at:

ksjayhawk74 6 years ago

That "Characteristics Associated with a Cult " list is exactly right. It does very accurately describe Republicans/Conservatives/Teabaggers

Also, monkeyhawk is correct. Obama and the Democratic Party do want to pass the Health Care reform bill DO want to further their career. So what?

Flap Doodle 6 years ago

BTW, what's the difference between HR 676 and a peach pit lodged in a mandrill's bowels? The peach pit has a chance of being passed.

tbaker 6 years ago

I think Moore is going to come to regret chumming around with far-left smear merchants like MoveOn. They're not "helping" him.

nbnozzy 6 years ago

As a moderate Republican, I have voted for Dennis Moore in the past believing him to look out for my best interest overall. With his vote for this health care bill, I will now vote for anyone who runs against him. I hate to be a one issue voter on this, but this is a major mistake he made.

63BC 6 years ago

"Well-financed" opposition?

The looters behind this bill are splitting up trillions.

As always, the real money is on the side of big government. Nothing courageous about going for a dip in that trough.

Another sellout. Another Congressman who needs to go.

LiberalDude 6 years ago

Thank you Representative Moore! You're the only congressional delegate from Kansas that cares about the people you represent. The others only care about the money that they get from the health insurance and pharm. lobbyists.

He will once again be re-elected by a wide margin.

LiberalDude 6 years ago

Healthcare_Moocher (Anonymous) says…

I'm a huge tool and I like to eat my own dung.

I am often defeated at all that I do.

puddleglum 6 years ago

congratulations BigPrune, you have just described the republican party post 2001!

BigPrune 6 years ago

I'll remember that next time I see a glassy eyed crowd chanting, "Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama..." Or, "Yes we can, yes we can, yes we can, yes we can..."

Or some youtube videos of very young children singing songs about the new prince of peace Obama.

Or, when I watch the History Channel about '30's Germany and THEIR fearless leader.

quik 6 years ago

Dennis Moore does not care about the people of his district. If you heard any of his recent interviews, you would know that he doesn't have clue what is in this bill. He is doing what he has been told to do.

LiberalDude 6 years ago

BS quik. Dennis Moore knows exactly what is in the bill and he knows that it will help Kansas to get improved health care for less money. It will help young people to stay on their parent's plan until they turn 27. It will stop insurance companies from denying people because they have pre-existing conditions.

tbaker 6 years ago

Dennis Moore will MoveOn to another line of work after the next election.

Stephen Roberts 6 years ago

If Deennis Moore really cared about the people of Kansas, he would have submitted an amendment to the bill that woud require Congress' health insurance plan be included in the bill. Congress' health care plan is better than my health care plan from a Fortune 500 company.

With the health care debate, he has shown is true colors. He is scared to talk to people who do not agree with him. What a big baby.

Oh well Merrill likes him. Maybe Merrill and can help finance his campaign.

Steve Jacob 6 years ago

This bill will have repercussions in November for all those democrats elected in republican states and everyone knows it, including Obama. He put my party at risk over this and I am not happy.

LiberalDude 6 years ago

You obviously haven't read the bill Pilgrim2. The only one who gets increased taxes from this bill are rich people (people who make over $500,000 per year). I can assure you that I don't make this much and my taxes will not go up.

Also according to the non-partisan Congrssional Budget Office this bill will actually reduce our National deficit in the long run.

notajayhawk 6 years ago

merrill (Anonymous) says…

"Pres Obama and the democrats were voted in to accomplish at least two things. Stop the war,not escalate and provide the nations citizens with National Health Insurance. As of today neither is taking place."

Seriously, merrill, get a grip.

This has been an endless source of amusement, watching all the liberal ranters claiming Obama was elected to do this or that, that the voters provided a mandate on this issue or that issue.

According to the last polls before the election, the economy was the biggest issue for 57% of voters, with the war and healthcare tied for a distant second at 13%. In the exit polls, the economy had moved up to 62% with the war coming in second at 10%.

Even today more people are concerned about the economy than healthcare, merrill. You really should try reading something besides your propaganda sites once in a while. It might make you look marginally less like a buffoon.

LiberalDude (Anonymous) says…

"BS quik. Dennis Moore knows exactly what is in the bill and he knows that it will help Kansas to get improved health care for less money. It will help young people to stay on their parent's plan until they turn 27. It will stop insurance companies from denying people because they have pre-existing conditions."

As pilgrim pointed out, you very obviously have not heard the interviews. Moore even said he was unaware of the price tag, that he'd never heard the $1.2 trillion figure. And when asked if it would reduce costs, he said he hoped so, but we'd have to wait and see.

When you say things like "I can assure you that I don't make this much and my taxes will not go up", it's pretty apparent that your only concern is getting someone else to pay for your lazy a**. So I guess it's understandable that your only concern was the part about 27 year olds staying on their parents insurance - I mean, I guess they should have the right to insure someone living in their basement.

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