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Independent counsel behind Bill Clinton investigation will speak at KU
November 11, 2009
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Ken Starr, a former independent counsel whose investigations led to the impeachment of President Bill Clinton, next week will visit the Kansas University School of Law.
A program is set for 12:30 p.m. Nov. 19 in Room 104 of Green Hall, 1535 W. 15th St. The event, sponsored by the KU chapter of the Federalist Society and the law school, is free and open to the public. Lunch will be provided.
Starr now is dean of Pepperdine University’s law school, a position he’s held since 2004.
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11 November 2009
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local_support (Anonymous) says…
I miss Bubba.
11 November 2009
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mike_blur (Mike Blur) says…
I long for the day when America's biggest problem was a stain on a chubby girl's dress.
11 November 2009
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tomatogrower (Anonymous) says…
Oh great, the supposed “conservative” who wasted how many tax dollars to prove that Clinton was a lousy husband. Is he paying back this money yet? No, he's being paid to lecture at KU. He's probably figured out how to do it tax free too. He can spend tax money for useless things, but I bet he tries not to pay taxes.
11 November 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…
Of course, the looney left will never understand how damaging that was to America, ie, 9-11, kids don't think oral sex is “sex”, lowering of the bar for what/who can serve in elected office, what you can get away with, giving a seal of approval to misogyny. The upside is, it routed out feminist for the self-serving hypocrites they are, ie, now Palin. And the left will follow the lead of any radical agenda, so long as it does not give an inch to the right. Mike Blur, did you ever get a haircut?
11 November 2009
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OldEnuf2BYurDad (Anonymous) says…
So, what I gathered from tomatogrower is that he's NOT a fan of Ken Starr.
Ken Starr was able to rip Bill Clinton the way he did because Bill put a huge target on his own back. A president can be a moral failure and survive (Kennedy); but there is something about bald-faced lying (Nixon, Clinton) that comes back to bite a president on the butt.
Bill's morality wasn't his undoing, it was his arrogance and lies about that morality that made him vulnerable. His lack of moral backbone was a matter of record, but he remained secure until he got on national TV and with a red face said “I did not have sexual relations with that woman”.
I have been immorral and many of my dearest friends have as well. It's the lying about it gets under my skin. A grown man doesn't run, he owns up to his mistakes. Ken Starr helped expose that.
11 November 2009
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Cappy (Anonymous) says…
I, too, miss the Clinton Years. Good times, them. The whole impeachment thing was just a prelude to the republican party finally going absolute mad.
11 November 2009
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Cappy (Anonymous) says…
The thing I will always remember about the turn of things back then: The very day Ken Starr released his report that told us all those important details about cigars and such, where was Bill Clinton? He was getting standing ovations at the United Nations where he presciently spoke that the most important issue of the near future was going to be international terrorism. And what did W. do about terrorism before 9/11? Absolutely, stinkin' nothing.
11 November 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…
If that makes you feel proud of America Cappy, it seems Bill Clinton and Paris Hilton are to be held to the same standard, going by your comment. Tawdry sex scandals do seem to raise a celebritys' standing with Americans. Jihadists don't call us infidels just 'cause we don't get on all fours and pray on a rug three times a day. Slick Willy, like The Messiah, are merely celebrities. When/if Mack Daddy pulls some crap like Slick Willy, god knows how high his approval ratings may go. You liberals are really out of this world!
11 November 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…
Cappy, BTW, the 9-11 attackers all but purchased their plane tickets when W was sworn in. Clinton is fully responsible for it happening. Surely, you know him and his people did the standard liberal act: talk alot and not do anything about it–-when it comes to enemies. Americans? They (liberal Democrats) will talk about something briefly and summarily stick it up our backside and break it off. We're seeing it all over again ie, Afghanistan/ObamaCare. Wait on Afghanistan; furiously shove ObamaCare down our throats.
11 November 2009
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ComradeRedRooster (Anonymous) says…
Socialists have attempted to deflect one of the more damning faults of Clinton. He is a sexual predator. He was the President and took advantage of an intern. A young naive girl that was awestruck by this man was made a victim by his callous disregard for ethics and morallity. Clinton should have been impeached.
11 November 2009
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Cappy (Anonymous) says…
Shrew-man,
So now your on the side of the Jihadis?
After a number of missile attacks on Al Qaida training camps, Richard Clarke was set to developing a comprehensive plan to deal with terrorists. Upon W's election he was told that “terrorism is so last year”. Clarke was told he would be on a special task force with Dick Cheney to deal with terrorism. How many times did that task force meet before 9/11? Nada, zero, zilch, not once.
11 November 2009
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Cappy (Anonymous) says…
Uh, comrade, he WAS impeached. And she was not so innocent; although I personally don't approve of supervisor/subordinate relationships, it wasn't like she didn't seek it out.
11 November 2009
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ComradeRedRooster (Anonymous) says…
Cappy,
Did you know Bill Clinton terrorizes women. He has been acused of sexual assault, victimized an intern. Your President was a terrorist. BHO is probably a terrorist but we can't racially profile them anymore so he gets a pass.
11 November 2009
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sunny (Anonymous) says…
Now if he would only complete and investigation on Hussein! That would make my week!
11 November 2009
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porch_person (Anonymous) says…
I think Mike Blur put this one to bed and damn quickly too.
11 November 2009
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lounger (Anonymous) says…
Crap! He waisted how much on TRYING to persecute Bill Clinton? L-O-S-E-R!!!!
11 November 2009
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lllwll (Anonymous) says…
Bill and his cigar.
Hillary and her approval.
The current Pres., What the hell.
11 November 2009
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barrypenders (Anonymous) says…
Clinton. Letterman. and Polanski. Of course the leading member of C.L.a P. is loved by the grasshoppers. They love getting illicit fellatio from another lady other than their wife. Fraternization like Letterman? Of course! Child rape like Polanski? Of course! Those grasshoppers will say and do anything for their C.L.a P.! C.L.a P. is an honorable organization for the male grasshopper.
Stimulus, evolution and Posercare lives
Darwin bless me and all of the Veterans
11 November 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…
Funny you say that porchie, when that stain on the chubby girl's dress defined what Clinton was then and still is today.
You get it don't you porchie? “Vast right-wing conspiracy”.
Then, well like the impeccably groomed Mikie Blur said…..the rest as they say, is history. No re-writing. Clinton was a serial sexual assaulter. Of course, he's paid off his legal bills giving rousing speeches that the likes of you and Blur would gleefully attend and clap and cheer for the Assaulter in Chief.
11 November 2009
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porch_person (Anonymous) says…
TomShewmon,
(laughter)
You have to see this from my perspective, Tom. You're a LJ World-bounced conservative from no-stop-lights Linwood who feels that a bj in the Oval Office is a greater offense than lying three times to the American people about an invasion where we've spent over $670,000,000,000 and lost 4300 lives, an invasion which *still* hasn't achieved its objective.
The degree of cognitive disability that is required to make that choice boggles the mind.
(laughter)
Clinton is now seen as the fourth greatest President ever by polling results. He's on Capital Hill, right now lobbying for the health care bill. He's already had one diplomatic success this year and he has people looking back on his administration with a certain fondness. Certainly, we got out of the hole Reagan dug for us during Clinton's administration.
“Right Wing Conspiracy”? You betcha!! Ever read “Blinded by the Right” by David Brock? He's the guy who actually wrote the “serial sexual assaulter” articles for the American Spectator. They were all composed out of whole cloth, Tom. I thought a “well read / I have more money than you in Linwood” conservative like yourself would know that.
(laughter)
Tom, why do you keep embarrassing yourself, day after day, with this presentation of easily debunked (and older than dirt) BS?
Is it a cry for help? Are you lonely?
(laughter)
11 November 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…
Hey Porchie, you dazzling suburbanite and poll junkie, I have something I wanted to share with you that's a bit off topic–but you mentioned polls (again). It's a Gallup poll, are they 'skewed'?
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“In the latest poll, independent registered voters favor the Republican candidate by 52% to 30%.”
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/124226/Rep…
Whatya think porchie, poll person?
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Would this vote The Messiah in right now–-today?
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11 November 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…
Hey porch, are you too obtuse to understand 'right wing conspiracy' in regards to your high praise of Mike Blurs' post: “I long for the day when America's biggest problem was a stain on a chubby girl's dress” ?
That stain on that chubby girls' dress kinda snuffed the 'right wing conspiracy' thing. Do you have some degree of cognitive disability that does not allow you to understand this. If for no other reason, Hillary has been a laughing stock for this and the butt of thousands of jokes for saying “right wing conspiracy” on national airwaves, visa-vi the stained blue dress that ultimately dipped Willy way down in some good old hot hillbilly, trailer trash grease.
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11 November 2009
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mike_blur (Mike Blur) says…
Leave it to right_thinker (Tom Shewmon) to attack me personally. on Veteran's Day. Me, an honorably discharged, DD-214 packin' military veteran. Me—who actually knows what AR 670-1 means without having to google it.
Go ahead, take some more shots, right_thinker (Tom Shewmon.)
11 November 2009
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puddleglum (Anonymous) says…
I can't believe mike blur is calling monica chubby!
pot meet kettle
11 November 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…
And what about personal grooming?
11 November 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/lo…
WOW!!
How much farther will CNN's ratings sink? Will Dobbs land at Fox News? Some right-wing outlet? Times are a changin'……time to get a haircut and leave the fringe.
11 November 2009
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sfjayhawk (Anonymous) says…
Whatever one thinks about Mr Clinton, we can all agree that during his presidency it was high times in america in terms of economy and prosperity. When he left office there was a budget surplus for chrissake. Ahh the memories
12 November 2009
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mike_blur (Mike Blur) says…
Hey puddleglum, I will reveal for the first time that I know who you are (but “outing” you, heh heh, would be a violation of the LJW/Kealing TOS) so let us know that you're yet another Lawrencian with “girth issues” eh?
12 November 2009
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grammaddy (Anonymous) says…
Nancy-Tom, I can't believe you! clinton is reponsible for 9/11? Never mind that his administration tried to warn Bush about terrorists using airplanes as weapons and were completely ignored until it happened.
Ken Starr is a creep and I cannot fathom why KU Law School would have him speak here unless it's to show them what a creep he really is. His report on Clinton reads like porn. I think he enjoyed it too much. And the subject of that investigation had nothing to do with Monica. Wasn't he being investigated for his involvement in Whitewater? Monica had nothing to do with that Yes, he lied about his relationship with her, what man doesn't lie when he gets busted for infidelity.To stretch that into being anything else is just too Tom Shewmonish.
sfjayhawk- yes we did have a booming economy during his admin.Then came those vile Regurgicans with their idiot leader and turned that budget surplus into a naional debt 3x the size. How convenient it must be for Nancy-Tom to have the selective memory he has. I bet the folks who were hit by Katrina are sill singing Bush's praises.
Clinton may have been impeached for lying under oath, but that lie had nothing to do with the case Starr was hired to investigate.
12 November 2009
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barrypenders (Anonymous) says…
Female democrats love Clinton. They must love the way he handled females. What a guy.
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12 November 2009
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ComradeRedRooster (Anonymous) says…
Socialists have attempted to deflect one of the more damning faults of Clinton. He is a sexual predator. He was the President and took advantage of an intern. A young naive girl that was awestruck by this man was made a victim by his callous disregard for ethics and morallity. Clinton should have been impeached.
rdragon writes:
He was impeached he just wasn't convicted by the Senate.
12 November 2009
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TomShewmon (Tom Shewmon) says…
Porch, will you address my above Gallup poll? Whatya think about all that?
12 November 2009
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storm (Anonymous) says…
The fine citizens of these United States didn't care to know the details about President's Clinton private life, and they still don't.
That era was the dawn of the the internet age, a perfect playground for scapegoating…similar to hate speech on talkradio.
That said, law students need to be exposed to the likes of Ken Starr. My hope is that future lawyers will recognize the importance of pursuing cases that really mean something instead of being ensnared by politcal whims.
12 November 2009
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radiohawk (Anonymous) says…
BlessedSap-
He got impeached for lying about a few extra-marital hummers that were nobody's damn business but his, Hill's, Monica's and, maybe, Chelsea's. I do not now, nor did I then, care what politicians or entertainers do with their privates.
12 November 2009
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deathpenaltyliberal (Anonymous) says…
Ken Starr speaking at KU. How does that square with the wingnut right's insistence that all universities are liberal bastions?
Ken Starr's report was just rightwing porn. A very good example of how not to investigate, what with the bias, leaks and pandering.
As a taxpayer I am disgusted that we had to pay 72+ million dollars for it. Next time you complain about taxes, think about that.
And there was a “vast rightwing conspiracy”. Richard Mellon Scaiffe funneled millions into the Arkansas Project to dig up dirt on the Clintons. Look it up.
And of course, none of this is news. So why don't you bedwetting, drooling, mouth-breathing wingnuts just get back on the couch and watch FoxNews for tomorrow's talking points?
12 November 2009
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deathpenaltyliberal (Anonymous) says…
And 9/11 occurred on Bush's watch. Whatever happened to personal responsibility? I guess it's forgotten when it's your guy who dropped the ball. Who sat there like the village idiot when Americans were dying.
12 November 2009
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edjayhawk (Anonymous) says…
Hey Tom Shewmon, I bet its Obama's fault!
12 November 2009
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edjayhawk (Anonymous) says…
RDragon: He is a sexual predator.
That's a hoot. The funniest thing I heard all day. Maybe Clinton should have been registered as a sex offender?!!! :) Um, last time I checked she was not under 18 and it was consensual.
12 November 2009
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rdragon (M. Lindeman) says…
edjayhawk (Anonymous) says…
RDragon: He is a sexual predator.
That's a hoot. The funniest thing I heard all day. Maybe Clinton should have been registered as a sex offender?!!! :) Um, last time I checked she was not under 18 and it was consensual.
rdragon writes:
Where did I say Clinton was a sexual predator? I think you might need to go back and reread what I wrote.
12 November 2009
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rdragon (M. Lindeman) says…
edjayhawk a little advice for you. It might help you to copy the the others comment in the body of your statement. This way you will get the correct person you are responding to.
12 November 2009
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edjayhawk (Anonymous) says…
RDragon:
My mistake and I apologize. I didn't read it right,
Cordially,
edjayhawk
13 November 2009
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rdragon (M. Lindeman) says…
edjayhawk (Anonymous) says…
RDragon:
My mistake and I apologize. I didn't read it right,
Cordially,
edjayhawk
rdragon writes:
apolagizes excepted.